Manaka Kataoka & Atsuko Asahi - Gozen 1-ji (Rain) · forum

Hobbes2

Beatmap Nominator

Joined March 2016

Hobbes2 2017-08-22T18:15:36+00:00

[Beginner]

great for 3 year olds

00:37:884 (1) - This slider is perfect

[Renumi Beginner]

ok

[Easy]

00:10:124 (1,2) - blanket lol
00:22:661 - these bell sounds only happen here so you could do this to make it stand out!! - http://puu.sh/xgJPV/2bdc1beed0.jpg (basically split up 00:21:765 (3) - to circle + 1/1 slider)
00:57:586 (4) - this slider is perfect

[Gero Easy]

ok

[Novice]

00:07:437 (3,4,1) - clean up spacing a .05 difference is noticeably visually
00:08:332 - so noisy

quieter hitsound pls?
00:22:213 - I don't think a slider bounce is enough for this. I'd map it out.
00:58:034 - Again, pls map. You do red tick rhythm earlier so why not here?

[Normal]

00:10:124 (2,3) - This particular overlap looks kinda ugly to me, cos its only overlapping the sliderborder which is (puke)

[Advanced]

ok

[ezek hard]

ok

[Noffy Hard]

00:08:332 - noisy hitsound

[Hard]

00:14:601 (3) - This shape is kinda ugly to me lol, guess its alright tho

[Atsuro hyper]

The slowdown thing is cool.

Spacing overall feels a bit weird to me. Please see Nozhomi's mod and respond to him because I agree with his points.

[Rainy]

00:02:288 - these slider tails are super noisy to me. I think you should reduce the volume for them. TBH whatever hitsound 00:06:542 (10)'s tail has just use that lol

Call me when everyone is respond

Noffy

Nomination Assessment Team

1,492 posts

Joined April 2012

Noffy 2017-08-22T19:00:53+00:00

polka did hitsounds but that was randomly the only slidertail going into silence with that hitsound in my difficulty for some reason so i went ahead and removed it/ fixed it.
thanko

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 497
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Gozen 1-ji (Rain)
TitleUnicode:午前1時 (Rain)
Artist:Manaka Kataoka & Atsuko Asahi
ArtistUnicode:朝日温子 & 片岡真央
Creator:PolkaMocha
Version:1:31 AM (Noffy's Hard)
Source:とびだせ どうぶつの森
Tags:Renumi Gero Hobbes2 ezek Noffy Atsuro Animal Crossing: Crossing New Leaf Nintendo Game Slow Calm Xylophone Rainy 1 one am a.m. am. version short 3DS 1am
BeatmapID:1167403
BeatmapSetID:550486

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OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:6
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polka

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Topic Starter

polka 2017-08-22T21:36:37+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
[Beginner]

great for 3 year olds Meow

00:37:884 (1) - This slider is perfect ur perfect

[Renumi Beginner]

ok

[Easy]

00:10:124 (1,2) - blanket lol k
00:22:661 - these bell sounds only happen here so you could do this to make it stand out!! - http://puu.sh/xgJPV/2bdc1beed0.jpg (basically split up 00:21:765 (3) - to circle + 1/1 slider) Good idea but idk Ima just keep main rhythm here.
00:57:586 (4) - this slider is perfect ur perfect

[Gero Easy]

ok

[Novice]

00:07:437 (3,4,1) - clean up spacing a .05 difference is noticeably visually u right
00:08:332 - so noisy quieter hitsound pls? Nop because quiet hitsounds are laaaaAAme
00:22:213 - I don't think a slider bounce is enough for this. I'd map it out. Mapping the main rhythm so I figured I'd include this at least.
00:58:034 - Again, pls map. You do red tick rhythm earlier so why not here? Done

[Normal]

00:10:124 (2,3) - This particular overlap looks kinda ugly to me, cos its only overlapping the sliderborder which is (puke) Looks fine to me not sure what else to do

[Advanced]

ok

[ezek hard]

ok

[Noffy Hard]

00:08:332 - noisy hitsound See above. Im keeping the tick tock consistent throughout the whole song.

[Hard]

00:14:601 (3) - This shape is kinda ugly to me lol, guess its alright tho Changed.

