REOL - YoiYoi Kokon [Osu|CatchTheBeat]

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[-naniwa-] wrote:

My english is bad.
I love this song so much.
So maybe my suggestions can't help you
but I want to try it.


Rain :

00:59:755 (3,4,5,6) - i think voice start on 00:59:755 - to 01:00:155 - end
so I will modify it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616112 That idea works if I just want to follow the vocal, but the drum sound on 01:00:155 (4) - is quite strong also, so I want to include a jump here. That's why I split it up into two sliders instead of a repeat
01:05:255 - add a new circle? idk
that is six jump. this can make some diversity style. This is a little repetitive I guess, but for me 01:04:655 - is a better place to add a note because of the vocal, so I added one there instead
01:18:155 (7,8) - make a slider? because this part is the same 01:19:755 (6) - Good point, done
01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - I think this part can use volume to accentuate the mood.
like 01:10:555 (1) - 70% 01:10:955 (2) - 75% 01:11:355 (3) - 80% 01:11:755 (4) - 85% Nice idea, not sure why I didn't do this actually.
Done on both diffs


Overdose :

00:44:355 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - voice is end on 00:44:355 (5) -
so 00:44:555 - is rhythm I will use a circle. And 00:44:755 - start the voice.
I will modify this part like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616458 Similar to first point in Rain, I also want to emphasise drums here, since I use them to indicate jumps. This is one of the places where I switch between rhythms and is easy to follow because of the low spacing on 00:43:955 (4,5) -
00:44:755 - to 00:45:155 - I want to make a round trip slider
but I feel this is better buz they are regularly like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8616543 Didn't change this because it requires me to make the change above which I declined
01:05:255 - add NC? The kiai follows a consistent 4-beat NC pattern, with an NC added on each downbeat. There's no real special reason to break that here I think
01:18:455 - and 01:20:055 - I am thinking to add a NC will better than now? idk As above

Hope I can help you.
Thanks for your suggestions!

Posting code for both since I made the volume change on Overdose as well.

osu file format v14

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Title:YoiYoi Kokon
TitleUnicode:宵々古今
Artist:REOL
ArtistUnicode:REOL
Creator:Ongaku
Version:Hyperion's Rain
Source:
Tags:jbhyperion mrsergio mir sigma giga
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Vyvaeth
Okay, time to mod this. However...
I noticed that you are a well known mapper with countless GDs ranked. Your experience in mapping overshadows mine to oblivion. Which is a bit troublesome, because I am now much less confident when modding this. Nonetheless, I'll try to point out some of the concerns I had when playing the three first difficulties as a player.

[ Easy]
I had no problems when playing this, with all mods. However,
  1. I think the HP is underwhelming. Consider increasing it to 3 or 4.
  2. The OD shouldn't be higher than the AR, because of potential notelocking (especially with DTHR).
  3. 00:46:555 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This part... is really confusing. I always either get 100s and 50s, or miss because I click too early. It's because there's no (clear)
    distinction between the 1/1 notes and 2/1 notes. You can either: 1. increase the spacing to declare a change in rhythm signature, 2. Stack the notes on each other to achieve the same effect. (Imo, the latter works better, because the song is in a stagnation when it comes to intensity, and it contrasts well with the drop/kiai).

    Very fun.

[ Normal]
This is fine. Just some issues:
  1. Decrease the OD.. in comparison to other maps of the same SR, it's too high.
  2. 00:25:755 (4,5) - It would be wise to increase the spacing. Less confusing. Ears get used to hearing 1/2 beats from the sliders before, so the 1/1 notes should be declared properly though spacing (Either increase or stack). When playing the map, I confused them for 1/2 beats and missed.
  3. 01:03:755 (2,2) - Would it be possible to stack these (move 01:03:755 (2) - to 01:05:355 (2) - )? I don't know if it's viable. If you consider my advice though, you'd need to fix the notes before 01:03:755 (2) -.


Side note about the spread; I think the normal difficulty is just a tad bit harder than the easy difficulty... Maybe make it a 2* instead? It's not even about the SR, anybody who can FC the first difficulty can do the second one with just some more tries. I think you should try to make it a bit harder.

[ Mir's Hard]
  1. There is no sound here: 00:08:355 -
  2. 00:17:755 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Linearly increase the spacing?
  3. 00:21:655 - missed sound?
  4. 01:15:955 (4,5) - Counterintuitive flow, I must admit the transition isn't very pleasing. Maybe ctrl+G or red anchor?

