LunaticSounds - Dement ~After Legend~ [OsuMania]

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Asherz007 wrote:

Snap discrepancies forcing me to pop for now, apologies about that.

Kinda really bothers me how evening's difficulty uses completely different hitsounding... whatever. I like the hitsounds on EX better lol

o!m needs more truly hard charts anyway, so it's not like this would be a veto or anything.

I'll start with where the issue lies and then work my way backwards.

Nice beegees tho

1|2|3|4

Would buff HP to 8. (based on whether the SHD odhp changes but whatever lol)
ok buffed

  1. 00:16:986 (16986|0,17129|0,18700|3,18843|3,18986|0,19129|0) - not quite sure of the sudden swap to using these short minijacks here. It's a nice idea, but it doesn't appear to be used consistently. Ideally, you either make all of the 1/2 consecutive jumps like this or not at all (would choose the first option myself). Ultimately up to you though.
    at this part piano sounds and drum sounds are together. i tried to catch both, and i think jacks are quite good to accent countinuos 1/2 sounds.
    but i fixed some arrangement to clear this intent.

  2. 00:36:698 (36698|2,36698|3) - missing hitsounds
    added
  3. 00:37:413 (37413|2,37413|1,37555|1,37555|2) - Not sure why it's a double minijack here, since there's a slight change between the first and second double. Could go for something like [23][24][134] here (and properly layering the crash).
    cuz these sounds are snare drum sounds and i intended. maybe that slight difference is other sounds with this that are 1/4.
  4. 00:47:126 (47126|0,47126|2,47126|3) - Wait, how come there's a sudden switch to triples here? I mean as an idea it's not an issue, it's more the problem that you aren't able to consistency layer them as triples given that this is an HD.
    this song part i didn put LN so i decided to give 3 notes snare drum sounds to accent these. i think assigning number of notes to the sound dosen matter if we keep consistancy in each part, i mean don need to keep that in whole chart. its on mapper's expression what he intended.
    but anyway i fixed some latter part to clear more these 3notes.
  5. 00:53:982 - hitsounds missing?
    added
  6. 01:26:265 (86265|3,86551|0) - Struggling to figure out what these are mapped to, given 01:25:694 (85694|3,85836|0).
    oh, that LN is the latter of two 1/2 piano sounds. but i make it wrong so i fixed. thx.


Other than that it's pretty neatly constructed. Like it.


Took a little while, but there you go.
Reminder that this is an objective pop; issues do need to be addressed.

Call me back whenever everyone's done. (hopefully I haven't died by then lol)
Thx for mod :)
Asherz007
Still a remaining concern about those hitsounds being a little too quiet on EZ, HD and SHD. They need to be audible over the audio, which is why I suggested the volume edits. I'll check hitsounds once I get clarification on this, just in case something changes.

[Timing]
Something I overlooked first time around. Any particular reason for the bpm being 210.02 rather than 210?

Also, could you put another red line at 00:01:130? (Assuming offset is not changing, might be within a few ms otherwise) The first measure is a lead-in measure (which only needs a red line because of the SVs) and this point is the start of the song. (Something about nightcore mod as well)

[EZ]
01:22:123 (82123|1,83122|2) - p sure I said something about making both of them 1/2 shorter rather than just one lol

Rest of the set looks fine to me, so call me back once you've finished sorting this little bit out.
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Vampir

Asherz007 wrote:

Still a remaining concern about those hitsounds being a little too quiet on EZ, HD and SHD. They need to be audible over the audio, which is why I suggested the volume edits. I'll check hitsounds once I get clarification on this, just in case something changes.

[Timing]
Something I overlooked first time around. Any particular reason for the bpm being 210.02 rather than 210?

