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KappaPraise
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Joined November 2015
KappaPraise
hi, m4m from your queue

Easy
  1. what about set slider tick rate on 2, to emphasize some sounds on red ticks for example 00:08:766 - 00:10:897 - and etc
  2. 00:04:325 (1) - should it be soft slider end?
  3. 01:03:785 (1,2) - what about make spinner instead which ends here 01:05:020 - to emphasize this sound?
  4. 00:48:256 (4,5) - this moment sounds special and I dont like fact that you ignored this 00:48:785 - sound, may be try this reverse slider?
Normal
  1. 00:34:844 (7) - make please two 1/2 sliders instead, they are fits more, because of strong vocal on white ticks and that feels weird that you follow in priority vocal 00:32:726 - here then follow instrumental here 00:35:550 - but ignoring this 00:35:373 - sound, same here 00:46:138 (7) -
  2. 00:36:962 (5) - NC, new part
  3. 00:42:609 (5) - ^
  4. 00:48:256 (5) - ^
Hard
  1. 00:31:315 (1) - hard to see this circle under this 4 sliders, I could suggest you unstack it
  2. 01:05:726 (2,3,4) - may be stack them? confusing spacing imo, you use jump for 1/2 and stacking
  3. 01:28:138 (1,2) - copy 01:28:844 (4,5) - paste please xd
Lift's Insane
  1. Good dif
Second Beat
  1. 00:07:167 - ctrl+c 01:06:609 - ctrl+v ctrl+h =w=b
  2. this half screen jumps dont fits for spread of difs imo... after insane they are too big
  3. 00:01:839 (3,4) - uncomfortable to play something like this should be better imo
  4. 00:05:746 - I think this is still should be soft part
  5. 00:14:094 (2) - ctrl+g please
  6. 00:16:936 (2) - ^
  7. 00:31:844 (2,1) - stack please
  8. 00:36:962 (1,2) - uncomfotable jump imo, this plays better imo
  9. 00:42:785 (2) - I am not sure, but try ctrl+g and restack circle with slider end also 00:43:138 (3,4) - ctrl+g
  10. 00:48:256 (1,2) - place them in double too
  11. 00:56:020 (3,4) - thats not looks like 1/2
  12. for 2nd kiai there should be similar suggestions as before
Thats it from me.
Good luck!
SLM
462 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
SLM
WISPG_G

WISPG_G wrote:

hi, m4m from your queue

Easy
  1. what about set slider tick rate on 2, to emphasize some sounds on red ticks for example 00:08:766 - 00:10:897 - and etc - nice, but i think 1 is better.
  2. 00:04:325 (1) - should it be soft slider end? - fixed
  3. 01:03:785 (1,2) - what about make spinner instead which ends here 01:05:020 - to emphasize this sound? - that's too short imo
  4. 00:48:256 (4,5) - this moment sounds special and I dont like fact that you ignored this 00:48:785 - sound, may be try - umm no, I think current straight forward rhythm is better, & consistency with other parts.this reverse slider?
Normal
  1. 00:34:844 (7) - make please two 1/2 sliders instead, they are fits more, because of strong vocal on white ticks and that feels weird that you follow in priority vocal 00:32:726 - here then follow instrumental here 00:35:550 - but ignoring this 00:35:373 - sound, same here 00:46:138 (7) - - that's because I'm starting 1/1 at downbeats. I'll consider it.
  2. 00:36:962 (5) - NC, new part
  3. 00:42:609 (5) - ^
  4. 00:48:256 (5) - ^ - okay
Hard
  1. 00:31:315 (1) - hard to see this circle under this 4 sliders, I could suggest you unstack it - changed
  2. 01:05:726 (2,3,4) - may be stack them? confusing spacing imo, you use jump for 1/2 and stacking - changed a bit
  3. 01:28:138 (1,2) - copy 01:28:844 (4,5) - paste please xd - not necessary I think
Lift's Insane
  1. Good dif
Second Beat
  1. 00:07:167 - ctrl+c 01:06:609 - ctrl+v ctrl+h =w=b
  2. this half screen jumps dont fits for spread of difs imo... after insane they are too big
  3. 00:01:839 (3,4) - uncomfortable to play something like this should be better imo - umm.. no
  4. 00:05:746 - I think this is still should be soft part - no cuz at this diff i'm using continuos 1/2s.
  5. 00:14:094 (2) - ctrl+g please - okay
  6. 00:16:936 (2) - ^ - okay
  7. 00:31:844 (2,1) - stack please - stacking this feels awkward imo
  8. 00:36:962 (1,2) - uncomfotable jump imo, this plays better imo - it's intended to be uncomfortable so keeping
  9. 00:42:785 (2) - I am not sure, but try ctrl+g and restack circle - okay with slider end also 00:43:138 (3,4) - ctrl+g - not this
  10. 00:48:256 (1,2) - place them in double too - it's refering to the huitar sound
  11. 00:56:020 (3,4) - thats not looks like 1/2 - umm wut
  12. for 2nd kiai there should be similar suggestions as before - done
Thats it from me.
Good luck!
Thanks for modding! will do yours within 24 hours
Dereku
98 posts
Joined May 2013
Dereku

