ZAQ - Seven Doors · forum

conTime

Joined June 2014

conTime 2017-01-16T03:40:26+00:00

-Sakurasaki wrote:
Im New

[Kuro]
00:15:302 (3,4) - check the distance
00:17:223 (10) - NC
00:34:809 (7) - NC tick red
00:45:006 (6,7) - Distance please
01:01:706 (12) - There is no sound, delete this
01:07:469 (1,2) - Ctrl + G
01:15:435 (6) - NC
01:17:961 (3,4) - the distance is short, it separates the reverse a little more

The anime songs + ZAQ + high bpm are a mystery.

All Fixed.(Probably)
Thanks for the mod :^

CookieBite

1,483 posts

Joined August 2014

CookieBite 2017-01-16T05:52:29+00:00

random timing check

the last two timing point offset should be 87116 and 88286 respectively

kd pls (x

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,950 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-01-16T14:11:26+00:00

random timing recheck

All guitar sounds fall on 1/2 beats throughout the entire song, plus the exact same mp3, and the timing has been through the ranking criteria before t/258086
That + the exact same timing is used at 00:22:100 (1) - . Not sure why that wasn't brought up either (unless you went through the set as fast as possible to farm a quick and lazy kudosu)

kds pls (x

anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-01-17T05:47:59+00:00

everyone should have combo colors

-Atri-

3,047 posts

Joined March 2013

-Atri- 2017-01-17T06:40:00+00:00

random timing recheck

Remap all of them

kds pls (x

xLolicore-

636 posts

Joined June 2014

Topic Starter

xLolicore- 2017-01-18T07:18:15+00:00

KuranteMelodii wrote:
random timing recheck

Remap all of them

kds pls (x

i will slap u X)

-Atri-

3,047 posts

Joined March 2013

-Atri- 2017-01-19T07:06:55+00:00

Help me copy hitsounding and Combo colors

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 52100
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.2
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 29711
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 3.899998

[Metadata]
Title:Seven Doors
TitleUnicode:Seven Doors
Artist:ZAQ
ArtistUnicode:ZAQ
Creator:xLolicore-
Version:krt's Extreme
Source:トリニティセブン
Tags:trinity seven op opening -_kuro_yuki_- foxygrandpa mun bor juris -gidz- - g i d z - _meep_
BeatmapID:1182414
BeatmapSetID:557736

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4.2
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.9
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"lilith.png",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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88141,291.26213592233,4,2,1,60,1,0


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xLolicore-

636 posts

Joined June 2014

Topic Starter

xLolicore- 2017-01-19T14:05:32+00:00

KuranteMelodii wrote:

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Ultima Fox 2017-01-19T19:09:35+00:00

[gidz]

00:16:041 (1) - why the random spinner here, it doesnt sound like any different from before to me ._.

[hard]

00:08:948 (1,2) - theres a bunch of other stacks that are 1/2, but this one is 1/1 so maybe try something else here
00:20:474 (5) - tRIGGERED
00:28:898 (1,2,3,1) - Kinda the same thing as the stacks, same distance but very different time intervals. Easy fix for this one though, because all you have to do is move the last (1) a littel further away dddddd

[- kuro yuki -]

00:15:302 (3,1) - I dont want to be that guy, but maybe you could try stacking these
00:16:928 (4,2) - Move (2) a little further away because the overlap looks a little ugly
00:42:937 (7,1) - Maybe make this a triplet because of the drums

[meep]

it seems like sounds and such in some places are oddly ignored, like 00:15:302 (6) where theres a vocal and a guitar sound but you have a long slider over it. just something I noticed
01:04:366 (9) - in other places this is a 1/4 beat after the long slider, but here its 1/2. maybe just stack this on (1)?

[foxygrandma]

00:04:515 (2,3,4,5,1) - what the fUCK
00:13:665 (1) - why is this inaudible what
00:20:770 (1,1) - nothing in between ?
00:32:888 (1,1) - im like 60% sure thats not allowed (ok maybe 50)
owaityournotfinishedoops

[bor]

00:07:766 (5,6,7) - this linear jump included with the increased spacing between 6 and 7 is super awkward, and i highly recommend changing it to some sort of angle
00:21:952 (8) - Remove this circle, there's no sound here
00:22:100 (9) - maybe a nc here to emphasize sound + change in sv
00:32:445 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe just make these regular jumps because these seem awkward

[mun]

00:14:563 (5) - this looks a little weird, maybe make just an even curve (still s shape tho)
01:02:445 (2,4) - Make these not overlap each other ddddddd

