Chino(Minase Inori) - Okashi na yume o Ohitotsu... · forum

- Skanbis -

40 posts

Joined July 2016

Topic Starter

- Skanbis - 2017-02-16T09:54:33+00:00

FuruSatori wrote:
oh also, the correct timing offset is 1,099

just move everything by 40ms

Thanks for the big feedback! and GD!
At the timing I did not have a Problem

- Skanbis -

40 posts

Joined July 2016

Topic Starter

- Skanbis - 2017-02-16T09:55:11+00:00

Asuka_- wrote:
Hi~ finished^^
https://puu.sh/u5v9R/bb2d99f7a6.rar

↑ fixed offset (1099)

Good map! Thank you!

- Skanbis -

40 posts

Joined July 2016

Topic Starter

- Skanbis - 2017-02-16T09:57:08+00:00

Okashi and Insane is Incomplete
Wait I editing map

Riana

Beatmap Nominator

1,210 posts

Joined October 2012

Riana 2017-02-17T05:16:52+00:00

[Okashi]
00:03:841 (1) - 딱히 음이 없는듯한데 오버매핑인듯 하네요. 00:03:670 (4) 여기부터 슬라로 이으심이?
00:07:613 (5) - 00:07:270 (3) 이거 블랭킷하려 하신거면 어긋났는데 정확히 맞추시는게..
00:07:956 (1,2,3,4) - 뒤의 1/4 파트를 위해 여긴 1/2로 이런 리듬을 잡아주신듯한데 보컬이 크게 들려서 1/2이 좀 어색하네요.. 그냥 보컬 맞춰서 매핑해주시는게 좋을거같아요. 00:08:641 (3,4) 이거랑 00:10:013 (5,6) 이게 유사한듯한데 비교 해보심이
00:09:327 (1,3) - 음이나 보컬이 있진 않은듯해서 노트는 이상한듯요?
00:12:241 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 점프가 규칙성이 없어보이는데 노트 배열에 질서랄까.. 노트들이 (꼭 순서대로인 노트끼리 아니라도) 모양을 형성하며 배열되거나 그런게 필요한데.. 다른맵들 참고해보세요. 저도 처음엔 막 뒀다고 생각했는데 그게 아니에요
00:15:841 (4) - 슬라로 하기엔 00:16:184 (1) 여기까지 1/4로 음이 쭉 이어져서 놓친 음이 좀 많은거같네요. 보컬이 끊긴 부분이라 음이 분명히 들리기도 하고요.
00:16:184 (1) - 보컬이 분명하게 들려서 이런 리버스 슬라이더로 처리하면 어색하네요. 00:16:870 (3,4,5) 여기같이 두시는게 좋은듯한..
00:18:670 (3) - 여기에도 음있는데 꽤 뚜렷히 들려서 안잡아두니 어색하네요

마저쓸게요 일단 여기까지 보고..
리듬 선정에선 초반에 좀 언급한거 외엔 거의 오버매핑같은거나 언더매핑 심한듯한거만 적어놨어요

makisokk

928 posts

Joined August 2013

makisokk 2017-02-17T19:13:43+00:00

Hello my friend said that my map is shit, and asked to remake

Rework GD

osu file format v14

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[Metadata]
Title:Okashina yume wo o hitotsu douzo
TitleUnicode:お菓子な夢をおひとつどうぞ♪
Artist:Chino (CV.Minase Inori)
ArtistUnicode:チノ (CV.水瀬いのり)
Creator:- Skanbis -
Version:Fimoree's Hard
Source:Gochuumon wa Usagi Desuka Character Song Series
Tags:Gochuumon wa Usagi Desuka
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Fretzi

174 posts

Joined April 2015

Fretzi 2017-02-18T03:37:25+00:00

hey there, from #modreqs
Because I noticed no one has modded Normal yet, I thought I'll give you a mod on that difficulty.

00:03:841 (1) - try Ctrl+H
00:27:156 (1) - move this a bit further away from the previous slider, timing differences should be made obvious in a Normal difficulty
00:32:299 (5,1) - I would make the circle come first and then the slider https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7353536
00:44:299 (1,2,3,4) - keep the spacing consistent, no need to increase it in a Normal
01:13:784 (5) - add new combo
01:15:156 (1) - remove new combo
01:16:184 (2) - not a very good flow coming from the previous slider, my suggestion would be move the slider lower and move the circle above https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7353588
01:20:641 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - too many hitcircles in a row for a Normal, you should replace atleast two with a slider
01:22:699 (3,4,5) - this is too confusing for new players, just try a circle and a full beat repeat slider https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7353621
01:34:699 (4,5) - replace those two with a slider
01:35:384 - here should clearly be a hitcircle
01:37:441 (1,1,1) - no reason for the new combos

Really nice map, good luck

- Skanbis -

40 posts

Joined July 2016

Topic Starter

- Skanbis - 2017-02-18T04:17:49+00:00

Fretzi wrote:
hey there, from #modreqs
Because I noticed no one has modded Normal yet, I thought I'll give you a mod on that difficulty.

00:03:841 (1) - try Ctrl+H I think it is better before.
00:27:156 (1) - move this a bit further away from the previous slider, timing differences should be made obvious in a Normal difficulty OK Fixed
00:32:299 (5,1) - I would make the circle come first and then the slider https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7353536 fixed
00:44:299 (1,2,3,4) - keep the spacing consistent, no need to increase it in a Normal fixed
01:13:784 (5) - add new combo ^
01:15:156 (1) - remove new combo ^
01:16:184 (2) - not a very good flow coming from the previous slider, my suggestion would be move the slider lower and move the circle above https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7353588 fixed
01:20:641 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - too many hitcircles in a row for a Normal, you should replace atleast two with a slider fixed
01:22:699 (3,4,5) - this is too confusing for new players, just try a circle and a full beat repeat slider https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7353621 I was troubled here. Your thoughts are good. fixed
01:34:699 (4,5) - replace those two with a slider fixed
01:35:384 - here should clearly be a hitcircle fixed
01:37:441 (1,1,1) - no reason for the new combos fixed

Really nice map, good luck

Thank you! modding! have fun!

Asuka_-

1,459 posts

Joined February 2016

Asuka_- 2017-02-18T09:31:08+00:00

meta mod

Metadata
Romanised title : "Okashina yume wo o hitotsu douzo" (unrankable)→ Okashina yume o Ohitotsu douzo (rankable)

Songs with Japanese titles must use the Modified Hepburn method of romanisation in the "Romanised Title" field. (Ranking Criteria)

「を」→ "o"

and please add guset mapper in tags.

gl~(*^^)v

Norman

Norman 2017-02-19T11:43:26+00:00

[General]

Asuka_-'s insane 혼자 Preview Point(노란선)가 다르네요. 다른 난이도랑 같게 설정해주세요!