[Atsuro hyper]

The slowdown thing is cool.

Spacing overall feels a bit weird to me. Please see Nozhomi's mod and respond to him because I agree with his points.

[Rainy]

00:02:288 - these slider tails are super noisy to me. I think you should reduce the volume for them. TBH whatever hitsound 00:06:542 (10)'s tail has just use that lol muted alllllll the slider tails

Call me when everyone is respond

God bless you.

Waiting on Atsuro!! ouo b

Atsuro

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Joined January 2013

Atsuro 2017-08-23T00:23:23+00:00

Oh i didnt answer to nozhomi's mod, i literally remade the map in answer to that, making it more consistent (with the same concept and ideas)

Hobbes2

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Hobbes2 2017-08-23T03:20:12+00:00

@Atsuro Alright, fair enough.

Generally I feel like patterns could do more with what the music provides. ex: 00:07:437 - is clearly a more pronounced sound than 00:06:989 - but the spacing is the same due to the geometric pattern.

Also this diff feels inconsistent in parts with similar music having big changes in the patterns, like 00:11:019 (4,5,6,7) - has a spaicng increase to 5 when 00:27:138 (1,2,3,4) - has it to 3 when the music doesn't really justify such a change.

A neat diff in terms of its construction but I think these issues warrant further discussion. All of this being said it's not THAT bad so I may be fine with bubbling given a good response.

Atsuro

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Joined January 2013

Atsuro 2017-08-24T03:11:13+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
@Atsuro Alright, fair enough.

Generally I feel like patterns could do more with what the music provides. ex: 00:07:437 - is clearly a more pronounced sound than 00:06:989 - but the spacing is the same due to the geometric pattern. Having an increase in spacing just doesnt feel right to me because, while it's more pronounced, it's not really a strong note that warrants a big change (contrary to this one 00:08:780 (6) - ). Having the slow slider i think is enough to represent this properly i think

Also this diff feels inconsistent in parts with similar music having big changes in the patterns, like 00:11:019 (4,5,6,7) - has a spaicng increase to 5 when 00:27:138 (1,2,3,4) - has it to 3 when the music doesn't really justify such a change. It's not the same part exactly, this 00:27:138 - would be the same notes as 00:12:810 - and, while those are sliders, it gives the same notes the most emphasis. 00:11:019 (4,5,6,7) - These are the same as 00:25:347 (3,4,5,6) - which are placed in a similar way (jump on the second note and same spacing on last three). All said i did find some inconsistencies that i ended up fixing (00:18:183 (4,5,6,7) - this aa)

A neat diff in terms of its construction but I think these issues warrant further discussion. All of this being said it's not THAT bad so I may be fine with bubbling given a good response.

Thanks!
Update: https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B1A_nVu ... jZJcFlLMVE

polka

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polka 2017-08-25T01:34:39+00:00

so apparently qats dont like this

this should be fun.

Hobbes2

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Hobbes2 2017-08-25T02:32:40+00:00

Summary of discussion I had with most of the qats

1) There's an issue brought up that the lower diffs are redundant; as in, the design of the lower diffs don't differ enough to warrant their existence.

2) I believe nobody said that it isn't inherently unrankable as is, but most agreed it didn't seem very reasonable.

Thoughts? Obviously given my star I think the spread should be fine but I can see the arguments against it.

polka

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polka 2017-08-25T02:35:43+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
Summary of discussion I had with most of the qats

1) There's an issue brought up that the lower diffs are redundant; as in, the design of the lower diffs don't differ enough to warrant their existence. I'd be more than happy to vary my pattern choice separate my diffs by making them more original, but the process of remodding I think is just so extra. As No Title has the same extra at least more than twice.

2) I believe nobody said that it isn't inherently unrankable as is, but most agreed it didn't seem very reasonable. With the huge growth of million gd spreads I can see why this is getting annoying. But I made this before those were popular sheerly because I wanted to give people as many ways to enjoy the song, as it is my absolute favorite from this whole series.

Thoughts? Obviously given my star I think the spread should be fine but I can see the arguments against it.