[krt]

nothing really stood out ddddddd

[loli's uncompressed fury oif a raging japanese goddd]

00:40:573 (6,1) - may b just pick either angled or curved if your gonna do this
01:01:410 (2) - theres nothing really calling for a stream type thing here. in fact, you shoulud probably move 01:01:484 (1) back so it lines up with the sound on the white tick, and also adjust 01:01:115 (1) so it lands on the red tick
01:27:116 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - tahts actually probably the easiest ending out of all the difficulties LOL

gl
kbye

anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-01-19T21:48:58+00:00

Ultima Fox wrote:
[bor]
00:07:766 (5,6,7) - this linear jump included with the increased spacing between 6 and 7 is super awkward, and i highly recommend changing it to some sort of angle the "awkward" you refer to is just different kind of emphasis
00:21:952 (8) - Remove this circle, there's no sound here I use this for rhythm simplification also I do more like this throughout the map.
00:22:100 (9) - maybe a nc here to emphasize sound + change in sv my NC is every two measure (not counting small break)
00:32:445 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe just make these regular jumps because these seem awkward the "awkward" you refer to is just different kind of emphasis
gl
kbye

ty for mod

also lolicore pls change my combo colors back to what they were because the colors participate to my design, we can have different colors in the set.

Combo1: 52,162,220
Combo2 : 187,49,98

xLolicore-

636 posts

Joined June 2014

Topic Starter

xLolicore- 2017-01-20T01:01:09+00:00

Ultima Fox wrote:
[hard]
00:08:948 (1,2) - theres a bunch of other stacks that are 1/2, but this one is 1/1 so maybe try something else here why only this one tho
00:20:474 (5) - tRIGGERED ha
00:28:898 (1,2,3,1) - Kinda the same thing as the stacks, same distance but very different time intervals. Easy fix for this one though, because all you have to do is move the last (1) a littel further away dddddd applied

[loli's uncompressed fury oif a raging japanese goddd]
00:40:573 (6,1) - may b just pick either angled or curved if your gonna do this not sure what you mean but if that helps I changed 6 to an angled slider
01:01:410 (2) - theres nothing really calling for a stream type thing here. in fact, you shoulud probably move 01:01:484 (1) back so it lines up with the sound on the white tick, and also adjust 01:01:115 (1) so it lands on the red tick I'll leave it as it is for now, wanted to make that part a little harder by adding that
01:27:116 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - tahts actually probably the easiest ending out of all the difficulties LOL o shit you're right

gl
kbye

ty for mod

Mun

468 posts

Joined July 2015

Mun 2017-01-20T01:08:38+00:00

Ultima Fox wrote:
[mun]
00:14:563 (5) - this looks a little weird, maybe make just an even curve (still s shape tho)
01:02:445 (2,4) - Make these not overlap each other ddddddd

gl
kbye

applied all

ok dad

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conTime

101 posts

Joined June 2014

conTime 2017-01-20T01:37:10+00:00

Ultima Fox wrote:
[- kuro yuki -]
00:15:302 (3,1) - I dont want to be that guy, but maybe you could try stacking these
00:16:928 (4,2) - Move (2) a little further away because the overlap looks a little ugly
00:42:937 (7,1) - Maybe make this a triplet because of the drums

gl
kbye

All Fixed
Thanks for the mod

Mun

468 posts

Joined July 2015

Mun 2017-01-20T02:09:36+00:00

GIDZ's Easy

00:06:584 (1) - This slider is rhythmically flawed.
For the entire song up to here, you are mapping to drums which do continue quite consistently through this part. However, you ignore this and map an extremely long slider to follow the vocals. The problem here is that you are filtering out an important part of the song without much of a reason to do so. On top of this, the same sort of long held note that completely disregards the drums that continue during this section. One might call this 'consistently inconsistent.' More on this in the next point.
00:16:041 (1) - nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo the only reason that you put this here is because you couldn't put down the long slider because the timing does not accommodate it. You said this yourself in discord. Why would you ignore a perfectly mappable, perceptible sound (see: Halcyon) in favor of one that seems... in the background for the rest of the map? On top of that, if the timing itself does not accommodate what you want to map, why the hell are you trying to map it in the first place?
00:19:588 (4,5,1) - You can get away with spacing out 00:20:770 (1) - a little bit more to make the great blanket that you set yourself up for here. Nowhere in ranking criteria does it state that spacing/SV in easy diffs has to be exactly consistent, so minute changes here to help fit the song are acceptable and fully playable.
00:23:134 - To further reinforce my earlier tirade on you mapping vocals where you shouldn't, you place a break here. I'd explore the thought that perhaps you left it blank because of the lack of the drums? In which case, why would you have mapped vocals in favor of drums earlier in the song? It's not just unnecessary and unsupported by the song, but also inconsistent.
00:37:912 (4,1) - blanket is gya, and 00:37:321 (3,4,1) - triangle is even more gya. Think of this part less as a line and more as a shape, and it will look more like a cohesive solid, rather than like water that fills the space it is in
00:40:277 (4,1) - unnecessary, rather messy overlap
00:51:952 - these are super strong drums, why not put a slider from here to 00:52:395 - ?
00:59:785 (1,2,3) - unusual timing spacing like 6/4 is challenging for newer players to read. I suggest making 00:59:785 (1) - not repeat and making the end of that to 01:01:115 (2) - a slider, too
01:01:558 (3,1) - messy overlap again, not necessarily an issue
Overall: Looks solid, has a couple of important conceptual errors.

