15:33 Lindyes: Evening's chart seems a bit dumpy
15:33 Abraxos: it is a dump lmao
15:33 Abraxos: well, parts of it are
15:36 Lindyes: uh
15:36 Lindyes: okay
15:36 Lindyes: how would you map the intro
15:36 Abraxos: pitch relevancy
15:36 Abraxos: 1st column lowest pitch 4th column highest
15:37 Lindyes: so it's 'stairs' like?
15:37 Abraxos: if the pitch is ascending yeah
15:37 Abraxos: but it depends on what you set each tone to be
15:37 Abraxos: i tend to ignore pitch a lot but thats just how i do things
15:37 Abraxos: see what fits for you
15:38 Lindyes: wouldn't it be boring if that specific tone pattern remained the same
15:38 Lindyes: if you follow 1st column lowest pitch 4th column highest
15:40 Abraxos: depends on how you execute it, really
15:40 Lindyes: would LNs be okay for the intro?
15:41 Abraxos: if you think it fits then yea
15:41 Lindyes: :(
15:41 Lindyes: okei
15:41 Abraxos: i prefer to not use LNs since its a really calm and airy part but eh
15:41 Abraxos: you do you
15:57 Lindyes: https://puu.sh/tgfiT/924bea8c2b.osz
15:57 Lindyes: uh is this ok for intro
15:57 Lindyes: I chose ln though
15:57 Abraxos: hold on
15:57 Lindyes: ignore the 4 note at the start
15:58 Lindyes: it's just so I can press Z and go back to start
15:58 Lindyes: cause the start of the song has a long pause and I'm lazy
15:58 Abraxos: lul
15:58 Abraxos: just click on the timeline or something
15:58 Lindyes: it's too much effort
15:58 Abraxos: mapping takes effort tho
15:58 Lindyes: xd
15:58 Abraxos: dl time slow eeeee
15:59 Lindyes: er oops
15:59 Lindyes: I
15:59 Lindyes: goddamnit
15:59 Lindyes: wait ah
15:59 Abraxos: erm oki
15:59 Abraxos: i can just look in editor
15:59 Abraxos: btw
16:00 Lindyes: I was going by a pattern for the ln
16:00 Lindyes: the only parts where there are 2 at once
16:00 Lindyes: I didn't do the pattern for the last
16:00 Lindyes: bit
16:00 Abraxos: y do you have two mp3s m8
16:00 Lindyes: lol
16:00 Lindyes: idk
16:00 Abraxos: the file size is like 1000000 mb
16:00 Abraxos: ok besides the point
16:00 Lindyes: fucc
16:00 Abraxos: you can highlight the notes and crtl-c crtl-v to link me to the parts
16:01 Lindyes: uh
16:01 Abraxos: actually no need i can see the structure tbh
16:01 Lindyes: forgot about the last one.....
16:01 Abraxos: 00:13:863 - quad this
16:02 Abraxos: doesnt seem too bad actually
16:02 Lindyes: xd
16:02 Abraxos: 00:07:311 (7311|1) - idk i think LNs for these notes are too restrictive imo
16:02 Abraxos: 00:08:345 (8345|0) - you can leave this
16:03 Abraxos: wonder how youre gonna deal with the wub section
16:03 Lindyes: define too restrictive?
16:03 Lindyes: yea lol
16:04 Abraxos: imagine you holding the 3rd column
16:04 Abraxos: how does the 4th column feel to you
16:05 Lindyes: uh
16:05 Lindyes: ._.
16:05 Abraxos: its hard to press things on the 4th column basically
16:05 Abraxos: thats the nature of long notes
16:05 Abraxos: you hold things and then you have to do more shit
16:05 Abraxos: its restrictive in that sense
16:06 Lindyes: ............................................................................
16:06 Abraxos: its all about the theory and application heh
16:07 Abraxos: but yeah the application part is id suggest you change 00:07:138 (7138|2) - these things to normal notes
16:07 Abraxos: is all
16:07 Lindyes: something as simple as holding 3 2 1 in order
16:07 Lindyes: SO COMPLEX
16:07 Abraxos: i mean youre just starting out so
16:07 Lindyes: :(
16:07 Abraxos: it ok dud
16:07 Abraxos: :!
