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@IWeenox fixed both
NeilPerry

[Kamiya] wrote:

[Neilperry]

05:18:411 (1,1) - Why not intentionally cover?and 05:23:865 (1,2,1) - you are cover,and the two places have the same rhythm.So... Fixed
[quote="Sinnoh"]

Neil
05:59:831 (1,1) - slider end needs to be visible, two bns told me it was unrankable after i posted it in discord so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ fixed

Thanks!

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Exemmar
Played it and it's a fun map as a whole. Can't say that I was bored, which is great for a map this long. Good luck with the set, hopefully you're gonna find a way to rank it without exceeding the score limit.
Osatia
Secretpipe
  • I wouldn't really point out blanket issues in a marathon, but 03:32:388 (3,1) - is really noticeable, so something like https://puu.sh/xpPjg.png would look much better (also remember if you change this you will need to move 03:33:070 (2,3,4,5) - )

    I don't understand why you overlapped 03:47:729 (1,4) - you never used this type of overlapping before so adding it now just feels weird to the aesthetics of the whole part. It can easily be changed be just moving (4) around.

    21:22:842 (7,1) - This is also an easily noticeable blanket, but not that hard a fix since you only need to move the slider end around :3

    21:38:695 (3,4) - Same as above, although (3) is fading away, still noticeable so fixing the slider end of (4) would make the blanket look better
DahplA

Sinnoh wrote:

DahplA
14:30:002 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - increase volume, samples are way too quiet I'm not in charge of hitsounds, but in my own opinion the lesser volume is appropriate here due to the main kicks not being used in the song at this beat.
14:34:604 (3,5) - kinda tricky start to the gimmick on this section, would suggest to increase spacing a little between these just for readability Changed to make it similar to other patterns.

[ IWeenox ] wrote:

[DahpIA]

18:24:547 (1,2,1,2) - you start by changing the circular flow every major beat 18:21:820 (1,2,1,2) - but not the following ones, i recommend to ctrl+g 18:25:229 (2) - and 18:25:911 (1) - Didn't apply your fix. However, it did bring to attention an inconsistency with the sliders' aesthetics not matching the song's suggested intensity. I changed the second slider part to better match the first.
Take It In
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Thanks all!
Wormi
M4M https://osu.ppy.sh/s/636839
note: @Strategas Kurai finally bubbled it so you can now qualify I guess

it probably has been pointed before but I think OD10 is a bit too much for a map that long
also this is probably unrankable until scoreV2 because of score overflow but you're probably already aware of that

  1. 01:21:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is kind of boring to play and does not represent the song really well, maybe would it be better with some triples
  2. 01:24:547 - I don't understand why such a change in the spacing between the first and seconde stream combo, though 01:25:911 (1,2,3,4,1) - feels like it should be more spaced maybe

  3. 02:12:445 (3,1) - The SV change here is quite confusing compared to the other ones

  4. 02:46:024 (5,6,7,8) - ctrl+j this for a cleaner emphasis, better flow maybe, rearrange reverses sliders then if you apply
  5. 02:49:092 - I think there are missing hitsounds during the 1/4 jumps part, some sliders sounds silent (edit: that may be my osu! client because of low fps idk)
  6. 02:51:820 (1,1,1,1,1) - according to the RC there should be a 1/4 gap between buzz reverse sliders to prevent unfair sliderbreaks

  7. 03:27:104 (1,2,3) - this curve with the triples looks/flows bad, would be better if it was linear imo

  8. 05:18:411 (1,2) - this blanket is off and particulary visible

  9. 08:16:365 (3,1) - the way these sliders overlaps looks bad and could be improved

  10. 09:15:683 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - feels a bit out of place, also spacing is too high imo, some fancy sliders could represent the song better here
  11. 09:37:672 (6,7,8,9,10) - if you apply changes above, do the same here, though the spacing is reasonable here

  12. 10:43:638 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - you should use a different spacing than 10:38:354 (1,2,3,4) - since the time gap is different here
  13. 10:53:183 (17) - NC maybe
  14. 11:20:797 (1,1,1,1) - theses NC may be unnecessary and can alter readability
  15. 11:25:911 (1) - same for this part, also I think there should be a triple here if you want to be consistant with above 11:26:848 -
    then also apply changes here if you do 11:31:536 -

  16. 13:42:615 (2,4) - avoid this overlap here?