    AR, CS, and OD are perfect. Lovely.


I'm sorry Mr. Ongaku, I can't mod the difficulties above. I'm not confident enough in my modding abilities to do so, I'm sure you'll find it uninsightful. Especially since I've never passed a 4* before.. Maybe if you still insist though, I could do it, I really don't mind. It's a win-win situation, since I gain experience, and you get mods. u_u

Also, I'd like to apologize if this mod didn't help much... the map has gone through 4 pages of modding so it's hard for some random no-name like me to find any issue in it. Well, above is my opinion as a player who mainly plays sub-3.5* maps, so perhaps you could consider it.

Good day to you and good luck with this set!
Mir

Vyvaeth wrote:

[ Mir's Hard]
  1. There is no sound here: 00:08:355 -
  2. 00:17:755 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Linearly increase the spacing?
  3. 00:21:655 - missed sound?
  4. 01:15:955 (4,5) - Counterintuitive flow, I must admit the transition isn't very pleasing. Maybe ctrl+G or red anchor?

    AR, CS, and OD are perfect. Lovely.
Fixed the last thing cuz I kinda agree, a bit of a diffspike
The rest are okay since the first one would play weird if I skipped the red, the spacing already increase slightly, just not linear or visually, and I don't think mapping that sound would work cuz it's so inaudible.

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256,180,77755,2,0,L|249:261,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,292,78155,2,0,L|340:217,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
433,302,78555,6,0,P|416:348|302:362,1,150,6|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
247,307,79155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
244,214,79355,2,0,L|168:216,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,305,79755,2,0,L|164:307,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,225,80155,6,0,P|17:260|10:332,1,150,4|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
79,384,80755,1,2,0:0:0:0:
162,306,80955,2,0,L|176:224,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
242,126,81355,2,0,L|256:208,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,298,81755,6,0,L|404:288,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
463,196,82155,2,0,L|367:186,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
254,199,82555,2,0,P|210:235|194:273,2,75,6|2|14,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
317,122,83155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
263,43,83355,6,0,L|171:46,1,75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
86,71,83755,2,0,P|65:127|91:190,1,112.5,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
79,175,84155,2,0,P|100:231|74:294,1,112.5,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
85,279,84555,5,14,0:0:0:0:
256,192,84655,12,2,86155,0:0:0:0:
256,192,86555,5,4,0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Ongaku

Vyvaeth wrote:

Okay, time to mod this. However...
I noticed that you are a well known mapper with countless GDs ranked. Your experience in mapping overshadows mine to oblivion. Which is a bit troublesome, because I am now much less confident when modding this. Nonetheless, I'll try to point out some of the concerns I had when playing the three first difficulties as a player.

[ Easy]
I had no problems when playing this, with all mods. However,
  1. I think the HP is underwhelming. Consider increasing it to 3 or 4. done
  2. The OD shouldn't be higher than the AR, because of potential notelocking (especially with DTHR). I guess so
  3. 00:46:555 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This part... is really confusing. I always either get 100s and 50s, or miss because I click too early. It's because there's no (clear)
    distinction between the 1/1 notes and 2/1 notes. You can either: 1. increase the spacing to declare a change in rhythm signature, 2. Stack the notes on each other to achieve the same effect. (Imo, the latter works better, because the song is in a stagnation when it comes to intensity, and it contrasts well with the drop/kiai). you're right, they're pretty weird to read. Rearranged

    Very fun.

[ Normal]
This is fine. Just some issues:
  1. Decrease the OD.. in comparison to other maps of the same SR, it's too high. done
  2. 00:25:755 (4,5) - It would be wise to increase the spacing. Less confusing. Ears get used to hearing 1/2 beats from the sliders before, so the 1/1 notes should be declared properly though spacing (Either increase or stack). When playing the map, I confused them for 1/2 beats and missed. rearrnaged
  3. 01:03:755 (2,2) - Would it be possible to stack these (move 01:03:755 (2) - to 01:05:355 (2) - )? I don't know if it's viable. If you consider my advice though, you'd need to fix the notes before 01:03:755 (2) -. gonna keep the way it is, gotta keep ds consistency lol


Side note about the spread; I think the normal difficulty is just a tad bit harder than the easy difficulty... Maybe make it a 2* instead? It's not even about the SR, anybody who can FC the first difficulty can do the second one with just some more tries. I think you should try to make it a bit harder. The normal was harder before i nerfed it uwu

I'm sorry Mr. Ongaku, I can't mod the difficulties above. I'm not confident enough in my modding abilities to do so, I'm sure you'll find it uninsightful. Especially since I've never passed a 4* before.. Maybe if you still insist though, I could do it, I really don't mind. It's a win-win situation, since I gain experience, and you get mods. u_u don't worry, as long as you tried anything is accepted.