im so hard rn

00:16:928 (2,1) - Placements like these seem slightly disconcerting to me. I would recommend offsetting that circle just a tiny bit so that players can quickly and easily tell the difference between a 2/4 stack and a 4/4 stack. As it stands, this sort of stuff makes it likely harder for new players to read something like 00:18:394 (1,2,4,1) -
00:43:085 (5,1) - hard players can do triples tho
00:43:233 (1,2) - messy overlap
00:53:134 (2) - Halcyon slider is mapped to nothing
01:10:425 (1,2) - having 2 different shapes of slider here is fine, but at least make them work together. As it stands, their spacing, shapes, and angles make them seem completely disassociated from each other, almost random.
01:12:051 (3,1) - messy overlap
01:13:372 (3,4,5) - spacing is somewhat inconsistent here and forms a rather odd looking shape. Try blanketing 01:13:664 (4,1) -
01:19:291 (3,1) - messy overlap
Overall: Loli mapping Hard diffs LUL

im not hard for kuro Y though

00:07:766 (1) - this is a halcyon circle, it is mapped to a sound that is practically imperceptible. It is also inconsistent, given you had just mapped this rhythm correctly at 00:06:879 (2,3,4,5) - less than a second earlier
00:13:677 (1,2,3) - if you are going to do this sort of slider pattern, at least make your visual distance consistent.
00:15:302 (3,4,5,1) - making this entire pattern closer to an equilateral triangle will make it look much less flimsy than it does here.
00:16:928 (4,2) - messy overlap
00:37:174 (4,5) - You used 00:36:139 (1) - as a curve before, and these 2 sliders now look a bit out of place. Try to make your sliders work together through blanketing, symmetry, parallelism, and the use of different shapes (monstrata is good at this with a certain polygon).
00:42:494 (6) - Halcyon slider again, it starts on nothing, ignores an important beat, and ends on a less important beat
00:42:937 (7,1) - 1) blanket 2) hard players can into triple
00:44:267 (5,6,8) - this entire part looks messy for a few reasons. Most of that is that 00:45:006 (8) - is overlapping with a lot of stuff it shouldn't be overlapping with. Try making it a bit more like this:

SPOILER

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7101338

00:51:509 (1,1,2) - Why not space these out more? they are plenty strong beats, and this just looks underdone and possibly misreadable.
01:00:671 (1,1,2) - This could make another triangular pattern, something like this

SPOILER

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7101352

01:04:514 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing the exact same timing differently is... unusual. Besides, you use this sort of stacking on a lot of 4/4 gaps, and using it on 2/4 is bound to be misread.
01:06:139 (7,8) - hard players can into triple
01:07:469 (3,4,5) - same issue with the making of polygonal patterns.
01:11:016 (5,6) - this is just messy looking. Make these 2 sliders have at least 1 side parallel, and give them consistent visual distance with 01:10:425 (3) -
01:13:079 - what's up with ignoring the strong kick drum here? Makes no sense.
Overall: looks messy, worse rhythmic issues than Halcyon.

meepmeep

00:08:948 (9,1) - With the sort of spacing you do at 00:08:357 (6,7) - this could easily be mistaken for a 2/4 jump instead of 4/4.
00:16:041 (1) - On earlier 2/4 repeats similar to this, you use a much softer curve. Why is it sharper here?
00:29:046 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing changes here are a bit extreme. Instead of cutting it in half entirely each time, why not use DS and bring it down by 0.3 or so each time?
00:36:730 (2,3) - if you're going to overlap, do so with thought put into it. This seems messy.
Overall: One of the best diffs on this set. Few problems.