16:08 Lindyes: but there's a quad before that
16:08 Lindyes: would putting a normal note be ok
16:08 Abraxos: dud its 1/2 snapping it wont kill a baby
16:08 Abraxos: you can test it if you want
16:08 Lindyes: >:((((((((((((
16:08 Abraxos: >:CCCCCC
16:10 Lindyes: ouch
16:10 Lindyes: play testing in editor is hell
16:10 Lindyes: the input lag
16:10 Abraxos: m8 i play on 5 - 10 ms
16:10 Abraxos: it flatuates like shit
16:10 Lindyes: okay I see the restrictiveness
16:10 Lindyes: I missed 4 LNs
16:10 Abraxos: nice
16:10 Lindyes: LOL
16:11 Abraxos: LN mapper smdh
16:11 Lindyes: xd
16:11 Abraxos: smh
16:12 Abraxos: ddelet the other mp3 in the file btw
16:12 Lindyes: donwe
16:12 Lindyes: done
16:12 Abraxos: nice its not 10mb anymor
16:13 Lindyes: ok just wondering
16:13 Lindyes: why is there a size limit
16:13 Lindyes: I mean
16:13 Lindyes: why is it preferred to be smaller
16:13 Lindyes: size
16:13 Abraxos: because people with slower internet can download faster
16:13 Lindyes: oh lul
16:13 Abraxos: extra mp3s in the file arent rankable anyway
16:13 Lindyes: as if this would get ranked lol
16:13 Lindyes: anyway
16:14 Lindyes: wait ah
16:14 Lindyes: 00:07:138 (7138|2) -
16:14 Lindyes: there are similar sections of the intro to this
16:14 Lindyes: should I change them to normal notes as well
16:14 Abraxos: yeah the airy atmosphere in the music is still there
16:15 Lindyes: soooooooooooooooooooooo is that a yes
16:15 Lindyes: xd
16:15 Abraxos: yea dud
16:15 Lindyes: okayyyyyy
16:15 Abraxos: id expect airy shit to be free and bouncy and whatever
16:17 Lindyes: https://puu.sh/tgfZc/d921e3dc9f.osz
16:18 Lindyes: ._.
16:18 Abraxos: hold onn
16:18 Lindyes: fucc
16:18 Abraxos: firefox cant handle puush links
16:18 Lindyes: I did the first one wrongly
16:18 Abraxos: rip
16:18 Lindyes: noooooo
16:18 Lindyes: stop downloadingggg
16:18 Abraxos: no it fine
16:19 Abraxos: its not like id judge you or anything
16:19 Lindyes: https://puu.sh/tgg1U/5566cba8e3.osz
16:19 Lindyes: D::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
16:19 Abraxos: aa
16:19 Abraxos: hold on ahain
16:19 Abraxos: agina
16:19 Abraxos: aguidhiodfshiodefgr
16:19 Abraxos: vagina
16:20 Lindyes: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
16:20 Lindyes: I
16:20 Lindyes: ADL AWD ND DL
16:20 Lindyes: I mapped the 2 ln at once wrong at one part
16:20 Lindyes: shitmapping 101
16:20 Abraxos: o mate i actually meant 00:09:725 (9725|2) - all the LNs to be normal notes except for the ones in the pairs like00:09:207 (9207|0,9380|2) -
16:21 Abraxos: im gud at explaining xd
16:22 Lindyes: yes
16:22 Lindyes: I was clicking on the link in this chat
16:22 Lindyes: and I accidentally changed a few ln in the chart to normal notes
16:22 Lindyes: FUCCCC
16:22 Abraxos: rip
16:22 Lindyes: undone
16:23 Abraxos: crtl-z
16:23 Lindyes: ok let me try changing everything to normal except the pairs
16:23 Abraxos: always good to experiment
16:23 Lindyes: but wouldn't it be weird to play normal notes then suddenly a pair of ln come out
16:23 Abraxos: not really
16:23 Lindyes: feels out of place
16:23 Lindyes: ;c adal dmadm a;ld ma;ldas md a;ldma
16:24 Lindyes: ok I need to start play testing before I judge
16:24 Lindyes: brb changing the normal notes to ln