  17. 22:17:388 (5,1) - according to RC, reverse arrow should be clearly visible, even though this is not totally unreadable, it sure is confusing with some skins
  18. 22:24:888 (2,3) - fix this blanket

  19. 22:40:931 (1) - you should rework symmetry on this slider, it looks bad imo

  20. 23:22:522 (4) - these kind of sliders makes an interessting gimmick for sure but it is quite confusing
    23:29:340 (1) - especially this one, I don't think it is rankable

  21. 24:43:637 - this whole part looks like you've been lazy on mapping it, I do understand this is a long song but I really don't like how this part is mapped

  22. 26:07:841 (1,2,3,4,5) - stack this manually, it have an unexpected behaviour when playing with HR if kept like this, be aware of long stacks like this in this song (Here We Go Again)

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Strategas

Worminators wrote:

M4M https://osu.ppy.sh/s/636839
note: @Strategas Kurai finally bubbled it so you can now qualify I guess

it probably has been pointed before but I think OD10 is a bit too much for a map that long not sure how od is related to length? if anything it's easier cuz bpm stays the same the whole map and the rhythm overall is pretty simple
also this is probably unrankable until scoreV2 because of score overflow but you're probably already aware of that doesn't reach score limit with no mods so idk

  1. 01:21:820 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is kind of boring to play and does not represent the song really well, maybe would it be better with some triples builds up good I think, 1/2 rhythms with stacks into 1/2 kicksliders intro 1/4 streams
  2. 01:24:547 - I don't understand why such a change in the spacing between the first and seconde stream combo, though 01:25:911 (1,2,3,4,1) - feels like it should be more spaced maybe it builds down, keeps getting quieter so I'm decreasing spacing and eventually density

  3. 02:12:445 (3,1) - The SV change here is quite confusing compared to the other ones, matched with 02:20:627 (4,5) -
  4. 02:49:092 - I think there are missing hitsounds during the 1/4 jumps part, some sliders sounds silent (edit: that may be my osu! client because of low fps idk) hitsounds seem fine, but I increased volume a bit
  5. 02:51:820 (1,1,1,1,1) - according to the RC there should be a 1/4 gap between buzz reverse sliders to prevent unfair sliderbreaks fixed it for him
  6. 08:16:365 (3,1) - the way these sliders overlaps looks bad and could be improved maybe I'll think of something later, nothing comes to mind rn
  7. 09:15:683 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - feels a bit out of place, also spacing is too high imo, some fancy sliders could represent the song better here nah, it's all part of how I structured this part, I might nerf the spacing later on though
  8. 09:37:672 (6,7,8,9,10) - if you apply changes above, do the same here, though the spacing is reasonable here
  9. 10:43:638 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - you should use a different spacing than 10:38:354 (1,2,3,4) - since the time gap is different here it looks different tho, should be enough to tell apart
  10. 10:53:183 (17) - NC maybe looks cooler without, kinda part of my style
  11. 11:20:797 (1,1,1,1) - theses NC may be unnecessary and can alter readability made them to make more sense, with colors for different instruments, pretty much what the part after you mentioned does
  12. 11:25:911 (1) - same for this part, also I think there should be a triple here if you want to be consistant with above 11:26:848 -
    then also apply changes here if you do 11:31:536 - it's different so keeping this, every color represents different instrument here which seems cool to me
  13. 22:40:931 (1) - you should rework symmetry on this slider, it looks bad imo wasn't suppose to be symmetrical but ok

  14. 23:22:522 (4) - these kind of sliders makes an interessting gimmick for sure but it is quite confusing will check into these
    23:29:340 (1) - especially this one, I don't think it is rankable

  15. 24:43:637 - this whole part looks like you've been lazy on mapping it, I do understand this is a long song but I really don't like how this part is mapped it's just different I guess, I tried various stuff to use for seperate sections

  16. 26:07:841 (1,2,3,4,5) - stack this manually, it have an unexpected behaviour when playing with HR if kept like this, be aware of long stacks like this in this song (Here We Go Again) whoops, thought I did stack it properly, fixed

Good luck!
thanks!
Shmiklak
PoNo
26:54:205 (1) - i dont think so
thanks
no changes for my part
Sanch-KK

Worminators wrote:

M4M https://osu.ppy.sh/s/636839
note: @Strategas Kurai finally bubbled it so you can now qualify I guess

[notice]it probably has been pointed before but I think OD10 is a bit too much for a map that long
To be honest, I dont see clear point, why OD 10 is bad, maybe its just very rare choice. Bpm is not too high, and map is not pointed on destroying your stamina, so you dont get tired with time and any OD is ok for player, imho. Also its good for players who cant get high combo with hr to get a bit more pp, lol
P.S I dont know, but maybe OD 10 is related to the fact I didnt got notelocks on streams while playing this map...
Milan-

[ IWeenox ] wrote:

[milan-]

12:28:297 (7) - extend this slider because the mhm 1/4 rythme start here 12:28:809 (8) - i think you meant 1/2 and i think it makes sense to start it from (1) as it does M mM mM something xd. same with the others
12:33:752 (7) - there too
^^^^ and so on
thanks!
GenDoNL

NeilPerry wrote:

06:54:547 - in this part i dont agree with way of stacking tripples and 5 stacks with different sounds. U can try space them a bit for emphaze strong bit. It will be better map feeling. Just some examples but in general there can be a lot of variations: https://puu.sh/xhhxF/302ca778fa.jpg https://puu.sh/xhhyC/206399ab9f.jpg Sorry I really dislike this suggestion, since this part is supposed to be calm and relaxing. The jumps between the stacks are enough of an emphasis.

