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Oku Hanako - Kimi no Hana (TV size)

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Sonnyc
Nominated.
Xinying
some things I want to nitpick

  1. 00:00:606 ~ 00:23:982 - I don't think repeated claps sound very good. Maybe try sampleset drum?
  2. preview point is unsnapped
  3. new mp3, but there is still sudden cut at the end ;_;
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Del05

Xinying wrote:

some things I want to nitpick

  1. 00:00:606 ~ 00:23:982 - I don't think repeated claps sound very good. Maybe try sampleset drum?
  2. preview point is unsnapped
  3. new mp3, but there is still sudden cut at the end ;_;
About the clap sound xD sorry looks like i accidentally delete it before the last update xD (or i didnt copy it when i move my osu data to my new laptop xD) i will upload it soon same with preview point, i will fix it soon after i get bn :D
about the mp3, i use kaede's though xD maybe i will try to search it again since it is said that in itunes there is a tv size for this
Lasse
yeah fix that hitsounding thing for whatever diffs use your hitsounding

general
I'd suggest making the pink and yellow combocolors a bit less bright as they don't fit well with others, for example: http://i.imgur.com/9FIR5Ri.jpg
Combo1 : 254,241,90
Combo2 : 255,128,191
Combo3 : 178,159,151
Combo4 : 165,196,230
Combo5 : 182,224,84
Combo6 : 255,227,210

walao
bit higher drain would be nice, like 6.5 or even 7
how about setting stack leniency to 5? that way your 1/1 would become perfect stacks, which I think makes the map look a bit cleaner, up to you though.
00:01:580 (3,4) - unlike all other intro stacks this has vocals on both notes, so mapping it differently would be nice
00:49:307 (3) - feels a bit overdone spacing wise, maybe try something like http://i.imgur.com/J1oiLVT.jpg that still fits your hexagons
01:11:125 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - really think this should be toned down a bit, your other jumps are kinda supported by vocals, so having only held vocals here makes it feel a bit too much, less spacing/circles would be great
01:27:489 (6,7) - this is one held vocal and a consistent drum roll, so a 5 note stream would fit better than kicksliders

xin
slightly lower ar would be great, like ~8-8.2
00:26:515 (5,6) - why is this suddenly stacked? dont think it works well here with the other emphasis and you don't stack similar things
00:42:878 (1,2) - this one maybe too, how about something like http://i.imgur.com/n8Hcrr9.jpg
00:46:190 (2) - this one works better cause of ther snare on the first note
00:55:346 (2) - why the sudden offbeat emphasis? white ticks seem more important here to me
01:04:112 (6,7) - is stacked when all other similar ones are jumps?
seems alright overall, I just don't get some of your 1/2 stacks lol

hard
fine

normal
eh
00:00:606 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - try to not have so many sliders, would be great if you could get rid of one or two an use some more circles here
same for basically the whole map, just try to make it a little more balanced
things like 00:13:073 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - are lol
chorus needs more circles, for example things like http://i.imgur.com/lv9Cg6i.jpg could work

easy
similar issue as normal, things like 00:26:320 (2) - could just be two circles
00:34:112 (4) - what is this following? all emphasis is on red ticks here. maybe http://i.imgur.com/iN3xsu1.jpg ?
00:46:579 (4) - ^
00:50:476 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - so many sliders :c maybe just replace some 1/1 sliders with circle + pause?
chorus also needs more circles


basically go over lower diffs and try to replace some slider with circles in parts where you have lots of sliders after each other.
slider are harder to play for beginner because you also have to hold and follow etc.
higher diffs are fine, so feel free to call me back if you can fix e/n
Xinying

Lasse wrote:

I will let del decide on combo colors

xin
slightly lower ar would be great, like ~8-8.2 Changed to 8 to fit the spread
00:26:515 (5,6) - why is this suddenly stacked? dont think it works well here with the other emphasis and you don't stack similar things Fixed, stacked it on 00:25:930 (2) - for a circle flow
00:42:878 (1,2) - this one maybe too, how about something like http://i.imgur.com/n8Hcrr9.jpg sure
00:46:190 (2) - this one works better cause of ther snare on the first note
00:55:346 (2) - why the sudden offbeat emphasis? white ticks seem more important here to me Was following the instrument but yeah I'll change the rhythm for that part it should be better
01:04:112 (6,7) - is stacked when all other similar ones are jumps? right, fixed
seems alright overall, I just don't get some of your 1/2 stacks lol Actually I stack some 1/2 notes because I think they play better with the vocal, but it seems like they're all inconsistently bad. I'll fix what I can here, and I'll take note of this for my future maps. thank you!