16:24 Abraxos: the effect is youre emphasizing on those particular tones
16:24 Lindyes: LN TO NORMAL
16:24 Lindyes: ****
16:24 Lindyes: zz
16:24 Abraxos: its ok i took quite a while to map things too
16:24 Abraxos: i mean i took like 4 days for that descent chart
16:32 Lindyes: https://puu.sh/tggsL/361788bb72.osz
16:33 Abraxos: aa
16:33 Lindyes: xd
16:34 Abraxos: hold on
16:35 Abraxos: 00:14:035 - note at 1
16:35 Lindyes: oops
16:35 Abraxos: 00:14:897 - ^^
16:35 Abraxos: 00:15:070 - whr my note at boi
16:36 Lindyes: D:::::::::::::::::::::::::::
16:36 Abraxos: but yeah thats all
16:36 Lindyes: o thanks
16:36 Abraxos: just skim through the chart once in a while
16:36 Lindyes: the next part sounds like jacks
16:36 Lindyes: hm ok
16:36 Abraxos: o
16:38 Lindyes: it wouldn't be good to have ln and jacks beside it right
16:38 Abraxos: hell no
16:38 Abraxos: the next part isnt that intense anyway
16:38 Abraxos: just go with something light and build up at the end to lead into the wub
16:38 Lindyes: sounds like jacks but if I go jacks only I feel like it's abandoning the entire previous section
16:39 Lindyes: I can't define 'light' lol
16:39 Abraxos: density
16:39 Abraxos: if the music is intense then it makes sense to make the part dense
16:40 Abraxos: if its not that intense then it makes sense to make the part less dense
16:40 Abraxos: something like that^
16:40 Lindyes: hm ok
16:40 Abraxos: jacks is fine
16:40 Abraxos: youre following the tsktsk sound right?
16:40 Lindyes: yea
16:40 Abraxos: those are called hihats btw
16:40 Lindyes: this sounds like chambarising type of jack mapping
16:40 Abraxos: then yeah thats alright
16:40 Lindyes: uh ok
16:40 Lindyes: ok I'll try first
16:41 Abraxos: mm, aite
17:00 Lindyes: https://puu.sh/tghr2/5567741dd3.osz
17:00 Lindyes: D::
17:00 Lindyes: I didn't go for hacks
17:00 Lindyes: jacks
17:00 Abraxos: holdon
17:01 Abraxos: o
17:01 Lindyes: do they seem too random
17:01 Lindyes: I didn't follow any pattern
17:01 Lindyes: just followed 2 1 2
17:01 Abraxos: still dling
17:01 Abraxos: internet really shit today z
17:02 Lindyes: lol
17:02 *Abraxos is editing Camellia - Crystallized []
17:02 Abraxos: 00:16:104 (16104|2,16104|1) - i think using doubles for these sounds is a bit ott
17:03 Abraxos: 00:21:363 (21363|2,21363|1) - why double on this tick
17:03 Abraxos: 00:23:345 (23345|0,23345|1,23432|2,23432|3,23518|0,23518|1) - think jumptrill is also too ott
17:03 Lindyes: :<
17:04 Abraxos: just a couple of stuff dont worry
17:04 Abraxos: 00:16:621 (16621|0,16621|3,16621|1) - why is this triple too
17:04 Abraxos: look out for your layering first before anything else
17:05 Abraxos: usually rhythms have their strongest beat on the white ticks (i.e.00:22:138 - 00:22:483 -)
17:05 Abraxos: but it depends on the song yeah
17:06 Lindyes: 00:22:483 (22483|0,22483|3) - do you think I should remove these 2
17:06 Abraxos: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7013842 i was thinking of having such a structure t00:15:414 -
17:06 Abraxos: oh
17:07 Abraxos: erm
17:07 Abraxos: the first drum beat 00:22:138 - is stronger than the second one 00:22:311 -
17:07 Abraxos: 00:22:483 - 00:22:570 - is just hihat
