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Zonthem

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

Zonthem 2017-02-04T21:33:39+00:00

AyanokoRin wrote:
You're welcome ! Just wanted to point out that the spinner thing was purely a suggestion, while the rest is more important to improve the map's objective quality. It's up to you whether you put a spinner or not, don't feel obligated if someone else tells you to do it :>

dont worry i got it xD
I was just expaining why i wont put spinner there x)

Alex3i2

397 posts

Joined January 2016

Alex3i2 2017-02-05T11:07:36+00:00

Hello NM from my queue

Metaku diff :

Mod

Everyone loves your maps

00:26:525 (2,3) - distance is still small and can be confused easily with 00:26:900 (4,5) - pattern
00:42:875 (1,2) - can u do in a same way to look even better ? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7241078
same for next 2 if u decided
00:45:275 (1,2) - why those have different spacing? Based on first 4 sliders you have 00:42:875 (1,2) - same distance , then 00:44:075 (1,2) - same distance
maybe do in pair too like you did with first 4
00:47:075 (2) - i would keep the ssasme as previous , slider ending on white tick , 00:47:525 - 00:47:600 - circles
00:49:475 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2) - i would something more fun https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7241281 . The idea of the first 4 sliders , the music intensity decrease ,so the distance is decreasing too while the next four the music intensity starting to increase so distance increase too
00:58:475 (1,2,3) - something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7241303
01:20:675 (1,2,1) - in centre
01:32:375 (2,4) - ctrl + g , since you did those 01:30:875 (1,2,3,4) -
01:37:775 (4,5,1,2) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7241334
01:40:775 (1) - center

Metaku

524 posts

Joined August 2015

Metaku 2017-02-05T11:46:19+00:00

TwillghtSparkle wrote:
Hello NM from my queue

Metaku diff :
Mod
Everyone loves your maps xD

00:26:525 (2,3) - distance is still small and can be confused easily with 00:26:900 (4,5) - pattern yeh thought so... well it's completely unstacked now but kind of lazily fixed because I used distance snap so hard to adjust later on but it's completely unstacked now
00:42:875 (1,2) - can u do in a same way to look even better ? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7241078
same for next 2 if u decided Blanket fix ugh. I hate these, should've just done it properly when I mapped this. I'll fix later but atm too lazy as all the blankets are kinda connected and changing one will make the next one weird and so on...
00:45:275 (1,2) - why those have different spacing? Based on first 4 sliders you have 00:42:875 (1,2) - same distance , then 00:44:075 (1,2) - same distance
maybe do in pair too like you did with first 4 Wanted to have a bit of variety in patterns and imo the spacing isn't really that big of an issue with the 1/1 gap in between and I'm keeping that spacing again for the next slides. Might change later on.
00:47:075 (2) - i would keep the ssasme as previous , slider ending on white tick , 00:47:525 - 00:47:600 - circles I wanted to emphasize the melody as it's different here. It clearly hits the blue tick on between and the red tick at the end of the slide
00:49:475 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2) - i would something more fun https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7241281 . The idea of the first 4 sliders , the music intensity decrease ,so the distance is decreasing too while the next four the music intensity starting to increase so distance increase too Something like that could work, but doesn't really go well with how I've structured the map
00:58:475 (1,2,3) - something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7241303 That flows rather bad and I rather have them stacked to have more emphasis on the melody at 00:58:925 (2) -
01:20:675 (1,2,1) - in centre Ehh?
01:32:375 (2,4) - ctrl + g , since you did those 01:30:875 (1,2,3,4) - I rather have a bit more variety here
01:37:775 (4,5,1,2) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7241334 Meh I mapped it like to have more emphasis on the more intenese section right after by having a small pause in movement there. It also fits well with the bass imo.
01:40:775 (1) - center Again ehh?

Update: Hope I didn't accidentally ruin anything while fixing

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tzechi

375 posts

Joined July 2014

tzechi 2017-02-21T13:37:43+00:00

wewewew im here from my mod queue o/

General

SPOILER

disable countdown maybe

Extra

SPOILER

00:47:675 (1,2) - weird. well having a slider repeat with the flow opposite to the next circle is weird i guess
00:49:775 (5,1) - this slider sounds a tick too long imo, even if its meant to be like that
01:01:325 (3,4) - while the spacing is acceptable this being in the middle of a gimmicky section makes it REAL hard to read
01:02:075 (1,2,3,4) -

this sound better
01:32:375 (3,4) - gimmick or not these sliders overlapping each other are REALLY hard to read. also NC
01:38:675 (1,2) - this spacing is real small compared to the next one

Wally's Insane ayyo im modding a map by senpai

SPOILER

00:19:475 (1,2,3) - since 00:18:875 (1,2,3) was a back n forth i feel like this should be too
00:28:475 (1) - random NC
01:15:875 (6,7,8) - not overmapped, but this plays weird
01:32:375 (6,7,1) - really odd flow regardless of mapping style, though this seems repeated later on, so u can keep it
dats all

i cant really mod hypers/hards n below, so :<

Zonthem

568 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

Zonthem 2017-02-21T14:31:10+00:00

Pencil-kun wrote:
wewewew im here from my mod queue o/

General
disable countdown maybe Not for the moment, i like it even if it seems like i'm the only one :'(

Extra
00:47:675 (1,2) - weird. well having a slider repeat with the flow opposite to the next circle is weird i guess Improved flow
00:49:775 (5,1) - this slider sounds a tick too long imo, even if its meant to be like that The music is playing around 1/1beat at this point, and i wanted to emphasis this rhythm by those 3/4 sliders. It perhaps sounds strange but nothing could justify using 1/2 sliders instead of 3/4 there
01:01:325 (3,4) - while the spacing is acceptable this being in the middle of a gimmicky section makes it REAL hard to read
01:02:075 (1,2,3,4) - this sound better As for your previous point, repaced both problematics sliders by circles
01:32:375 (3,4) - gimmick or not these sliders overlapping each other are REALLY hard to read. also NC Fixed overlap (i guess) but NC ? Where ?
01:38:675 (1,2) - this spacing is real small compared to the next one Fixed too

i cant really mod hypers/hards And in fact, i'm remapping the whole hard diff so it's not reaaly a problem n below, so :<