bor's Insane

Hoo boy.
00:04:219 (1) - From all that I've learned in the past few months, sliders with sharp anchors like this look best when the anchor is about 1/3 of the way through the slider, rather than right at the start like you did. Try it and keep it in mind. It's stylistic, but I think it's helpful. And for the love of God, when you have a distinct slider shape like this, use the exact same one more than twice. Stuff like 00:11:313 (1,5) - looks horribly inconsistent when you don't.
00:07:175 (3) - Halcyon sliderhead is mapped to nothing and end is mapped to strong beat
00:21:952 (8) - Halcyon circles add to streams without there actually being a note there in the music
00:38:208 (9) - Sliders ideally start on stronger beats and end on beats of equal or lesser strength.
01:26:970 (8) - see Halcyon
Overall: Aesthetically this map is an absolute disaster. If you were going for that, I commend you, but if not, try to at least use slider shapes that are both consistent and not abrasive.

Mooon

remap all kds pls

too lazy to mod any more than that, will do it later

Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Foxy Grandpa 2017-01-20T02:15:28+00:00

Ultima Fox wrote:
[foxygrandma]
00:04:515 (2,3,4,5,1) - what the fUCK the "awkward" you refer to is just different kind of emphasis
00:13:665 (1) - why is this inaudible what oh fuck im retarded
00:20:770 (1,1) - nothing in between ? changed i think
00:32:888 (1,1) - im like 60% sure thats not allowed (ok maybe 50) wait y what
owaityournotfinishedoops

gl
kbye

thank
(not the stale meme)

diff desu

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@loli i added a little more so yea

xLolicore-

636 posts

Joined June 2014

Topic Starter

xLolicore- 2017-01-20T03:34:03+00:00

Mun wrote:
im so hard rn
00:16:928 (2,1) - Placements like these seem slightly disconcerting to me. I would recommend offsetting that circle just a tiny bit so that players can quickly and easily tell the difference between a 2/4 stack and a 4/4 stack. As it stands, this sort of stuff makes it likely harder for new players to read something like 00:18:394 (1,2,4,1) - fixed
00:43:085 (5,1) - hard players can do triples tho true
00:43:233 (1,2) - messy overlap uhhh idk about this one, a lot of overlaps were used and i feel that this is one of those I should keep but i do admit the straight slider (the 2) made it look messy so I changed the slider
00:53:134 (2) - Halcyon slider is mapped to nothing i merely used HabiHolic's hard guest difficulty as reference to this kiai, i like it myself so far so I'll keep it at that for now
01:10:425 (1,2) - having 2 different shapes of slider here is fine, but at least make them work together. As it stands, their spacing, shapes, and angles make them seem completely disassociated from each other, almost random. not sure if this'll work but I changed the slider, also I was following the pitch changes in vocals for the spacing between sliders
01:12:051 (3,1) - messy overlap true
01:13:372 (3,4,5) - spacing is somewhat inconsistent here and forms a rather odd looking shape. Try blanketing 01:13:664 (4,1) - you're right, I noticed the inconsistency - fixed
01:19:291 (3,1) - messy overlap moved the slider a bit further up if that helps
Overall: Loli mapping Hard diffs LUL LUL