SLM wrote:

Thanks! but I'm sure that +25 is pretty accurate,
Are you sure with +4?
You can check it itself in game. Just play your Second Beat diff with that offsets.
SLM
462 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
SLM
checked with both +25 and +4, +4 sounds more off-beat to me tho.
did you re download the mp3?
Pachiru
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Pachiru
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Chalwa
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Joined August 2014
Chalwa
Hello. From queue.
[General]
  1. Fine.
[Easy]
  1. 00:41:903 (2) - I think after smooth part wirth curve sliders before this straight really doesn't fit here, so better thing which you can make here copy 00:39:785 (3) slider, make Ctrl + J. Now it looks nicer i think.
[Normal]
  1. 00:16:581 (3) - You skipped here very important beat 00:16:759 - here, which is a bit weird, because i can hear this sound is stronger than 00:16:581 -. You can make here circle on 00:16:581 - and then put 1/2 slider. Now it sounds better.
[Hard]
  1. 00:35:550 (1) - In my opinion you should to Ctrl + G this slider, cause it will be more consistency with 00:34:844 (3,4) pattern and i think 00:35:550 (1,2) jump is close enough and nice to aim.
  2. 00:50:373 (4) - What do you think about make this slider parallel with 00:49:667 (1)? I think it looks more aesthetics, cause now 00:50:373 (4) slider is a bit randomely to be honest.
Sorry for shitty mod, take my star.
Very nice map, i hope it will get ranked...
GOOD LUCK!!!
SLM
462 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
SLM

Chalwa wrote:

Hello. From queue.
[General]
  1. Fine.
[Easy]
  1. 00:41:903 (2) - I think after smooth part wirth curve sliders before this straight really doesn't fit here, so better thing which you can make here copy 00:39:785 (3) slider, make Ctrl + J. Now it looks nicer i think. - hmm okay
[Normal]
  1. 00:16:581 (3) - You skipped here very important beat 00:16:759 - here, which is a bit weird, because i can hear this sound is stronger than 00:16:581 -. You can make here circle on 00:16:581 - and then put 1/2 slider. Now it sounds better. - Actually there are lots of other 1/1 sliders skipping the drum snare, probably not gonna change but I might have to think about this more.
[Hard]
  1. 00:35:550 (1) - In my opinion you should to Ctrl + G this slider, cause it will be more consistency with 00:34:844 (3,4) pattern and i think 00:35:550 (1,2) jump is close enough and nice to aim. - nice suggestion but the current one plays pretty well also so keeping it.
  2. 00:50:373 (4) - What do you think about make this slider parallel with 00:49:667 (1)? I think it looks more aesthetics, cause now 00:50:373 (4) slider is a bit randomely to be honest. - sure
Sorry for shitty mod, take my star.
Very nice map, i hope it will get ranked...
GOOD LUCK!!!
Thanks for modding!!