[Normal]

00:25:784 (2) - 슬라이더끝을 00:26:299(빨간선) 에 맞추는게 어떠신가요?
사진

00:36:070 (3,4,5) - 이 부분 박자를 이렇게 하시는건 어떠신가요?
사진+예제

위　　타이밍
아래　예제

00:46:699 (6,7,8) - ^ (위와 마찬가지)
사진+예제

위　　타이밍
아래　예제

01:22:699 (3,4,5) - ^
사진+예제

위　　타이밍
아래　예제
[img]http://puu.sh/ua3nv/2798f9a76a.jpg/img]

01:36:413 (3) - 여기도 슬라이더 를 빨간선에 끝내시는게 어떠신가요?
사진

01:38:470 (1) - 녹색선 추가해서 음량을 낮추는게 어떠신가요?

[Insane]

01:19:956 (5) - 속도가 줄어드는걸 쉽게 확인 할 수 있게 NC 하시는게 어떠신가요?

01:24:499 - 여기에 노트를 추가 하시는게 어떠신가요

Vanillas

397 posts

Joined October 2014

Vanillas 2017-02-19T12:33:35+00:00

Hi~ from my queue

Chino❤

General

bg "ueg3.jpg" is 1336x768, I suggest using 1366x768 (16:9).
kiai time of your own diffs should be same. https://puu.sh/ua3Eq/7d17f92af1.png
maybe you need a diff between Normal (1.87 stars) and Fimoree's Hard (3.7 stars)
Audio preview time conflicts with Asuka_-'s insane diff.
Unsnapped kiai timing lines: https://puu.sh/ua4oT/6b270ce3e5.png

Normal

Check DS: https://puu.sh/ua4ua/7a170990bb.png
00:05:213 (3) - NC here not 00:03:841 (1,1) -
00:08:299 missing note.
00:21:670 (1) - why using such a long slider here ? just do as what you did at 00:18:927 (1,2) - .
00:43:613 I suggest making it clickable but not end of slider, and also NC here.
00:46:013 (5) - ^ , NC is needed here.
01:35:384 (5,1) - I dont think its a good idea to stack them.
01:41:041 silent or vol. 5% with a green light.
Check blanket. eg: 00:30:927 (3,4) - 00:44:984 (3,4) - 01:23:384 (4,5) -

Fimoree's Hard

SV 0.6 and SV 0.75 --> SV 0.75
AR 7.5 ?
00:10:356 missing note. end 00:10:013 (7) - here and add a note at 00:10:527.
00:15:499 missing note.
00:15:670 (1) - no NC 00:18:927 (4) - NC 00:21:670 (8) - NC
00:42:927 (1,2,4) - 01:20:641 (1,2,3) - 01:22:699 (3) - not looking good as they stick together
missing not at 00:53:556 and 00:53:899. consider changing 00:53:213 (1,2) - to sliders.
00:49:784 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - though the music is soft this part, its too easy for a hard diff. try to make this part harder.
01:21:156 missing note. Ctrl + G 01:20:984 (3,4) - to change rhythm ?
01:28:356 and 01:28:527 missing notes. though you're following vocal the beat is so strong that I suggest you add notes. Also 01:29:899 etc...
I suggest you add a spinner at 01:38:556

Asuka_-'s insane

00:03:670 (1) - replace it with a slider? start at 00:03:499. and also 00:06:413 (1,1) -
00:24:070 (6,7) - jump here is a little far away from each other.
00:36:584 (1,2,3) - a suggestion: https://puu.sh/ua6g9/e665b283b6.png
00:55:099 add a note here stack with end of 00:54:584 (1) - ? also 00:57:841
00:56:470 missing note, also 00:59:213
01:23:727 (3) - remove it ?
01:26:812 (5,6,7) - suggestion: use stream and kick ? https://puu.sh/ua6sK/bb7a5dfce7.png
suggestion: add a spinner at 01:38:556. Try to have at least one spinner in each difficulty to create variety in the map and fluctuation among scores.

Insane

overmap someplace and also missing notes somewhere. though you can do this as it is Insane, be sure it's reasonable. eg: 00:21:156 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - 00:29:727 (1,2,3) - 00:32:813 (3,4,5) - 00:37:613 (1,2,3) - etc... and missing note 00:59:213 00:59:556 etc...
missing note at 00:12:584.
00:18:584 missing note
00:35:385 (9,1) - too close
00:53:213 (3,4) - I do not hear so many sound here.
Check NC. eg: no NC at 01:10:184 (1) - but NC at 01:11:041 (6) - etc...
01:24:499 missing note
missing note from 01:26:813 (2) - to 01:27:498 (1) -

GL~

- Skanbis -

40 posts

Joined July 2016

Topic Starter

- Skanbis - 2017-02-19T13:10:42+00:00

Norman wrote:
[General]
Asuka_-'s insane 혼자 Preview Point(노란선)가 다르네요. 다른 난이도랑 같게 설정해주세요!
수정했습니다!

[Normal]
00:25:784 (2) - 슬라이더끝을 00:26:299(빨간선) 에 맞추는게 어떠신가요?노멀이라 빨간선은 되도록이면 사용하지 않으려고 했습니다.
사진
00:36:070 (3,4,5) - 이 부분 박자를 이렇게 하시는건 어떠신가요? 위와 같은 이유로 사용하지 않았습니다 .
사진+예제

위　　타이밍
아래　예제
00:46:699 (6,7,8) - ^ (위와 마찬가지) ^
사진+예제

위　　타이밍
아래　예제
01:22:699 (3,4,5) - ^ ^
사진+예제

위　　타이밍
아래　예제
[img]http://puu.sh/ua3nv/2798f9a76a.jpg/img]
01:36:413 (3) - 여기도 슬라이더 를 빨간선에 끝내시는게 어떠신가요?
사진
01:38:470 (1) - 녹색선 추가해서 음량을 낮추는게 어떠신가요? 수정했습니다!

[Insane]
01:19:956 (5) - 속도가 줄어드는걸 쉽게 확인 할 수 있게 NC 하시는게 어떠신가요? 수정했습니다!
01:24:499 - 여기에 노트를 추가 하시는게 어떠신가요 추가하니까 좋네요 ㅎㅎ

모딩감사합니다! 즐거운 시간되세요!

