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omatasetonight
02:28 yuzu__rinrin: 干し芋
02:28 chaica: 今落花生食ってる
02:29 yuzu__rinrin: 一か所めっちゃ気になること押し付けていい？
02:29 *yuzu__rinrin is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1183429 Utatsuki Kaori - Hold on me ~Koi no Mahou~ [Kantan]]
02:29 chaica: もうどこでも違和感だしOK(
02:30 yuzu__rinrin: 00:51:950 (58) - ここ裏のvo取るのおかしいし00:51:521 - に移動した方分かりやすくね
02:30 chaica: やっぱり？
02:30 chaica: 変えるか
02:31 yuzu__rinrin: うん、わかりやすい方がいい
02:31 chaica: こういう一生スネアの音なってる曲、低難易度作りにくくね
02:31 yuzu__rinrin: 一生vocalに合わせてるからそこまで
02:32 yuzu__rinrin: Futsuuは無理
02:32 chaica: ボーカルに合わせたら合わせたで音拾いたくなってしまうニョ
02:32 yuzu__rinrin: ニョ
02:33 chaica: 実際この譜面どう思う？
02:33 yuzu__rinrin: さっきのとこ以外いいと思うよ
02:34 chaica: なるほど
02:34 yuzu__rinrin: ん～完璧主観だけど00:33:079 (36) - を00:34:793 - ？
02:36 chaica: なる
02:37 chaica: できるだけ大音符につなげたくないんだよね 00:33:936 - はどう
02:37 chaica: ちょっと待って
02:37 yuzu__rinrin: おう
02:37 chaica: 考えを改めたわよ
02:37 yuzu__rinrin: はい
02:38 chaica: 00:19:807 (18,19,20,21) -
02:38 chaica: みたいな感じになるな
02:38 yuzu__rinrin: たし蟹
02:39 chaica: 配色いじった
02:39 chaica: 00:34:365 (37,38,39) - 何がいいと思う
02:40 yuzu__rinrin: 音を忠実に取るならkdK ドラムに合わせていきたいならddK
02:40 chaica: 他の難易度みてkdkにした
02:41 yuzu__rinrin: kdkにするなら00:33:508 - dにした方が聞こえよさそう
02:41 chaica: 変えたよ
02:41 yuzu__rinrin: シイタケ
02:42 chaica: 噛み合ったね
02:42 yuzu__rinrin: ｲｼﾝﾃﾞﾝｼﾝ
02:42 chaica: 難しい見れる？
02:42 yuzu__rinrin: miyoutoomoeba
02:42 chaica: 00:52:378 (164,165,166,167) -
02:42 chaica: ダメ？
02:43 yuzu__rinrin: BNによっては×
02:43 chaica: このくらいいいと思うんだけど
02:43 yuzu__rinrin: 俺はいいと思う
02:44 chaica: 割とノーツも詰まってないし大丈夫だと思うんだよね
02:44 chaica: まあ変えろと言われたら変えるけど
02:44 yuzu__rinrin: 00:50:450 - 00:50:557 - 00:50:664 - 三連ここに乗せたほうきれいじゃね
02:46 chaica: それだとoniもいじらない完
02:46 chaica: かん
02:46 yuzu__rinrin: べつにかえなくていいか
02:46 chaica: たぶん
02:46 yuzu__rinrin: これ変えても後の方あってたし統一感無くなるわ
02:47 chaica: うむ
02:47 yuzu__rinrin: 00:54:521 (172) - 単発ならkに変えたほうがよさげ
02:47 yuzu__rinrin: dだった
02:47 yuzu__rinrin: dに変えろ
02:48 chaica: ok
02:51 yuzu__rinrin: 色々変えたほうがいい所は出てくるけど変えたら後がつらい
02:54 chaica: mapperの中で勝手に完成してるヤツだ わかるぞ
02:56 yuzu__rinrin: Oni 00:53:878 - k? なんかブツ切り感が否めない
02:58 chaica: あったほうがいいか
02:58 yuzu__rinrin: 個人的には。ノーツの戦いしてないなら入れても文句言われないだろ
02:59 chaica: 叩いた感じ合ったほうがいわかんはないしいれｔ
02:59 yuzu__rinrin: 01:00:735 - ireterutoomoukedo
03:00 chaica: もちろん入れた
03:00 yuzu__rinrin: やっぱ日本人のマップmodしてるの楽でいいわ
03:02 chaica: いちいちフォーラムに書くのめんどいしな￣
03:02 chaica: vcだともっと楽だけど何があったか第三者に伝わらないから完
03:02 yuzu__rinrin: vcが一番楽だけど今の時間帯親が56しに来る
03:03 chaica: ﾎﾟｯﾁｬﾏ･･･
03:03 yuzu__rinrin: 01:24:950 (426,427,428,429,430,431,432,433,434,435,436,437,438) - nice pp
03:04 chaica: ddkkddk(クソ叩きにくい)
03:04 yuzu__rinrin: 勝手にmod始めたけどクソス貰っていいか
03:05 chaica: フォーラムに貼りな ２億個送る
03:05 yuzu__rinrin: 5000兆欲しい
Topic Starter
アリです updateyuzu__rinrin wrote:
omatasetonight02:28 yuzu__rinrin: 干し芋
02:28 chaica: 今落花生食ってる
02:29 yuzu__rinrin: 一か所めっちゃ気になること押し付けていい？
02:29 *yuzu__rinrin is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1183429 Utatsuki Kaori - Hold on me ~Koi no Mahou~ [Kantan]]
02:29 chaica: もうどこでも違和感だしOK(
02:30 yuzu__rinrin: 00:51:950 (58) - ここ裏のvo取るのおかしいし00:51:521 - に移動した方分かりやすくね
02:30 chaica: やっぱり？
02:30 chaica: 変えるか
02:31 yuzu__rinrin: うん、わかりやすい方がいい
02:31 chaica: こういう一生スネアの音なってる曲、低難易度作りにくくね
02:31 yuzu__rinrin: 一生vocalに合わせてるからそこまで
02:32 yuzu__rinrin: Futsuuは無理
02:32 chaica: ボーカルに合わせたら合わせたで音拾いたくなってしまうニョ
02:32 yuzu__rinrin: ニョ
02:33 chaica: 実際この譜面どう思う？
02:33 yuzu__rinrin: さっきのとこ以外いいと思うよ
02:34 chaica: なるほど
02:34 yuzu__rinrin: ん～完璧主観だけど00:33:079 (36) - を00:34:793 - ？
02:36 chaica: なる
02:37 chaica: できるだけ大音符につなげたくないんだよね 00:33:936 - はどう
02:37 chaica: ちょっと待って
02:37 yuzu__rinrin: おう
02:37 chaica: 考えを改めたわよ
02:37 yuzu__rinrin: はい
02:38 chaica: 00:19:807 (18,19,20,21) -
02:38 chaica: みたいな感じになるな
02:38 yuzu__rinrin: たし蟹
02:39 chaica: 配色いじった
02:39 chaica: 00:34:365 (37,38,39) - 何がいいと思う
02:40 yuzu__rinrin: 音を忠実に取るならkdK ドラムに合わせていきたいならddK
02:40 chaica: 他の難易度みてkdkにした
02:41 yuzu__rinrin: kdkにするなら00:33:508 - dにした方が聞こえよさそう
02:41 chaica: 変えたよ
02:41 yuzu__rinrin: シイタケ
02:42 chaica: 噛み合ったね
02:42 yuzu__rinrin: ｲｼﾝﾃﾞﾝｼﾝ
02:42 chaica: 難しい見れる？
02:42 yuzu__rinrin: miyoutoomoeba
02:42 chaica: 00:52:378 (164,165,166,167) -
02:42 chaica: ダメ？
02:43 yuzu__rinrin: BNによっては×
02:43 chaica: このくらいいいと思うんだけど
02:43 yuzu__rinrin: 俺はいいと思う
02:44 chaica: 割とノーツも詰まってないし大丈夫だと思うんだよね
02:44 chaica: まあ変えろと言われたら変えるけど
02:44 yuzu__rinrin: 00:50:450 - 00:50:557 - 00:50:664 - 三連ここに乗せたほうきれいじゃね