Sinnoh wrote:

07:15:172 (1,2) - spacing kinda too large especially comparing to others in section It's meant to be an increase of spacing, since there is an increase of intensity. I did nerf it a bit tho
Cheesecake

Worminators wrote:

  1. 13:42:615 (2,4) - avoid this overlap here? its an aesthetic overlap
thanks
sahuang
==
sahuang
The OD Setting is very unreasonable in my opinion. Your previous Yearmix 2015 has a similar BPM (175 vs 176) and that one only has OD8. Given that 2016 is obviously much harder than 2015, I think OD9 would be more than enough. 10 is simply too high and won't do any good to your playcount (and rating) cuz it's a marathon and nobody wants to miss in the middle or get a very bad accuracy.

ORDER BY MapperName ASC

cbd
28:06:308 (4,5) - hoyl this spacing is too bigg
28:07:501 (3) - i feel this is better with 2 circles, 28:07:671 - basically is loud
28:23:864 (3) - 28:32:046 (3) - same


Cheese
13:15:342 - this is a downbeat tbh so better make it clickable. consider using the same rhythm in 13:14:661 (4,1,2,3,4) - as 13:09:206 (5,1,2,3,4) -
13:40:911 (1,2) - need more aesthetics
14:04:604 (3,1) - probably reduce spacing a bit? its a bit surprised to me when im playing, not expecting such a big ds lol


DahplA
14:23:354 (2,3) - i recommend you to reduce spacing here, the sound is not as intense as 14:24:036 (6,7) - tbh
14:27:274 (1) - see no reason to extend slider when 14:27:445 - is much more obvious than 3/4
14:35:797 (2,3) - very misleading spacing without any notice or sign. This is kind of bad at the middle of a marathon... maybe you can do some other patterns, or ctrl+G 14:36:308 (3) - but then you have to adjust spacings later on
14:38:524 (2,3) - same, consider 14:43:979 (2,3) - is good
14:46:706 (2,3) - 14:50:456 (1,2) - no
hmm after considering that you're doing such pattern consistently in your part, maybe NC the second slider at all places so players would expect sth different? the 1/2 really looks like 1/4 imo

marv
27:15:853 (1) - why NC


nasobol
15:38:609 (3) - no sound to support your 1/4
15:39:206 (7,2) - need blanket here
15:39:547 (1,3) - the flow is kinda bad because of 15:39:888 (3) - curve. Try adjust the curve so the triangle flows naturally
15:41:252 (1,1) - why NC? they belong to one part.
15:42:274 (1,2) - it would be better if you try with the same slider shape. Just because its better in aesthetics lol
15:47:047 (4) - this is ugly, since you dont need the red anchor here.
15:47:388 (1,3) - space them as you did before for the equilibrium tri
15:53:524 (4) - same as mentioned above
16:01:706 (1) - not sure why you use this reverse cuz the strong beats were on 16:01:877 - 16:02:047 -
16:01:365 (6,1) - 16:03:070 (1,1,3,1) - etc please redo the NC here, it looks so messy. I dont know your undergoing logic lol
16:04:433 (1) - same.
16:08:183 (1,3) - aesthetics
16:10:740 - actually make a triple here, its quite obvious
16:11:422 (3,4) - judgin by the song you should swap the thyrhm
16:12:274 - it is clickable
16:13:638 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - more aesthetics please. The circles seem too random and they dont look good
16:19:092 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - alright i will take this as an example...so basically you are not mapping to the beats. We know that the drum is more intense at 16:19:092 (1,3,6,7) - than the others, so its more reasonable to emphasis them better. Not just mapping 8 circles with a shape being very random and casual.

So basically idk why you keep using the reverse slider like 16:18:070 (3) - , they are weird af. And aesthetics definitely need more improvement. Especially compare it with other collab parts. This needs to be reworked, im not so satisfied with its quality atm.


Neilperry
05:36:479 (4) - for consistency this should be converted to 2 circles


niyuji

02:45:683 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - honestly i dont think spaced 1/4 stream is cool here, because 1/4s are kind of vague and whats more, it feels too sudden to do a spaced movement when the other notes are just reverse sliders. Of course, it's fine if u keep this but from gameplay aspect it's better to nerf a little xD
02:53:524 (1,1) - maybe reduce distance a bit, and 02:54:036 (2,3,4) - is too spaced when music is very still
03:15:854 (1,2,3,4) - would be good if you make a linear stream, just move 03:15:854 (1) -