Also, could you put another red line at 00:01:130? (Assuming offset is not changing, might be within a few ms otherwise) The first measure is a lead-in measure (which only needs a red line because of the SVs) and this point is the start of the song. (Something about nightcore mod as well)

[EZ]
01:22:123 (82123|1,83122|2) - p sure I said something about making both of them 1/2 shorter rather than just one lol

Rest of the set looks fine to me, so call me back once you've finished sorting this little bit out.
I aksed a lot of people for BPM and all people said 210.02 is also fine, (I made a mistake at first actually, and ya 210 is also fine ya), and you know, this is really hard to fix all of SVs in Evening's diff when BPM changes, so I'll keep this BPM

Fixed my hitsound, and sorry, I misunderstood your suggestion on easy, fixed
Sinnoh
This is a non-negotiable issue regardless of anyone's opinion. The timing either gets changed to 210 bpm to match the mp3, or this set will never get ranked. The change in bpm is enough to make the difference between 300s and 200s by the end.



If you really can't change this, there's a stupid alternate solution. If you slow down the mp3 file by 0.9999048% then the song will be 210.02 bpm. I would never suggest doing this normally, but there are a lot of green lines so I'd consider it an option.
Beomsan

Sinnoh wrote:

If you really can't change this, there's a stupid alternate solution. If you slow down the mp3 file by 0.9999048%
holy fck
eyes
I had the same situation with wrong bpm and many svs on my diff, I found a resolve.
Resnapping notes is easy, so you can do it manually, but svs is too long work
so you can convert evening diff with rate changer (which includes sv shifting function) and change the speed for 210/210,02=0.999904771 sooo, when you did it note-objects will be time-offed so just forget about notes, just copy all svs from this diff and they should fit for 210 bpm.

I know my english is bad, please ask me if you don't understand something
did it myself

I tried this way and here it is.
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Some SVs can be off for 1-2 ms but I think it won't be noticeable
Topic Starter
Vampir

Sinnoh wrote:

This is a non-negotiable issue regardless of anyone's opinion. The timing either gets changed to 210 bpm to match the mp3, or this set will never get ranked. The change in bpm is enough to make the difference between 300s and 200s by the end.



If you really can't change this, there's a stupid alternate solution. If you slow down the mp3 file by 0.9999048% then the song will be 210.02 bpm. I would never suggest doing this normally, but there are a lot of green lines so I'd consider it an option.
Thanks xD
Topic Starter
Vampir

eyes wrote:

I had the same situation with wrong bpm and many svs on my diff, I found a resolve.
Resnapping notes is easy, so you can do it manually, but svs is too long work
so you can convert evening diff with rate changer (which includes sv shifting function) and change the speed for 210/210,02=0.999904771 sooo, when you did it note-objects will be time-offed so just forget about notes, just copy all svs from this diff and they should fit for 210 bpm.

I know my english is bad, please ask me if you don't understand something
Thank you for the help!

I will try it.
Beomsan

eyes wrote:

 
hoyl fuk
Asherz007
Timing feels a lot better, especially towards the end lol

Just gonna get confirmation from Evening that the changes to the SVs are ok before I finally move this on. (They seem ever so slightly... different at the end? Probably just me, but I want to check.)

Apart from that, just the hitsounds. I don't really see any change happening to the three diffs I mentioned having quiet hitsounds. Ah well, up to you. In any case, the rest of it appears fine, just one thing:

Sora's NM: Any particular reason why the first timing point has 50% volume rather than 30%?

After that, should be good to go, fingers crossed...
-SoraGami-
Ohh right.. dunno what happened there
Maybe i messed up some things

Thanks Asherz

@Vampir. Can you fix it for me?
I wont be able to come online for a while. Thanks xD
Topic Starter
Vampir

-SoraGami- wrote:

Ohh right.. dunno what happened there
Maybe i messed up some things

Thanks Asherz

@Vampir. Can you fix it for me?
I wont be able to come online for a while. Thanks xD
Ok owo
Asherz007
I think we should be all good to go again then.

Best of luck!
Topic Starter
Vampir

Asherz007 wrote:

I think we should be all good to go again then.

Best of luck!
Thank you, Asherz!!! XD
Fresh Chicken
:O
Kuo Kyoka
this is beautiful wow
Topic Starter
Vampir

Fresh Chicken wrote:

:O
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Kuo Kyoka
Also not really sure but there are something I'm still bother a bit:

First is about offset, I feels a little off from it, it's kind of too early, move to -5 is more accurate (+8 from -13).

Next up is some thing about snapping.
I will take a looks at SHD and Evening's diff.
(The timelines are under the new offset).