Thx for your mod, you gave me some motivation to finish the mapset

Dstorv

247 posts

Joined November 2013

Dstorv 2017-02-21T21:02:47+00:00

Pencil-kun wrote:
wewewew im here from my mod queue o/

Wally's Insane ayyo im modding a map by senpai Took you long enough to take the hint, I told you to check the Q :v
SPOILER
00:19:475 (1,2,3) - since 00:18:875 (1,2,3) was a back n forth i feel like this should be too Its fine as it is now, Altho I'll be thinking of other alternative in case, someone point this out as well, then I'll changed it
00:28:475 (1) - random NC remove 00:28:625 (2) - instead
01:15:875 (6,7,8) - not overmapped, but this plays weird The slider (well its obvious), then the circle in 01:16:325 (7) - is so it give some fast movement to emphasize the thump on 01:16:475 (8)
01:32:375 (6,7,1) - really odd flow regardless of mapping style, though this seems repeated later on, so u can keep it It's like back-and-forth now with twist xd
dats all

Update

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Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2017-02-28T19:36:29+00:00

Some modding because bored

General

You need a diff that is less than 2 stars but you are appearently looking for someone to GD for it

kiai stuff

Normal diff : The first and last kiai ends little bit before than on the other diffs
Hard diff : The first kiai ends little bit before than on the other diffs
Metaku's diff : The last kiai starts little bit after than on the other diffs but imo the last kiai should start from 01:40:775 - (where metaku starts it)
Wally's diff : No kiai times? Offset +1 so it matches the other difficulties

You need to have combo colours unless the default skin is forced (which is not the case)[/box]

Metaku

00:14:375 (4,5,6) - Overall imo this kind of movement looks kinda dull. I would move these 00:14:675 (5,6,7,8) - little bit lower so it would look something like this http://puu.sh/uo2rd/7fc8ffd6a9.jpg

00:24:575 (6) - A cool idea here would be to make this a similiar bezier slider as this 00:24:275 (4) - but flipped, creating a sort of S shape over the pattern

00:46:475 (1) - 00:56:075 (1) - 00:59:075 (3) - As you have mapped similiar changes in the section as clickables wouldn't it be logical to have this 00:46:775 - as a clickable by one way or another? 00:49:475 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2) - you haven't mapped these as 1/1 sliders either as the changes in the tone are represented as clickables

Sully

00:36:275 (7) - Since your comboes are usually 6-8 objects long you could NC this so the combo does not go to 13. Similiar suggestion to this 00:38:300 (6) - one for same reason

00:37:475 (2) - This could be mapped as a triple just fine but you chose to map it as a 1/2 slider. Why is that?

00:38:300 (6,7,8,9,10) - I don't think this kind of a pattern looks really that good after this 00:38:075 (5) - kind of a slider. You could try for example flipping the stream horizontally. Imo that would look better with the slider

00:39:876 - 00:41:376 - During these few seconds you are ignoring alot of mappable sounds: Are there any reasons for that since it just seems not logical for me :s

01:08:525 (4,5) - You really should not place sliders like this. With the current placement you are alerting to the players that the 4 would have 2 reverses instead of 1 because the 5 is directly on the path that the 4 would make if it would have an even number of reverses. If you would want to keep the placement sense making with the reverse on the 4 you should move the 5 to the left side of 4 like this http://puu.sh/uo5aT/3d42ad2a6e.jpg

Well there are few suggestions for ya guys. GL with the set :>

Metaku

524 posts

Joined August 2015

Metaku 2017-03-01T00:20:23+00:00

DTM9 Nowa wrote:
Some modding because bored

Metaku

00:14:375 (4,5,6) - Overall imo this kind of movement looks kinda dull. I would move these 00:14:675 (5,6,7,8) - little bit lower so it would look something like this http://puu.sh/uo2rd/7fc8ffd6a9.jpg Hmm yeah sure, had to adjust other things a bit too since I want to keep it DS but I think it's okay now

00:24:575 (6) - A cool idea here would be to make this a similiar bezier slider as this 00:24:275 (4) - but flipped, creating a sort of S shape over the pattern
Yeh, changed 00:23:975 (3) - too

00:46:475 (1) - 00:56:075 (1) - 00:59:075 (3) - As you have mapped similiar changes in the section as clickables wouldn't it be logical to have this 00:46:775 - as a clickable by one way or another? 00:49:475 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2) - you haven't mapped these as 1/1 sliders either as the changes in the tone are represented as clickables Hmm yeah a good point... I wanted to undermap those for the sake of simplicity on that section and to use mostly 1/1s I'll think about a way to change them tho but unchanged for now

Thanks for the mod!

stuff

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Zonthem

568 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

Zonthem 2017-03-01T12:15:52+00:00

DTM9 Nowa wrote:
Some modding because bored

General

You need a diff that is less than 2 stars but you are appearently looking for someone to GD for it Asked someone who's quite busy, will come soon^^

kiai stuff I've to tackle that we're not obliged to get the same kiai parts between each mapper, GD mapper can also slightly or totally change the kiai position, it's not a problem^^ But thx for normal diff

Normal diff : The first and last kiai ends little bit before than on the other diffs
Hard diff : The first kiai ends little bit before than on the other diffs
Metaku's diff : The last kiai starts little bit after than on the other diffs but imo the last kiai should start from 01:40:775 - (where metaku starts it)
Wally's diff : No kiai times? Offset +1 so it matches the other difficulties

You need to have combo colours unless the default skin is forced (which is not the case) Not an obligation, anyway a lot of people disable it so, yeah, i'll think about it

And thanks for your mod, that's cool some random mods^^

Smokeman

463 posts

Joined November 2012

Smokeman 2017-03-01T19:55:30+00:00

lets go (m4m from your q)

some general things first:
whats up with these https://puu.sh/upB9N/8fdd62df1f.png PLs adjust the volume, its really loud
00:11:675 - Put your first red timing point here. I know it doesnt matter but the part before 00:11:675 - does not have that bpm
add combocolours (regardless if you think its redundant, some people play with combocolours and it would be nice not to have these unexpressive default combocolours)