02:46 chaica: それだとoniもいじらない完
02:46 chaica: かん
02:46 yuzu__rinrin: べつにかえなくていいか
02:46 chaica: たぶん
02:46 yuzu__rinrin: これ変えても後の方あってたし統一感無くなるわ
02:47 chaica: うむ
02:47 yuzu__rinrin: 00:54:521 (172) - 単発ならkに変えたほうがよさげ
02:47 yuzu__rinrin: dだった
02:47 yuzu__rinrin: dに変えろ
02:48 chaica: ok
02:51 yuzu__rinrin: 色々変えたほうがいい所は出てくるけど変えたら後がつらい
02:54 chaica: mapperの中で勝手に完成してるヤツだ わかるぞ
02:56 yuzu__rinrin: Oni 00:53:878 - k? なんかブツ切り感が否めない
02:58 chaica: あったほうがいいか
02:58 yuzu__rinrin: 個人的には。ノーツの戦いしてないなら入れても文句言われないだろ
02:59 chaica: 叩いた感じ合ったほうがいわかんはないしいれｔ
02:59 yuzu__rinrin: 01:00:735 - ireterutoomoukedo
03:00 chaica: もちろん入れた
03:00 yuzu__rinrin: やっぱ日本人のマップmodしてるの楽でいいわ
03:02 chaica: いちいちフォーラムに書くのめんどいしな￣
03:02 chaica: vcだともっと楽だけど何があったか第三者に伝わらないから完
03:02 yuzu__rinrin: vcが一番楽だけど今の時間帯親が56しに来る
03:03 chaica: ﾎﾟｯﾁｬﾏ･･･
03:03 yuzu__rinrin: 01:24:950 (426,427,428,429,430,431,432,433,434,435,436,437,438) - nice pp
03:04 chaica: ddkkddk(クソ叩きにくい)
03:04 yuzu__rinrin: 勝手にmod始めたけどクソス貰っていいか
03:05 chaica: フォーラムに貼りな ２億個送る
03:05 yuzu__rinrin: 5000兆欲しい
M4M
good luck~~~
Kantan
・00:06:092 - change to d 声が低くなってる印象があります
・00:40:793 - delete and 00:41:650 - add k vocalの伸びがあるのでピアノの方に合わせたらどうかなぁ
・01:13:378 - 01:20:235 - delete kantanにしては5連符が多い気がしたので、同じくvocalの伸びを取る方針で
・01:00:950 (72,73,74,75,76) - BPM低いけど、dkkdk(1/1)は少し難しい気も。。。
・00:40:793 - delete and 00:41:650 - add k vocalの伸びがあるのでピアノの方に合わせたらどうかなぁ
・01:13:378 - 01:20:235 - delete kantanにしては5連符が多い気がしたので、同じくvocalの伸びを取る方針で
・01:00:950 (72,73,74,75,76) - BPM低いけど、dkkdk(1/1)は少し難しい気も。。。
Saikoro's Futsuu
・00:03:092 - change to d vocal合わせ
・00:06:521 (10,11,12) - Ctrl+G こっちのほうがvocalに合いそう
・00:38:008 - delete vocalが伸びているので
・00:41:650 - add k ピアノ
・00:48:079 - delete あってもいいけど、無い方が個人的に好きです
・01:03:521 - delete 何をfollowしているのかよくわかりませんけど、どっち道kiaiで長い1/2パターンが続いているので長い休憩が欲しいところです。
・01:06:950 - delete ^
・01:11:235 (159,160) - Ctrl+G 01:18:092 (176,177) - pattern
・01:11:878 - delete oo o o リズムパターンに持ち込んでもいいかも
・01:15:521 - move to 1/2 → ^
・01:18:735 - delete ^
・01:22:378 - delete ^
・00:06:521 (10,11,12) - Ctrl+G こっちのほうがvocalに合いそう
・00:38:008 - delete vocalが伸びているので
・00:41:650 - add k ピアノ
・00:48:079 - delete あってもいいけど、無い方が個人的に好きです
・01:03:521 - delete 何をfollowしているのかよくわかりませんけど、どっち道kiaiで長い1/2パターンが続いているので長い休憩が欲しいところです。
・01:06:950 - delete ^
・01:11:235 (159,160) - Ctrl+G 01:18:092 (176,177) - pattern
・01:11:878 - delete oo o o リズムパターンに持ち込んでもいいかも
・01:15:521 - move to 1/2 → ^
・01:18:735 - delete ^
・01:22:378 - delete ^
Muzukashii
・00:15:092 (40,41,42,43) - delete futsuuとの差を考えて無くしたほうがいいかも
・00:18:521 (47,48,49,50) - delete ^
・00:56:664 (170,171,172) - swap 00:49:807 (145,146,147,148) - と比べて良い変化になるかと
・01:02:235 - delete and 01:02:450 (193,194) - swap 小節の終わりをdに合わせたほうが次にうまくつなげれるかと
・01:10:378 - 01:11:878 - delete 1/2パターンが長いと飽きが来るので少し間を開けては？
・01:17:235 - 01:18:735 - delete ^
・01:24:950 (292,294) - change to d 同じ音なので
・00:18:521 (47,48,49,50) - delete ^
・00:56:664 (170,171,172) - swap 00:49:807 (145,146,147,148) - と比べて良い変化になるかと
・01:02:235 - delete and 01:02:450 (193,194) - swap 小節の終わりをdに合わせたほうが次にうまくつなげれるかと
・01:10:378 - 01:11:878 - delete 1/2パターンが長いと飽きが来るので少し間を開けては？
・01:17:235 - 01:18:735 - delete ^
・01:24:950 (292,294) - change to d 同じ音なので
Oni
・00:28:150 - delete 小節の始まりを強調したいかな
・00:51:735 (235,236) - swap 00:51:735 - こっちを強調するべきかな
良い譜面です^^
・00:51:735 (235,236) - swap 00:51:735 - こっちを強調するべきかな
良い譜面です^^
good luck~~~
Topic Starter
thank you for modding!yassu- wrote:
M4MKantan・00:06:092 - change to d 声が低くなってる印象があります - ok
・00:40:793 - delete and 00:41:650 - add k vocalの伸びがあるのでピアノの方に合わせたらどうかなぁ - 2回kkdが続くのは嫌なのとボーカルで取っているのでno change
・01:13:378 - 01:20:235 - delete kantanにしては5連符が多い気がしたので、同じくvocalの伸びを取る方針で
・01:00:950 (72,73,74,75,76) - BPM低いけど、dkkdk(1/1)は少し難しい気も。。。Muzukashii・00:15:092 (40,41,42,43) - delete futsuuとの差を考えて無くしたほうがいいかも - 41,42だけ削除
・00:18:521 (47,48,49,50) - delete ^ - 上と同じ感じで
・00:56:664 (170,171,172) - swap 00:49:807 (145,146,147,148) - と比べて良い変化になるかと - dkkdにしました
・01:02:235 - delete and 01:02:450 (193,194) - swap 小節の終わりをdに合わせたほうが次にうまくつなげれるかと - 01:02:664 (198) - の音はkで取りたいのでno change
・01:10:378 - 01:11:878 - delete 1/2パターンが長いと飽きが来るので少し間を開けては？ - Oniでここにノーツは存在していなかったので1/2左にずらしました
・01:17:235 - 01:18:735 - delete ^ - ^
・01:24:950 (292,294) - change to d 同じ音なので - same as OniOni・00:28:150 - delete 小節の始まりを強調したいかな - ok
・00:51:735 (235,236) - swap 00:51:735 - こっちを強調するべきかな - suneあのおとをとりたいのでno change.