17:08 Abraxos: 00:22:138 - maybe after this part you can choose to focus on the drums rather than the hihat
17:14 Lindyes: https://puu.sh/tghXm/4a685b54f9.osz
17:15 Abraxos: a
17:16 Lindyes: uh wait
17:16 Lindyes: https://puu.sh/tghZW/ef5f2bd262.osz
17:16 Lindyes: use this instead
17:16 Abraxos: damn
17:16 Lindyes: rip
17:16 Abraxos: cant you just upload the chart tho
17:16 Lindyes: uh
17:17 Abraxos: then i can just update and shiet
17:17 Lindyes: do I need to fill in the meta update etc
17:17 Lindyes: it's just uploading to the server right
17:17 Abraxos: no need
17:17 Lindyes: or something like that
17:17 Abraxos: yeah
17:17 Lindyes: ok done
17:17 Abraxos: ok yay
17:18 Abraxos: if you listen closely here 00:16:621 - 00:16:794 - 00:16:966 - there are three consecutive clicks
17:18 Abraxos: thats why i made that stack in my screenshot
17:19 Abraxos: 00:21:276 (21276|3,21363|2) - 00:21:966 (21966|0,22052|1) - you can still stick to jacks its not hard to hit at all
17:20 Abraxos: 00:24:121 (24121|2,24207|1,24294|0,24380|1) - you can do a trill like [14]313[12]
17:21 Abraxos: 00:22:397 - 00:22:742 - not sure why you missed these hihats
17:21 Abraxos: i mod better in the thread btw if you dont think this arrangement works
17:21 Abraxos: irc is eh
17:21 Lindyes: hmm what can I do for the three consec clicks
17:21 Lindyes: nah it works for me
17:21 Abraxos: ah alright
17:22 Abraxos: for the three click thing you can just chord them
17:24 Lindyes: 00:20:759 (20759|3,20759|0,20759|2,20932|1,20932|2,21104|3,21104|0,21104|1) -
17:24 Lindyes: like at here?
17:24 Abraxos: ye
17:25 Abraxos: without the triples
17:25 Abraxos: triple to double
17:25 Lindyes: should I remove the triples from 00:20:759 (20759|3,20759|0,20759|2,20932|1,20932|2,21104|3,21104|0,21104|1) - as well
17:26 Abraxos: there are drum kicks ther
17:26 Abraxos: there
17:26 Abraxos: so its not really necessary
17:26 Lindyes: hm ok
17:28 Lindyes: ok updated
17:28 Lindyes: can you help me check
17:28 Abraxos: mm sure
17:29 Abraxos: 00:18:863 - the three click thing is here too
17:29 Lindyes: da,m
17:29 Lindyes: damn
17:30 Abraxos: ye
17:30 Abraxos: i guess its fine as of now
17:30 Lindyes: ok updated
17:30 Lindyes: ok
17:30 Abraxos: its your first map after all
17:30 Lindyes: xd
17:31 Abraxos: 00:24:725 (24725|3,24811|3,24897|3) - no triple jack pls
17:31 Abraxos: 00:23:863 (23863|1,23863|3,23863|0,23863|2) - 00:24:552 (24552|1,24552|2,24552|3) - not sure why there are differences ther
17:31 Abraxos: here
17:31 Lindyes: dlan dlka kla ndknwd
17:31 Abraxos: could just do triples for everything
17:31 Abraxos: yeah thats why i mod better in the thread
17:32 Abraxos: can take time and whatever stuff
17:32 Abraxos: think you should try to continue mapping the song
17:32 Abraxos: no need to make everything 100% perfect
17:32 Lindyes: but it's probably better if I mapped the entire song first then refer to mods on a thread wouldn't it
17:32 Lindyes: ah yea
17:32 Abraxos: mhm
17:32 Lindyes: ok I'll do that
17:32 Abraxos: good luck finishing it then
17:32 Lindyes: oh yea for the triple jack
17:33 Lindyes: is 2 34 14 okay
17:33 Abraxos: mhm
17:33 Abraxos: its better actually
17:33 Abraxos: will just post this log on the thread for now
17:33 Lindyes: okei