Also, I'd like to apologize if this mod didn't help much... the map has gone through 4 pages of modding so it's hard for some random no-name like me to find any issue in it. Well, above is my opinion as a player who mainly plays sub-3.5* maps, so perhaps you could consider it. really, doesn't matter how long it is, im fine as long as you tried.

Good day to you and good luck with this set! thanks!
Soulblaster
[ Normal]

I had no problems when playing. Hower,

  1. Consider increasing CS from 2.5 to 3 as it is more comfortable and would add more difficulty.
  2. I believe this map need more HP from 3,5 to 4
  3. 01:10.555 - 01:11.755 If possible consider replacing the 4 circles by sliders from 01: 10.555 to 01: 11.755.

    In my opinion i think this map looks like a easy and needs more difficulty from 1.78 to 2.0+.


Good work! OD and AR looks great!

Regards.
I'm noob in modding, but I want to help you even if I'm a noob. :(
I hope i help you ;)
MrSergio
o.o

BNs where
Mir

MrSergio wrote:

o.o

BNs where
He made the mistake of putting two on his set. :3c
vekt0r
returning m4m, sorry for delay

Sore wa:
00:13:955 (7,8) - why tiny spacing? imo 8 is stronger
00:16:355 (2) - i see what you’re doing with the wide angle, but imo large spacing/sharp angle should work better here; maybe change previous 2 to wide angle
00:31:755 (3,4) - maybe you can do something with sudden kick on 4, maybe backwards flow from 3 or something, idk just an idea
00:42:955 (3,1) - i think these should be emphasized instead of the 4
00:46:155 (1,2,3) - i get wanting to separate the 2,3 from the 1 but the spacing’s so small
01:00:155 (5,6,1) - this triple feels weird because there doesn’t seem to be much significant here, and this seems more like a ‘break’ in the music
01:00:955 (4) - nc for downbeat and it’s part of the next vocal phrase; you might also want to make this part of the next pattern instead
01:07:355 (1,2,3,4) - feels unintense bc sliderheads too close together and flow creates a “going slower than sv” effect which makes it less intense (basically same effect as 01:00:355 (1,2,3,4) - but i don’t think it fits here)
01:15:355 (1) - also maybe more emphasis on this
following patterns like 01:17:755 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:19:155 (1,2,3,4,5) - that have the player jump every slider, i think 01:22:155 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - isn’t intense enough and doesn’t play as well as the others

MrSergio’s Insane:
00:35:555 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - i think the intensity on these triples is actually descending
01:03:755 (1) - this is kind of important vocally but i don’t think it’s as important as 01:02:555 (1) - or 01:04:155 (3) -, and it’s being emphasized much more with spacing and flow
01:07:155 (9,1) - feels pretty massive compared to previous kiai jumps, also in corresponding 01:00:755 (8,1) - you just stacked
01:11:755 (7) - maybe increase the spacing of this more compared to the rest of pattern
01:15:355 (1) - maybe more emphasis on this idk
01:21:755 (4) - nc for downbeat? also new vocal phrase

really like kiais on both diffs, good luck!
Topic Starter
Ongaku

vekt0r wrote:

returning m4m, sorry for delay

Sore wa:
00:13:955 (7,8) - why tiny spacing? imo 8 is stronger ill just ctrl+g it, just so 00:14:355 (1,2,3,1) - doesnt play weird
00:16:355 (2) - i see what you’re doing with the wide angle, but imo large spacing/sharp angle should work better here; maybe change previous 2 to wide angle I prefer to keep the wide angle.
00:31:755 (3,4) - maybe you can do something with sudden kick on 4, maybe backwards flow from 3 or something, idk just an idea if there were a bit more vocals in that part, yea I'd change it up a bit, but in this case, it'll stay as it is.
00:42:955 (3,1) - i think these should be emphasized instead of the 4 Just nc'd them
00:46:155 (1,2,3) - i get wanting to separate the 2,3 from the 1 but the spacing’s so small plays just fine
01:00:155 (5,6,1) - this triple feels weird because there doesn’t seem to be much significant here, and this seems more like a ‘break’ in the music Yea, I get what you mean, but I mapped it so there wouldn't be a "break," hence all the 1/4 sliders. lol
01:00:955 (4) - nc for downbeat and it’s part of the next vocal phrase; you might also want to make this part of the next pattern instead It was NC'd, but i decided to change it since vocals didnt have an impact until 01:01:155 (1) - . I was debating it and decided on this decision.
01:07:355 (1,2,3,4) - feels unintense bc sliderheads too close together and flow creates a “going slower than sv” effect which makes it less intense (basically same effect as 01:00:355 (1,2,3,4) - but i don’t think it fits here) They're intentional, before the DS was a bit bigger, but I decided to change them.
01:15:355 (1) - also maybe more emphasis on this cant find a way without breaking my entire aesthetic on that section xd
following patterns like 01:17:755 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:19:155 (1,2,3,4,5) - that have the player jump every slider, i think 01:22:155 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - isn’t intense enough and doesn’t play as well as the others well, they're rhythmically different, so of course they're gonna feel different.

really like kiais on both diffs, good luck!
thanks for the mod!
MrSergio

vekt0r wrote:

MrSergio’s Insane:
00:35:555 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - i think the intensity on these triples is actually descending that's because you played the other diff first lol.
I feel they are the opposite and overall it would ruin my entire pattern to change such an aspect right now

01:03:755 (1) - this is kind of important vocally but i don’t think it’s as important as 01:02:555 (1) - or 01:04:155 (3) -, and it’s being emphasized much more with spacing and flow it's important... so what should I do? x)
Let's say I noticed something strange myself and converted (2) into a circle only, but be more clear next time lol

01:07:155 (9,1) - feels pretty massive compared to previous kiai jumps, also in corresponding 01:00:755 (8,1) - you just stacked
it feels normal for such a diff tbh, the BPM is not that fast either. The pattern choice was due to the transition I was attempting over instruments rather than vocals in the second part of kiai
01:11:755 (7) - maybe increase the spacing of this more compared to the rest of pattern can ensure it is already really hard like this. Adding more spacing would really make it too intense for my tastes
01:15:355 (1) - maybe more emphasis on this idk the change in direction seems good enough for this...
01:21:755 (4) - nc for downbeat? also new vocal phrase why not

really like kiais on both diffs, good luck!
Thanks for the mod !
https://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/3Oc548EV.osu
Zexous
"MR. ONGAKU" KID'S ACCOUNT IS GONE
IT'S ONLY BEEN A WEEK
HE'S FUCKING DEAD
[[Pika]]
SORE SORE SORE SORE
(gonna try a new format)


suggestion
you should probably do this
unrankable


Easy
you should get your ds act together lol

  1. 00:09:755 (1,2) - i thought you weren't supposed to use stacks in an easy :/ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790369%20do%20something%20like%20this%20instead%20(don't%20mind%20the%20unkemptness%20i%20did%20this%20in%20like%2010%20seconds)
  2. 00:12:955 (1,2) - Same Lol https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790373
  3. 00:19:355 (1) - it'd be cool if the slider "changed lanes" every beat (up down up down)
  4. 00:25:755 (3) - this feels a little out of place, how about an angled slider to fit with 00:24:955 (2) - this more http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790560
  5. 00:30:555 (1) - move 1px up lol blanket
  6. 00:31:355 (2,3) - i think circle -> 1/2 slider at 00:31:755 - is easier to read
  7. 00:46:555 (1,2) - these are too closely spaced to be 2/1 compared to the rest of the song, space them out more
  8. 00:48:155 (3,4) - eyah uh this looks like a 1/2 spacing from slider end to circle, fix the spacing for entire section thanks
  9. just fix your ds mmkay
  10. 00:55:755 - add a circle on top of 00:55:755 - to ease the transition
  11. 01:00:955 (3) - imo this should be two circles because vocals are the highest pitched here
  12. 01:07:355 (3) - ye same
  13. 01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - im pretty sure that kiai flashing in an easy is kinda not what you're supposed to do
  14. 01:11:355 (3) - maybe nc here for readability
  15. 01:16:155 (2) - two circles for vocals™
  16. 01:18:555 (1) - two circles because end abruptly
  17. 01:23:355 (3,4,5,6) - space them out like you did for the "sore sore sore sore" part
Normal
fix your ds
fix sv lol it's so fucking high