- Skanbis -

40 posts

Joined July 2016

Topic Starter

- Skanbis - 2017-02-19T13:39:04+00:00

Vanillas wrote:
Hi~ from my queue

Chino❤
General
bg "ueg3.jpg" is 1336x768, I suggest using 1366x768 (16:9). fixes
kiai time of your own diffs should be same. https://puu.sh/ua3Eq/7d17f92af1.png fixes
maybe you need a diff between Normal (1.87 stars) and Fimoree's Hard (3.7 stars)
Audio preview time conflicts with Asuka_-'s insane diff. fixes
Unsnapped kiai timing lines: https://puu.sh/ua4oT/6b270ce3e5.png fixes
Normal
Check DS: https://puu.sh/ua4ua/7a170990bb.png
00:05:213 (3) - NC here not 00:03:841 (1,1) - fixed!
00:08:299 missing note. fixed!
00:21:670 (1) - why using such a long slider here ? just do as what you did at 00:18:927 (1,2) - .Good Idea Fixed
00:43:613 I suggest making it clickable but not end of slider, and also NC here. I think it is better before. I think that if I fix it I will be disturbed by the rhythm.
00:46:013 (5) - ^ , NC is needed here. ^
01:35:384 (5,1) - I dont think its a good idea to stack them. fixed!
01:41:041 silent or vol. 5% with a green light. fixed!
Check blanket. eg: 00:30:927 (3,4) - 00:44:984 (3,4) - 01:23:384 (4,5) -

Insane
overmap someplace and also missing notes somewhere. though you can do this as it is Insane, be sure it's reasonable. eg: 00:21:156 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - 00:29:727 (1,2,3) - 00:32:813 (3,4,5) - 00:37:613 (1,2,3) - etc... and missing note 00:59:213 00:59:556 etc... - I will think more and modding it.
missing note at 00:12:584. I made time to relax. but I will fix it when I need it
00:18:584 missing note ^
00:35:385 (9,1) - too close ^
00:53:213 (3,4) - I do not hear so many sound here. fixed
Check NC. eg: no NC at 01:10:184 (1) - but NC at 01:11:041 (6) - etc...
01:24:499 missing note fixed
missing note from 01:26:813 (2) - to 01:27:498 (1) -
GL~

Thank you very much!!
Have a good time!

makisokk

928 posts

Joined August 2013

makisokk 2017-02-19T14:21:14+00:00

Vanillas wrote:
Hi~ from my queue Hi

Fimoree's Hard
SV 0.6 and SV 0.75 --> SV 0.75 Fixed
AR 7.5 ? I can also try
00:10:356 missing note. end 00:10:013 (7) - here and add a note at 00:10:527. Fixed
00:15:499 missing note. did slider
00:15:670 (1) - no NC 00:18:927 (4) - NC 00:21:670 (8) - NC Fixed
00:42:927 (1,2,4) - 01:20:641 (1,2,3) - 01:22:699 (3) - not looking good as they stick together I remap this part
missing not at 00:53:556 and 00:53:899. consider changing 00:53:213 (1,2) - to sliders. Fixed
00:49:784 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - though the music is soft this part, its too easy for a hard diff. try to make this part harder. I tried to complicate this part
01:21:156 missing note. Ctrl + G 01:20:984 (3,4) - to change rhythm ? I remap this part
01:28:356 and 01:28:527 missing notes. though you're following vocal the beat is so strong that I suggest you add notes. Also 01:29:899 etc... I tried to replace them with sliders, I do not know whether it is a good idea
I suggest you add a spinner at 01:38:556 Create spinner
Thanks for the mod

Rework GD V2

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 65384
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 12975
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.200001

[Metadata]
Title:Okashina yume o Ohitotsu douzo
TitleUnicode:お菓子な夢をおひとつどうぞ♪
Artist:Chino (CV.Minase Inori)
ArtistUnicode:チノ (CV.水瀬いのり)
Creator:- Skanbis -
Version:Fimoree's Hard
Source:Gochuumon wa Usagi Desuka Character Song Series
Tags:Gochuumon wa Usagi Desuka fimoree FuruSatori Asuka_-
BeatmapID:1215165
BeatmapSetID:551753

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Asuka_-

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Joined February 2016

Asuka_- 2017-02-19T16:03:04+00:00

Vanillas wrote:
Hi~ from my queue

Asuka_-'s insane
00:03:670 (1) - replace it with a slider? start at 00:03:499. and also 00:06:413 (1,1) - keep it. emphasize vocal
00:24:070 (6,7) - jump here is a little far away from each other. ok change spacing
00:36:584 (1,2,3) - a suggestion: https://puu.sh/ua6g9/e665b283b6.png i think the flow is fun... (to be honest, It doesn’t matter xD) hmm... keep for now.
00:55:099 add a note here stack with end of 00:54:584 (1) - ? also 00:57:841 no
00:56:470 missing note, also 00:59:213 intentional.cuz slow part
01:23:727 (3) - remove it ? no
01:26:812 (5,6,7) - suggestion: use stream and kick ? https://puu.sh/ua6sK/bb7a5dfce7.png okay Nice(^^♪
suggestion: add a spinner at 01:38:556. Try to have at least one spinner in each difficulty to create variety in the map and fluctuation among scores. ok

Thanks^^

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[Metadata]
Title:Okashina yume o Ohitotsu douzo
TitleUnicode:お菓子な夢をおひとつどうぞ♪
Artist:Chino (CV.Minase Inori)
ArtistUnicode:チノ (CV.水瀬いのり)
Creator:- Skanbis -
Version:Asuka_-'s insane
Source:Gochuumon wa Usagi Desuka Character Song Series
Tags:Gochuumon wa Usagi Desuka fimoree FuruSatori Asuka_-
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and preview point fixed. thanks.

Ryuusei Aika

Elite Mapper

1,085 posts

Joined January 2016

Ryuusei Aika 2017-02-22T01:21:24+00:00

from queue

General
no bg?
kiai set from 01:05:556 - to 01:27:156 - is better(if someone dont like to then at least snapped the kiai start and end)
i think you can disable widescreen support for there have no sb or video
source should be ご注文はうさぎですか？？
the diff gap between hard and first insane is quite large. maybe you need another insane for ~4.5*

Normal
not intended to constant ds?
00:05:213 (3) - nc should be here imo
00:57:327 (5) - ^
00:07:956 (1,2) - as here has a drum beat at 00:08:299 - , so i think change this part to something like 00:02:470 (1,2) - or 00:05:213 (3,1) - is better
00:11:899 (1) - in a normal diff between a spinner and a clickable object we shoule have at least a 2-beat distance, so i think delete this spinner and change 00:11:727 (7) - into a 1/2 slider is a nice choice
00:25:784 (2) - this S looks not quite central symmetry, how about improve the shape a bit?
00:40:870 (1,2) - blanket?
00:44:984 (3,4) - ^

Hard
ar8 is way too high imo. try something like 7 or at least 7.5
00:04:013 (3,4) - a rhythm like 1/2 slider - 1 note would be better
00:08:984 (4,5,6) - used the changed rhythm at 00:03:499 (1,2,3,4) - would be better (follow the vocal "cha")
00:25:784 (1,2,3,4) - looks not quite good, how about make them as a rectangle or square?
00:42:927 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:32:984 (4) - stack with the end of 00:33:670 (3) - would be cute
01:07:613 (5,7) - blanket?
01:12:756 (6,8) - ^
01:13:099 (7,9) - ^
01:26:813 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - really hard for hard lol how about change them into 2 reverse sliders
01:37:784 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - rhythm is a little weird, try put two reverse slider respectively at 01:37:784 (2) - and 01:38:127 (3) -

Asuka
00:33:670 (5,1) - stack them together?
01:23:556 (2) - changed into a 1/2 slider? as what you did in 01:23:213 (1) -

Insane
00:50:127 (6) - put this near 00:49:785 (4) - for a better flow
00:53:213 (3,4,5,6,7) - this overmap isnt quite good imo as only the white line have sounds
01:36:927 (3) - maybe unrankable, for each slider we should see its start and end

gl

Asuka_-

1,459 posts

Joined February 2016

Asuka_- 2017-02-22T04:21:24+00:00

im not good at english.

hi - Skanbis -

my map isnt updated...
and where are custom hitsounds i use... (soft-hitclap5.wav soft-hitwhitsle5.wav etc..)

if you caused an accident, please download this as update.

good song & good mapset!! I'm rooting for you.