ty for mod

xLolicore-

636 posts

Joined June 2014

Topic Starter

xLolicore- 2017-01-20T03:43:47+00:00

gonna post again

Foxy's Insane

m8 lo

~~kds pls~~ o wait

conTime

101 posts

Joined June 2014

conTime 2017-01-20T04:23:12+00:00

Mun wrote:
im not hard for kuro Y though
00:07:766 (1) - this is a halcyon circle, it is mapped to a sound that is practically imperceptible. It is also inconsistent, given you had just mapped this rhythm correctly at 00:06:879 (2,3,4,5) - less than a second earlier
00:13:677 (1,2,3) - if you are going to do this sort of slider pattern, at least make your visual distance consistent.
00:15:302 (3,4,5,1) - making this entire pattern closer to an equilateral triangle will make it look much less flimsy than it does here.
00:16:928 (4,2) - messy overlap
00:37:174 (4,5) - You used 00:36:139 (1) - as a curve before, and these 2 sliders now look a bit out of place. Try to make your sliders work together through blanketing, symmetry, parallelism, and the use of different shapes (monstrata is good at this with a certain polygon).
00:42:494 (6) - Halcyon slider again, it starts on nothing, ignores an important beat, and ends on a less important beat
00:42:937 (7,1) - 1) blanket 2) hard players can into triple
00:44:267 (5,6,8) - this entire part looks messy for a few reasons. Most of that is that 00:45:006 (8) - is overlapping with a lot of stuff it shouldn't be overlapping with. Try making it a bit more like this:
SPOILER
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7101338
00:51:509 (1,1,2) - Why not space these out more? they are plenty strong beats, and this just looks underdone and possibly misreadable.
01:00:671 (1,1,2) - This could make another triangular pattern, something like this
SPOILER
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7101352
01:04:514 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing the exact same timing differently is... unusual. Besides, you use this sort of stacking on a lot of 4/4 gaps, and using it on 2/4 is bound to be misread.
01:06:139 (7,8) - hard players can into triple
01:07:469 (3,4,5) - same issue with the making of polygonal patterns.
01:11:016 (5,6) - this is just messy looking. Make these 2 sliders have at least 1 side parallel, and give them consistent visual distance with 01:10:425 (3) -
01:13:079 - what's up with ignoring the strong kick drum here? Makes no sense.
Overall: looks messy, worse rhythmic issues than Halcyon.

Thanks for mod
I'm just being a retard who doesn't know how to map Hard
So it still have somel problems there
:^(

GIDZ

1,002 posts

Joined January 2013

GIDZ 2017-01-21T15:46:53+00:00

Mun wrote:
GIDZ's Easy
00:06:584 (1) - This slider is rhythmically flawed.
For the entire song up to here, you are mapping to drums which do continue quite consistently through this part. However, you ignore this and map an extremely long slider to follow the vocals. The problem here is that you are filtering out an important part of the song without much of a reason to do so. On top of this, the same sort of long held note that completely disregards the drums that continue during this section. One might call this 'consistently inconsistent.' More on this in the next point. I want a bit of variety on my map, also I dun want the rhythm to be so dense when u can clearly hear the vocals being held imo. I cant start slider at 00:06:436 - cuz 1/2 rhythm in Easy diff is meh; furthermore, downbeat at 00:06:584 - is where an important sound is thus I empasized that sound instead to open up the vocal drag that I am trying to follow. 00:07:766 - is where the vocal changes to a lower tone so thats why I used reverse arrow there. 00:08:948 - Crash from the drums to lead the rhythm back into following drums.

00:16:041 (1) - nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo the only reason that you put this here is because you couldn't put down the long slider because the timing does not accommodate it. You said this yourself in discord. Why would you ignore a perfectly mappable, perceptible sound (see: Halcyon) in favor of one that seems... in the background for the rest of the map? On top of that, if the timing itself does not accommodate what you want to map, why the hell are you trying to map it in the first place? Im trying to map this in the first place to the vocals like the prev section, but then I dun get why there is an extra timing point around here when its exactly the same as the last part rhythm wise. There are 3 different red timing points here. x.xChanged pattern.

00:19:588 (4,5,1) - You can get away with spacing out 00:20:770 (1) - a little bit more to make the great blanket that you set yourself up for here. Nowhere in ranking criteria does it state that spacing/SV in easy diffs has to be exactly consistent, so minute changes here to help fit the song are acceptable and fully playable.

00:23:134 - To further reinforce my earlier tirade on you mapping vocals where you shouldn't, you place a break here. I'd explore the thought that perhaps you left it blank because of the lack of the drums? In which case, why would you have mapped vocals in favor of drums earlier in the song? It's not just unnecessary and unsupported by the song, but also inconsistent.This is because the vocals in this section is so dense, which is not good for the sake of Easy diff. Furthermore, the section here is very calm thus I implemented a break.

00:37:912 (4,1) - blanket is gya, and 00:37:321 (3,4,1) - triangle is even more gya. Think of this part less as a line and more as a shape, and it will look more like a cohesive solid, rather than like water that fills the space it is in Fixed blanket

00:40:277 (4,1) - unnecessary, rather messy overlapo these are intentional cuz 00:40:868 (1,3) - follow guitar sounds so that note arrangements at 00:40:277 (4,1) - are intententional to let players feel that they are following smth else in the music while playing. Also overlapping slider bodies are fine lol.

00:51:952 - these are super strong drums, why not put a slider from here to 00:52:395 - ? Ranking criteria states you must leave 4 beats before the next note after a spinner.