良い譜面です^^
good luck~~~
良くなったと思います。ありがとうございました！yassu- wrote:
Saikoro's Futsuu・00:03:092 - change to d vocal合わせ ほかの難易度に合わせる意味でも変更しました。00:09:950 も同様
・00:06:521 (10,11,12) - Ctrl+G こっちのほうがvocalに合いそう そうですね。fixed
・00:38:008 - delete vocalが伸びているので ここは音が強いので残したいです。また指摘されたら考えます。
・00:41:650 - add k ピアノ changed
・00:48:079 - delete あってもいいけど、無い方が個人的に好きです no changed
・01:03:521 - delete 何をfollowしているのかよくわかりませんけど、どっち道kiaiで長い1/2パターンが続いているので長い休憩が欲しいところです。
・01:06:950 - delete ^ 最初は無かったんですけどね～ また消します
・01:11:235 (159,160) - Ctrl+G 01:18:092 (176,177) - pattern
・01:11:878 - delete oo o o リズムパターンに持ち込んでもいいかも fixed ちょっと難しすぎる気がしてたのでちょうどいいです。
・01:15:521 - move to 1/2 → ^ fixed 01:09:521 とパターンを合わせる意味があったのですがvocalをフォローする意味でもありですね
・01:18:735 - delete ^
・01:22:378 - delete ^
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22:36 chaica: ebihurai
14:36 chaica: こんｗ
14:37 chaica: やりましょう
14:37 Labyr: 昨日ircする気満々で言いたいことまとめてたのにもう忘れた
14:38 Labyr: オニから見る
14:38 chaica: おｋ
14:38 Labyr: 00:03:950 - delete?
14:39 Labyr: 00:10:807- ^
14:39 chaica: まあむずかしいみたかんじないほうがいいか
14:40 chaica: けした
14:40 Labyr: それもあるね 単純に無いほうがvocalとdrumの音ハッキリできて言いと思う
14:41 chaica: なるほどね
14:41 Labyr: 00:17:021 (58,59,60) -
14:41 Labyr: これdkdでもいいとおもった
14:44 chaica: 00:17:235 (58) - でまあまあ高い音鳴ってるくない？
14:44 chaica: 00:16:378 (54) - これみたいな
14:44 chaica: 00:17:450 (59) - とりあえずここdにした
14:45 Labyr: 00:21:092 (79) - add finish
14:47 chaica: Ng～～～～～～～～～～～～
14:47 chaica: んん～
14:47 Labyr: 言っておいてなんだけど
14:47 Labyr: そっから先似たような音無限になってるし
14:47 Labyr: 好みかもしれん イントロからAメロに切り替わるタイミングだし俺はBIGにしちゃう
14:48 chaica: 次すぐ大音符くるしいらないかな
14:48 chaica: 俺はそうおもう
14:50 chaica: 00:36:936 (157) - ここさ
14:50 chaica: dのほうが良くない？
14:50 Labyr: うん
14:50 Labyr: それでもあり
14:51 chaica: ok
14:51 Labyr: kiai time直前のさ
14:51 Labyr: 小節線あるじゃん 赤線引いてあるとこ
14:51 chaica: うん
14:51 Labyr: 00:48:936 -
14:51 Labyr: ここにも赤線ひいて
14:52 Labyr: timing setupからstyleってタブのomit first bar lineってのチェック
14:53 Labyr: 引いて無いと実際たたいてるときに線二重になってるじゃん それを消す コレ多分BNに指摘されると思う
14:54 chaica: けした
15:01 Labyr: 01:02:450 (294,295,296) - ここのdkk違和感あるきがする dddでもいいかもしらん
15:02 Labyr: それか01:02:557 (295) - こいつを
15:02 Labyr: 01:01:914 - ここにずらすか
15:02 chaica: 01:01:164 (285,286,287) - ここでddk置いたからもう１回ddk置くの避けたいん
15:03 chaica: ああ
15:03 Labyr: 01:02:450 - と01:02:664 - で
15:03 Labyr: ドラムのd dってなってるから故
15:04 Labyr: vocalもいれたいなら後者はkでもいいとおもう
15:07 chaica: kkdにした
15:07 Labyr: ok
15:08 Labyr: muzu~
15:12 Labyr: 00:26:008 (74) -
15:13 Labyr: 00:25:579 -
15:13 Labyr: こ↑こ↓に移動
15:13 Labyr: で00:25:579 (73,74) - こいつらをctrlG
15:14 Labyr: というのも
15:14 Labyr: k d k の配置が多く目立つな～って思ったから
15:14 chaica: ん～
15:14 Labyr: 別の配色を使いたいよねって言う話
15:15 chaica: kdk多いのは曲的に仕方ないと思ってる
15:16 chaica: 00:26:008 (74) - のボーカル取りたいからkeep
15:17 Labyr: 00:27:722 (78) - move to 00:28:150 -
15:17 Labyr: 同じ理由 and follow drum
15:20 chaica: ok
15:20 Labyr: 00:42:400 (124) - change d
15:20 Labyr: 00:44:437 (131,132) - ctrl G
15:21 Labyr: 最初は音的にD k k dなんだろうけど次にそれと同じ配置を使うからそれの逆色を使おうねっていうアレ
15:22 chaica: Oniの配置的に変えたくないなあ
15:22 chaica: ここいじるとOniとの統一性壊れる
15:22 Labyr: なら維持でいいかな
15:24 chaica: ok
15:25 Labyr: 01:02:450 (197,198) - ctrl G
15:27 chaica: 01:03:735 (203,204,205,206) - ,01:05:450 (211,212,213,214) - 的にdkdkがベストと思う
15:28 Labyr: 01:02:664 (198) - ここで曲調かわってるから選択肢としてはなくはないなとも思ったし
15:29 Labyr: oniをkkdにしたならアリだとは思うけどまああいりあさんの言ってることも百リアル
15:31 chaica: おにいじるとそれはそれでkdkが壊れる
15:32 chaica: 01:08:664 (330,331,332,333) - がkdkじゃない時点で壊れいる説あるけど
15:32 Labyr: drum的にはそこは1/4ぶっこんでもいいと思う
15:34 chaica: もしkdk守りたいならここはdkkdkよりdkkdd
15:34 chaica: しかし俺はdkkdkが死ぬほど置きたい
15:35 Labyr: そこまで細かくみる必要もないとおもうし許容されるとおもうよ
15:35 chaica: だよな
15:36 Labyr: うん
15:40 chaica: kantanいきますか
15:40 Labyr: ほい
15:41 Labyr: 00:17:235 (16) - d ?