also fixed a few things for better readability as ar8
thanks for the comments! they were really helpful

https://puu.sh/ukKP9/6f18853a28.osu
meii18
seems like you don't need me anymore. good luck with the set!
KaedekaShizuru

Del05 wrote:

about the mp3, i use kaede's though xD maybe i will try to search it again since it is said that in itunes there is a tv size for this
full ver have been sold, but no short ver; the arrangement also different with short ver. gg :o
just qualified, gogogo :)
Xinying

KaedekaShizuru wrote:

full ver have been sold, but no short ver; the arrangement also different with short ver. gg :o
just qualified, gogogo :)
we can always edit the mp3 ;)
walaowey

Lasse wrote:

yeah fix that hitsounding thing for whatever diffs use your hitsounding

general
I'd suggest making the pink and yellow combocolors a bit less bright as they don't fit well with others, for example: http://i.imgur.com/9FIR5Ri.jpg seems like del fixed that xD
Combo1 : 254,241,90
Combo2 : 255,128,191
Combo3 : 178,159,151
Combo4 : 165,196,230
Combo5 : 182,224,84
Combo6 : 255,227,210

walao
bit higher drain would be nice, like 6.5 or even 7 alright sure
how about setting stack leniency to 5? that way your 1/1 would become perfect stacks, which I think makes the map look a bit cleaner, up to you though. i think i'll keep it as 7
00:01:580 (3,4) - unlike all other intro stacks this has vocals on both notes, so mapping it differently would be nice i'll keep this, bcoz the part after that i map it following the drum kick sound, and this part dont have that sound xD
00:49:307 (3) - feels a bit overdone spacing wise, maybe try something like http://i.imgur.com/J1oiLVT.jpg that still fits your hexagons fixed
01:11:125 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - really think this should be toned down a bit, your other jumps are kinda supported by vocals, so having only held vocals here makes it feel a bit too much, less spacing/circles would be great change 2 circles -> slider
01:27:489 (6,7) - this is one held vocal and a consistent drum roll, so a 5 note stream would fit better than kicksliders fixed
thanks for the mod xD

updateaaa
osu file format v14

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PreviewTime: 61580
Countdown: 0
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GridSize: 16
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Title:Kimi no Hana (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:キミの花 (TV Size)
Artist:Oku Hanako
ArtistUnicode:奥華子
Creator:Del05
Version:Walao's Flower
Source:セイレン
Tags:Seiren opening Tsuneki Hikari Miyamae Tooru Touno Kyouko xinying chocox walaowey op
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Xinying
Topic Starter
Del05

All updated

Topic Starter
Del05

Lasse wrote:

Hitsound and color, all fixed

Normal
All fixed. I try to use my rhythm though, change some slider become circle, hope it is fine now :D

easy
All fixed. For chorus i change some 1/1 slider become 2 circles. But idk why the sr increase xD
walaowey
its back bois!!
Lasse
looks fine now
rebubbling cause so much changed on easy/normal
walaowey
Doyak
Random bubble check.

[General]
* I'm against the normal-hitclap in the intro. It just stands out too much on the calm part of this song. Especially when they're used on slider tails, they're so dominating that I lose track of what you're following now. It's even more strange that sometimes the notes are ignoring beats where those 'strong' hitsounds are supposed to appear. Try to find some softer hitsound to avoid this issue.

[Easy]
* 00:54:372 (2,3,4) - Can we avoid too much 3/2s? 00:53:593 (1,2,3,4,5) - this whole transition of rhythm could be really confusing for new players. Use a reverse slider like others, or at least bind 3-4 as a slider. It fits the long vocal on 00:54:956 - as well.
* 01:01:385 (3) - This is pretty personal, but this pattern doesn't give any special feelings while it is one of the most unique sound in the whole song. 00:59:826 (1,2,3) - This as a whole looks very untidy as well. I would do something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7615568 to give some kind of sharp flow to make it special, while balancing the whole pattern too.
* 01:14:437 - 01:14:826 - I may just add normal whistles here, cuz important
* 01:23:203 (2,1) - meh blanket

[Normal]
I don't like how this diff has some random-like trains instead of actual patterns, especially at the intro. It's hard to construct nice patterns with overlapped 1/2s, but you can still put some meaning behind the placements. 00:00:606 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - 00:08:398 (3,4,5,1) - 00:20:865 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - etc. Not gonna ask you to improve all of them, but would be great if you can do something with them because this diff is the only one that seems to lacking proper patterns. I'd like to see at least a bit of adjusting before rebubbling this set.