  1. 00:39:355 (5) - this looks really bad lol, looks like if you snapped some poor guy's donkey kong xd instead do this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790647
  2. 00:46:555 (1,2) - by snapping here you give false expectation to 00:48:155 (1,2) - this stack being 1/1, unstack like this or something https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790656
  3. 00:49:755 (1,2,3,1,2) - this is fine because the rhythm've been repeated already
  4. 00:56:955 (2,1) - rethink your blanket decisions
  5. 01:00:555 (2,1) - why not this so it doesn't look like you failed a blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790671
  6. 01:10:555 - ow my eyes lol kiai flash in a normal is kinda spooky, remove?
  7. 01:13:355 (2,1) - nice blanket
  8. 01:13:755 (1,2) - nice time distance equality lol, especially when you look at the next note too 01:15:355 (1,2) - you do it right here so do it right there
  9. 01:16:955 (1,2) - how about something like this so it looks a little cleaner https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790689
  10. 01:23:355 (1) - move this over 2 pixels for better blanket
  11. 01:23:355 (1,2) - easy used circles here be consistently harder thanks
Mir's Hard
why is your sv so much lower compared to normal lol

  1. 00:30:555 (1,2) - i want to kill this type of flow tbh
  2. 00:31:155 (3) - should be 2 circles because vocals
  3. 00:49:555 (4) - place at something like 284|196 for readability while maintaining some factor of emphasis because it looks like a 1/1 gap rn
  4. 01:08:955 (1) - this should be a 3/4 slider that starts 01:09:055 - here with a circle where the previous slider head was for better song representation
  5. 01:15:355 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you were gonna hexgrid do it right thanks
MrSergio's Insane
why don't you have the kiai flashes lol

  1. 00:36:555 (10) - nc? to denote different flow and because i hate combo above 9
  2. 00:53:755 (2,3,4) - i think this would be better if 2 was a ctrl + h of 00:52:955 (1) - and (3) (4) be lined up at the middle of the screen for cleanliness and symmetry
  3. 01:03:755 (1,2) - shouldn't this pattern occur where 01:03:355 (5,6) - this is because pitch
  4. 01:03:355 (5,6,1,2) - 01:03:355 (5,6,1,2) - nice flow lol
  5. 01:26:555 (1) - snap to dead center for spooky finish?
sore wa

  1. 00:10:755 (2) - make this a kickslider to cover the twang in the background
  2. 00:12:555 (3,4,1) - make this equal ds like 00:10:755 (2,3,4,1) -
  3. 00:58:955 - add a circle here at 314|80 to cover the voice cutoff
  4. 01:00:955 (4,1) - flip nc
  5. 01:00:955 (4,1,2,3) - flip these like this to emphasize vocals https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791330
  6. 01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this rhythm is wrong lol, it's circle - 1/4 slider - circle - 1/4 slider - 1/4 slider
  7. 01:17:755 (1,2,3,4) - im really disappointed that this isn't a huge circle motion thing https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791367
  8. 01:22:155 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - these are really underwhelming lol, shouldn't they be like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791375
Topic Starter
Ongaku
Not even the right diff icons smh
Topic Starter
Ongaku

[[Pika]] wrote:

SORE SORE SORE SORE
(gonna try a new format)