Ryuusei Aika wrote:
Asuka
00:33:670 (5,1) - stack them together? no
01:23:556 (2) - changed into a 1/2 slider? as what you did in 01:23:213 (1) - remove clap. (already fixed)

Thanks!!

makisokk

928 posts

Joined August 2013

makisokk 2017-02-22T10:14:23+00:00

Ryuusei Aika wrote:
from queue

Hard
ar8 is way too high imo. try something like 7 or at least 7.5 Fixed
00:04:013 (3,4) - a rhythm like 1/2 slider - 1 note would be better Rework
00:08:984 (4,5,6) - used the changed rhythm at 00:03:499 (1,2,3,4) - would be better (follow the vocal "cha") Fixed
00:25:784 (1,2,3,4) - looks not quite good, how about make them as a rectangle or square? Well, trey square
00:42:927 (1,2,3,4) - ^ I do trapeze
00:32:984 (4) - stack with the end of 00:33:670 (3) - would be cute Sorry don't understand
01:07:613 (5,7) - blanket? I do
01:12:756 (6,8) - ^ ^
01:13:099 (7,9) - ^ ^
01:26:813 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - really hard for hard lol how about change them into 2 reverse sliders I do 2 reverse sliders
01:37:784 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - rhythm is a little weird, try put two reverse slider respectively at 01:37:784 (2) - and 01:38:127 (3) - I do not think that there is much needed as the strong sounds interrupt their
gl Thanks for the mod

Rework GD V3

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:お菓子な夢をおひとつどうぞ♪
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ArtistUnicode:チノ (CV.水瀬いのり)
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- Skanbis -

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- Skanbis - 2017-02-22T10:25:41+00:00

Ryuusei Aika wrote:
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General
no bg? It was missing for a while. Fixed
kiai set from 01:05:556 - to 01:27:156 - is better(if someone dont like to then at least snapped the kiai start and end) Fixed
i think you can disable widescreen support for there have no sb or video
source should be ご注文はうさぎですか？？ Fixed
the diff gap between hard and first insane is quite large. maybe you need another insane for ~4.5*

Normal
not intended to constant ds?
00:05:213 (3) - nc should be here imo Fixed
00:57:327 (5) - ^ Fixed
00:07:956 (1,2) - as here has a drum beat at 00:08:299 - , so i think change this part to something like 00:02:470 (1,2) - or 00:05:213 (3,1) - is better Fixed
00:11:899 (1) - in a normal diff between a spinner and a clickable object we shoule have at least a 2-beat distance, so i think delete this spinner and change 00:11:727 (7) - into a 1/2 slider is a nice choice I think Spinner is good. and "2-beat distance" this Fixed
00:25:784 (2) - this S looks not quite central symmetry, how about improve the shape a bit? Fixed
00:40:870 (1,2) - blanket? Yes I am correcting the ambiguity.
00:44:984 (3,4) - ^

Insane
00:50:127 (6) - put this near 00:49:785 (4) - for a better flow Fixed
00:53:213 (3,4,5,6,7) - this overmap isnt quite good imo as only the white line have sounds Fixed
01:36:927 (3) - maybe unrankable, for each slider we should see its start and end Fixed

gl

Doyak

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Doyak 2017-02-23T10:34:02+00:00

안녕하세요. 뉴비 매퍼신 거 같아서 한 번 봐드리러 오긴 했습니다만, 앞으로는 누군가에게 요청을 하기 전에 유저 페이지를 먼저 꼭 확인하실 것을 부탁드립니다. 저도 제 유저 페이지에 눈에 띄게 모딩을 닫았다고 써놓았는데 무작정 요청해오셔서 안타까웠습니다.

결론부터 말씀드리자면, 아직 이 맵은 랭크가 되기에는 많이 모자라다고 생각합니다. 하나하나 다 집어드리기는 어렵고, 최고 난이도에서 큼직큼직한 것 위주로 전체적인 걸 설명드릴게요.

전체적으로 맵에 구조성이 없고 박자도 들쭉날쭉한 모습입니다. 여기저기 랜덤 점프도 많이 보이고요. 무엇을 하려는지는 대충 보이지만 제대로 표현이 안 된 모습이네요.

00:02:470 (1,2,3,4,5) - 우선 여기를 보면 거리를 작게 고정한 상태에서 움직이고 있는데 이는 뒤에서 00:03:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 00:07:956 (1,2,3,4,5) - 이런 식으로 디스턴스가 확 증가한 것과 대비됩니다. 그리고 지금과 같은 상태에서 과연 00:02:984 (3) - 이 보컬 소리에 제대로 된 강조가 되었는지도 의문이고요. 같은 소리 중에 유일하게 00:05:213 (1) - 만 1/1 슬라이더를 쓴 점도 비일관적이고, 00:07:956 (1,2) - 가 슬라이더-서클이 아닌 서클-슬라이더를 써서 굳이 엇박으로 쓰인 것도 로직이 없어 보입니다.

00:10:699 (1,2) - 갑자기 여기서만 슬라이더 배속이 들어간 이유는 무엇인지요? 맵의 텐션은 오히려 00:11:899 - 까지 쭉 올라가는데 00:11:556 (4) - 에서 도로 줄어드는 것도 이상합니다. 00:12:241 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 맵 전체적으로 나타나는 문제지만, 배치에 어떤 구조가 없이 매우 랜덤한 모양으로 찍혀 있는 것이 보입니다. 높은 퀄리티를 지향한다면 이런 점프 덩어리 하나하나에도 제대로 된 패턴을 만드는 것이 중요합니다.

00:13:441 (1,2,3,4) - 음악적으로 제법 텐션이 높은 구간이 시작됐는데, 오히려 움직임은 감소한 모습입니다. 인트로 부분이랑 비교해보시면 쉽습니다. 게다가 최고 난이도임에도 겨우 1/2 슬라이더를 써서 음악을 표현할 정도로 박자가 그렇게 단순한 구간도 아니고요. 어느 소리에 초점을 맞춰서 매핑할 것인지를 보다 명료하게 할 필요가 있습니다. 추가적으로, 00:13:784 (2,3) - 가 붙은 모습은 그다지 안정적이지 않군요. 00:13:441 (1,2,3,4) - 이 네 노트가 모두 균형을 이루는 방법이 무엇일지 생각해봅시다.

00:16:184 (1) - 이거랑 00:16:870 (3,4,5) - 는 같은 소리인데 하나는 겨우 1/2 리버스 슬라이더고 하나는 널찍한 점프입니다. 일관성이 없습니다.