15:41 Labyr: あー
15:42 chaica: 高い音がなんとやら
15:42 Labyr: sorena
15:46 Labyr: 01:22:378 (103) - delete
15:46 chaica: 01:09:521 (85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93) - みたいな感じで一区切りのほうが分かりやすいか
15:47 Labyr: 次のd k d k パターンも明白になるし消してよいと思われる
15:47 Labyr: 01:23:235 (103,104,105,106,107) -
15:47 Labyr: こいつらの話ね
15:48 chaica: ｋ処刑完了
15:49 Labyr: 同じ理由で
15:49 Labyr: muzuに戻るんだけどW
15:51 Labyr: 01:22:164 - こっから1/4のドラム鳴ってるってのと
15:52 Labyr: 01:23:235 - ここから続くd k d k パターンを明白にしたいって理由で
15:52 Labyr: 01:22:700 (286) - move to 01:22:271 -
15:52 Labyr: 01:23:021 (288) - delete
15:52 Labyr: 01:22:164 (283) - change k
15:52 Labyr: っていうのはどうですか
15:54 chaica: 01:23:021 (288) - ここ
15:54 chaica: 消したくない
15:54 Labyr: ソマ～？
16:00 chaica: シンメトリー大好きマンだから01:20:450 (275,276,277,278,279,280,281) - と統一性持たせたくない
16:00 chaica: ？
16:00 chaica: k d ddd k d
16:02 Labyr: 01:22:378 - ここから
16:02 Labyr: ddd?
16:02 Labyr: 1/4
16:02 chaica: sou
16:02 Labyr: 01:22:164 - こっからのが
16:02 Labyr: よくない？
16:04 chaica: 01:22:271 - も01:22:485 - もどっちみち音鳴ってるし俺は01:22:485 - がいいかな
16:06 chaica: ここは完全に好みじゃない？前者も音に合うけどパターン的に
16:06 Labyr: そうだね
16:07 Labyr: 色的にはシンメトリー的な感じのほうがいい気がするし問題なさSO
Topic Starter
Labyr wrote:
irc modSPOILER22:36 chaica: ebihurai
14:36 chaica: こんｗ
14:37 chaica: やりましょう
14:37 Labyr: 昨日ircする気満々で言いたいことまとめてたのにもう忘れた
14:38 Labyr: オニから見る
14:38 chaica: おｋ
14:38 Labyr: 00:03:950 - delete?
14:39 Labyr: 00:10:807- ^
14:39 chaica: まあむずかしいみたかんじないほうがいいか
14:40 chaica: けした
14:40 Labyr: それもあるね 単純に無いほうがvocalとdrumの音ハッキリできて言いと思う
14:41 chaica: なるほどね
14:41 Labyr: 00:17:021 (58,59,60) -
14:41 Labyr: これdkdでもいいとおもった
14:44 chaica: 00:17:235 (58) - でまあまあ高い音鳴ってるくない？
14:44 chaica: 00:16:378 (54) - これみたいな
14:44 chaica: 00:17:450 (59) - とりあえずここdにした
14:45 Labyr: 00:21:092 (79) - add finish
14:47 chaica: Ng～～～～～～～～～～～～
14:47 chaica: んん～
14:47 Labyr: 言っておいてなんだけど
14:47 Labyr: そっから先似たような音無限になってるし
14:47 Labyr: 好みかもしれん イントロからAメロに切り替わるタイミングだし俺はBIGにしちゃう
14:48 chaica: 次すぐ大音符くるしいらないかな
14:48 chaica: 俺はそうおもう
14:50 chaica: 00:36:936 (157) - ここさ
14:50 chaica: dのほうが良くない？
14:50 Labyr: うん
14:50 Labyr: それでもあり
14:51 chaica: ok
14:51 Labyr: kiai time直前のさ
14:51 Labyr: 小節線あるじゃん 赤線引いてあるとこ
14:51 chaica: うん
14:51 Labyr: 00:48:936 -
14:51 Labyr: ここにも赤線ひいて
14:52 Labyr: timing setupからstyleってタブのomit first bar lineってのチェック
14:53 Labyr: 引いて無いと実際たたいてるときに線二重になってるじゃん それを消す コレ多分BNに指摘されると思う
14:54 chaica: けした
15:01 Labyr: 01:02:450 (294,295,296) - ここのdkk違和感あるきがする dddでもいいかもしらん
15:02 Labyr: それか01:02:557 (295) - こいつを
15:02 Labyr: 01:01:914 - ここにずらすか
15:02 chaica: 01:01:164 (285,286,287) - ここでddk置いたからもう１回ddk置くの避けたいん
15:03 chaica: ああ
15:03 Labyr: 01:02:450 - と01:02:664 - で
15:03 Labyr: ドラムのd dってなってるから故
15:04 Labyr: vocalもいれたいなら後者はkでもいいとおもう
15:07 chaica: kkdにした
15:07 Labyr: ok
15:08 Labyr: muzu~
15:12 Labyr: 00:26:008 (74) -
15:13 Labyr: 00:25:579 -
15:13 Labyr: こ↑こ↓に移動
15:13 Labyr: で00:25:579 (73,74) - こいつらをctrlG
15:14 Labyr: というのも
15:14 Labyr: k d k の配置が多く目立つな～って思ったから
15:14 chaica: ん～
15:14 Labyr: 別の配色を使いたいよねって言う話
15:15 chaica: kdk多いのは曲的に仕方ないと思ってる
15:16 chaica: 00:26:008 (74) - のボーカル取りたいからkeep
15:17 Labyr: 00:27:722 (78) - move to 00:28:150 -
15:17 Labyr: 同じ理由 and follow drum
15:20 chaica: ok
15:20 Labyr: 00:42:400 (124) - change d
15:20 Labyr: 00:44:437 (131,132) - ctrl G
15:21 Labyr: 最初は音的にD k k dなんだろうけど次にそれと同じ配置を使うからそれの逆色を使おうねっていうアレ
15:22 chaica: Oniの配置的に変えたくないなあ
15:22 chaica: ここいじるとOniとの統一性壊れる
15:22 Labyr: なら維持でいいかな
15:24 chaica: ok
15:25 Labyr: 01:02:450 (197,198) - ctrl G
15:27 chaica: 01:03:735 (203,204,205,206) - ,01:05:450 (211,212,213,214) - 的にdkdkがベストと思う
15:28 Labyr: 01:02:664 (198) - ここで曲調かわってるから選択肢としてはなくはないなとも思ったし
15:29 Labyr: oniをkkdにしたならアリだとは思うけどまああいりあさんの言ってることも百リアル
15:31 chaica: おにいじるとそれはそれでkdkが壊れる
15:32 chaica: 01:08:664 (330,331,332,333) - がkdkじゃない時点で壊れいる説あるけど
15:32 Labyr: drum的にはそこは1/4ぶっこんでもいいと思う
15:34 chaica: もしkdk守りたいならここはdkkdkよりdkkdd
15:34 chaica: しかし俺はdkkdkが死ぬほど置きたい
15:35 Labyr: そこまで細かくみる必要もないとおもうし許容されるとおもうよ
15:35 chaica: だよな
15:36 Labyr: うん
15:40 chaica: kantanいきますか
15:40 Labyr: ほい
15:41 Labyr: 00:17:235 (16) - d ?