Extra

00:11:675 (1) - mute the end of the spinner. Infact use a low audio volume for the spinner/beginning
00:12:875 (1,2,3) - imo a 1/4 repeat slider with a spinner right after would emphasise this better. The triplet is rather intense since you keep using triplets for more intense rythms/beats later one see 00:14:225 (2,3,4) - . Keep unique things in the music unique in your map if you can.
00:16:775 (2) - i think mapping this with a 1/1 gap like 00:21:275 (1,2) - emphasise the long note batter than a 1/2 slider. Concider it
00:21:575 (2,1) - also turn on stack latency when mapping, could be usefull to detect wierd stacks like these
00:26:075 (1,2) - This is very weak. Concider making the transition from 1 to 2 more intense. (you could check how ctrl+g 00:26:375 (2) - looks like). This lack of pressure becomes even more jarring regarding how 00:25:475 (5,6) - which should express the slowly decreasing intensity of that part it is mapped on and how its hhigher spaced than 00:26:075 (1,2) - which is
00:26:675 (1,1,2,3) - You could move this to blanket 00:27:725 (4) - so you get this unity of pattern with 00:27:875 (5,6,7) -
00:29:300 (2,3,3,1) - check stacks https://puu.sh/upCuA/9b826004f9.png
00:29:675 (1,2,3,4) - imo this gradually gets more intense and this 00:30:275 (1,2,3,4) - gradually gets less intense in the music. Yet you mapped as if 00:29:675 (1,2,3,4) - was monotonous and 00:30:275 (1,2,3,4) - was picking up. (see above mentioned part about 00:26:075 (1,2) - )
00:32:075 (1,2,3) - I dont think the NC is enough to queue in the player about this new intense part of the song which about to come. You could low space 00:31:775 (4,5) - and keep the high spacing between 00:31:925 (5,1) - to indicate the new crazy part by creating contrast. Reading this should naturaly inform the player that something is about to happen.
00:32:525 (4) - And also please dont map a slider to this. 2 single notes keeping the pattern you used to emphasise this whole intense part should do the trick. Alternatively you could map a 1/4 slider on 00:32:525 (4) - and a single note on 00:32:675 - (following the stream which is about to follow). Liek this you should get a 5 note stream on 00:32:675 - 00:32:975 - which more intuitive to playe
00:33:275 (1,2,3,4) - I would like it if you broke away from the previous pattern and didnt just stack the triplet on the 1/4 slider. Indicate the change in the music by changing the area the next pattern will play out. Use the space of the editor to the fullest!
00:35:675 (1,2,3,4,5) - have you concidered using a linear pattern for this. Imo it would better with the sound
00:37:325 (11) - you could lower the sv on this one and increase it again for 00:37:475 (1) - to emphasise the difference in intensity
00:38:075 (4) - the new pattern should start with this note not 00:38:225 (1) -
00:38:375 (3,4,5,6,1) - this is sooooo packed. Please concider moving these object further away from eachother so it doesnt look this untidy :<
00:39:875 (5,6,7,8) - inctrease the spacing on these. The sound is exceptionaly strong here and it would deserce higher spacing. example:https://puu.sh/upDKz/8b5d0d8a0b.png (see next point for extra clarification)
00:40:475 (2) - this should be a stream of similar spacing aswell liek the one above. Example: https://puu.sh/upDNV/2bdd1e3022.png
00:41:525 (1,2,3,4,5) - you know it
00:42:575 (10,11,1) - this deserves more emphasis aswell.
00:42:875 (1) - I dont see the point in following this sound only for 3/4 of a beat. Just start with the singletap spam here
00:44:300 - mute slider-end
00:44:900 - ^
00:45:500 - ^
00:47:300 - ^
00:47:675 (1,2,3) - why the drop in complexity?. Its really wierd to insert a less dense part into a section wich kinda stays the same for the whole time.
00:49:475 (4,5) - ends mute
00:56:900 (4) - put another slider like 00:56:675 (3) - . The sudden pause makes 0 sense to me
00:57:125 (5) - and make this a 1/4 slider
00:57:575 (2,3,4) - I dont like modding flow that much since i can have wierd tastes on it but this one just feels awkward on so many levels. 00:57:575 (2,4) - move them apart they are touching and it makes me go uwaah. 00:58:175 (4,5) - ctrl+g these and adjust spacing. should fix the problem.
01:01:850 - put a note here to represent the build-up the song does in your map
01:02:675 (6,7,8,9) - could look batter if you blanketed it. Pattern unity with 01:02:225 (2,3,4,5) - and so on
01:02:075 - i am going to skip this chorus part. I cant type all things down... i dont get this part at all...
01:15:275 (1) - dont let this one repeat and add a 1/2 slider here 01:15:575 -
01:27:350 - dont use normal sample here. Keep the soft samples please
01:40:475 (5,2,3,4) - check stacks.
01:40:475 - in genral i would not stack triplets in this part. Its the most intense part in the song and it should be emphasized appropriately. Stacked triplets can kill the momentum
01:59:975 (1,2) - make these 1/2 long

i skipped some things cause they were repeating problems (see kiai sections) and i also got too tired to mod anymore...

gl&hf!

Zonthem

568 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

Zonthem 2017-03-01T21:29:06+00:00

Smokeman wrote:
lets go (m4m from your q)

some general things first:
whats up with these https://puu.sh/upB9N/8fdd62df1f.png PLs adjust the volume, its really loud
00:11:675 - Put your first red timing point here. I know it doesnt matter but the part before 00:11:675 - does not have that bpm
add combocolours (regardless if you think its redundant, some people play with combocolours and it would be nice not to have these unexpressive default combocolours) Okay you were 2 to mention it, i'll really think about it^^