Pachiru wrote:

#whenranked?
c:
Akitoshi
2,684 posts
Joined August 2014
Akitoshi
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Normal
  1. 00:28:482 (1) - uhm why spinner while the instruments are still not that calm yet? Even your Easy was mapped on this part. Maybe keeping consistency on lower diff would be great here i guess
  2. 00:32:726 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 00:35:550 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 00:40:667 (5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 1/2 beat chains are way too long as Normal, I recommend you to make some 1/1 gap here because they are actually harder than your kiai sections tbh
  3. 01:27:785 (1) - same as first one
Hard
  1. 00:31:315 (1,2) - I would like to swap NC for the switching rhythm, as the different instrument starts on 00:31:844 -
Second Beat
  1. 00:08:411 (3) - I suggest to make this rounded slider downward instead for the flow with 00:08:766 (1) - , like blanketing the 00:09:121 (3) - maybe raise the sliderhead upward so ur tail won't go offscreen
    yep this isn't offscreen yet
  2. 00:25:462 (3) - 01:07:844 (3) - 01:24:785 (3) - same ^
  3. 00:27:416 (3,3) - this overlaps looks kinda off atm since they're both visible, maybe at least make sth parallel with those sliders
  4. 01:26:726 (3,3) - ^
nice map, but am I the only one who feels copy-pasted on some part??? Maybe BN's don't approve with that copypaste method so ye


https://osu.ppy.sh/s/506291 pls mod only 1 diff as my mod is very short
gl and have a star~
SLM
462 posts
Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
SLM

Akitoshi wrote:

a

Normal
  1. 00:28:482 (1) - uhm why spinner while the instruments are still not that calm yet? Even your Easy was mapped on this part. Maybe keeping consistency on lower diff would be great here i guess - fixed
  2. 00:32:726 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 00:35:550 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 00:40:667 (5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 1/2 beat chains are way too long as Normal, I recommend you to make some 1/1 gap here because they are actually harder than your kiai sections tbh - I don't think it should be a problem, but changed slightly anyway
  3. 01:27:785 (1) - same as first one - fixed
Hard
  1. 00:31:315 (1,2) - I would like to swap NC for the switching rhythm, as the different instrument starts on 00:31:844 - - no cuz I want follow points to appear towards (2).
Second Beat
  1. 00:08:411 (3) - I suggest to make this rounded slider downward instead for the flow with 00:08:766 (1) - , like blanketing the 00:09:121 (3) - maybe raise the sliderhead upward so ur tail won't go offscreen - I kinda intended this flow, soooo
    yep this isn't offscreen yet
  2. 00:25:462 (3) - 01:07:844 (3) - 01:24:785 (3) - same ^
  3. 00:27:416 (3,3) - this overlaps looks kinda off atm since they're both visible, maybe at least make sth parallel with those sliders - okay
  4. 01:26:726 (3,3) - ^ - fixed
nice map, but am I the only one who feels copy-pasted on some part??? Maybe BN's don't approve with that copypaste method so ye


https://osu.ppy.sh/s/506291 pls mod only 1 diff as my mod is very short
gl and have a star~
Thank you corinn!!




Since lots of ppl are saying this,
About copy paste :
Actually when I mapped this first, I mapped both kiais differently. But cuz of the current repetitive pattern with bisymmetrical half cross screen jumps, I strongly felt 2nd kiai is really off with the map's pattern concept and doesn't balance well with 1st, so I concluded pasting is much better than having a different kiai.
After that I got lots of mods complaining about the paste, so I tried several times to map 2nd kiai but I don't think any of them suited better than the current one.
My thought about this is, It might trigger some mappers when looking through the editor, but it's actually better when it comes to playing the map.
Left
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Joined October 2014
Left

WISPG_G wrote:

hi, m4m from your queue

Lift's Insane
  1. Good dif
heyyyyyy who's LIFT
SLM
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SLM
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Pachiru
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Pachiru
Hey SLM!