그 외에도 이쪽 구간은 보컬이 매우 절제되어 표현되었는데 전체적으로 보컬을 따라가는 노래에서 최고 난이도로서 적절한 표현인지는 의문입니다.

00:23:899 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 상당히 어색한 3연타들입니다. 이 1/4 소리가 00:23:213 - 부터 이어져 온 소리인데 휴식 후 갑툭튀했다는 점에서 드럼을 제대로 표현했다고 보기 어렵습니다. 물론 저는 00:23:899 - 에 멜로디 소리가 있어서 여기서부터 노트를 시작하신 건 줄은 알지만, 그 소리를 표현할 생각이었다면 1/2만을 써서 표현했어야 합니다. 지금 상태는 어느 쪽에 초점을 두고 싶은 것인지 전혀 알 수 없는 모양입니다.

00:26:641 (1) - 여기에 1/4 슬라이더가 쓰일 이유가 전혀 없습니다. 드럼은 확실한 1/2이고, 배경음에 띵띵하는 소리는 1/3입니다. 게다가 00:26:813 - 가 00:26:641 - 보다 중요한 소리이기 때문에 이 음을 점프로서 강조해줄 필요가 있습니다.

00:29:041 (3,4) - 여기서 이렇게 엇박을 쓸 이유가 없습니다. 00:27:670 (3,4,5) - 랑 똑같이 하시는 게 일관성도 있고 좋습니다.

00:29:727 (5,6,7) - 매우 랜덤한 3연타입니다. 물론 이게 오버매핑은 아닙니다만, 주변 어디에서도 표현하지 않았던 조그마한 소리들을 다른 소리들이 사라졌다고 갑자기 연타로 뿌리는 건 맵의 초점을 흐리고 밸런스를 무너뜨립니다. 다시 말해서, 지금 이 부분에서 중점을 두고 싶은 부분은 저 작은 소리들이 전혀 아닐텐데 굳이 연타를 넣어서 맵의 중심이 보컬이나 주요 드럼이 아닌 저 작은 소리들에 쏠리게 된다는 겁니다.

00:30:927 (3,4,5,6) - 보컬이 매우 강한 구간이니까 00:31:099 - 에 1/2 슬라이더가 들어가는 박자로 표현하는 것이 좋습니다. 지금은 어디에 초점을 두고 싶은 것인지가 보이지 않습니다.

00:32:299 - 뉴콤보가 많이 흐트러진 모습입니다. 00:30:241 - 의 보컬에 맞추어 뉴콤하는 것부터 무너지기 시작했었는데, 기본적으로 노래가 나뉘는 구간은 00:29:899 - 00:31:270 - 00:32:641 - 등의 다운비트니 이쪽에 맞추어 콤보를 설정하는 것이 좋습니다. 물론 보컬에 맞추어 콤보를 설정하는 방법도 있지만, 그러려면 보컬의 구절을 정확히 찾아서 일관적으로 뉴콤을 해줘야 되는데 지금은 그런 게 없이 적당히 끊어놓은 것으로 보입니다. 맵 전체적으로 일관성이 없이 거의 무너져 있으니 어떻게 해야 할지 생각해보시기 바랍니다.

00:32:641 (3,4,5,6,1) - 점프가 4에서 이미 시작되고 있는데 이게 5,6,1의 점프에 섞여들어가면서 이 점프들이 무얼 의미하는지 알 수 없게 되어버렸습니다. 5,6,1의 보컬을 보다 확실히 구분해주려면 4에는 그 차이를 명확하게 줘야 합니다. 점프 패턴에서 분리하고, 쓸데없는 강조가 들어가지 않게 거리 조절도 해야겠죠.

1/2인 00:37:613 (1,2) - 는 앞의 1/1인 00:36:584 (1,2,3) - 보다 훨씬 작은 소리인데도 맞먹는 크기의 점프가 들어갔습니다. 뭔가 강조점이 이상하네요.

00:38:127 (1,2,3,4,1) - 까지는 보컬에 맞추어가는 것이 보이는데 00:39:499 (2,3,4,5) - 는 무엇을 위한 엇박 비트인지 모르겠습니다. 엇박마다 강한 소리가 있기는 한데, 지금 맵 전체적으로 그곳에 초점을 두고 있는 것이 아닙니다.

00:41:556 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 여기에 풀점프를 넣을 만한 이유가 없습니다. 노트의 한 비트는 노래에 위치한 그 비트에 대응된다는 것을 명심하세요. 저기 보컬이 뭔가 임팩트가 있어보인다고 해서 그 소리가 모든 1/2에 다 있는 것이 아닙니다. 구체적으로 따라가려는 음악적 요소에 맞추어 리듬을 짜야 합니다.

00:43:613 - 한 번 더 짚고 넘어가는데 들리시다시피 심벌 소리가 있고, 보시다시피 한 마디의 시작점인 다운비트입니다. 그러므로 노트도 이곳이 새로운 시작의 기준점이 되는 것이 마땅합니다. 00:42:927 (1,2,3) - 이렇게 패턴을 짤 것이 아니라, 00:43:441 - 까지의 패턴과 00:43:613 - 이후의 패턴에서 변화가 나타나야 한다는 이야기입니다.

어... 이거 쓰다보니 끝이 없겠는데 더 큰 것만 몇 개 더 쓰고 마칠게요.

00:50:641 (2) - 강하지 않은 1/2에 점프가 있네요. 그 외에도 구간 전체적으로 이런 불필요한 노트가 많습니다. 음악적으로 매우 느린 느낌을 주는 구간인 데에 비해서 스케일도 너무 크고, 00:51:156 (4,5,6,7) - 00:53:213 (1,2,3,4,5) - 와 같은 점프는 그야말로 점프 그 자체만을 위한, 노래와는 아무 연관도 없는 것들입니다.

01:00:070 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 이건 매우 심각하다고 말씀을 드리고 싶습니다. 이 구간에서 큰 소리라고는 1/1 단위의 드럼들 뿐입니다. 1/2은 극히 작을 뿐이고요. 보컬이 높은 소리로 지르고 있다고 해서 1/2 단위의 점프가 정당화될까요? 그렇지 않습니다. 기본적으로 노트 하나는 하나의 비트에 대응이 되어야 합니다. 전체적인 분위기만 표현을 할 거면 애당초 오스가 '리듬'게임일 필요도 없고 맵이 '비트'로 구성될 필요도 없습니다.

01:05:041 (1,2,3) - 역시 마찬가지로 1/4이 쓰일 필요가 없습니다. 소리는 분명한 1/2입니다.

01:10:184 (4,1) - 갑자기 안티점프와 함께 1/1 갭이 나타나는데 노래의 흐름을 대단히 끊어버릴 뿐더러 보컬이 거기서 딱 끝나는 게 아니라 더 지르고 있다는 느낌을 전혀 주지 못합니다.