suggestion
you should probably do this
unrankable


Easy
you should get your ds act together lol

  1. 00:09:755 (1,2) - i thought you weren't supposed to use stacks in an easy :/https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790369%20do%20something%20like%20this%20instead%20(don't%20mind%20the%20unkemptness%20i%20did%20this%20in%20like%2010%20seconds) fine
  2. 00:12:955 (1,2) - Same Lol https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790373
  3. 00:19:355 (1) - it'd be cool if the slider "changed lanes" every beat (up down up down) I guess
  4. 00:25:755 (3) - this feels a little out of place, how about an angled slider to fit with 00:24:955 (2) - this more http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790560 I just ctrl+g'd 00:24:955 (2) -
  5. 00:30:555 (1) - move 1px up lol blanket too much work
  6. 00:31:355 (2,3) - i think circle -> 1/2 slider at 00:31:755 - is easier to read I prefer this pattern, not too hard or simple (in an easy)
  7. 00:46:555 (1,2) - these are too closely spaced to be 2/1 compared to the rest of the song, space them out more spaced em out
  8. 00:48:155 (3,4) - eyah uh this looks like a 1/2 spacing from slider end to circle, fix the spacing for entire section thanks
  9. just fix your ds mmkayI'd tell you to kill yourself but
  10. 00:55:755 - add a circle on top of 00:55:755 - to ease the transition what happened to "no stacking"
  11. 01:00:955 (3) - imo this should be two circles because vocals are the highest pitched here tried that, too complex for an easy apparently
  12. 01:07:355 (3) - ye same
  13. 01:10:555 (1,2,3,4) - im pretty sure that kiai flashing in an easy is kinda not what you're supposed to do does it affect gameplay?
  14. 01:11:355 (3) - maybe nc here for readability sure
  15. 01:16:155 (2) - two circles for vocals™ same issue with being too "hard"
  16. 01:18:555 (1) - two circles because end abruptly
  17. 01:23:355 (3,4,5,6) - space them out like you did for the "sore sore sore sore" partsure
Normal
fix your ds
fix sv lol it's so fucking high

  1. 00:39:355 (5) - this looks really bad lol, looks like if you snapped some poor guy's donkey kong xd instead do this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790647 then it'd fuck up ds, which you were soooo telling me to fix.
  2. 00:46:555 (1,2) - by snapping here you give false expectation to 00:48:155 (1,2) - this stack being 1/1, unstack like this or something https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790656 fine
  3. 00:49:755 (1,2,3,1,2) - this is fine because the rhythm've been repeated already
  4. 00:56:955 (2,1) - rethink your blanket decisions fuck you and your judgement
  5. 01:00:555 (2,1) - why not this so it doesn't look like you failed a blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790671 no, i like the current aesthetics of this
  6. 01:10:555 - ow my eyes lol kiai flash in a normal is kinda spooky, remove? no, i really want this for all of my diffs
  7. 01:13:355 (2,1) - nice blanket
  8. 01:13:755 (1,2) - nice time distance equality lol, especially when you look at the next note too 01:15:355 (1,2) - you do it right here so do it right there oops, 01:13:755 (1) - was supposed to be ctrll+g'd
  9. 01:16:955 (1,2) - how about something like this so it looks a little cleaner https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8790689 as clean as it can be
  10. 01:23:355 (1) - move this over 2 pixels for better blanket no
  11. 01:23:355 (1,2) - easy used circles here be consistently harder thanks
changed easy's get fucked

sore wa

  1. 00:10:755 (2) - make this a kickslider to cover the twang in the background I prefer to keep this so it wont ruin the ds you so much love :v
  2. 00:12:555 (3,4,1) - make this equal ds like 00:10:755 (2,3,4,1) - why? they're not the same
  3. 00:58:955 - add a circle here at 314|80 to cover the voice cutoff I prefer the pause
  4. 01:00:955 (4,1) - flip nc no, the vocals start at 01:01:155 (1) - , which is why i NC'd it.
  5. 01:00:955 (4,1,2,3) - flip these like this to emphasize vocals https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791330 aight
  6. 01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this rhythm is wrong lol, it's circle - 1/4 slider - circle - 1/4 slider - 1/4 slider sounds ok to me.
  7. 01:17:755 (1,2,3,4) - im really disappointed that this isn't a huge circle motion thing https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791367 fine
  8. 01:22:155 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - these are really underwhelming lol, shouldn't they be like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8791375 I prefer to keep the current patterns.
fuk u and ur ds m8

also, next time when you mod for me, don't use this format, its really annoying, I mean REALLY, annoying to reply to.

thanks btw
MrSergio

[[Pika]] wrote:

SORE SORE SORE SORE
(gonna try a new format)

ye, but try to do it on the old post next time perhaps xd
Cleaned it


MrSergio's Insane
why don't you have the kiai flashes lol

what kiai flashes
  1. 00:36:555 (10) - nc? to denote different flow and because i hate combo above 9
    not a new combo tho :/
  2. 00:53:755 (2,3,4) - i think this would be better if 2 was a ctrl + h of 00:52:955 (1) - and (3) (4) be lined up at the middle of the screen for cleanliness and symmetry
    I didn't put them symmetrical to the middle of the screen, but that's what I did lol. Not sure what I am missing here
  3. 01:03:755 (1,2) - shouldn't this pattern occur where 01:03:355 (5,6) - this is because pitch
    you might have a different version of my map, since both those patterns use the same pattern now
  4. 01:03:355 (5,6,1,2) - 01:03:355 (5,6,1,2) - nice flow lol
    <3
  5. 01:26:555 (1) - snap to dead center for spooky finish?
    you'd be surprised how much I think about note placement and their influence on the map. That circle is placed like that for the amount of movement you have to make after the spinner's center. Same goes for the direction: it's not random, I wanted that exact feeling. Once you play different versions of that part you can see the difference
Thanks, but no change~