Sorry for coming back, I have some suggestions to give you for Second beat. I read your small text about why you copypasted the stuff in the Second beat. I agree with what you saying, but I think that I can give you an suggestion that could clear this problem, and it's not that hard to fix that.
There is a solution to that:

• Change the angle of your Kiai part. Like something 90° or you could do something like Monstrata did with his Mitsuha and Taki's diff. Even if it's still the same patterns, that would give an new interesting view.

I know that you don't want to change this. But I think that just inverting the first Kiai is not enough to give a diversity into both Kiai, I think it can be more than that, but to keep a... "similarity", you can keep the same pattern style. I think the only thing that could be a problem here is the placements of the notes.

Good luck with it bro :)
And please, rank it, because I want to have a Ranked score on it ! :D
SLM
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Topic Starter
SLM
@Pachiru
Thank you!
Not gonna 90° the whole section but I got the idea! Thank mr monstata
I'll probably try some little variations at kiai.
Again, Huge thanks for the inspiration!! <3<3 :)

I would like to give kds for that if u want btw

Edit : Changed slightly, but hopefullly it should be enough imo
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SLM
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UndeadCapulet
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UndeadCapulet
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017-02-26 20:13 SLM: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1168441 kyubae - begging m3]
2017-02-26 20:13 UndeadCapulet: ah same one, alright
2017-02-26 20:15 UndeadCapulet: lol arent these just default combocolours but without red?
2017-02-26 20:15 SLM: yep
2017-02-26 20:15 UndeadCapulet: that's silly :P
2017-02-26 20:15 UndeadCapulet: i guess it fits w/ your bg tho lol
2017-02-26 20:16 SLM: lol ikr
2017-02-26 20:17 UndeadCapulet: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1168441 kyubae - begging m3 [Second Beat]]
2017-02-26 20:17 UndeadCapulet: 00:03:615 (4) - probably nc here to fit with vocals better?
2017-02-26 20:17 UndeadCapulet: and then maybe remove 00:02:904 (1) - nc
2017-02-26 20:17 SLM: hmmm okay
2017-02-26 20:18 SLM: yeah it looks better
2017-02-26 20:19 UndeadCapulet: i feel like putting a 1/2 slider at places like 00:09:654 (6) - and 01:09:079 (6) - works better than the 1/1 gaps
2017-02-26 20:19 UndeadCapulet: it fits with the rhythm you use at 01:27:609 (3) -
2017-02-26 20:22 SLM: hmm but drum here 01:27:785 - is pretty strong compared to 00:09:832 - or 01:09:256 -
2017-02-26 20:22 UndeadCapulet: ah true
2017-02-26 20:22 UndeadCapulet: though 00:09:832 - also has a vocal beat to it
2017-02-26 20:22 SLM: and I want different rhythm with 01:07:844 (3) - 00:08:411 (3) -
2017-02-26 20:23 SLM: cuz they sound like meeeeee
2017-02-26 20:23 UndeadCapulet: haha sure
2017-02-26 20:23 UndeadCapulet: maybe put a circle then? because there is a vocal beat there, singer says "the" both times
2017-02-26 20:25 SLM: hmmmmmm I still think 1/1 gap is better than a circle tho
2017-02-26 20:25 UndeadCapulet: hmm ok
2017-02-26 20:26 UndeadCapulet: im not really sure why the spacing at 00:20:134 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - is so much bigger than 00:22:975 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
2017-02-26 20:26 UndeadCapulet: 00:17:469 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - worked well because the spacing was building into the new verse
2017-02-26 20:27 UndeadCapulet: but 00:22:975 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - is kinda just
2017-02-26 20:27 UndeadCapulet: small
2017-02-26 20:28 SLM: yeah true, might have to fix it
2017-02-26 20:28 UndeadCapulet: same thing at 01:22:314 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ~
2017-02-26 20:29 UndeadCapulet: everything else seems fine to me, cool usage of spacing to work with vocals and stuff :3
2017-02-26 20:29 SLM: Yep. Thanks c:
2017-02-26 20:31 UndeadCapulet: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1169545 kyubae - begging m3 [Hard]]