Secretpipe
03:32:388 (3,1) - blanket
03:41:252 (1,2) - looks bad tbh
03:43:297 (3,4,5,1) - need blanket
03:41:933 (3,4,5,1,2) - the flow is a pain here tbh
Obviously needs more aesthetics
21:16:877 (3,4,5) - spacing is confusing
21:18:752 (5,5) - etc for these kind of sliders as the sound is similar try to use the same length
21:22:502 (5,6) - maybe separate them? its a strong beat, so you can put 21:22:672 (6) - somewhere like 463|336 etc
22:13:297 (7,1) - maybe not such a small overlap, feels weird
22:17:388 (5,1) - the reverse arrow is fully covered and their duration is so low.
22:16:365 (1) - should be 1/2?
22:20:286 (5) - NC
22:26:933 (6,7) - wow sudden spacing boost
22:27:786 (3) - the reverse here does not fit music


Strategas
01:02:899 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I really think it's a bad idea to use such stream at the beginning of the song when the music is not so intense. In fact you used a much more friendly and small spaced stream 01:24:547 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - when the drums are actually more intense. It would really nice if you reduce ds a bit here.
01:04:092 (9,1,2,1,2,1) - judging from music the NC should be on 01:04:092 - 01:04:433 - 01:04:774 - so 01:04:092 (9,1) - 01:04:433 (2,1) - 01:04:774 (2,1,2,3,4) - are the three groups. Therefore 01:04:433 (2,1) - the spacing is very unreasonable, 01:04:774 (2) - should be emphasised instead.
01:13:127 (5,6,7) - 01:32:558 (7,1) - sudden spacing?? They are kinda unexpected
01:34:263 (2,3,4) - dont expect a triplet cuz there's no 1/4 sound?
01:36:990 (2) - same here
09:01:621 (2) - not sure if you need it here. Your other rhythms just ignore this
09:19:604 (2) - why not use a triplet
11:20:627 (1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1) - 11:25:911 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - etc. I didn't get the NC spam in this section
11:39:206 (1) - i dont think this is necessary to NC, or swap with 11:39:717 (1) - as you did later on
16:49:092 (1) - why nc when you didnt in other places
17:12:615 (1,1) - not sure if its fine to block the reverse arrow
17:48:922 -17:59:661 (3) - 18:05:115 (4) - i think ending slider at 1/2 is better, and add a circle at 3/4
23:17:067 (5) - wtf ASPIRE??? sooo confusing same for others?? not sure if its k especially for total reverse like 23:29:340 (1) -


Should be all. milan and pishi god mappers
NeilPerry

Worminators wrote:

05:18:411 (1,2) - this blanket is off and particulary visible not blanket

sahuang wrote:

Neilperry
05:36:479 (4) - for consistency this should be converted to 2 circles okokok im consistenc maber B)

Strategas put drum sampleset here 05:36:479 (4) - not sure that it's copyed.

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Topic Starter
Strategas

sahuang wrote:

The OD Setting is very unreasonable in my opinion. Your previous Yearmix 2015 has a similar BPM (175 vs 176) and that one only has OD8. Given that 2016 is obviously much harder than 2015, I think OD9 would be more than enough. 10 is simply too high and won't do any good to your playcount (and rating) cuz it's a marathon and nobody wants to miss in the middle or get a very bad accuracy. OD 8 was way too little for the other marathon, od 9 would have been better for it, but this map is harder and longer, so it's easier to catch on the rhythm imo, OD 10 isn't as challenging as you think

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01:02:899 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I really think it's a bad idea to use such stream at the beginning of the song when the music is not so intense. In fact you used a much more friendly and small spaced stream 01:24:547 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - when the drums are actually more intense. It would really nice if you reduce ds a bit here. remade
01:04:092 (9,1,2,1,2,1) - judging from music the NC should be on 01:04:092 - 01:04:433 - 01:04:774 - so 01:04:092 (9,1) - 01:04:433 (2,1) - 01:04:774 (2,1,2,3,4) - are the three groups. Therefore 01:04:433 (2,1) - the spacing is very unreasonable, 01:04:774 (2) - should be emphasised instead. aesthetic ncs tho :( patterns look gross with ncing the white ticks, fixed the spacing
01:13:127 (5,6,7) - 01:32:558 (7,1) - sudden spacing?? They are kinda unexpected seems fine to me, both are very strong notes
01:34:263 (2,3,4) - dont expect a triplet cuz there's no 1/4 sound? there is a tripple here in the, it goes with the melody well but I made it made consistant with others, by not having clickable blue tick
01:36:990 (2) - same here
09:01:621 (2) - not sure if you need it here. Your other rhythms just ignore this, I don't really need it but it's cool and works well with transition
09:19:604 (2) - why not use a triplet stronger vocal here
11:20:627 (1,1,1,2,1,2,1,1) - 11:25:911 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - etc. I didn't get the NC spam in this section enable custom combo colors, maybe it will make some sense xd
11:39:206 (1) - i dont think this is necessary to NC, or swap with 11:39:717 (1) - as you did later on k
16:49:092 (1) - why nc when you didnt in other places removed
17:12:615 (1,1) - not sure if its fine to block the reverse arrow it's visible in game 2 beats with ar 9.5 is enough
17:48:922 -17:59:661 (3) - 18:05:115 (4) - i think ending slider at 1/2 is better, and add a circle at 3/4 changed all except 17:59:661 (3) - because I like how it looks
23:17:067 (5) - wtf ASPIRE??? sooo confusing same for others?? not sure if its k especially for total reverse like 23:29:340 (1) - made it look gross but rankable now