PS: Ongaku means the fact you used a lot of aesthetic code which makes it harder to read while replying to your mod. Simple is better
josh1024
From M4M:

Looks good to me, gonna pick on small things.

Easy
00:56:955 (2) missed a kick sound?

Normal
00:19:355 (3) suggestion, nc here cuz white tick.

Hard
00:57:755 (1) missed some hitsounds?
01:16:555 (6,7) backwards hitsounds?
01:13:755 (3) nc here?

Insane
01:20:955 (1) extra clap?

and sorry for being a million years late.
Mir

[[Pika]] wrote:

SORE SORE SORE SORE
(gonna try a new format)


Mir's Hard
why is your sv so much lower compared to normal lol

  1. 00:30:555 (1,2) - i want to kill this type of flow tbh i dont
  2. 00:31:155 (3) - should be 2 circles because vocals
  3. 00:49:555 (4) - place at something like 284|196 for readability while maintaining some factor of emphasis because it looks like a 1/1 gap rn
  4. 01:08:955 (1) - this should be a 3/4 slider that starts 01:09:055 - here with a circle where the previous slider head was for better song representation was told it's too complicated so no change
  5. 01:15:355 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you were gonna hexgrid do it right thanks not really meant to be correct cuz the pitch decreases so does the pattern spacing
please don't use this format again it hurts my eyes and replying to it is a pain :(

fixed nc from josh1024 but @Ongaku can you check hs

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Version:Mir's Hard
Source:
Tags:jbhyperion mrsergio mir sigma giga
BeatmapID:1179848
BeatmapSetID:552854

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:7.5
SliderMultiplier:1.5
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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182,244,76155,2,0,P|205:215|214:179,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,101,76555,1,2,0:0:0:0:
126,172,76755,1,14,0:0:0:0:
261,94,76955,6,0,P|302:105|334:139,2,75,6|2|12,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,101,77555,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,180,77755,2,0,L|249:261,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,292,78155,2,0,L|340:217,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
433,302,78555,6,0,P|416:348|302:362,1,150,6|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
247,307,79155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
244,214,79355,2,0,L|168:216,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,305,79755,2,0,L|164:307,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,225,80155,6,0,P|17:260|10:332,1,150,4|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
79,384,80755,1,2,0:0:0:0:
162,306,80955,2,0,L|176:224,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
242,126,81355,2,0,L|256:208,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,298,81755,6,0,L|404:288,1,75,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
463,196,82155,2,0,L|367:186,1,75,14|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
254,199,82555,2,0,P|210:235|194:273,2,75,6|2|14,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
317,122,83155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
263,43,83355,6,0,L|171:46,1,75,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
86,71,83755,2,0,P|65:127|91:190,1,112.5,14|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
79,175,84155,2,0,P|100:231|74:294,1,112.5,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
85,279,84555,5,14,0:0:0:0:
256,192,84655,12,2,86155,0:0:0:0:
256,192,86555,5,4,0:0:0:0:
frogyfro
m4m from your queue, hopefully this isn't too late.


Easy

00:31:955 (3) - this is the only clickable object in the entire map that is off of a white tick. The overlap does help with readability, but for an easy difficulty i think this is way too hard to read. i'd do this just to make this easy more playable:


01:25:355 (1) - this is an extremely short spinner for an easy diff


Normal

throughout this map you switch between 1/1 overlaps and 1/2 overlaps. while this might be a compelling concept to explore at the insane/expert level, on a normal map patterns this difficult to read really don't have much of a place. i won't comment on all of them, but i'd personally stick to either 1/1 or 1/2 overlaps and not constantly switch it up.

00:16:155 (1,2) - reading this as a 3/2 gap is extremely difficult.

00:19:355 (3,1) - doesn't make much sense to me to use 3 to map the drum sound, but ignore the drum at 19:955. shorten the length of 00:19:555 (1) a bit and put a circle on 20:155

00:31:355 (2,3,4) - possibly you could replace 2 and 3 with a slider here just to reduce ambiguity?