00:59:785 (1,2,3) - unusual timing spacing like 6/4 is challenging for newer players to read. I suggest making 00:59:785 (1) - not repeat and making the end of that to 01:01:115 (2) - a slider, too Changed pattern and everything after that spaced properly.
01:01:558 (3,1) - messy overlap again, not necessarily an issue
Overall: Looks solid, has a couple of important conceptual errors.

tks for mod

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anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-01-22T01:44:17+00:00

eLy

Mun wrote:
Hoo boy.
00:04:219 (1) - From all that I've learned in the past few months, sliders with sharp anchors like this look best when the anchor is about 1/3 of the way through the slider, rather than right at the start like you did. Try it and keep it in mind. It's stylistic, but I think it's helpful. And for the love of God, when you have a distinct slider shape like this, use the exact same one more than twice. disagreed.
Stuff like 00:11:313 (1,5) - looks horribly inconsistent when you don't.
00:07:175 (3) - Halcyon sliderhead is mapped to nothing and end is mapped to strong beat head is mapped to drum noise, end is on a beat that way I'm not mapping to nothing are you high?
00:21:952 (8) - Halcyon circles add to streams without there actually being a note there in the music rhythm simplification so easier to read for players who can't read 3/4 gaps of time when it looks like 1/2
00:38:208 (9) - Sliders ideally start on stronger beats and end on beats of equal or lesser strength. how is this a problem, no understand
01:26:970 (8) - see Halcyon
Overall: Aesthetically this map is an absolute disaster. If you were going for that, I commend you, but if not, try to at least use slider shapes that are both consistent and not abrasive.overall disagreed, thanks for the really constructive mod

since you are so busy looking at another map for reference, maybe look at the one you are trying to mod

update

http://puu.sh/tv5GX/6210a7d9ef.osu

Last edited by anna apple 2017-01-22T02:34:22+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Ozato Fumika

Beatmap Nominator

3,379 posts

Joined July 2013

Ozato Fumika 2017-01-22T01:52:34+00:00

Mun wrote:
.

why are you so rude

I just watched your map

you're in no position to talk smack

your rhythm is terrible

your placements are terrible

your flow is terrible

Last edited by Ozato Fumika 2017-01-22T01:59:13+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2017-01-22T01:58:38+00:00

heyhey guys let's all follow the mapping Code of Conduct and all be happy friends here

xLolicore-

636 posts

Joined June 2014

Topic Starter

xLolicore- 2017-01-22T01:59:33+00:00

fuk im so dead
can shit not happen pls

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Kibbleru wrote:
heyhey guys let's all follow the mapping Code of Conduct and all be happy friends here

Mun

468 posts

Joined July 2015

Mun 2017-01-22T02:32:27+00:00

Momoka wrote:
Mun wrote:
.
why are you so rude

I just watched your map

you're in no position to talk smack

your rhythm is terrible

your placements are terrible

your flow is terrible

sorry i offended! i did not mean to be the mean, i hope i did not upset you with words not directed toward you i will never mod again until i have elite mapper

anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-01-24T23:55:52+00:00

tbh im gay

xChorse

765 posts

Joined December 2012

xChorse 2017-01-26T20:18:53+00:00

hey whats up guys

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-Atri- 2017-02-02T03:01:47+00:00

Tiny update

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Rizen

1,662 posts

Joined August 2013

Rizen 2017-02-02T10:49:36+00:00

you have a couple of backgrounds that can be converted to .jpg to save space since .png takes up a shitton of space compared to jpg. namely; "akio and mira", "levi", "lilith"
is the "levi" background safe? cos her butt is rather exposed
why no video? :c
mentioned in irc but the hitsounding isn't the best... the current finish hitsound for cymbal crashes in the music isn't very appropriate as it lacks the energy of a cymbal crash. further changes in hitsounding would be best so these cymbal crashes can be highlighted by the hitsounding, enhancing the mapset (talking about custom soft-hitfinish1 of course)
xChorse's Insane or doggo's Insane?

GIDZ's Easy

00:32:592 (1,2) - these finishes sound a bit too intense for this part of the music. The soft-hitfinish custom hitsounds sounds better since it's softer, just like in the music
00:41:755 (2,3) - I know the DS in this song is already tiny, but parts that have DS like this lack the "gap" between the objects and it looks iffy. just minor aesthetic issues ;_; (same at 00:44:415 (3,4) - )
00:50:326 (1) - don't find the finish hitsound here appropriate since there are no cymbals in the music
01:27:116 (2,3,4,5,6) - mmmm i dunno but this pattern looks rather lackluster for the song ending. Perhaps make a pattern out of it like this or even a slight rearrangement like this