Extra

00:11:675 (1) - mute the end of the spinner. Infact use a low audio volume for the spinner/beginning
00:12:875 (1,2,3) - imo a 1/4 repeat slider with a spinner right after would emphasise this better. The triplet is rather intense since you keep using triplets for more intense rythms/beats later one see 00:14:225 (2,3,4) - . Keep unique things in the music unique in your map if you can.
00:16:775 (2) - i think mapping this with a 1/1 gap like 00:21:275 (1,2) - emphasise the long note batter than a 1/2 slider. Concider it Some mods perviously told me it feels a little empty, so i tried as it... but i'll remove if you are not the only one to suggest
00:21:575 (2,1) - also turn on stack latency when mapping, could be usefull to detect wierd stacks like these
00:26:075 (1,2) - This is very weak. Concider making the transition from 1 to 2 more intense. (you could check how ctrl+g 00:26:375 (2) - looks like). This lack of pressure becomes even more jarring regarding how 00:25:475 (5,6) - which should express the slowly decreasing intensity of that part it is mapped on and how its hhigher spaced than 00:26:075 (1,2) - which is
00:26:675 (1,1,2,3) - You could move this to blanket 00:27:725 (4) - so you get this unity of pattern with 00:27:875 (5,6,7) -
00:29:300 (2,3,3,1) - check stacks https://puu.sh/upCuA/9b826004f9.png
00:29:675 (1,2,3,4) - imo this gradually gets more intense and this 00:30:275 (1,2,3,4) - gradually gets less intense in the music. Yet you mapped as if 00:29:675 (1,2,3,4) - was monotonous and 00:30:275 (1,2,3,4) - was picking up. (see above mentioned part about 00:26:075 (1,2) - )
00:32:075 (1,2,3) - I dont think the NC is enough to queue in the player about this new intense part of the song which about to come. You could low space 00:31:775 (4,5) - and keep the high spacing between 00:31:925 (5,1) - to indicate the new crazy part by creating contrast. Reading this should naturaly inform the player that something is about to happen.
00:32:525 (4) - And also please dont map a slider to this. 2 single notes keeping the pattern you used to emphasise this whole intense part should do the trick. Alternatively you could map a 1/4 slider on 00:32:525 (4) - and a single note on 00:32:675 - (following the stream which is about to follow). Liek this you should get a 5 note stream on 00:32:675 - 00:32:975 - which more intuitive to playe
00:33:275 (1,2,3,4) - I would like it if you broke away from the previous pattern and didnt just stack the triplet on the 1/4 slider. Indicate the change in the music by changing the area the next pattern will play out. Use the space of the editor to the fullest!
00:35:675 (1,2,3,4,5) - have you concidered using a linear pattern for this. Imo it would better with the sound I like the curved shape for this one, and personnaly i think it fit better the music than a linear one
00:37:325 (11) - you could lower the sv on this one and increase it again for 00:37:475 (1) - to emphasise the difference in intensity
00:38:075 (4) - the new pattern should start with this note not 00:38:225 (1) -
00:38:375 (3,4,5,6,1) - this is sooooo packed. Please concider moving these object further away from eachother so it doesnt look this untidy :< That was quite the point of this pattern, not hard on aim. Anyway spaced it a little, will see what it renders
00:39:875 (5,6,7,8) - inctrease the spacing on these. The sound is exceptionaly strong here and it would deserce higher spacing. example:https://puu.sh/upDKz/8b5d0d8a0b.png (see next point for extra clarification)
00:40:475 (2) - this should be a stream of similar spacing aswell liek the one above. Example: https://puu.sh/upDNV/2bdd1e3022.png Okay i've see what you purpose, using your pattern i'll however keep a quite low spacing because i really dont want to have a spacing like in kiai parts
00:41:525 (1,2,3,4,5) - you know it
00:42:575 (10,11,1) - this deserves more emphasis aswell.
00:42:875 (1) - I dont see the point in following this sound only for 3/4 of a beat. Just start with the singletap spam here First to follow instrument as for the next ones, and second, to make a decent break between the 2 parts of the song, because i don't think that 2 1/4 sliders are enough for this
00:44:300 - mute slider-end
00:44:900 - ^
00:45:500 - ^
00:47:300 - ^
00:47:675 (1,2,3) - why the drop in complexity?. Its really wierd to insert a less dense part into a section wich kinda stays the same for the whole time. This one it's my bad, i think that i wanted to go eat smthg or whatever^^ corrected
00:49:475 (4,5) - ends mute
00:56:900 (4) - put another slider like 00:56:675 (3) - . The sudden pause makes 0 sense to me
00:57:125 (5) - and make this a 1/4 slider
00:57:575 (2,3,4) - I dont like modding flow that much since i can have wierd tastes on it but this one just feels awkward on so many levels. 00:57:575 (2,4) - move them apart they are touching and it makes me go uwaah. 00:58:175 (4,5) - ctrl+g these and adjust spacing. should fix the problem.
01:01:850 - put a note here to represent the build-up the song does in your map After thinking alot, i'll keep it like this because adding a circle would break a pattern i really like, and i don't feel it's necessary
01:02:675 (6,7,8,9) - could look batter if you blanketed it. Pattern unity with 01:02:225 (2,3,4,5) - and so on
01:02:075 - i am going to skip this chorus part. I cant type all things down... i dont get this part at all...
01:15:275 (1) - dont let this one repeat and add a 1/2 slider here 01:15:575 -
01:27:350 - dont use normal sample here. Keep the soft samples please
01:40:475 (5,2,3,4) - check stacks.
01:40:475 - in genral i would not stack triplets in this part. Its the most intense part in the song and it should be emphasized appropriately. Stacked triplets can kill the momentum
01:59:975 (1,2) - make these 1/2 long I don't think so, it refacts better the music there, and the goal at this point of the music is not to killmove the player so, easy is good imo

i skipped some things cause they were repeating problems (see kiai sections) and i also got tired too tired to mod anymore...

gl&hf!

Well you've done a great mod for me, i think it's one of the most useful i ever have, so thanks really <3

Dstorv

247 posts

Joined November 2013

Dstorv 2017-03-05T05:48:42+00:00

DTM9 Nowa wrote:
Some modding because bored

Sully

00:36:275 (7) - Since your comboes are usually 6-8 objects long you could NC this so the combo does not go to 13. Similiar suggestion to this 00:38:300 (6) - one for same reason

00:37:475 (2) - This could be mapped as a triple just fine but you chose to map it as a 1/2 slider. Why is that?