* 00:03:333 (5) - 00:06:450 (5) - 00:09:567 (5) - I would avoid long trains for the calm intro. Also rather than the white ticks, the red ticks are generally important there imo, so you could just put a circle on 00:03:528 - 00:06:644 - 00:09:761 - instead.
* 00:29:826 - 00:42:294 - Consecutive claps sound really jarring. Just remove them from those.
* 00:41:709 (2) - 1/1 sliders sounds better for me because 00:42:099 - has both vocal and important drums. Also I would really try to avoid long trains that goes longer than a measure if possible.
* 00:38:787 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:44:242 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Also try to avoid these trains that are longer than the ones in the kiai D: There is no reason to make this part that dense.

[Hard]
* 00:36:450 (1,2,3,4,5) - Inconsistent spacing. Why not just rotate (1) a little bit and put (2) closer to (3) so that they both have 1.20x, and pull 00:37:619 (4) - a bit upward to make it tidy 1.20x as well.

[Xinying's Insane]
* 00:28:268 - Missing clap
* 00:49:696 (3,4,5,6) - Could you at least put some hitsounds? Using a jump pattern without any hitsounds is very ironic.
* 00:56:709 (1,2,3,4,5) - It's quite weird that you suddenly changed the spacing concept when there's nothing changed in the song, nor the sv. Maybe a gradual increase of intensity for the entire part is fine, but at least you should use same concept within 00:56:709 (1,2,3,4,5) - these.

[Walao's Flower]
* 00:19:307 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The piano sound is not on 00:20:086 (4) - so using a full 1/2 jumps here reduces emphasis on what you're following here. Hope you would make a pattern that uses a slider for 00:19:891 (3,4) - . Well, you did it on 00:22:424 (1,2,3) - already so lol
* 00:59:826 (1,2) - I know it's for aesthetics but starting the jump pattern on this tiny beat doesn't seem right and exaggerated imo.



Fix these then you can call me back.
Xinying
fixed everything

https://puu.sh/uSL6t/97107746d4.osu

Doyak wrote:

[General]
* I'm against the normal-hitclap in the intro. It just stands out too much on the calm part of this song. Especially when they're used on slider tails, they're so dominating that I lose track of what you're following now. It's even more strange that sometimes the notes are ignoring beats where those 'strong' hitsounds are supposed to appear. Try to find some softer hitsound to avoid this issue.
I'll second this, since it's a soft section hitsounds following piano is just fine
Topic Starter
Del05
Arkkk...
I still busy with my univ stuff xD
I will apply the mod, search bn, and qualify it when i have more free time xD
walaowey

Doyak wrote:

Random bubble check.

[Walao's Flower]
* 00:19:307 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The piano sound is not on 00:20:086 (4) - so using a full 1/2 jumps here reduces emphasis on what you're following here. Hope you would make a pattern that uses a slider for 00:19:891 (3,4) - . Well, you did it on 00:22:424 (1,2,3) - already so lol bye stars, jk aside, i've map it like 00:22:424 (1,2,3) - instead, since now that i listen it again , i heard both of their rhythm was similar, so using same rhythm here will be better
* 00:59:826 (1,2) - I know it's for aesthetics but starting the jump pattern on this tiny beat doesn't seem right and exaggerated imo. it has the piano sound here, and that jump was not very big imo xD

Fix these then you can call me back.
Thanks for the mod xD

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Doyak
Where are you Del
Topic Starter
Del05

Doyak wrote:

Where are you Del
Here ;_;
i will back again on monday :D since it is a holiday xD
thank you for wait me doyak-senpai :D

EDIT :
UPDATED :D
finally xD
All fixed
about the hs, hm... i think the hitsound is good imo (for me) and in this case i try to the volumer lower now

nb : i kinda forgot how to map lol xD and tell me if i didnt fix smth
Doyak
Surprise, I changed my profile pic

Should be good for now, rebubbled~
Lasse
qualified
kunka
gratz!
Affirmation
Good~ :)
Yohanes
Wee, grats!!
Gaia
nicee congrats!
KaedekaShizuru
grats~!
waiting so long time
Xinying
omg
-NanoRIPE-
grats kak!
Agatsu
grats!!
Topic Starter
Del05

kunka wrote:

gratz!

Neoskylove wrote:

Good~ :)

Yohanes wrote:

Wee, grats!!

Gaia wrote:

nicee congrats!

KaedekaShizuru wrote:

grats~!
waiting so long time

-NanoRIPE- wrote:

grats kak!

Agatsu wrote:

grats!!
Thank you very much everyone :D
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