Ephemeral wrote:

Yes, but at that point, what does a vote actually serve? Favourites already indicate a degree of preference - is pitting that against a set of transient votes really necessary?

It´s not, plz start porting maps whit out voting, this is starting to create unnecessary discussions, it´s obvious that people will want their own kind of map to get loved, that´s why gn complained about the lack of tag4 maps, toy for the lack of 5* to be hdhr or just original maps in general, etc, i think that looking at especific members of the community to see what love should or shouldnt be is not a great idea... So just add the most active/favorite maps around, i personally don´t mind if is a 19* map, or a original 4* map, or tag4, anyway, you get the point. And thanks for doing this four community votes possible, but i don´t think is a good idea to keep on doing them

Ephemeral wrote:

Yes, but at that point, what does a vote actually serve? Favourites already indicate a degree of preference - is pitting that against a set of transient votes really necessary?

wouldn't it be fairly easy to abuse a system where it's totally in the community's control though? famous mappers/players would be getting maps loved easier than 'normal' mappers just because for them its easier to get publicity i think

also instead of arguing about what 'loved' is meant to be we could just ask ephemeral how it was intended

Toy wrote:

Remember how I said Loved category would be cool if it didn't continue to add stupid 9.5+* maps? Rabbit Jumping Style fits that pretty well.

There are PLENTY of other much more worthy maps that could be given leaderboards with this category in my opinion. You can always argue to "not vote for it" but there will always be plenty of newer players who are not concerned with quality but rather would see leaderboards on impossible maps because they can't exactly play any of the maps up for voting anyways.

I don't get why people are so mad. If it isn't in the list this week, maybe it will be in the next or the one after that. You can't expect to see all of your favorite maps getting loved status in one single week.. have some patience.

Pittigbaasje wrote:

Toy wrote:

Remember how I said Loved category would be cool if it didn't continue to add stupid 9.5+* maps? Rabbit Jumping Style fits that pretty well.

There are PLENTY of other much more worthy maps that could be given leaderboards with this category in my opinion. You can always argue to "not vote for it" but there will always be plenty of newer players who are not concerned with quality but rather would see leaderboards on impossible maps because they can't exactly play any of the maps up for voting anyways.

I don't get why people are so mad. If it isn't in the list this week, maybe it will be in the next or the one after that. You can't expect to see all of your favorite maps getting loved status in one single week.. have some patience.

Agree

I like how there's always discussions about basically everything once something goes live, even if it's something that we have always wanted.

epic =)) electric love would be beast

opinions opinions

if in your opinion a map should or not be loved, that's fine. respect it.

i have my own opinions on the loved pools and i personally think some maps don't deserve to be in the pool, however i just let the community decide, which is what loved is (was?) supposed to be in its essence.

don't like a map? don't vote for it and move on.

jeez just let people select what they want lol

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I feel like the only real point in having a vote over a predetermined set of maps is precisely because the larger community wouldn't understand creative/unconventional mapping if it hit them in the face. When half the maps in the pool are the garbage maps that, in the absence of this voting system, would be the focus of the community anyways it sort of defeats the purpose of it.

If the maps are going to be largely inaccessible by the larger community then Toy makes a great point. People will be hyped to see top players playing difficult maps to begin with. Why not select the predetermined set of maps to be those that top players are actually excited about and want to play on a regular basis and then use the vote to allow the plebian community to select from those the maps they would be most excited watching people play?

I think people are confusing the purpose of the loved section with the purpose of this voting system. Sure, the loved section isn't supposed to be about quality and it only really matters that a lot of people are excited about the maps. That's just stating the obvious. It's also pointless to have a vote like we do now to accomplish this simple goal. As Ephemeral has point out, if the community is willing to meme a map into the loved section by spamming it with favorites then it probably deserves to be loved by virtue of what the loved section stands for.

That is not to say I think we should get rid of the voting system. Rather, I think the voting system should be used as a means of adding more sophisticated maps into the loved section that top players are interested in while still maintaining some level of community input. People have already mentioned the positive affects that giving such maps loved status could provide so I'm not going to bother rehashing that here.

The details would still need to be ironed out on how to select such maps for voting but it would likely require a voting/suggestion system restricted to top players by which they could select/vote on the list of maps to use in a 2nd round of voting open to the entire community (similar to what we have now).

Tl;DR: Current voting system is pointless due to maps selected. Overhyped maps should be added to the loved system by another method and voting should be reserved for interesting/unconventional maps that top players actually want to play.

Poll ended!

Everything above 500 votes is going in.

the fact the rabbit jumping style map got in and not knife party is fucking hilarious

Why the fuck is Intersect Thunderbolt loved if it has <50 favorites, only 7% of the total vote, and not even top 4?

10/10 voting system lmao

F1r3tar wrote:

Why the fuck is Intersect Thunderbolt loved if it has <50 favorites, only 7% of the total vote, and not even top 4?

10/10 voting system lmao

All maps over 500 votes go in, seems fair to me (???

pijon95 wrote:

F1r3tar wrote:

Why the fuck is Intersect Thunderbolt loved if it has <50 favorites, only 7% of the total vote, and not even top 4?

10/10 voting system lmao

All maps over 500 votes go in, seems fair to me (???

ok and who voted for it

im 90% sure no top players voted for it, or anyone who can actually play it adequately for that matter
the "community" (read: anyone less than 4 digits) literally only voted for it because Wow It's 9 Stars Must Be a Good Map Lets Vote For it!

this system is going to die out VERY fast if we keep adding 40 favorite maps to the voting list and having people who can't even play the maps vote for them

fieryrage wrote:

this system is going to die out VERY fast if we keep adding 40 favorite maps to the voting list and having people who can't even play the maps vote for them

well said

I'm not really liking the whole idea that 40 favorites can get it's map loved and not a map like Knife party, which clearly has more favorites. It makes me think that "loved" isn't what I think it is. I definitely like the feature, just we don't need more 9.5* maps that less than 10 can read

i probably didn't say that properly, so hopefully i'm not sparking hate

I wish my map can add to loved :3

too bad ur maps are as ass as mine

unluky tbh

aaaaaaa DECO* is winning