Hard

00:07:027 (1) - , 00:11:754 (1,1,1) - , 00:16:484 (1) - these NCs here are rather excessive imo (as NCing directly affects the gameplay [replenishes the HP drain bar too much])
00:22:691 (2) - perhaps move this a bit closer to 00:23:134 (1) - and further away from 00:22:100 (1) - . imo the spacing on either side of slider 2 is too similar to each other and can be misread as rhythmically equally spaced
00:25:499 (2,3) - is it possible to space slider 3 further away from slider 2? currently the spacing is the same as 00:25:055 (1,2) - which is 1/2 spaced apart but 00:25:499 (2,3) - is 1/1 spaced apart. It can cause read issues
00:29:637 (3,1) - ^ try moving circle 1 further away from slider 3 like to somewhere like x:377 y:340
00:33:184 (2) - same thing I said about excessive NC'ing
00:34:809 (1) - perhaps move this slider a little bit more away from previous slider 2. Similar to what you did at 00:38:947 (2,1) -
00:35:548 (3,4,5) - I think it'll work better here if it's circle circle slider to match up with the guitar. same at 00:35:548 (3,4,5) -
00:40:868 (1,2,3,4) - these sliders are a bit underwhelming imo (plain 1/1 sliders ;_;). can try mixing it up by making slider 2 a 1/2 repeat slider and slider 4 a 1/2 slider and circle. This will follow the drums better imo
00:44:120 - consider adding a circle here for the snare drums. I know that you are following vocals with these sliders, but I prefer if you keep the momentum of the rhythm with the song. It'll also tie along with 00:48:849 (3) - well
00:51:509 (1,2) - consider silencing these slider ends as there are no audible beats on the ticks the sldier ends land on
01:20:178 (2,3) - spacing too far imo (looks like the largest spacing in the entire diff but not at the highest intensity of the song). Could try something like ctrl+g 01:20:178 (2) -

kuro Y's Hard

00:11:239 (10) - I think this note is overmapped... can't hear anything in the music to support this note at this tick
00:19:438 (1) - the problem with this repeat slider is that the slider end is literally unsnappable. the bpm change in the middle of the repeat slider changes the duration of each slider slide (durations of start to middle and middle to end are different). I recommend making the 1/1 repeat slider just a 1/1 slider and adding a 1/2 slider starting at 00:19:883 - . This will fix the snap error
00:20:474 (3) - a 1/2 slider then circle will fit better imo, it'll highlight the cymbals in the music at 00:20:770 - better
00:33:775 (1,2) - anyway to eliminate this overlap? it doesn't look good aesthetically..
00:42:937 (7,8,9,1) - the triplet starts at 00:43:085 (9) - not at 00:42:937 (7) - according to the drums in the music
00:50:105 (1) - is it possible to end this spinner on the white tick? to increase spinner recovery time
00:51:952 (1) - this NC seems rather excessive imo
00:52:691 (1,2,3) - just wanted to point out that your DSing in the difficulty has been rather strict and this is only one of a few spots where you differ from the constant DS placement. perhaps you can make it constant as you have done at 00:57:420 (1,2,3) -
01:00:228 (1,1,1) - again, NC'ing is rather excessive here x_x
01:00:671 (1,1) - perhaps you can space these out a bit so that there is the same amount of slider border space between all 4 sliders. it'll look nicer imo
01:06:361 (9) - no sound in the music where this circle is currently placed (triplet is unfitting). would be better suited at 01:06:213 - since there is a drum sound in the music here

Meep's Hyper

00:09:539 (3,5) - why no stack? (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ
00:14:268 (3) - try 1/2 slider then circle, as you have done at 00:04:810 (4,5) - . It will express the vocals/guitar better imo
00:18:692 (1) - I would make this a 1/2 slider instead of an extended 3/4 slider imo. The vocals stop getting held at the red tick. also there is percussion present on that red tick
00:25:499 (1) - perhaps add whistles to both ends for the piano sounds. if so, remove whistle from 00:28:454 (2) - due to absence of piano sounds, and add to 00:29:046 (1) -
00:42:642 (7) - I don't find this extended slider appropriate as there is clear drum sounds on the red tick before the current blue tick
00:55:055 (1,2) - shouldn't these be stacked to follow your theme you have going at 01:04:514 (1,2) - , 01:06:583 (9,1) - , etc. ?
01:16:336 (1) - the vocals here end on the red tick so I think it would be best to not make this slider and extended slider

3 hours later... why am I so damn slow haha..

good luck!

xChorse

765 posts

Joined December 2012

xChorse 2017-02-02T11:35:12+00:00

Rizen wrote:
xChorse's Insane or doggo's Insane?