15:41 Labyr: あー
15:42 chaica: 高い音がなんとやら
15:42 Labyr: sorena
15:46 Labyr: 01:22:378 (103) - delete
15:46 chaica: 01:09:521 (85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93) - みたいな感じで一区切りのほうが分かりやすいか
15:47 Labyr: 次のd k d k パターンも明白になるし消してよいと思われる
15:47 Labyr: 01:23:235 (103,104,105,106,107) -
15:47 Labyr: こいつらの話ね
15:48 chaica: ｋ処刑完了
15:49 Labyr: 同じ理由で
15:49 Labyr: muzuに戻るんだけどW
15:51 Labyr: 01:22:164 - こっから1/4のドラム鳴ってるってのと
15:52 Labyr: 01:23:235 - ここから続くd k d k パターンを明白にしたいって理由で
15:52 Labyr: 01:22:700 (286) - move to 01:22:271 -
15:52 Labyr: 01:23:021 (288) - delete
15:52 Labyr: 01:22:164 (283) - change k
15:52 Labyr: っていうのはどうですか
15:54 chaica: 01:23:021 (288) - ここ
15:54 chaica: 消したくない
15:54 Labyr: ソマ～？
16:00 chaica: シンメトリー大好きマンだから01:20:450 (275,276,277,278,279,280,281) - と統一性持たせたくない
16:00 chaica: ？
16:00 chaica: k d ddd k d
16:02 Labyr: 01:22:378 - ここから
16:02 Labyr: ddd?
16:02 Labyr: 1/4
16:02 chaica: sou
16:02 Labyr: 01:22:164 - こっからのが
16:02 Labyr: よくない？
16:04 chaica: 01:22:271 - も01:22:485 - もどっちみち音鳴ってるし俺は01:22:485 - がいいかな
16:06 chaica: ここは完全に好みじゃない？前者も音に合うけどパターン的に
16:06 Labyr: そうだね
16:07 Labyr: 色的にはシンメトリー的な感じのほうがいい気がするし問題なさSO
modありがとナス
Welcome back. From an old M4M.
[General]
I think the artist's preferred romanization is Kaori Utatsuki , as written in her record label's site: https://www.felislabel.com/artist
[Kantan]
00:16:378 (15,16,17,18) - how about change to d-dkd, because it think the kick at 00:18:092 - would be more emphasized with d
00:34:793 - maybe move to 00:33:936 - , 00:33:508 - change to k, and 00:35:222 - change to D. This way would flow more fluid and the end finisher is consistent with futsuu and muzu.
01:23:664 (103,105) - i think it would match the synth better if you put notes at 01:25:378 - and 01:26:235 - instead.
[Saikoro's Futsuu]
00:19:807 - maybe change this to k so it's consistent with 00:16:378 - ?
00:39:079 (79,80,81) - change to kdk? it would fits the vocal better and give more variation
00:41:222 - consider to change to d to reflect similar pitch with 00:40:365 -
[Muzukashii]
00:08:664 (22,23,24) - change to ddk for consistency with 00:01:807 (3,4,5) - ? or if you want a variation i think kkd like you did in Oni would be nicer.
00:26:650 - change to d? i think this would highlight relatively higher pitch at 00:27:508 - in a way better
00:32:650 (94,95,96) - change to kdk? sounds better to me.
00:41:222 - maybe change to d, since the pitch is same as 00:40:365 -
[Oni]
00:20:450 - move to 00:20:342? - i hear the drum is at this point.
00:32:972 - remove this note to make the vocal more clear and coherent with 00:26:008 (101,102,103,104) - ?
00:35:222 - how about change to D for consistency across the diffs?
00:50:128 - consider to add d for consistency with 00:56:985 -
01:01:807 (288,289,290,291) - how about make a kkddk 5-plet here? sounds better to me and the length is comparable with 01:05:021 (306,307,308,309,310) -
you may call me back after that~
[General]
I think the artist's preferred romanization is Kaori Utatsuki , as written in her record label's site: https://www.felislabel.com/artist
[Kantan]
00:16:378 (15,16,17,18) - how about change to d-dkd, because it think the kick at 00:18:092 - would be more emphasized with d
00:34:793 - maybe move to 00:33:936 - , 00:33:508 - change to k, and 00:35:222 - change to D. This way would flow more fluid and the end finisher is consistent with futsuu and muzu.
01:23:664 (103,105) - i think it would match the synth better if you put notes at 01:25:378 - and 01:26:235 - instead.
[Saikoro's Futsuu]
00:19:807 - maybe change this to k so it's consistent with 00:16:378 - ?
00:39:079 (79,80,81) - change to kdk? it would fits the vocal better and give more variation
00:41:222 - consider to change to d to reflect similar pitch with 00:40:365 -
[Muzukashii]
00:08:664 (22,23,24) - change to ddk for consistency with 00:01:807 (3,4,5) - ? or if you want a variation i think kkd like you did in Oni would be nicer.
00:26:650 - change to d? i think this would highlight relatively higher pitch at 00:27:508 - in a way better
00:32:650 (94,95,96) - change to kdk? sounds better to me.
00:41:222 - maybe change to d, since the pitch is same as 00:40:365 -
[Oni]
00:20:450 - move to 00:20:342? - i hear the drum is at this point.
00:32:972 - remove this note to make the vocal more clear and coherent with 00:26:008 (101,102,103,104) - ?
00:35:222 - how about change to D for consistency across the diffs?
00:50:128 - consider to add d for consistency with 00:56:985 -
01:01:807 (288,289,290,291) - how about make a kkddk 5-plet here? sounds better to me and the length is comparable with 01:05:021 (306,307,308,309,310) -
you may call me back after that~
thanks for moddingVolta wrote:
Welcome back. From an old M4M.
[Saikoro's Futsuu]
00:19:807 - maybe change this to k so it's consistent with 00:16:378 - ? changed~
00:39:079 (79,80,81) - change to kdk? it would fits the vocal better and give more variation okay
00:41:222 - consider to change to d to reflect similar pitch with 00:40:365 - oki-
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Topic Starter
thank you for modding!Volta wrote:
Welcome back. From an old M4M.