00:38:300 (6,7,8,9,10) - I don't think this kind of a pattern looks really that good after this 00:38:075 (5) - kind of a slider. You could try for example flipping the stream horizontally. Imo that would look better with the slider

00:39:876 - 00:41:376 - During these few seconds you are ignoring alot of mappable sounds: Are there any reasons for that since it just seems not logical for me :s Remapped the whole section, so it fit the rhythm better

01:08:525 (4,5) - You really should not place sliders like this. With the current placement you are alerting to the players that the 4 would have 2 reverses instead of 1 because the 5 is directly on the path that the 4 would make if it would have an even number of reverses. If you would want to keep the placement sense making with the reverse on the 4 you should move the 5 to the left side of 4 like this http://puu.sh/uo5aT/3d42ad2a6e.jpg Changed the spacing so its consistent to avoid confusion

Well there are few suggestions for ya guys. GL with the set :>

Also Added Kiai Time, and change the offset

Update

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rock time

264 posts

Joined January 2015

rock time 2017-03-11T15:44:02+00:00

m4m from ur queue

extra
00:12:725 mute the spinner end, there isnt a sound there
00:20:375 (3,5) tiny overlap plz fix
honestly tho, i'd remap that whole combo of 00:20:075 (1,2,3,4,5,6)
something like this would play so much nicer and looks nicer too
00:23:525 (3) do not do this. two 1/4 sliders going one direction and a third going the opposite. bad flow, uncomfortable to play, and its not very intuitive. Either make 3 the same as the previous two sliders or make it so that they alternate directions
00:25:025 (2) make it so that its equal distance from both 4's, like this
00:27:875 (5) move it a liiittle farther out so there isnt that tiny overlap
00:29:675 (1,2) make the distance with them uniform with the distance between 2-3 and 3-4
00:30:125 (4,1,2,3,4,1,2) this part is kinda ugly. first i'd move 00:30:275 (1) down to the right a little, then blanket 00:30:425 (2,4) with the sliders. something like this would look awesome
00:31:925 (5) tiny overlap with 1 plz fix
00:32:525 (4,5) plz delete 5 and make 4 a 1/2 slider, sounds nicer, feels better to play, etc etc
00:52:175 (8) i would move it so it looks like this
01:35:075 (6) move it a liiittle farther out so it isnt touching the other sliders
01:39:875 (3) a 1/4 slider that only repeats 4 times, not good. either change the stream to another repeat slider or change how many times the slider repeats
01:43:025 (4) move 4 to here. feels nicer to play and looks nicer
01:44:225 (5) move it out farther so its directly above the next slider
01:57:575 (1,2) tiny overlap plz fix

gl with map

Zonthem

568 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

Zonthem 2017-03-13T18:02:33+00:00

FuruSatori wrote:
m4m from ur queue

extra
00:12:725 mute the spinner end, there isnt a sound there
00:20:375 (3,5) tiny overlap plz fix
honestly tho, i'd remap that whole combo of 00:20:075 (1,2,3,4,5,6)
something like this would play so much nicer and looks nicer too
00:23:525 (3) do not do this. two 1/4 sliders going one direction and a third going the opposite. bad flow, uncomfortable to play, and its not very intuitive. Either make 3 the same as the previous two sliders or make it so that they alternate directions
00:25:025 (2) make it so that its equal distance from both 4's, like this
00:27:875 (5) move it a liiittle farther out so there isnt that tiny overlap
00:29:675 (1,2) make the distance with them uniform with the distance between 2-3 and 3-4 The goal is to show the increase in the song, so the spacing is vonluntary unequals
00:30:125 (4,1,2,3,4,1,2) this part is kinda ugly. first i'd move 00:30:275 (1) down to the right a little, then blanket 00:30:425 (2,4) with the sliders. something like this would look awesome
00:31:925 (5) tiny overlap with 1 plz fix
00:32:525 (4,5) plz delete 5 and make 4 a 1/2 slider, sounds nicer, feels better to play, etc etc That's Exactly what a previous mod told me not to do^^ So i'm gonna let is as that and see what happend for next mods
00:52:175 (8) i would move it so it looks like this
01:35:075 (6) move it a liiittle farther out so it isnt touching the other sliders
01:39:875 (3) a 1/4 slider that only repeats 4 times, not good. either change the stream to another repeat slider or change how many times the slider repeats
01:43:025 (4) move 4 to here. feels nicer to play and looks nicer
01:44:225 (5) move it out farther so its directly above the next slider I didnt really get this point :/
01:57:575 (1,2) tiny overlap plz fix

gl with map

I corrected what i didn't reply
Thanx for the mod

Tralen

350 posts

Joined October 2015

Tralen 2017-03-14T18:57:34+00:00

Hello, thx so much for you "mod" i think, it was amazing and your map too,

dont expect a great mod cuz i am too noob :c, but i will try

I am going to give you some opinions to the next diffs

Wallly Insane:

Nice mapping but in the final 02:00:875 (5,6,7,8,9) - , think this is better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7565649

replaces the slider to the small stream i think its better

This replaces the spin, I am not very fan of the spiners, the final slider obviously has a slow speed, you can make a good slider according to its speed and in the end the circle cuz there is a note

Suggestions for the slow slider:

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7565694

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7565712

well its whatever you want if u mind change that part

Hard diff:

here

00:14:075 (1,2,3,4) -

must be like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7565783

in my opinion, and that rhytim its not the only one

In this diff, the speed change are so weird, i mean from: 00:23:675 (1,2,3) - i think is to much for that diff...

Well thast it for me, thx so much for your mod again and gl, u have my fav in your mapset

i do the best of me , sorry if was not enoght :c

Zonthem

568 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

Zonthem 2017-03-14T20:20:53+00:00

Tralen wrote:
Hello, thx so much for you "mod" i think, it was amazing and your map too,

dont expect a great mod cuz i am too noob :c, but i will try

Hard diff:

here

00:14:075 (1,2,3,4) -

must be like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7565783
I don't feel like it's easier to play as you suggest, i know this pattern have some issues but imo your's not better than mine

in my opinion, and that rhytim its not the only one

In this diff, the speed change are so weird, i mean from: 00:23:675 (1,2,3) - i think is to much for that diff... Right, i've to correct those kiai passages

Well thast it for me, thx so much for your mod again and gl, u have my fav in your mapset

i do the best of me , sorry if was not enoght :c

Don't feel sorry to give a really short mod, you spend time on the map and it is still really good^^
And you try to suggest things that we would perhaps not even take a look without your mod^^

Thx for the mod

Stack

osu! Alumni

729 posts

Joined March 2015

Stack 2017-03-16T11:32:34+00:00

Normal

00:33:275 (1) - Moving this a bit to the left so doesnt overlap with 00:31:475 (3) (unless you want it to)

00:35:975 - Why not put a note here, the song keeps going.

00:39:575 - ^, just put a note towards the slider.