<- Evening's EX | SHD ->

00:45:995 - I kinda feel like it's 1/4 on here, and later on 00:46:066 - to 00:46:280 - is 1/8.
Not really sure about 1/6 on here but there are some similar parts which you added 1/4 only: 01:22:566 - and on 01:31:709 - too.


00:53:995 - and 00:54:423 -
While 00:53:995 - is pretty much same like above, I won't point it again but there is inconflicted snap between these difficulties, one with 1/6 and one with 1/8.
I won't mind if you said it's for better for playbility but I would just use 1/4 here instead of 1/6.
And 00:54:423 - on here is also inconflicted but I'm more on 1/6 snap, sounds more accurate.

That's all.
But for other difficulties, I'm still want to clarify some other things too.

[SHD]
01:36:120 (96120|2,96120|3) - this one seems off, are you sure it's not on 1/16 (?).
01:14:995 (74995|3) - piano is on 01:15:137 - too, do you like to splits LN here (?).
While 01:19:280 (79280|3) - is all same pitch piano, it's fine to use LN here, but what about 01:19:709 (79709|2) - change to LN (?).
01:26:709 (86709|2) - I thought it should be on 01:26:566 - .
01:32:852 (92852|0) - On here I think can splits it to 01:32:852 - 01:32:995 - 01:33:280 - 01:33:566 - too.
01:35:137 (95137|2) - on here should be end on 01:35:280 - while 01:35:423 (95423|0) - should be start on 01:35:280 - .
01:37:423 (97423|2) - it should starts on 01:37:566 - as the main instrument goes on.
01:40:423 (100423|1) - on here from 01:40:423 - to 01:40:566 - and from 01:40:566 - 01:40:995 - they are different pitch, how about a split (?).
01:43:566 (103566|2) - can split on 01:43:852 - but it's kinda hard but your choice to keep.

[Evening's EX]
I'm not sure, but I feels like 00:56:995 (56995|0) - is a little bit late, how about move to 00:56:977 - 1/16 (?) .
01:16:423 (76423|3,76423|0,76423|1) - not really feels like there is a snare here for being 3 notes like previous, or you added it for piano (?).
01:25:566 - same here too.
01:38:137 (98137|3,98280|1) - only one instrument here, merges it (?).
01:41:995 - add a LN here as the sound going (?).
01:34:709 - 01:39:280 - 01:43:852 - like previous, I don't think there is a snare on these timings.
01:40:423 - but they have on here.

[Fontes' HD]
01:21:137 - 01:21:423 - 01:21:852 - 01:22:137 - I think it's better to add some notes for kick/snare here.
01:41:298 (101298|3,101298|2) - I have no ideas why it's on 1/16.

[Sora's NM]
00:10:280 (10280|0,10280|1) - kinda the only part here with notes for kick sound (?) It's kinda off, 00:14:852 - in here is better to keep since it's the new loop.
01:20:566 - you can add a note on here for snare sound.

[EZ]
00:30:280 - if you are following the vocal at the background, there have one on here too.
00:58:423 (58423|1) - How about moving it to 1st for piano pitch (?).
01:20:852 - there should have a note here to continue the kick flows.
01:21:566 (81566|3) - not really feels like there is a kick on here.
01:45:709 - it's better to make this flow: https://puu.sh/yr7fm/dd0edca0eb.png while on 01:45:709 - is for kick and 01:45:852 - to 01:46:280 - is repetitive snares.

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Also I had no ideas about metadata, but there are some sources like Arcaea, it's Dement ~after legend~ or from the cover it's Dement -After Lenged-
I'm just confuse.

EDIT: Oh nevermind, Dynamix also announced to have this song next too:

The title is correct, however, the artist should have no spaces, just LunaticSounds
From soundcloud too I assume: https://soundcloud.com/lunaticsounds
You may also tags "Dynamix" too
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Well only that I need to clarify something I guess so.
Overall the map is really nice, but I can't mod 4K that well, sorry then.

Good luck with the ranking section!
Murumoo
The legend Album ver (Lunatic Sounds - 08. Dement ~after Legend~)

EZ2AC : NIGHT TRAVELER ver (Lunatic Sounds - Dement ~After Legend~)
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