[General]
I think the artist's preferred romanization is Kaori Utatsuki , as written in her record label's site: https://www.felislabel.com/artist - changed.
[Kantan]
00:16:378 (15,16,17,18) - how about change to d-dkd, because it think the kick at 00:18:092 - would be more emphasized with d - ok.
00:34:793 - maybe move to 00:33:936 - , 00:33:508 - change to k, and 00:35:222 - change to D. This way would flow more fluid and the end finisher is consistent with futsuu and muzu. - ok
01:23:664 (103,105) - i think it would match the synth better if you put notes at 01:25:378 - and 01:26:235 - instead. - 01:26:235 - add k.
[Muzukashii]
00:08:664 (22,23,24) - change to ddk for consistency with 00:01:807 (3,4,5) - ? or if you want a variation i think kkd like you did in Oni would be nicer. - umm..I make some changes Muzu and Oni. - 00:08:664 (22,23,24) - change dkk.and - 00:12:092 (31,32,33) - change ddk. 00:01:807 (3,4,5) - 00:05:235 (12,13,14) - I have the opposite color scheme.and and 00:13:164 (41) - change k.
00:26:650 - change to d? i think this would highlight relatively higher pitch at 00:27:508 - in a way better - ok
00:32:650 (94,95,96) - change to kdk? sounds better to me. - umm,no change.I think that it is good as it is.
00:41:222 - maybe change to d, since the pitch is same as 00:40:365 - ok
[Oni]
00:20:450 - move to 00:20:342? - i hear the drum is at this point. - ok.and 00:20:664 (75) - change d.Since the sound of the drum that is constant.
00:32:972 - remove this note to make the vocal more clear and coherent with 00:26:008 (101,102,103,104) - ? - ok
00:35:222 - how about change to D for consistency across the diffs? - ok
00:50:128 - consider to add d for consistency with 00:56:985 - no change.00:48:950 , 00:55:807 - Because it becomes exactly the same arrangement.
01:01:807 (288,289,290,291) - how about make a kkddk 5-plet here? sounds better to me and the length is comparable with 01:05:021 (306,307,308,309,310) - umm,I think there are a lot of kkddk in kiai of this map.To that end, here is changing dare color scheme. I changed to kdkdk to put 5-plet here.
you may call me back after that~
quick recheck (no kd)
[Oni]
01:01:807 (287,288,289,290,291) - your choice seems unfit here. if you want to change the color scheme, how about change to kdkkd instead? sounds more fitting with the vocal.
[Oni]
01:01:807 (287,288,289,290,291) - your choice seems unfit here. if you want to change the color scheme, how about change to kdkkd instead? sounds more fitting with the vocal.
Topic Starter
thank you for modding!Volta wrote:
quick recheck (no kd)
[Oni]
01:01:807 (287,288,289,290,291) - your choice seems unfit here. if you want to change the color scheme, how about change to kdkkd instead? sounds more fitting with the vocal. - ok.changed
~Bubbled~
It is not from Rdmlish...., it is from Poplish ;w;
[Timing]
! 00:21:508 - You need not to shift the note forcefully. The timing should follow the drum set concretely. You may notice that early vocal notes happen as well at 00:00:950 - , but the sound is 'h-' so it is not that obvious comparing with 'ky-' sound at 00:21:508 - being quite clear. They ought to be omitted as a single out-standing vocal shifting.
The main point is, timing should follow a constant matter in a music (most commonly is drum set). Strong base drum solidly falls on 00:21:521 - , and so as the upcoming drum set elements. Therefore, only the initial red timing point is necessary, others could be removed.
(I will use old timing to mod, you can do the timing fix in your last step.)
[Kantan]
> 00:42:936 - add a don to balance the density spread within Kantan and balance with Futsuu as well
> 00:44:650 - same as above, kat this time for easy follow-up after Finisher
[Muzukashii]
> 00:37:365 - shift it 1/4 backward to match the vocal, same as 00:38:972 -
> 00:52:592 - / 00:59:450 - monochrome triplet is highly prefered. kkk perhaps, it still fits the high-pitch vocal well.
[Oni]
> 00:20:021 (71,72,73,74,75,76) - mono-don development seems a bit boring. Try adding some colour on 00:20:235 (72,73,74,75) - , dk kd is recommended.
> 01:22:378 - changing to k feels more natural with 01:21:950 -
> 01:03:092 - the pattern should be alike as the intro part which is vocal-empty too (00:15:092 - ). 01:03:521 - could be shifted to 01:03:628 - , the rhythm sounds better too. i.e.01:03:092 - k dd kkdk
> 01:06:521 - same as above, maybe k dd kdkk as a variety.
> 01:24:950 - / 01:25:378 - dkd sounds smoother, they are very different from 'ddk' at 01:23:235 - / 01:24:092 -
[]
Sorry I have to pop the bubble now. Call me back when you fix the things above.
[Timing]
! 00:21:508 - You need not to shift the note forcefully. The timing should follow the drum set concretely. You may notice that early vocal notes happen as well at 00:00:950 - , but the sound is 'h-' so it is not that obvious comparing with 'ky-' sound at 00:21:508 - being quite clear. They ought to be omitted as a single out-standing vocal shifting.
The main point is, timing should follow a constant matter in a music (most commonly is drum set). Strong base drum solidly falls on 00:21:521 - , and so as the upcoming drum set elements. Therefore, only the initial red timing point is necessary, others could be removed.
(I will use old timing to mod, you can do the timing fix in your last step.)
[Kantan]
> 00:42:936 - add a don to balance the density spread within Kantan and balance with Futsuu as well
> 00:44:650 - same as above, kat this time for easy follow-up after Finisher
[Muzukashii]
> 00:37:365 - shift it 1/4 backward to match the vocal, same as 00:38:972 -
> 00:52:592 - / 00:59:450 - monochrome triplet is highly prefered. kkk perhaps, it still fits the high-pitch vocal well.
[Oni]
> 00:20:021 (71,72,73,74,75,76) - mono-don development seems a bit boring. Try adding some colour on 00:20:235 (72,73,74,75) - , dk kd is recommended.
> 01:22:378 - changing to k feels more natural with 01:21:950 -
> 01:03:092 - the pattern should be alike as the intro part which is vocal-empty too (00:15:092 - ). 01:03:521 - could be shifted to 01:03:628 - , the rhythm sounds better too. i.e.01:03:092 - k dd kkdk
> 01:06:521 - same as above, maybe k dd kdkk as a variety.
> 01:24:950 - / 01:25:378 - dkd sounds smoother, they are very different from 'ddk' at 01:23:235 - / 01:24:092 -
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Sorry I have to pop the bubble now. Call me back when you fix the things above.
Topic Starter
thank you for modding!Skylish wrote:
It is not from Rdmlish...., it is from Poplish ;w;
[Timing]
! 00:21:508 - You need not to shift the note forcefully. The timing should follow the drum set concretely. You may notice that early vocal notes happen as well at 00:00:950 - , but the sound is 'h-' so it is not that obvious comparing with 'ky-' sound at 00:21:508 - being quite clear. They ought to be omitted as a single out-standing vocal shifting.