2017-02-26 20:32 UndeadCapulet: surprised that 00:25:107 (3,4) - is stacked when in the higher diff this was much more intense in spacing than 00:27:061 (1,2,3) -
2017-02-26 20:33 UndeadCapulet: it's fine to do different things in different diffs, i just wanna make sure you're intentions are coming through properly
2017-02-26 20:35 SLM: yeah it's intended to be stacked cuz 00:25:107 (3,4) - the vocal's pitch is same.
2017-02-26 20:35 UndeadCapulet: alright cool
2017-02-26 20:36 UndeadCapulet: everything else seems fine lol
2017-02-26 20:37 SLM: lol okay c:
2017-02-26 20:37 UndeadCapulet: 00:03:615 (1,2) - looks a bit like 1/2, but not too bad
2017-02-26 20:37 SLM: oh true
2017-02-26 20:39 UndeadCapulet: oh yeah actually 00:01:483 (2,3,1) - are all the same spacing which is kinda awkward in a hard ^^'
2017-02-26 20:40 SLM: yeah but i think it should be fine cuz it's intro.
2017-02-26 20:40 UndeadCapulet: right
2017-02-26 20:41 UndeadCapulet: (im stretching at this point cuz this set is small and needs bn checks more than actual mods)
2017-02-26 20:42 UndeadCapulet: lower diffs are fine
2017-02-26 20:42 UndeadCapulet: sorry for short modding, but its a small set >.<'
2017-02-26 20:43 SLM: Yeah it's fine xD Thank you!
2017-02-26 20:44 UndeadCapulet: np :3
Pachiru
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Pachiru
By the way, can we have a confirmation of the metadata or else? Because I can't find the song on YouTube or anywhere else, and I really want to have some informations about the song if you have! o:
SLM
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Joined February 2015
Topic Starter
SLM
Yeah, I couldn't find the song other than soundcloud either.
Anyway here's the soundcloud link :
https://soundcloud.com/kyubae/begging-m3
polka
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polka


[General:]
  • I HAVE THIS SONG JAMMED IN MY HEAD OMFG
    I can't hear your custom samples at all.
    I wish you would have used some custom colors. I feel these defaulty ones kind of take away from the personalization of the map.
[Easy:]
  • This is one intense easy mode haha.
    00:18:535 - Your patterns get very repetitive here. Try to vary it up! Beginners can get bored, too! Happens in the second chorus too!
[Normal:]
  • 00:03:615 (2) - Not sure your audience will know how to play this. Maybe try http://imgur.com/a/Nb9DV
    Your chorus is very confusing. Are you mapping to the background music or vocals? You can't keep switching because it makes things very confusing for your audience, as they don't know what they are supposed to be paying attention to.
    00:14:272 (4,5,6,7) - Too hard. Simplify this down. I would dump 00:14:983 (6) - for a circle at 00:15:160 - to keep following the music.
    [list:1337]There are numerous things like this where 1/2 strings are just way too long for your target audience to understand. Think of normal as 1/1 mapping with an introduction to 1/2 patterns as opposed to what's happening here: 1/2 mapping with an introduction to 1/1 patterns.
00:17:114 (4) - If you're going to map vocals here, delete this.
  • 00:22:798 (4) - ^
00:42:256 (4) - 1/2 slider here?
  • 00:47:903 (4) - ^
    00:53:550 (4) - ^
01:06:609 (1) - Don't copy and paste!! It's a minute long song! Be creative and map your second chorus! Never take the lazy way out, as it detracts from the quality. Now that I look, it also happens in your other difficulties. PLEASE redo this and map the full song! Your audience will really appreciate it.[Hard:]
  • 00:25:107 (3,4,1) - This overlap is really confusing. Move (1) somewhere else. Perhaps up?
    [list:1337]00:48:962 (3,1) - Also confusing here. please try something else.
00:32:726 - Why so many useless inherited points? You didn't change anything?
01:05:373 (1,2) - Stack. This spacing will mess up your audience.[Afteword:]
  • Please please please please PLEASE Don't copy and paste! Especially since the song is a minute long. If you're not going to do you best in anything you do, why do it?
SLM
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Topic Starter
SLM
PolkaMocha