Should be all. milan and pishi god mappers
thanks!!!!!!!
Shmiklak
fixed
Cheesecake

sahuang wrote:

Cheese
13:15:342 - this is a downbeat tbh so better make it clickable. consider using the same rhythm in 13:14:661 (4,1,2,3,4) - as 13:09:206 (5,1,2,3,4) - id rather keep it as is since im following lyrics where i can
13:40:911 (1,2) - need more aesthetics hell yea
14:04:604 (3,1) - probably reduce spacing a bit? its a bit surprised to me when im playing, not expecting such a big ds lol ok
thanks
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sahuang wrote:

nasobol
15:38:609 (3) - no sound to support your 1/4 ?? there is one
15:39:206 (7,2) - need blanket here adjusted
15:39:547 (1,3) - the flow is kinda bad because of 15:39:888 (3) - curve. Try adjust the curve so the triangle flows naturally modified
15:41:252 (1,1) - why NC? they belong to one part. fixed
15:42:274 (1,2) - it would be better if you try with the same slider shape. Just because its better in aesthetics lol fixed
15:47:047 (4) - this is ugly, since you dont need the red anchor here. not ugly imo but fixed
15:47:388 (1,3) - space them as you did before for the equilibrium tri ye
15:53:524 (4) - same as mentioned above ^
16:01:706 (1) - not sure why you use this reverse cuz the strong beats were on 16:01:877 - 16:02:047 - Strong beats aren't that strong in that song, so i decided to emphasis a sound that reapeats each time (louder that beats too) to increase rhythm variety. i find it really hard to find wich beats are stronger in this song, but it's maybe because of my earphones xd
16:01:365 (6,1) - 16:03:070 (1,1,3,1) - etc please redo the NC here, it looks so messy. I dont know your undergoing logic lol changed
16:04:433 (1) - same. ^
16:08:183 (1,3) - aesthetics improved
16:10:740 - actually make a triple here, its quite obvious not that obvious, but done
16:11:422 (3,4) - judgin by the song you should swap the thyrhm swap the rhythm? what?
16:12:274 - it is clickable ehh yea?
16:13:638 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - more aesthetics please. The circles seem too random and they dont look good that wasn't random but mofied a bit
16:19:092 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - alright i will take this as an example...so basically you are not mapping to the beats. We know that the drum is more intense at 16:19:092 (1,3,6,7) - than the others, so its more reasonable to emphasis them better. Not just mapping 8 circles with a shape being very random and casual.
=fixed, but yk i'm not the best mapper in the universe, but i understand that thing, no need to explain nor to insist on my error. I don't have very much mapping exprience too, so plz be a little bit more gentle.

So basically idk why you keep using the reverse slider like 16:18:070 (3) - , they are weird af they aren't
. And aesthetics definitely need more improvement. yea maybe
Especially compare it with other collab parts. This needs to be reworked, im not so satisfied with its quality atm. i'm the worse mapper of that marathon and the less experienced one, it's hard for me, even if i spend time on my map.

thanks
Lavender
wow
  1. 00:39:547 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:41:422 (3,4,5,6,7) - 00:42:615 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Considering this is the first song, changing 1/4 stream to reverse sliders would help people build up. What's more, 00:35:456 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - You skipped 1/2 transition, that feels a little abnormal.
  2. 01:22:161 (3,4) - This transition plays really bad, following synthesizer (1/4) here would be better ( 01:22:331 (4) - to 01:22:672 (6) - )
  3. 01:44:831 (1,2,1,2) - Distance changes looks unreasonable.
  4. 02:10:911 (1,2) - I'm not sure but 1/3 snap here seems off a bit
  5. 05:53:524 (2,3,4) - 06:04:433 (2,3,4) - better rhythm
  6. 06:12:871 (5) - 06:18:325 (5,7) - Overmapped, there isn't any synth here, I won't mention more, or you could at least hitsound those overmpped triples so they would give better feedback.
  7. 09:16:024 (7) - 09:37:842 (7) - NC to hint rhythm change, I won't mention more.
  8. LOL Deconstruction Star -> tsubaki -> Monstrata
  9. 11:25:911 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - LOL
  10. 11:30:342 (2,3,4) - This is a not good gimmick cuz you don't introduce it properly before
    Reference: Difficulty Spike
  11. 16:21:820 (1) - 17:27:104 (1) - these two parts look better than previous part you mapped
  12. 20:39:377 (4) - A bit intense cuz you used a reversed slider before it
  13. 21:22:672 (6) - maybe place it further?
  14. 22:17:388 (5,1) - Reverse arrow is completely visually obstructed by that circle, it's unrankable.
  15. 23:47:728 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - LOL
  16. 24:21:563 - you missed rhythm here
Good luck but I prefer Monstercat
DahplA

sahuang wrote:

DahplA
14:23:354 (2,3) - i recommend you to reduce spacing here, the sound is not as intense as 14:24:036 (6,7) - tbh The spacing emphasises the hard beats, and considering they are both placed on claps, I think the spacing is appropriate. Also the song's 'tone' is going from high to low, so I think this whole combo works well to represent that.
14:27:274 (1) - see no reason to extend slider when 14:27:445 - is much more obvious than 3/4 The whole section has been mapped similarly. I've chosen to highlight the 'long' (I don't know what the name of it is, but I'm sure you know what I mean) sound at the start of each other downbeat.
14:35:797 (2,3) - very misleading spacing without any notice or sign. This is kind of bad at the middle of a marathon... maybe you can do some other patterns, or ctrl+G 14:36:308 (3) - but then you have to adjust spacings later on The difficulty implies that higher performing players will play this map. This shouldn't be too demanding to read. Once the player has seen the initial hit area, they'll realise it's more than just a circle, and play it as a slider. Additionally, using the same slider shape also helps players read this section better. Adjustments have already been made to make this part play well.
14:38:524 (2,3) - same, consider 14:43:979 (2,3) - is good
14:46:706 (2,3) - 14:50:456 (1,2) - no Since these address the same issue, the response won't change.
hmm after considering that you're doing such pattern consistently in your part, maybe NC the second slider at all places so players would expect sth different? the 1/2 really looks like 1/4 imo
Thanks anyways :)
Come[Back]Home

NeilPerry wrote:

Hello! Let me mod some.:D

General: Dont find any issuses

Marathon:

28:04:092 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - disagree with this jump part. It's emphaze nothing D: I wanna keep it though
28:10:058 (4,5) - same thing this one does

Sinnoh wrote:

ComeBackHome
28:28:296 (5,1) - Increase spacing? yep

sahuang wrote:

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cbd
28:06:308 (4,5) - hoyl this spacing is too bigg reduced
28:07:501 (3) - i feel this is better with 2 circles, 28:07:671 - basically is loud okay
28:23:864 (3) - 28:32:046 (3) - same Okay
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135,344,1694489,1,0,3:0:0:0:
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512,261,1698410,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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Topic Starter
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Lavender wrote:

wow
  1. 00:39:547 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:41:422 (3,4,5,6,7) - 00:42:615 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Considering this is the first song, changing 1/4 stream to reverse sliders would help people build up. What's more, 00:35:456 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - You skipped 1/2 transition, that feels a little abnormal. changed
  2. 01:22:161 (3,4) - This transition plays really bad, following synthesizer (1/4) here would be better ( 01:22:331 (4) - to 01:22:672 (6) - ) tried something
  3. 01:44:831 (1,2,1,2) - Distance changes looks unreasonable. seems fine to me 01:45:172 (1,2) - feels much stronger
  4. 02:10:911 (1,2) - I'm not sure but 1/3 snap here seems off a bit, it's the closest it can get
  5. 05:53:524 (2,3,4) - 06:04:433 (2,3,4) - better rhythm
  6. 06:12:871 (5) - 06:18:325 (5,7) - Overmapped, there isn't any synth here, I won't mention more, or you could at least hitsound those overmpped triples so they would give better feedback. there are notes there, but made them hitsounded I guess
  7. 09:16:024 (7) - 09:37:842 (7) - NC to hint rhythm change, I won't mention more. ok
  8. LOL Deconstruction Star -> tsubaki -> Monstrata
  9. 11:25:911 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - LOL yes
  10. 11:30:342 (2,3,4) - This is a not good gimmick cuz you don't introduce it properly before yeah I removed other one's before just forgot about this
    Reference: Difficulty Spike
  11. 16:21:820 (1) - 17:27:104 (1) - these two parts look better than previous part you mapped and the least effort required
  12. 20:39:377 (4) - A bit intense cuz you used a reversed slider before it ?
  13. 23:47:728 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - LOL square
  14. 24:21:563 - you missed rhythm here emphasized snare drum by undermapping
Good luck but I prefer Monstercat monstercat is cool too
thanks
niyuji

Worminators wrote:

[*]02:46:024 (5,6,7,8) - ctrl+j this for a cleaner emphasis, better flow maybe, rearrange reverses sliders then if you apply changed entirely - removed jump streams
[*]02:49:092 - I think there are missing hitsounds during the 1/4 jumps part, some sliders sounds silent (edit: that may be my osu! client because of low fps idk) probably your client
[*]02:51:820 (1,1,1,1,1) - according to the RC there should be a 1/4 gap between buzz reverse sliders to prevent unfair sliderbreaks there are 1/4 gaps already

sahuang wrote:

niyuji
02:45:683 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - honestly i dont think spaced 1/4 stream is cool here, because 1/4s are kind of vague and whats more, it feels too sudden to do a spaced movement when the other notes are just reverse sliders. Of course, it's fine if u keep this but from gameplay aspect it's better to nerf a little xD replaced spaced streams with two sets of 2+1
02:53:524 (1,1) - maybe reduce distance a bit, and 02:54:036 (2,3,4) - is too spaced when music is very still placed 02:53:865 (1) - closer as well as 02:54:036 (2,3,4) -
03:15:854 (1,2,3,4) - would be good if you make a linear stream, just move 03:15:854 (1) - changed ending a little
Topic Starter
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NeilPerry wrote:

Hello! Let me mod some.:D

03:47:388 (4) - hi im nazi. Try move it on x:141 y:183 :D ok
21:41:252 - will be cool to place note here. I understand abt vocal emphaze BUT TOO STRONG CLAP aaa. so plz: http://puu.sh/xhiZJ/10e18bb033.jpg :D yes

DendyMudak wrote:

Hi

Secretpipe
03:22:331 (3) - ugly adjusted a bit

PoNo wrote:

03:32:388 (3,1) - eeeh fix

03:39:036 (3) - A kick slider here could be better cause the rhythm can be hard to read for the first time and thats looks better to me ye

03:49:433 (2) - this looks a bit too close to the end of the slider ye

Sinnoh wrote:

Secretpipe
03:49:092 (1,2) - Can you make this more readable as a 3/4 slider? None have been used after almost 4 minutes and it looks fairly similar to 1/1 sliders. Just moving the circle closer to tail should be fine yes
22:17:388 (5,1) - Unreadable slider repeat on any skin with a 300 hit animation, plenty of other options yes

[ IWeenox ] wrote:

[secretpipe]

20:55:058 (3) - you made this note clickable before why not here ? variety, it also repeats later

Waku wrote:

Secretpipe
  • I wouldn't really point out blanket issues in a marathon, but 03:32:388 (3,1) - is really noticeable, so something like https://puu.sh/xpPjg.png would look much better (also remember if you change this you will need to move 03:33:070 (2,3,4,5) - ) yep

    I don't understand why you overlapped 03:47:729 (1,4) - you never used this type of overlapping before so adding it now just feels weird to the aesthetics of the whole part. It can easily be changed be just moving (4) around. doesn't seem to matter, it blankets the slider head which is good enough

    21:22:842 (7,1) - This is also an easily noticeable blanket, but not that hard a fix since you only need to move the slider end around :3 yep

    21:38:695 (3,4) - Same as above, although (3) is fading away, still noticeable so fixing the slider end of (4) would make the blanket look better yes

Worminators wrote:

  1. 03:27:104 (1,2,3) - this curve with the triples looks/flows bad, would be better if it was linear imo adjusted
  2. 05:18:411 (1,2) - this blanket is off and particulary visible
  3. 08:16:365 (3,1) - the way these sliders overlaps looks bad and could be improved
  4. 22:17:388 (5,1) - according to RC, reverse arrow should be clearly visible, even though this is not totally unreadable, it sure is confusing with some skins yes
  5. 22:24:888 (2,3) - fix this blanket yes

sahuang wrote:

Secretpipe
03:32:388 (3,1) - blanket yes
03:41:252 (1,2) - looks bad tbh yes
03:43:297 (3,4,5,1) - need blanket yes
03:41:933 (3,4,5,1,2) - the flow is a pain here tbh yes
Obviously needs more aesthetics
21:16:877 (3,4,5) - spacing is confusing yes
21:18:752 (5,5) - etc for these kind of sliders as the sound is similar try to use the same length think it's fine for variety
21:22:502 (5,6) - maybe separate them? its a strong beat, so you can put 21:22:672 (6) - somewhere like 463|336 etc yes
22:13:297 (7,1) - maybe not such a small overlap, feels weird yes
22:17:388 (5,1) - the reverse arrow is fully covered and their duration is so low. yes
22:16:365 (1) - should be 1/2? extending the strong sound
22:20:286 (5) - NC yes
22:26:933 (6,7) - wow sudden spacing boost made a bit smaller, say if it needs more nerf
22:27:786 (3) - the reverse here does not fit music yes

Lavender wrote:

  1. 21:22:672 (6) - maybe place it further? ok
  2. 22:17:388 (5,1) - Reverse arrow is completely visually obstructed by that circle, it's unrankable. ok
replied for secretpipe cuz he ded
Secretpipe
im dead and im truly sorry

good luck to all of you guys
sahuang
Even though I still cannot agree with some mappers on some parts, they seem much better than before.