00:55:475 (2) - Would space this inbetween the 2 sliders

01:40:775 (1) - Beacause of the large time between these they shouldnt be stacked.

Not much to say about this diff except that the SV feels high for a normal

Hard

00:15:125 (4) - The spacing isn't equal between the previous and the next slider.

00:26:975 (1,2,3) - It feels really weird to hear this and not do a circle into a triple https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/PvToOac.png, I think you can get away with it using triples here without raising the star diff too much.

Metaku's Hyper

The ar is high for an sub 4 star map, maybe lower it a tiny bit.

00:18:725 (6) - I don't feel like there should be a note here.

01:01:475 (2,3,4) - Put the reverse slider first and then the other 2

Wally's insane

01:25:475 (3) - Make this reverse slider 2 reverses longer so the long slider starts on a more imnpactfull beat

I can't say much about the last 2 diffs cause stream/speed maps are really not my style.

Zonthem

568 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

Zonthem 2017-03-16T17:18:52+00:00

gottagof4ast wrote:
Normal
00:33:275 (1) - Moving this a bit to the left so doesnt overlap with 00:31:475 (3) (unless you want it to)

00:35:975 - Why not put a note here, the song keeps going.

00:39:575 - ^, just put a note towards the slider.

00:55:475 (2) - Would space this inbetween the 2 sliders added 2 circles by the same

01:40:775 (1) - Beacause of the large time between these they shouldnt be stacked.

Not much to say about this diff except that the SV feels high for a normal I'll not change SV, and i think for a normal its "normal" (joke, much lol) to have a little challenge by being able to move cursor faster than easy

Hard
00:15:125 (4) - The spacing isn't equal between the previous and the next slider.

00:26:975 (1,2,3) - It feels really weird to hear this and not do a circle into a triple https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/PvToOac.png, I think you can get away with it using triples here without raising the star diff too much. Your proposition dont feet the music at all, but i've added triplets as suggested on each kiai parts

I can't say much about the last 2 diffs cause stream/speed maps are really not my style.

no answers = applied
Thanx for the mod i'll do my part asap but i'm quite busy by studies

Canderos

66 posts

Joined July 2015

Canderos 2017-03-18T19:05:41+00:00

Hey! From your M4M queue.

Normal

00:35:975 (2,3) - Blanket note w/ slider curve thing.

01:40:475 - Loud cymbals here, I'd recommend adding a note.

02:01:475 (1,1) - I'd recommend removing the circle, moving the spinner up a half-beat, then extending it, but it's your call. It's good on the other diffs, but it might be hard for a new player to read it.

Hard

00:27:125 - You may want to add a note here to follow the music, but it does bring the SR up a fair bit. This could also be done at 01:05:525 / 01:44:225 / 01:53:825.

00:31:625 - Consider replacing from here to 00:31:925 (2) with something like this

so it follows the music a bit better. I understand you use similar patterns in other places like 00:17:225, but 00:31:625 is inside of a kiai and you used triples earlier in it as well. If you do change it, also change from 01:10:025 to 01:10:325 (2) / 01:48:725 to 01:49:025 (2) / 01:58:325 to 01:58:625 (3).

00:31:775 (3) - Move/change slider so it doesn't overlap with 00:32:525 (4), unless you'd rather it do.

00:35:375 (1,2) - Add a note on the red tick and move the slider to the white tick + shorten it similarly to this

to keep the pattern similar to others around it.

00:58:475 (2,3) - Fix blanket.

01:16:175 (4) - Ctrl + g

01:25:475 (4,5) - Try to keep a similar curve on both sliders.

01:29:675 (1,2,3,4) - May want to increase spacing to get rid of overlap.

01:49:925 - Add something here to continue the music.

01:57:575 (1) - Change this (white beat-long slider that reverses) to something like 00:30:875 (3,4) (white beat-long slider with a note on the next white beat) to keep it consistent.

01:58:775 (4,5) - Might want to change slider shape so they dont overlap like that, it's fine as it is tho.

01:59:975 (1,2,3,1) - Could add a bit more space between these objects, but again it's fine as it is.

Metaku's Hyper

00:14:975 (8) - Nitpicky, but might want to make that slider more in line with 00:14:375 (4), as 00:14:975 (8) is the only 45 degree slider in the section and doesn't really fit. Along with that, 00:14:675 (5,6,7,8) could be moved down after the change in order to avoid overlap with 00:15:275 (1).

01:00:650 (2,3,4,1) - May want to change direction of the stream a bit so the transition from the slider to the stream isnt as jarring, like this

If you did that, however, I'd also recommend moving 01:01:475 (2,3,4) so it doesn't overlap/flow is better.

Gl on ranking!

Zonthem

568 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

Zonthem 2017-03-23T10:25:19+00:00

Canderos wrote:
Hey! From your M4M queue.

Normal
00:35:975 (2,3) - Blanket note w/ slider curve thing.

01:40:475 - Loud cymbals here, I'd recommend adding a note.

02:01:475 (1,1) - I'd recommend removing the circle, moving the spinner up a half-beat, then extending it, but it's your call. It's good on the other diffs, but it might be hard for a new player to read it. I think put a cicle there is quite important so...

Hard
00:27:125 - You may want to add a note here to follow the music, but it does bring the SR up a fair bit. This could also be done at 01:05:525 / 01:44:225 / 01:53:825.

00:31:625 - Consider replacing from here to 00:31:925 (2) with something like this

so it follows the music a bit better. I understand you use similar patterns in other places like 00:17:225, but 00:31:625 is inside of a kiai and you used triples earlier in it as well. If you do change it, also change from 01:10:025 to 01:10:325 (2) / 01:48:725 to 01:49:025 (2) / 01:58:325 to 01:58:625 (3).

00:31:775 (3) - Move/change slider so it doesn't overlap with 00:32:525 (4), unless you'd rather it do.

00:35:375 (1,2) - Add a note on the red tick and move the slider to the white tick + shorten it similarly to this

to keep the pattern similar to others around it.

00:58:475 (2,3) - Fix blanket.

01:16:175 (4) - Ctrl + g

01:25:475 (4,5) - Try to keep a similar curve on both sliders.

01:29:675 (1,2,3,4) - May want to increase spacing to get rid of overlap.

01:49:925 - Add something here to continue the music.