PolkaMocha wrote:



[General:]
  • I HAVE THIS SONG JAMMED IN MY HEAD OMFG - CALCULATED
    I can't hear your custom samples at all. - To me it's audible, It's probably cuz of the default normal sampleset, but I prefer using as it is.
    I wish you would have used some custom colors. I feel these defaulty ones kind of take away from the personalization of the map. - ^ I like default ones as I said, so probably not changing this
[Easy:]
  • This is one intense easy mode haha.
    00:18:535 - Your patterns get very repetitive here. Try to vary it up! Beginners can get bored, too! Happens in the second chorus too! - but I don't want to change the current flow going to the top right corner and reversing.
[Normal:]
  • 00:03:615 (2) - Not sure your audience will know how to play this. Maybe try http://imgur.com/a/Nb9DV - changed a bit
    Your chorus is very confusing. Are you mapping to the background music or vocals? You can't keep switching because it makes things very confusing for your audience, as they don't know what they are supposed to be paying attention to. - I switched between them what I think is more important at that part. I think it's not that confusing, since the rhythm is quite repetitive with little variations.
    00:14:272 (4,5,6,7) - Too hard. Simplify this down. I would dump 00:14:983 (6) - for a circle at 00:15:160 - to keep following the music.
    [list:1337]There are numerous things like this where 1/2 strings are just way too long for your target audience to understand. Think of normal as 1/1 mapping with an introduction to 1/2 patterns as opposed to what's happening here: 1/2 mapping with an introduction to 1/1 patterns.
    - Since the Easy is kinda "hard" Easy, this long chain of 1/2s should be fine imo.
00:17:114 (4) - If you're going to map vocals here, delete this. - but imo the drum's too strong to just skip.
  • 00:22:798 (4) - ^
00:42:256 (4) - 1/2 slider here? - Okay
  • 00:47:903 (4) - ^ - kk
    00:53:550 (4) - ^ - ^
01:06:609 (1) - Don't copy and paste!! It's a minute long song! Be creative and map your second chorus! Never take the lazy way out, as it detracts from the quality. Now that I look, it also happens in your other difficulties. PLEASE redo this and map the full song! Your audience will really appreciate it. - yep[Hard:]
  • 00:25:107 (3,4,1) - This overlap is really confusing. Move (1) somewhere else. Perhaps up? - Hmm sure
    [list:1337]00:48:962 (3,1) - Also confusing here. please try something else. - I think it should be ok since it's a slider.
00:32:726 - Why so many useless inherited points? You didn't change anything? - Fixed
01:05:373 (1,2) - Stack. This spacing will mess up your audience. - Hmm but I think stacking will be more confusing cuz of the 1/2 stack right before this. Probably will change this in other way.[Afteword:]
  • Please please please please PLEASE Don't copy and paste! Especially since the song is a minute long. If you're not going to do you best in anything you do, why do it? - Yep. Right now I'm remapping the 99% of the last diff (this really drains my hp ;-;) & partially for other diffs. Will update your mods with them.

Thanks for modding!!
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