Since my concerns are minor, I will bubble the map for now.
Vivyanne
wait why is the map od10
Monstrata
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01:05:456 (1) - Kinda lame to have the first kick be a slider-end.
01:45:002 (2,1) - Jump felt quite forced tbh... it's not really a strong beat until 2 for the snare.
08:40:058 (3,4,5,6) - The arrangement just looks really confusing imo cuz of how 08:39:547 (1,2) - are spaced the same but are 1/2
16:27:274 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Break them into more NC's or make them a single NC? kinda looks bad that the 3rd slider is a different combo but meh maybe its just me
17:03:240 (4,5,6,7,8) - Ehh... idk about this stream aesthetic, it just really doesn't fit what you've been using so far imo
17:40:911 (1,3) - Could position this a bit better visually.
20:20:456 - How about a break here? Short breaks are kinda cool imo
23:36:328 (4) - Repeat isn't pointing exactly where 5 is. Cool concept though :D I remember doing this on one of my really old Kuroko maps haha.


Milan-


04:50:115 (5) - Ctrl+H'ed pattern would be cool here. Like something similar to 04:49:092 (1) - ?

NeilPerry

05:36:649 (5,1) - Needs a jump I think..

[]

Yea
Topic Starter
Strategas

Monstrata wrote:

Strategas

01:05:456 (1) - Kinda lame to have the first kick be a slider-end. more emphasis on the first downbeat that way, which is more important in this case
01:45:002 (2,1) - Jump felt quite forced tbh... it's not really a strong beat until 2 for the snare. adjusted a bit, not too much cuz there's other strong sound other than drum on it, but snare is bigger now
08:40:058 (3,4,5,6) - The arrangement just looks really confusing imo cuz of how 08:39:547 (1,2) - are spaced the same but are 1/2 moved 2
16:27:274 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Break them into more NC's or make them a single NC? kinda looks bad that the 3rd slider is a different combo but meh maybe its just me yea
17:03:240 (4,5,6,7,8) - Ehh... idk about this stream aesthetic, it just really doesn't fit what you've been using so far imo, agree, but I'm using it as indication that something is changing, hopefully it wokes the player not to mess up the following pattern
17:40:911 (1,3) - Could position this a bit better visually. tried
20:20:456 - How about a break here? Short breaks are kinda cool imo did
23:36:328 (4) - Repeat isn't pointing exactly where 5 is. Cool concept though :D I remember doing this on one of my really old Kuroko maps haha. done, and would be cooler if I could keep the slider shape normal but repeat arrow broken alone B) (like it was before)


Milan-

04:50:115 (5) - Ctrl+H'ed pattern would be cool here. Like something similar to 04:49:092 (1) - ? he did it

NeilPerry

05:36:649 (5,1) - Needs a jump I think.. he did it

[]

Yea
thanks!
celerih
I'm sorry I have to be the bearer of bad news, but as it stands the length of the map goes over 2,147,483,647 score when converted to catch when any mod is applied. Since the map has the possibilty of going over the cap and causing issues with the leaderboards, the map is unrankable with the current lenght. Just to be sure I discussed this with Deif because I really didn't want to have to pop this (this map is seriously amazing) but due to the limits of the scoring system changes need to be made to the map

As seen below a No Mod FC doesn't reach the cap

But HD being applied, HDHR or 4 mod (which I just did first as a test) goes over the score.

HD
Score goes over limit at around 9200 combo
HDHR
Score goes over at around 8700 combo
4 mod
Score goes over limit at around 8k combo


The only solution, as much as it sucks, would be to cut the map down. Turning down OD didn't do enough to avoid the issue. Similar issue happened here: p/5780082 and the solution there was cutting the song down until the score didn't go over the limit of the scoring system.

Now as for how much you'll need to cut, probably making it so HDHR scores don't go over the limit is probably the safest best, since it's not really reasonable to think anyone will ever FL or HDHRDT this.
Chewin
nerf osu! score system
Chromoxx
Tbh just make one combo right in the middle that is basically impossible to hit in catch and ur good
Uber
remove converts
Cheesecake

celerih wrote:

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Strategas
how do I make an impossible to hit pattern in ctb
Anemic Witch

Strategas wrote:

how do I make an impossible to hit pattern in ctb
Probably fast repeating horizontal slider?

Honestly this map is amazing and deserves to be ranked, not letting it into ranked just because CtB auto-converted version overflows score isn't fair. That is totally not mappers problem nor they should be obliged to find workaround for this.
Kimitakari

Strategas wrote:

how do I make an impossible to hit pattern in ctb


1/16 reversed sliders and you're done.
Ascendance
As long as the score goes over in nomod / hd / hdhr, the map is assuredly unrankable lol. There’s nothing impossible to hit in ctb unless it’s unrankable because people like ExGon exist
Lhahein
A bit of a necropost but I don't understand why mappers are to blame if it goes past the 2.1 billion score limit. But hey, I guess that's the system until peppy changes the integer limit
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