01:10:527 (1,2,3,4,5) - 실제로 연타를 치기 시작하는 부분이 파란 틱에 있어서 조금 혼란을 줄 수 있는 부분입니다. 더군다나 저 소리가 저 빨간 틱에서 시작하는 것도 아닌데 굳이 여기서 갑자기 연타를 넣을 이유도 없고요. 차라리 01:10:356 - 부터 1/4을 시작했다면 나았겠네요.

01:26:470 (7,8) - 독립된 비트가 전혀 없는데 서클을 넣은 건 이상합니다.

01:31:441 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 주변의 다른 노트들과 스케일을 비교해보세요. 뭔가 너무 튀지 않나요? 음악적으로 변화가 없는데 극단적으로 다른 표현법을 쓸 이유가 없습니다. 계속 드리는 말씀이지만, 무작정 점프를 넣기 전에 모든 1/2 소리들이 점프로 표현될 만한 소리인지를 확인하세요.

나머지는 대부분 거의 비슷한 문제들일 뿐이라 굳이 하나하나 설명드리진 않겠습니다. 간단하게 박자는 잡았지만 노트가 음악을 적극적으로 잘 따라가지 못하고 구조적으로도 거의 랜덤 배치를 보여 많이 모자라보이고 난이도 상승만을 위한 무리한 패턴들도 너무 많습니다.

이제부터 좀 가슴아픈 이야기를 하겠습니다. 우선 제 기준으로 1-10점에서 점수를 매기자면, 2.5점 드리겠습니다. 그야말로 타이밍 잡고 적당히 비트 잡아가면서 흐름만 구현한 수준입니다. 이 정도 맵으로는 아무리 모딩을 많이 받더라도 랭크에 보내는 건 어렵습니다. 이 노래로 랭크맵을 만들고 싶으시다면 현 상태에서 수정만 하는 것으로 시간을 투자할 것이 아니라, 먼저 실력을 많이 키운 뒤에 어느 정도 준비가 된 것 같으면 리맵을 하시는 게 좋다고 생각합니다.

긴 모딩 읽어주셔서 감사하고, 앞으로의 매핑에 도움이 많이 되었으면 좋겠습니다.

- Skanbis -

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- Skanbis - 2017-02-24T00:39:07+00:00

Doyak wrote:
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안녕하세요. 뉴비 매퍼신 거 같아서 한 번 봐드리러 오긴 했습니다만, 앞으로는 누군가에게 요청을 하기 전에 유저 페이지를 먼저 꼭 확인하실 것을 부탁드립니다. 저도 제 유저 페이지에 눈에 띄게 모딩을 닫았다고 써놓았는데 무작정 요청해오셔서 안타까웠습니다.

결론부터 말씀드리자면, 아직 이 맵은 랭크가 되기에는 많이 모자라다고 생각합니다. 하나하나 다 집어드리기는 어렵고, 최고 난이도에서 큼직큼직한 것 위주로 전체적인 걸 설명드릴게요.

전체적으로 맵에 구조성이 없고 박자도 들쭉날쭉한 모습입니다. 여기저기 랜덤 점프도 많이 보이고요. 무엇을 하려는지는 대충 보이지만 제대로 표현이 안 된 모습이네요.

00:02:470 (1,2,3,4,5) - 우선 여기를 보면 거리를 작게 고정한 상태에서 움직이고 있는데 이는 뒤에서 00:03:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 00:07:956 (1,2,3,4,5) - 이런 식으로 디스턴스가 확 증가한 것과 대비됩니다. 그리고 지금과 같은 상태에서 과연 00:02:984 (3) - 이 보컬 소리에 제대로 된 강조가 되었는지도 의문이고요. 같은 소리 중에 유일하게 00:05:213 (1) - 만 1/1 슬라이더를 쓴 점도 비일관적이고, 00:07:956 (1,2) - 가 슬라이더-서클이 아닌 서클-슬라이더를 써서 굳이 엇박으로 쓰인 것도 로직이 없어 보입니다.

00:10:699 (1,2) - 갑자기 여기서만 슬라이더 배속이 들어간 이유는 무엇인지요? 맵의 텐션은 오히려 00:11:899 - 까지 쭉 올라가는데 00:11:556 (4) - 에서 도로 줄어드는 것도 이상합니다. 00:12:241 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 맵 전체적으로 나타나는 문제지만, 배치에 어떤 구조가 없이 매우 랜덤한 모양으로 찍혀 있는 것이 보입니다. 높은 퀄리티를 지향한다면 이런 점프 덩어리 하나하나에도 제대로 된 패턴을 만드는 것이 중요합니다.

00:13:441 (1,2,3,4) - 음악적으로 제법 텐션이 높은 구간이 시작됐는데, 오히려 움직임은 감소한 모습입니다. 인트로 부분이랑 비교해보시면 쉽습니다. 게다가 최고 난이도임에도 겨우 1/2 슬라이더를 써서 음악을 표현할 정도로 박자가 그렇게 단순한 구간도 아니고요. 어느 소리에 초점을 맞춰서 매핑할 것인지를 보다 명료하게 할 필요가 있습니다. 추가적으로, 00:13:784 (2,3) - 가 붙은 모습은 그다지 안정적이지 않군요. 00:13:441 (1,2,3,4) - 이 네 노트가 모두 균형을 이루는 방법이 무엇일지 생각해봅시다.

00:16:184 (1) - 이거랑 00:16:870 (3,4,5) - 는 같은 소리인데 하나는 겨우 1/2 리버스 슬라이더고 하나는 널찍한 점프입니다. 일관성이 없습니다.

그 외에도 이쪽 구간은 보컬이 매우 절제되어 표현되었는데 전체적으로 보컬을 따라가는 노래에서 최고 난이도로서 적절한 표현인지는 의문입니다.

00:23:899 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 상당히 어색한 3연타들입니다. 이 1/4 소리가 00:23:213 - 부터 이어져 온 소리인데 휴식 후 갑툭튀했다는 점에서 드럼을 제대로 표현했다고 보기 어렵습니다. 물론 저는 00:23:899 - 에 멜로디 소리가 있어서 여기서부터 노트를 시작하신 건 줄은 알지만, 그 소리를 표현할 생각이었다면 1/2만을 써서 표현했어야 합니다. 지금 상태는 어느 쪽에 초점을 두고 싶은 것인지 전혀 알 수 없는 모양입니다.

00:26:641 (1) - 여기에 1/4 슬라이더가 쓰일 이유가 전혀 없습니다. 드럼은 확실한 1/2이고, 배경음에 띵띵하는 소리는 1/3입니다. 게다가 00:26:813 - 가 00:26:641 - 보다 중요한 소리이기 때문에 이 음을 점프로서 강조해줄 필요가 있습니다.

00:29:041 (3,4) - 여기서 이렇게 엇박을 쓸 이유가 없습니다. 00:27:670 (3,4,5) - 랑 똑같이 하시는 게 일관성도 있고 좋습니다.