The main point is, timing should follow a constant matter in a music (most commonly is drum set). Strong base drum solidly falls on 00:21:521 - , and so as the upcoming drum set elements. Therefore, only the initial red timing point is necessary, others could be removed.
(I will use old timing to mod, you can do the timing fix in your last step.)
This song changes timing with 00:21:508 - and 00:48:950 - . These red lines are required for that.
[Kantan]
> 00:42:936 - add a don to balance the density spread within Kantan and balance with Futsuu as well - ok
> 00:44:650 - same as above, kat this time for easy follow-up after Finisher - ^
[Muzukashii]
> 00:37:365 - shift it 1/4 backward to match the vocal, same as 00:38:972 - - ok.
> 00:52:592 - / 00:59:450 - monochrome triplet is highly prefered. kkk perhaps, it still fits the high-pitch vocal well. - change kkk.
[Oni]
> 00:20:021 (71,72,73,74,75,76) - mono-don development seems a bit boring. Try adding some colour on 00:20:235 (72,73,74,75) - , dk kd is recommended. - change dk kd.
> 01:22:378 - changing to k feels more natural with 01:21:950 - 01:22:592 (409) - ,01:22:807 (411) - 01:23:021 (412) - I want to pick up only the sound that is ringing here at k.
> 01:03:092 - the pattern should be alike as the intro part which is vocal-empty too (00:15:092 - ). 01:03:521 - could be shifted to 01:03:628 - , the rhythm sounds better too. i.e.01:03:092 - k dd kkdk - okay,changed.
> 01:06:521 - same as above, maybe k dd kdkk as a variety. - ok.
> 01:24:950 - / 01:25:378 - dkd sounds smoother, they are very different from 'ddk' at 01:23:235 - / 01:24:092 - When playing this part,I feel uncomfortable with dkd.01:23:235 (413) ~ I think that it would be smoother to unify it with ddk.
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Sorry I have to pop the bubble now. Call me back when you fix the things above.
The reason of removing unnecessary red timing points is that 00:21:521 - the pre-vocal starting sound should be ignored. No shifting of whole offset is required. Overall structure is clear. Spread looks good.
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IRC re-check, Jan 12, 2018
My Japanese sucks2018-01-12 19:58 chaica: hi
2018-01-12 20:39 Skylish: こにちわ
2018-01-12 20:40 chaica: thank you for modding,I replied your mod
2018-01-12 20:41 Skylish: I saw that
2018-01-12 20:41 Skylish: about the timing
2018-01-12 20:42 chaica: hai
2018-01-12 20:43 Skylish: It only needs a single red timing point. 00:21:508 - the vocal starts extra early, but this is the only one off-timed note
2018-01-12 20:43 Skylish: the major melody is still constant along with 00:21:521 -
2018-01-12 20:44 Skylish: if you remove 00:21:508 - this red timing point, you can see that Kiai is perfectly matched the on-beat
2018-01-12 20:44 Skylish: it states that the BPM does not shift at all
2018-01-12 20:45 chaica: aa
2018-01-12 20:45 Skylish: I talked with Volta too
2018-01-12 20:46 Skylish: He agreed that the BPM is constant, but he does not mind that you make that little shifting
2018-01-12 20:46 Skylish: https://puu.sh/yZJqe/55648e2dae.png
2018-01-12 20:50 Skylish: My stance is clear: only 00:00:950 - is needed, other red timing points can be removed
2018-01-12 20:50 Skylish: What's your opinion?
2018-01-12 20:51 chaica: Offset will change in the middle of this song
2018-01-12 20:52 chaica: If it is only 00:00:950, the note will shift.
2018-01-12 20:52 Skylish: the offset at 00:21:508 - ?
2018-01-12 20:52 Skylish: It is not called 'change', it is called a natural vocal offset shift.
2018-01-12 20:53 Skylish: The vocal starts earlier than the original on-beat
2018-01-12 20:53 Skylish: same case happens at 00:00:950 - actually
2018-01-12 20:53 Skylish: but, reminded that: Timing should be based on a solid layer (commonly it is the instrumental layer)
2018-01-12 20:54 Skylish: The vocal shifting at 00:21:508 - can be ignored
2018-01-12 20:54 Skylish: because the drum set does not shift with the vocal sound
2018-01-12 20:56 chaica: u-n
2018-01-12 20:58 chaica: only red line 00:00:950 - ?
2018-01-12 20:58 Skylish: yes, you can hear two versions:
2018-01-12 20:59 Skylish: 00:21:508 - / 00:21:521 -
2018-01-12 20:59 Skylish: the drum set will be off if it starts from 508
2018-01-12 20:59 Skylish: I think you have experienced it when you map the music.
2018-01-12 21:00 Skylish: Simply speaking, only red timing point at 00:00:950 -
2018-01-12 21:00 chaica: eee
2018-01-12 21:01 Skylish: 日本語は読みます you can use Japanese to speak
2018-01-12 21:01 chaica: あの
2018-01-12 21:02 Skylish: I can understand Japanese, but I can't write in Japanese only
2018-01-12 21:02 chaica: そうすると、譜面がずれると思うんですけど
2018-01-12 21:02 chaica: 昔にred lineを00:00:950のみで作りましたがどんどんずれていきました
2018-01-12 21:03 Skylish: はい…
2018-01-12 21:04 chaica: t/13795で聞いてこのオフセになりました
2018-01-12 21:04 chaica: 00:00:950だけならプレイしていても明らかにずれると思います
2018-01-12 21:05 chaica: *ずれると分かると思います
2018-01-12 21:06 Skylish: umm..
2018-01-12 21:07 Skylish: tadoeba, go to 00:00:950 -
2018-01-12 21:08 Skylish: and slow down the play rate to 50%, listen from 00:00:842 -
2018-01-12 21:08 Skylish: or even 25% if you like
2018-01-12 21:09 Skylish: 'H' no oto wa akiraka
2018-01-12 21:10 chaica: yes
2018-01-12 21:10 Skylish: onajini, 00:21:508 - 'Ky-o' no oto wa akiraka
2018-01-12 21:10 Skylish: but you won't say that 00:00:950 - is off
2018-01-12 21:11 Skylish: so as 00:21:521 -
2018-01-12 21:12 Skylish: kaki wa sono timing: 00:48:950 -
2018-01-12 21:13 Skylish: renzoku red timing point shifting wa hen na
2018-01-12 21:14 Skylish: If you need to re-shift the music back to 00:48:950 - , it means that the sudden shifting at 00:21:508 - is wrong.
2018-01-12 21:15 Skylish: **gomenne, boku no nihongo wa heta
2018-01-12 21:15 Skylish: You may need a Japanese friend to help you explain the words above....