01:57:575 (1) - Change this (white beat-long slider that reverses) to something like 00:30:875 (3,4) (white beat-long slider with a note on the next white beat) to keep it consistent. I prefer change slider + circle into reversing slider

01:58:775 (4,5) - Might want to change slider shape so they dont overlap like that, it's fine as it is tho. I think it's fine too, and i like this kind of overlap

01:59:975 (1,2,3,1) - Could add a bit more space between these objects, but again it's fine as it is.

Gl on ranking!

Tahnx for the mod

BitCritterSpyro

174 posts

Joined September 2016

BitCritterSpyro 2017-04-10T06:09:08+00:00

You can pour a bucket of lava on me for coming two months late after posting in my queue. ;-;

But hey, at least I still came, right?

[General]
Are you sure it's a good idea to start the third Kiai at 01:40:475 -, when it's really just a very short drop-prep section to 01:40:775 -'s more intense melody? In fact, it seems as though 01:40:775 - might require a new timing point, as I feel 01:40:475 - to 01:40:775 - is a point in the song where a fermata is applied. Those things usually extend a note by an extra beat.

[Normal]
00:40:475 (1,2) - Maybe rotate both of these by 2 degrees clockwise, to emphasize linearity?
00:42:875 (1) - To make a cleaner-looking slider, you could try moving the first red peg from 449,214 to 443,217
- advisory: a distance detection glitch happens this way for 00:44:525 - (3), where AiMod says it's too far.

[Hard]
01:53:525 (7) - New-Combo this. The stack rate here vs the beginning of this combo differentiates enough that it may cause confusion for some.
00:42:875 (1) - Elliptical flow is probably not implemented very well. Your original formation of this slider may cause some to read the suggested path as a sharp-angle path, rather than what's indicated in this picture:

SPOILER

Maybe change the slider to this, so this flow exists:

SPOILER

[Metaku's Hyper]
00:18:725 (6,1) - stacking method not used anywhere else in the map, and could cause some confusion. Metaku might benefit from making these circles flow in a path.
Here's my suggestion:

SPOILER

[Wally's Insane]
00:11:675 (1) - This spinner's end is kinda not giving enough room to give a heads up that a stack is impending. Keyword: kinda. Since this is insane, I'm going to give this spinner the benefit of the doubt, but it may need to be shortened by a 1/2 beat.
01:15:875 (6) - This slider skips over a part of the melody coming from the synth wind instrument, specifically the 1/2-beat hit from the instrument. Maybe Sullywally should make this slider 1/2 beat shorter, and then make another 1/2 slider to accommodate the next 2 hits.
01:25:775 (1) - The same kind of error over here. Is this and the last maybe-error intentional?

[Extra]
00:43:475 (1,2,3,4) - I feel as though this jump section is a bit gimmicky, considering how it's not placed to the rhythm of the treble instrument that's been leading before, but instead placed to the rhythm of the percussion. Could you perhaps elaborate on why you did this? I want to give a suggestion on how to fix this, but I don't fully understand intentions from Extra difficulties quite yet.
01:00:875 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Your intention for this is clearer, but its readability is going to be troublesome, since it's heavily reliant on approach circle reading, and the spacing variation in this section just goes WILD. I'd suggest replacing this section with a spinner until you can figure out a better way to emphasize the climbup riff, because as it is now, it's not something I'm comfortable with gameplay-wise.

Aaand, that's it. Again, sorry for coming very late. At least now you've gotten another mod

Zonthem

568 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

Zonthem 2017-04-12T18:52:28+00:00

BitCritterSpyro wrote:
You can pour a bucket of lava on me for coming two months late after posting in my queue. ;-;

But hey, at least I still came, right?

[General]
Are you sure it's a good idea to start the third Kiai at 01:40:475 -, when it's really just a very short drop-prep section to 01:40:775 -'s more intense melody? In fact, it seems as though 01:40:775 - might require a new timing point, as I feel 01:40:475 - to 01:40:775 - is a point in the song where a fermata is applied. Those things usually extend a note by an extra beat. Right

[Normal]
00:40:475 (1,2) - Maybe rotate both of these by 2 degrees clockwise, to emphasize linearity? Didn't reaaly get what you said, i made others modifs there, it's cool imo
00:42:875 (1) - To make a cleaner-looking slider, you could try moving the first red peg from 449,214 to 443,217
- advisory: a distance detection glitch happens this way for 00:44:525 - (3), where AiMod says it's too far. hum.... what ?

[Hard]
01:53:525 (7) - New-Combo this. The stack rate here vs the beginning of this combo differentiates enough that it may cause confusion for some.
00:42:875 (1) - Elliptical flow is probably not implemented very well. Your original formation of this slider may cause some to read the suggested path as a sharp-angle path, rather than what's indicated in this picture:
SPOILER

Maybe change the slider to this, so this flow exists:
SPOILER
I didn't reaaly expected that type of flow, but your way is good so, it's okay. It creates an overlap but dont care

[Extra]
00:43:475 (1,2,3,4) - I feel as though this jump section is a bit gimmicky, considering how it's not placed to the rhythm of the treble instrument that's been leading before, but instead placed to the rhythm of the percussion. Could you perhaps elaborate on why you did this? I want to give a suggestion on how to fix this, but I don't fully understand intentions from Extra difficulties quite yet. If you want to make suggestions, the idea there was to make a jump that decrease spacing, i didn't really follow a precise instrument
01:00:875 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Your intention for this is clearer, but its readability is going to be troublesome, since it's heavily reliant on approach circle reading, and the spacing variation in this section just goes WILD. I'd suggest replacing this section with a spinner until you can figure out a better way to emphasize the climbup riff, because as it is now, it's not something I'm comfortable with gameplay-wise. The music there is quite uncomforatble to hear, so i don't really see why the gameplay should be comforatble. I admit it can be the most confusing part of the map, but it's wanted.
If you have a better solution, i'll take it but i don't want to put a standard boring easily readable part there

Aaand, that's it. Again, sorry for coming very late. At least now you've gotten another mod

thanks for the 'late' mod xD

Dstorv

247 posts

Joined November 2013

Dstorv 2017-04-15T12:22:02+00:00

Yay, I'm back~

Tralen wrote:
Hello, thx so much for you "mod" i think, it was amazing and your map too,

dont expect a great mod cuz i am too noob :c, but i will try

I am going to give you some opinions to the next diffs

Wallly Insane:

Nice mapping but in the final 02:00:875 (5,6,7,8,9) - , think this is better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7565649

replaces the slider to the small stream i think its better

This replaces the spin, I am not very fan of the spiners, the final slider obviously has a slow speed, you can make a good slider according to its speed and in the end the circle cuz there is a note

Suggestions for the slow slider:

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7565694

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7565712

well its whatever you want if u mind change that part Imo, spinner end is strong enough to justify the sound. And I cant sliderart, so....

gottagof4ast wrote:
Wally's insane
01:25:475 (3) - Make this reverse slider 2 reverses longer so the long slider starts on a more imnpactfull beat Changed

BitCritterSpyro wrote:
[Wally's Insane]
00:11:675 (1) - This spinner's end is kinda not giving enough room to give a heads up that a stack is impending. Keyword: kinda. Since this is insane, I'm going to give this spinner the benefit of the doubt, but it may need to be shortened by a 1/2 beat. Right.
01:15:875 (6) - This slider skips over a part of the melody coming from the synth wind instrument, specifically the 1/2-beat hit from the instrument. Maybe Sullywally should make this slider 1/2 beat shorter, and then make another 1/2 slider to accommodate the next 2 hits. The reason why I chose this instead of 2 slider is so that I could make 01:16:325 (7) - circle and give a kick to 01:16:475 (8) - I'll consider this suggestion tho
01:25:775 (1) - The same kind of error over here. Is this and the last maybe-error intentional?
Sorry for the super late response

Update

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from your modding queue, m4m request!

General

i think you should probably disable countdown, but if you want to keep it then enable countdown for HOS' Easy too
maybe put the same combo colours for the Hyper and Insane diffs too

Metaku's Hyper

00:55:475 (2) - stack this on 00:54:275 (2) - properly and fix blanket on 00:54:875 (1) -
00:58:475 (1,2,3) - this feels kinda out of place, how about make it a 1.5/1 repeat slider? so it starts on 1 repeats on 2 and ends on 3's slider-tail
01:39:350 (1) - this spinner feels kinda anti-climatic since the intensity of the song is getting higher and it's building up to the chorus/kiai, maybe you wanna map this part?

Wally's Insane

00:17:675 (1) - stack on 00:17:075 (2) -
00:17:675 (1,2) - just a suggestion, perhaps you can map this part like you how did previously here 00:17:075 (2,3,4,5) - i think it represents the music better, unless you really want to follow the kicks in the background
00:18:575 (2,2,2,3) - the stacks look slightly off, assuming you wanted to stack these on 00:17:975 (2) - (actually this is the last time i'll be talking about stacks cos it seems like it's my problem; it's always very slightly off)
00:20:675 (5) - i suggest breaking this into 2 1/2 sliders
00:48:875 (1,2) - may wanna space these 2 further apart, now it looks like (1) extends to the blue tick 00:49:400 -
01:00:275 (2,1,2) - since the flute(?) sound starts on 01:00:575 - i recommend making 01:00:275 (2) - a 3/4 slider and start the stream on 01:00:575 - so it'd be like a 5 note stream. something like this 00:51:575 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - think itll represent the music better
01:08:975 (5) - hmm i think this flows better https://puu.sh/vohdh/f33ac5b1b5.png the break in flow from 5 -> 1 helps emphasize the strong sound
01:14:150 - there's a relatively strong sound here, perhaps map it too
01:30:275 (6) - split this into 2 repeat sliders maybe?
01:30:875 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - oooh nice i like the flow here
01:39:275 (3,3) - okay this stack is very off haha xd
01:52:475 (3) - 01:57:275 (5) - not sure about the 3/4 slider, you're skipping a relatively strong sound on the red tick

Extra

00:40:475 (2,3,4,5,6) - cool stream, but i recommend lowering the spacing very slightly, since the stream spacing for this is slightly higher than the stream before and after, and there isnt anything different going on in the music
00:41:525 (1,2,3,4,5) - hmm perhaps make the shape a bit nicer
00:47:075 (3,4) - i think you can increase the spacing for this to something like this 00:44:075 (1,2) - 00:44:675 (1,2) - 00:47:675 (1,2) - it'll be more consistent this way
00:56:900 (4,5) - maybe make these touch too like the others?
00:58:475 (1) - perhaps you wanna rotate this counterclockwise such that the flow from 5 -> 1 is smoother
01:00:875 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the 3/4 rhythm here is something new, mapping it like this makes it very hard for the players to read imo, because the active notes are 3/4 gap apart; not to mention the highly spaced 1/4 gap between 01:01:325 (3,4) - & 01:01:925 (6,1) which is even more unexpected imo: i recommend something like this instead, https://puu.sh/voxj1/cfc678895c.png, this gives the player time to react to the change
01:01:925 (4,1,2) - from 4 -> 1 is a 1/4 beat gap; and from 1 -> 2 is a 1/2 beat gap; but they look almost the same: try to make them different, i recommend lowering the spacing from 4->1
01:09:575 (2) - i dont think this repeat slider is needed, just make it normal 1/2 slider
maybe NC this 01:30:275 (3) - and 01:30:875 (5) - ; and take off the NC for 01:30:575 (1) - ; or you can follow what you did here 01:35:675 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) -
01:33:575 (5,6,7) - veryyyy minor, but make the spacing between these 3 constant
01:38:675 (1,2,3) - woah why the sudden increase in spacing for 2->3
01:39:275 (1,2,3) - also, the spacing difference between 1->2 and 2->3 is way too large, given that they're both 1/2 beat apart
01:46:475 (3,4,1) - both 1/2 beat apart, but compare 3->4 and 4->1: spacing between 4 -> 1 looks too large to me; music isn't really getting significantly intensified - probably should lower spacing from 4->1
while you're at it, probably should lower spacing for 01:46:775 (1,2,3,4) - it's like a sudden increase in spacing for these 4 notes and it goes back to normal after that
01:51:125 (2,3,4) - flow from 1->2 feels weird here, perhaps ctrl+g this
01:58:775 (1,2) - woah this spacing, it's only 1/4 man

well that's all from me, good luck with your mapset! i had fun testplaying these maps

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