00:29:727 (5,6,7) - 매우 랜덤한 3연타입니다. 물론 이게 오버매핑은 아닙니다만, 주변 어디에서도 표현하지 않았던 조그마한 소리들을 다른 소리들이 사라졌다고 갑자기 연타로 뿌리는 건 맵의 초점을 흐리고 밸런스를 무너뜨립니다. 다시 말해서, 지금 이 부분에서 중점을 두고 싶은 부분은 저 작은 소리들이 전혀 아닐텐데 굳이 연타를 넣어서 맵의 중심이 보컬이나 주요 드럼이 아닌 저 작은 소리들에 쏠리게 된다는 겁니다.

00:30:927 (3,4,5,6) - 보컬이 매우 강한 구간이니까 00:31:099 - 에 1/2 슬라이더가 들어가는 박자로 표현하는 것이 좋습니다. 지금은 어디에 초점을 두고 싶은 것인지가 보이지 않습니다.

00:32:299 - 뉴콤보가 많이 흐트러진 모습입니다. 00:30:241 - 의 보컬에 맞추어 뉴콤하는 것부터 무너지기 시작했었는데, 기본적으로 노래가 나뉘는 구간은 00:29:899 - 00:31:270 - 00:32:641 - 등의 다운비트니 이쪽에 맞추어 콤보를 설정하는 것이 좋습니다. 물론 보컬에 맞추어 콤보를 설정하는 방법도 있지만, 그러려면 보컬의 구절을 정확히 찾아서 일관적으로 뉴콤을 해줘야 되는데 지금은 그런 게 없이 적당히 끊어놓은 것으로 보입니다. 맵 전체적으로 일관성이 없이 거의 무너져 있으니 어떻게 해야 할지 생각해보시기 바랍니다.

00:32:641 (3,4,5,6,1) - 점프가 4에서 이미 시작되고 있는데 이게 5,6,1의 점프에 섞여들어가면서 이 점프들이 무얼 의미하는지 알 수 없게 되어버렸습니다. 5,6,1의 보컬을 보다 확실히 구분해주려면 4에는 그 차이를 명확하게 줘야 합니다. 점프 패턴에서 분리하고, 쓸데없는 강조가 들어가지 않게 거리 조절도 해야겠죠.

1/2인 00:37:613 (1,2) - 는 앞의 1/1인 00:36:584 (1,2,3) - 보다 훨씬 작은 소리인데도 맞먹는 크기의 점프가 들어갔습니다. 뭔가 강조점이 이상하네요.

00:38:127 (1,2,3,4,1) - 까지는 보컬에 맞추어가는 것이 보이는데 00:39:499 (2,3,4,5) - 는 무엇을 위한 엇박 비트인지 모르겠습니다. 엇박마다 강한 소리가 있기는 한데, 지금 맵 전체적으로 그곳에 초점을 두고 있는 것이 아닙니다.

00:41:556 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 여기에 풀점프를 넣을 만한 이유가 없습니다. 노트의 한 비트는 노래에 위치한 그 비트에 대응된다는 것을 명심하세요. 저기 보컬이 뭔가 임팩트가 있어보인다고 해서 그 소리가 모든 1/2에 다 있는 것이 아닙니다. 구체적으로 따라가려는 음악적 요소에 맞추어 리듬을 짜야 합니다.

00:43:613 - 한 번 더 짚고 넘어가는데 들리시다시피 심벌 소리가 있고, 보시다시피 한 마디의 시작점인 다운비트입니다. 그러므로 노트도 이곳이 새로운 시작의 기준점이 되는 것이 마땅합니다. 00:42:927 (1,2,3) - 이렇게 패턴을 짤 것이 아니라, 00:43:441 - 까지의 패턴과 00:43:613 - 이후의 패턴에서 변화가 나타나야 한다는 이야기입니다.

어... 이거 쓰다보니 끝이 없겠는데 더 큰 것만 몇 개 더 쓰고 마칠게요.

00:50:641 (2) - 강하지 않은 1/2에 점프가 있네요. 그 외에도 구간 전체적으로 이런 불필요한 노트가 많습니다. 음악적으로 매우 느린 느낌을 주는 구간인 데에 비해서 스케일도 너무 크고, 00:51:156 (4,5,6,7) - 00:53:213 (1,2,3,4,5) - 와 같은 점프는 그야말로 점프 그 자체만을 위한, 노래와는 아무 연관도 없는 것들입니다.

01:00:070 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 이건 매우 심각하다고 말씀을 드리고 싶습니다. 이 구간에서 큰 소리라고는 1/1 단위의 드럼들 뿐입니다. 1/2은 극히 작을 뿐이고요. 보컬이 높은 소리로 지르고 있다고 해서 1/2 단위의 점프가 정당화될까요? 그렇지 않습니다. 기본적으로 노트 하나는 하나의 비트에 대응이 되어야 합니다. 전체적인 분위기만 표현을 할 거면 애당초 오스가 '리듬'게임일 필요도 없고 맵이 '비트'로 구성될 필요도 없습니다.

01:05:041 (1,2,3) - 역시 마찬가지로 1/4이 쓰일 필요가 없습니다. 소리는 분명한 1/2입니다.

01:10:184 (4,1) - 갑자기 안티점프와 함께 1/1 갭이 나타나는데 노래의 흐름을 대단히 끊어버릴 뿐더러 보컬이 거기서 딱 끝나는 게 아니라 더 지르고 있다는 느낌을 전혀 주지 못합니다.

01:10:527 (1,2,3,4,5) - 실제로 연타를 치기 시작하는 부분이 파란 틱에 있어서 조금 혼란을 줄 수 있는 부분입니다. 더군다나 저 소리가 저 빨간 틱에서 시작하는 것도 아닌데 굳이 여기서 갑자기 연타를 넣을 이유도 없고요. 차라리 01:10:356 - 부터 1/4을 시작했다면 나았겠네요.

01:26:470 (7,8) - 독립된 비트가 전혀 없는데 서클을 넣은 건 이상합니다.

01:31:441 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 주변의 다른 노트들과 스케일을 비교해보세요. 뭔가 너무 튀지 않나요? 음악적으로 변화가 없는데 극단적으로 다른 표현법을 쓸 이유가 없습니다. 계속 드리는 말씀이지만, 무작정 점프를 넣기 전에 모든 1/2 소리들이 점프로 표현될 만한 소리인지를 확인하세요.

나머지는 대부분 거의 비슷한 문제들일 뿐이라 굳이 하나하나 설명드리진 않겠습니다. 간단하게 박자는 잡았지만 노트가 음악을 적극적으로 잘 따라가지 못하고 구조적으로도 거의 랜덤 배치를 보여 많이 모자라보이고 난이도 상승만을 위한 무리한 패턴들도 너무 많습니다.

이제부터 좀 가슴아픈 이야기를 하겠습니다. 우선 제 기준으로 1-10점에서 점수를 매기자면, 2.5점 드리겠습니다. 그야말로 타이밍 잡고 적당히 비트 잡아가면서 흐름만 구현한 수준입니다. 이 정도 맵으로는 아무리 모딩을 많이 받더라도 랭크에 보내는 건 어렵습니다. 이 노래로 랭크맵을 만들고 싶으시다면 현 상태에서 수정만 하는 것으로 시간을 투자할 것이 아니라, 먼저 실력을 많이 키운 뒤에 어느 정도 준비가 된 것 같으면 리맵을 하시는 게 좋다고 생각합니다.