~~this is the real question~~ we have come to the conclusion to use xchorse because who is doggo

Also smol upd8

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celerih

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celerih 2017-02-05T03:21:45+00:00

Checked Mun's diff and was surprised at the quality. Don't mind me just bein' brutally honest

[Mun's Extra]
00:03:480 (1) - This slider looks really bad, the place at which the slider curves is way to late, and that throws off completely how it looks.
00:06:436 (3) - You have no reason to have a kickslider here. It's on nothing and this overmapping doesn't help the map at all. It's quite jarring
00:14:563 (5,1) - omg this hurt to see. Firstly you have to understand extended sliders + circle are used for emphasis on the ending note where the circle is. On the note that you are emphasizing there is nothing. You are putting more emphasis on a note that isn't mapped to anything. There should be a circle on 00:14:563 - and a 1/1 slider from 00:14:711 - to 00:15:007 -
00:15:450 (6,8) - Overlap here is ugly
00:17:510 (2) - Have the slider be at the same angle so it's in a straight line with the circle before it. That's just basic aesthetics. aka an easy
00:17:797 (1) - Unsnapped
00:21:213 (2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Over the entire map, most SV changes don't make sense but here it's the most apparent. The spacing and the slider length here show that you'd have different lengths between the notes, but it's all 1/4. This super confusing for no reason, and just makes the map even less fun to play.
00:21:656 (3,4,5,6) - The song isn't made to have double streams like this. It's just there for nothing
00:25:055 (1,2,3) - For the entire song, you map to the instruments, but here you start doing vocals. You might try and justify this by saying this section is pretty different from the rest of the map. I just see bad consistency in your mapping
00:26:090 (2,4) - Separate these more
00:26:238 (3,1) - Fixu Blanketo
00:23:134 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - In addition the entire slow sections has uncalled for spacing changes
00:28:898 (4) - This is an example of why only sticking to the instruments would help. This kickslider isn't on anything. The start of the vocal is bague
00:33:775 (1) - To make things more interesting you could increase spacing here
00:36:139 (1) - no
00:42:346 (1) - Remove NC here
00:42:789 (3,4,5,6,1) - Pattern here is in the zone of linear and angular enough to both look bad and play bad. Lower 00:43:085 (5,6,1) - and ctrl-j + -90 degree rotate 00:43:233 (1) -
00:43:676 (3,4) - reallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy???? This is so against everything you've done in the map. Yes the vocals are fine this way but this goes against the drums which reminder you're following for the whole map. And this comes back here 00:46:041 (3,4) -
00:47:519 (8) - Lower this note so it crosses like this
00:47:962 (1,2,3) - These three should be all equally spaced. It looks messy this way
00:48:849 (4,5) - Not only is this blanket way to close, but it's off
00:49:587 (1) - Why the SV change here?
00:53:134 - I know there aren't sounds here with the instrumentals so you didn't map it (I see you're back to mapping them great consistency) but an overlap in a 1/1 gap indicates no sounds, a stop. And that doesn't happen here.
00:55:055 (1,2,3) - Why is the SV going down here? The drums on 00:55:647 - 00:55:794 - are really important, so much that a slider isn't appropriate, let alone a 0.60x SV one
00:56:829 (3,1) - Once again you're doing an inversely proportional emphasis and I still don't know why.
00:57:420 (1) - Off screen, this appears on AiMod come on you should be able to find this yourself. Is pressing ctrl-shift-a too much work?
01:09:243 (6,9) - Overlap
01:09:538 (7,8,9) - Can you see how this would be very obnoxious to play? pls
01:18:996 (2,4) - Line these up properly
01:25:794 (1) - More pointless overmapping on 01:25:868 - (Wasn't overmapping one of your biggest issues with Halcyon :thinking)
01:29:160 (8) - Why is the spacing here so low? It's 1.36x DS on the note before, but the very strong end note is on 0.30x DS. You have this entire buildup with the SV but then you completely loose it with the super jarring spacing

This was what I got on my first go through the map. After gong back I noticed you seem to follow the instruments rhythmically, but you use the vocals as a way to determine emphasis. That's a terrible idea, as it is so confusing what you're trying to map. You should do everything to try and avoid this (also fix the inconsistencies in what you map)

Mun

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Mun 2017-02-05T03:31:05+00:00

celerih wrote:
Checked Mun's diff and was surprised at the quality. Don't mind me just bein' brutally honest

will remap, thanks

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