2018-01-12 21:16 chaica: 今のままだと、00:21:521- からタイミングが早いってことですか
2018-01-12 21:19 Skylish: In another word, 00:21:508 - wa osoi desu
2018-01-12 21:20 Skylish: It slightly fall behind the drum set. 00:23:650 - / 00:24:079 - listen to these timings
2018-01-12 21:21 Skylish: the drum set fall on the right hand side slightly
2018-01-12 21:22 Skylish: Red markers = correct drum set falling points: https://puu.sh/yZKiB/9c915825d4.png
2018-01-12 21:23 chaica: そうか
2018-01-12 21:23 chaica: むずかしい
2018-01-12 21:24 chaica: 赤線を消してもいいかもしれない、
2018-01-12 21:26 chaica: playした感じは消しても消さなくてもあまり変わらないように感じた。
2018-01-12 21:26 Skylish: yes the change is not obvious (it is just 13 ms difference)
2018-01-12 21:27 Skylish: but any unnecessary red timing points should not be added
2018-01-12 21:28 chaica: はい。要らない時間を取らせて申し訳ありませんでした。
2018-01-12 21:28 Skylish: mondainai!
2018-01-12 21:29 Skylish: I don't want to be rude, or force you to change it. I just want to explain that the current setting is not okay only.
2018-01-12 21:29 Skylish: Thanks for your understanding ;w; (hope you won't feel too bad)
2018-01-12 21:30 Skylish: Please update the beatmap
2018-01-12 21:35 chaica: updated
2018-01-12 20:39 Skylish: こにちわ
2018-01-12 20:40 chaica: thank you for modding,I replied your mod
2018-01-12 20:41 Skylish: I saw that
2018-01-12 20:41 Skylish: about the timing
2018-01-12 20:42 chaica: hai
2018-01-12 20:43 Skylish: It only needs a single red timing point. 00:21:508 - the vocal starts extra early, but this is the only one off-timed note
2018-01-12 20:43 Skylish: the major melody is still constant along with 00:21:521 -
2018-01-12 20:44 Skylish: if you remove 00:21:508 - this red timing point, you can see that Kiai is perfectly matched the on-beat
2018-01-12 20:44 Skylish: it states that the BPM does not shift at all
2018-01-12 20:45 chaica: aa
2018-01-12 20:45 Skylish: I talked with Volta too
2018-01-12 20:46 Skylish: He agreed that the BPM is constant, but he does not mind that you make that little shifting
2018-01-12 20:46 Skylish: https://puu.sh/yZJqe/55648e2dae.png
2018-01-12 20:50 Skylish: My stance is clear: only 00:00:950 - is needed, other red timing points can be removed
2018-01-12 20:50 Skylish: What's your opinion?
2018-01-12 20:51 chaica: Offset will change in the middle of this song
2018-01-12 20:52 chaica: If it is only 00:00:950, the note will shift.
2018-01-12 20:52 Skylish: the offset at 00:21:508 - ?
2018-01-12 20:52 Skylish: It is not called 'change', it is called a natural vocal offset shift.
2018-01-12 20:53 Skylish: The vocal starts earlier than the original on-beat
2018-01-12 20:53 Skylish: same case happens at 00:00:950 - actually
2018-01-12 20:53 Skylish: but, reminded that: Timing should be based on a solid layer (commonly it is the instrumental layer)
2018-01-12 20:54 Skylish: The vocal shifting at 00:21:508 - can be ignored
2018-01-12 20:54 Skylish: because the drum set does not shift with the vocal sound
2018-01-12 20:56 chaica: u-n
2018-01-12 20:58 chaica: only red line 00:00:950 - ?
2018-01-12 20:58 Skylish: yes, you can hear two versions:
2018-01-12 20:59 Skylish: 00:21:508 - / 00:21:521 -
2018-01-12 20:59 Skylish: the drum set will be off if it starts from 508
2018-01-12 20:59 Skylish: I think you have experienced it when you map the music.
2018-01-12 21:00 Skylish: Simply speaking, only red timing point at 00:00:950 -
2018-01-12 21:00 chaica: eee
2018-01-12 21:01 Skylish: 日本語は読みます you can use Japanese to speak
2018-01-12 21:01 chaica: あの
2018-01-12 21:02 Skylish: I can understand Japanese, but I can't write in Japanese only
2018-01-12 21:02 chaica: そうすると、譜面がずれると思うんですけど
2018-01-12 21:02 chaica: 昔にred lineを00:00:950のみで作りましたがどんどんずれていきました
2018-01-12 21:03 Skylish: はい…
2018-01-12 21:04 chaica: t/13795で聞いてこのオフセになりました
2018-01-12 21:04 chaica: 00:00:950だけならプレイしていても明らかにずれると思います
2018-01-12 21:05 chaica: *ずれると分かると思います
2018-01-12 21:06 Skylish: umm..
2018-01-12 21:07 Skylish: tadoeba, go to 00:00:950 -
2018-01-12 21:08 Skylish: and slow down the play rate to 50%, listen from 00:00:842 -
2018-01-12 21:08 Skylish: or even 25% if you like
2018-01-12 21:09 Skylish: 'H' no oto wa akiraka
2018-01-12 21:10 chaica: yes
2018-01-12 21:10 Skylish: onajini, 00:21:508 - 'Ky-o' no oto wa akiraka
2018-01-12 21:10 Skylish: but you won't say that 00:00:950 - is off
2018-01-12 21:11 Skylish: so as 00:21:521 -
2018-01-12 21:12 Skylish: kaki wa sono timing: 00:48:950 -
2018-01-12 21:13 Skylish: renzoku red timing point shifting wa hen na
2018-01-12 21:14 Skylish: If you need to re-shift the music back to 00:48:950 - , it means that the sudden shifting at 00:21:508 - is wrong.
2018-01-12 21:15 Skylish: **gomenne, boku no nihongo wa heta
2018-01-12 21:15 Skylish: You may need a Japanese friend to help you explain the words above....
2018-01-12 21:16 chaica: 今のままだと、00:21:521- からタイミングが早いってことですか
2018-01-12 21:19 Skylish: In another word, 00:21:508 - wa osoi desu
2018-01-12 21:20 Skylish: It slightly fall behind the drum set. 00:23:650 - / 00:24:079 - listen to these timings
2018-01-12 21:21 Skylish: the drum set fall on the right hand side slightly
2018-01-12 21:22 Skylish: Red markers = correct drum set falling points: https://puu.sh/yZKiB/9c915825d4.png
2018-01-12 21:23 chaica: そうか
2018-01-12 21:23 chaica: むずかしい
2018-01-12 21:24 chaica: 赤線を消してもいいかもしれない、
2018-01-12 21:26 chaica: playした感じは消しても消さなくてもあまり変わらないように感じた。
2018-01-12 21:26 Skylish: yes the change is not obvious (it is just 13 ms difference)
2018-01-12 21:27 Skylish: but any unnecessary red timing points should not be added
2018-01-12 21:28 chaica: はい。要らない時間を取らせて申し訳ありませんでした。
2018-01-12 21:28 Skylish: mondainai!
2018-01-12 21:29 Skylish: I don't want to be rude, or force you to change it. I just want to explain that the current setting is not okay only.
2018-01-12 21:29 Skylish: Thanks for your understanding ;w; (hope you won't feel too bad)
2018-01-12 21:30 Skylish: Please update the beatmap
2018-01-12 21:35 chaica: updated
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やるじゃん。