긴 모딩 읽어주셔서 감사하고, 앞으로의 매핑에 도움이 많이 되었으면 좋겠습니다.

안녕하세요 일단 모딩을 받지 않는데 신청하여 매우 죄송합니다. 그리고 그럼에도 모딩해주셔서 감사합니다.
모딩을 끝까지 읽어가면서 수정을 해봤습니다. 역시 저에게는 아직 어렵습니다. 바로 엑스트라를 만들지 않고 노말이나 하드 부터 천천히
다시 배워 볼생각입니다. 이번 맵셋은 인세인만 지적하신대로 수정하여 올려보겠습니다.
다시한번 모딩해주셔서 감사합니다! 도움이 많이 되었습니다!

october

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Joined January 2015

october 2017-03-14T16:50:54+00:00

please keep Okashi diff, it was my favorite diff in the set.

Halogen

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Joined December 2016

Halogen 2017-05-04T11:51:48+00:00

Extra

00:24:413 (1) - This slider sticks out/plays really weird ?

woops xd for necro

rock time

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rock time 2017-05-04T13:33:05+00:00

Karen waifu wrote:
Extra
00:24:413 (1) - This slider sticks out/plays really weird ?
woops xd for necro

hey someone actually modded my diff xdxdxd

i'll check this when i get home, prob deserves kudosu

_xyliac

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_xyliac 2017-05-06T09:13:02+00:00

Hard
00:10:699 (1) - Ugly overlap
00:33:327 (1,2,3) - ugly overlap imo
00:34:699 (1,2,3) - same here
00:44:641 (3) - and another one w
01:06:241 (4) - fix blanket
01:07:956 (7) - move 1 grid to the left to allign with 4 and 6
01:17:213 (3) - ugly overlap
01:14:470 (3) - move 1 grid up
add hitsounds on your map

01:37:441 (1,2) - for ex, you can add clap to this
01:38:127 (3,4,5,6,7) - and whistle to this

Insane
00:29:727 (6,4) - owo, u might want to snap 4 to 6's place
01:07:613 (5,6) - more space
01:08:984 (5,6) - more space
01:09:670 (1,2,3,4) - fix this, looks unapealling imo
01:11:727 (5,6,5,6,5,6) - add more space
01:19:956 (5,6) - more space bec it flows awkward with low spacing
pretty much all of the sliders in kiai need spacing, its "kiai" for a reason
it highlights the strongest part of the map, you need to add more spacing to
emphasize it, not make it the same spacing as the others

Asuka
01:01:613 (2) - ugly overlap
ar 9.2, 175 bpm insane? uwu this is not extra

not really much to say but its a bit dense for its intended difficulty, you might want to tone it down a bit
not gonna say much abot the sliders but maybe fix some of it for aesthetics and you really like
forced flows

kinda rare to see

the spread is kinda rough though imo, I think this map needs another easy and another 5.2* dif or smth to fill in
the gaps because boi the spread is really rough. 1.8 > 3.6 > 4.6 > 4.9 > 5.6

- Skanbis -

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Topic Starter

- Skanbis - 2017-05-07T01:26:28+00:00

_xyliac wrote:
Insane
00:29:727 (6,4) - owo, u might want to snap 4 to 6's place I do not understand
01:07:613 (5,6) - more space fix
01:08:984 (5,6) - more space fix
01:09:670 (1,2,3,4) - fix this, looks unapealling imo fix
01:11:727 (5,6,5,6,5,6) - add more space fix
01:19:956 (5,6) - more space bec it flows awkward with low spacing
pretty much all of the sliders in kiai need spacing, its "kiai" for a reason
it highlights the strongest part of the map, you need to add more spacing to
emphasize it, not make it the same spacing as the others Good advice, thank you. fix

not really much to say but its a bit dense for its intended difficulty, you might want to tone it down a bit
not gonna say much abot the sliders but maybe fix some of it for aesthetics and you really like
forced flows kinda rare to see

the spread is kinda rough though imo, I think this map needs another easy and another 5.2* dif or smth to fill in
the gaps because boi the spread is really rough. 1.8 > 3.6 > 4.6 > 4.9 > 5.6 Trying to add something easy

bbeeeeee

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bbeeeeee 2017-07-05T00:30:25+00:00

안녕하세요. 랜덤모딩입니다.인세인이상만 모딩할게요.

　Insane

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속도 추가는 따로안하셔도 되지만 인세인난이도 이상부턴 3가지정도의 슬라이더 속도가 나오면 재밌을거에요.

00:23:042 (1,2,3,4) - 다른 곳처럼 점프를 넣거나 좀더 재밌게 배치하는게 어떠세요? 지금 이 배치는 재미도가 떨어지는 것같아요.
이 패턴이후 00:23:899 (1,2,3,4) 여기패턴과 비슷하게 나와서 좀 바꾸는것도 맵의 재미요소를 추가할수 있을것 같습니다.
00:25:099 (1) - 뉴콤보 없애도 지장없을 듯합니다.
00:34:870 (4,5,6,1) - 여기 히트사운드 소리가 어색합니다. 클랩소리와 노말히트사운드랑 비슷해서 강약이 없어보여요.00:35:384 (1,2) 이 슬라이드랑 서클노트를 지우고 1/1박자 긴 슬라이더를 하나 넣는게 더 박자가 어울릴것같아요.
01:09:670 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 처음부터 끝까지 사운드가 같은것보단 점점 작아진다던가 사운드의 변화를 주는게 어떤가요?
01:20:641 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 여기는 소리 변화 잘주셨네요.
01:25:613 (5,1) - 거리가 어색합니다. 평범하게 넓게 주는게 어떠세요?

　Asuka_-'s insane

00:26:641 (1) - ここにNCする理由がありますか。00:25:784 (4) にNCをするほうがもっと良くなるだろうと思います。
01:26:298 (2,4) - Clap追加するのがどうですか。何か物足りない。

　furu's Extra

00:12:584 (3,5,7) - Delete whistle sounds. the sound of whistle is too weird. sound better imo
00:33:841 (6) - NC
00:16:013 (3) - Not funny whistle sounds. Turn down the volume 30
00:18:756 (3) - ^
00:21:499 (3) - ^
00:27:156 (1) - Add whistle on the beginning of slider. like 00:38:127 (1)

전체적으로 다듬고 어색한부분 좀만 빼면 더 좋아질거같아요. 화이팅

-MinamiKotori-

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Joined June 2017

-MinamiKotori- 2017-10-24T14:28:41+00:00

great map rankthis plz

LoonW

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Joined April 2017

LoonW 2018-03-20T12:36:30+00:00

rank this plss really like this song and map

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BanchoBot 2018-06-14T04:23:28+00:00

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