00:48:155 (1,2,3,1,2) - this part is particularly bad to read because 00:48:155 (1,2) are 1/2 apart but 00:49:755 (1,2) are 1/1 apart. if you want to keep most of the other overlaps, fine, but this one is a serious problem in regards to playability.


Mir's Hard

00:16:155 (1,2,3) - the drum sound at 16:355 isn't getting enough attention in this current pattern. i'd go for this instead:


00:31:155 (3) - maybe replace with 2 circles to give more emphasis to the vocals here? right now i feel like putting 00:31:155 (3,4) on red ticks is unjustified, but it would make a lot more sense if you explicitly mapped to the vocals here.

01:23:755 (2,3) - i'd be fine with these, but earlier at 01:08:955 (1,2,3) you used a pattern like this to catch the vocals that were on blue ticks. it seems inconsistent to use sliders like this again when the vocals aren't on blue ticks like before


MrSergio's Insane

00:08:421 (2) - i'm pretty sure this one is 1/6 and not 1/8.

00:11:605 (2) - i'd make this a repeat slider.

00:32:155 (1) - this slider head is over silence.


Sore wa

00:11:621 (2,3,4) - this one is 1/8 and not 1/6. might want to just do 1/8 sliders here.

00:38:755 (2,3,4) - at this point the vocals drop out. i think because of that it would make more sense if these notes would break the triangle pattern instead of conforming to it.

01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this part really clashes with the vocals. something like this would work much better




hopefully this helps! apart from normal this felt like a very solid mapset to me
Topic Starter
Ongaku
Once i get back home, ill apply everything and bug lasse/pentori xd
Topic Starter
Ongaku

josh1024 wrote:

From M4M:

Looks good to me, gonna pick on small things.

Easy
00:56:955 (2) missed a kick sound?

Normal
00:19:355 (3) suggestion, nc here cuz white tick.

Hard
00:57:755 (1) missed some hitsounds?
01:16:555 (6,7) backwards hitsounds?
01:13:755 (3) nc here?

Insane
01:20:955 (1) extra clap?

and sorry for being a million years late.
everything fixed


frogyfro wrote:

m4m from your queue, hopefully this isn't too late.


Easy

00:31:955 (3) - this is the only clickable object in the entire map that is off of a white tick. The overlap does help with readability, but for an easy difficulty i think this is way too hard to read. i'd do this just to make this easy more playable:
applied

01:25:355 (1) - this is an extremely short spinner for an easy diff yea, im just gonna revert it back to it's old one.


Normal

throughout this map you switch between 1/1 overlaps and 1/2 overlaps. while this might be a compelling concept to explore at the insane/expert level, on a normal map patterns this difficult to read really don't have much of a place. i won't comment on all of them, but i'd personally stick to either 1/1 or 1/2 overlaps and not constantly switch it up. I hoped to make it more difficult cuz its only a few SR above Easy.

00:16:155 (1,2) - reading this as a 3/2 gap is extremely difficult. shouldnt be, theres a pause there so it should give the player enough time to read it.

00:19:355 (3,1) - doesn't make much sense to me to use 3 to map the drum sound, but ignore the drum at 19:955. shorten the length of 00:19:555 (1) a bit and put a circle on 20:155 I've always considered this, but i guess ill do it now.

00:31:355 (2,3,4) - possibly you could replace 2 and 3 with a slider here just to reduce ambiguity? there were distinct notes in the song,
so it really prefer not to.


00:48:155 (1,2,3,1,2) - this part is particularly bad to read because 00:48:155 (1,2) are 1/2 apart but 00:49:755 (1,2) are 1/1 apart. if you want to keep most of the other overlaps, fine, but this one is a serious problem in regards to playability. fixed 00:49:755 (1,2) -


Sore wa

00:11:621 (2,3,4) - this one is 1/8 and not 1/6. might want to just do 1/8 sliders here. I was really against it since it'd just make it look inconsistent, but I guess ill change it.

00:38:755 (2,3,4) - at this point the vocals drop out. i think because of that it would make more sense if these notes would break the triangle pattern instead of conforming to it. I prefer this follow up from the vocals

01:08:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this part really clashes with the vocals. something like this would work much better changed




hopefully this helps! apart from normal this felt like a very solid mapset to me
thanks guys
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