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2017-08-29T12:32:09+00:00

My point of view on that is like... is it really necessary? It does seem really redundant in most of the cases. Obviously, there can be the argument as to "why do you need so many extras?" But imo that's something else, because people most of the times have different styles, which is actually hard to say in those easy diffs.

You could deifnitely ditch some of the very first diffs, because I do not see too much benefit of having so many similar diffs.
Beginner really does not offer a lot, apart from the sliders which follow the music in an interesting way, but this can be found in Easy as well, for example.

If you could elaborate on what exactly makes each diff unique, then please go ahead and I might be able to see your point of view!

polka

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polka 2017-08-30T00:21:24+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
My point of view on that is like... is it really necessary? It does seem really redundant in most of the cases. Obviously, there can be the argument as to "why do you need so many extras?" But imo that's something else, because people most of the times have different styles, which is actually hard to say in those easy diffs.

You could deifnitely ditch some of the very first diffs, because I do not see too much benefit of having so many similar diffs.
Beginner really does not offer a lot, apart from the sliders which follow the music in an interesting way, but this can be found in Easy as well, for example.

If you could elaborate on what exactly makes each diff unique, then please go ahead and I might be able to see your point of view!

Hi! Personally I can understand the whole can get a bit redundant thing but when you mention the sliders, the siders in beginner do follow the rhythm the same way the sliders in easy do, but the difference is that easy is more dense than beginner, so they're theoretically, while alike, not the same. Additionally in Maps like reols no title there are several Difficulties that follow the exact same rhythm, and if not the exact same, very close. But if you would like me to add some more rhythmic variation in my personal difficulties so that way the guesy difficulties can stand out a bit more I can definitely do that so let me know what you'd like.

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2017-09-01T23:57:28+00:00

The more we can agree on a compromise, the better. So if you could do things to fix the problem as good as possible, then that's the best solution!

I advise against comparing to other mapsets though, cuz we look at this mapset how it is right now, and not how 300 other mapsets were or currently are (at which you should state your opinion immediately, if you find something).

polka

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polka 2017-09-04T20:16:30+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
The more we can agree on a compromise, the better. So if you could do things to fix the problem as good as possible, then that's the best solution!

I advise against comparing to other mapsets though, cuz we look at this mapset how it is right now, and not how 300 other mapsets were or currently are (at which you should state your opinion immediately, if you find something).

Okay, so would you say it would be better to have more unique patterns on my diffs to help the gds feel more different/unique?

polka

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polka 2017-12-05T23:04:02+00:00

waiting on hobbes!

Hobbes2

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Hobbes2 2017-12-06T00:22:36+00:00

remove me from tags

00:07:437 (12) - and shouldnt the tail of this be silenced, noisy hitsound on nothing is kinda meh (topdiff)

polka

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polka 2017-12-06T13:47:53+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
remove me from tags

00:07:437 (12) - and shouldnt the tail of this be silenced, noisy hitsound on nothing is kinda meh (topdiff)

the clock sound is designed to play through the whole song. Sorry for the confusion.

Removed you from tags haha

Hobbes2

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Hobbes2 2017-12-07T00:01:10+00:00

b

polka

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polka 2017-12-07T00:06:46+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
b

THANK YOU

Sinnoh

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Sinnoh 2017-12-08T06:03:25+00:00

should add PolkaMocha to the tags

polka

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polka 2017-12-08T23:06:18+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
should add PolkaMocha to the tags

Ah ur right Ill do that thanks!!

Plaudible

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Plaudible 2018-01-22T01:18:36+00:00

helo here to help u rank qt song qt set

General

Check soft-hitwhistle.wav, seems it might have a small delay

Easy

01:03:407 (1) - feels a little on the short end, could you snap it to the 1/4 before for a little extra time?

Gero's Easy

00:18:183 (2) - Shape feels a little tight for this diff, could you unfold it a bit more?
01:02:959 (1) - Never did 2 measure NC's before this, imo you could un-NC this just fine

Novice

00:58:482 (5,6,1) - Rhythm variation here from 00:21:765 (3,4,1) - feels a bit weird, since it's a short and simple song just keeping this the same rhythmically would be more fitting imo

Normal

00:58:034 (6) - reverse like at 00:22:213 (7) - ?

Advanced

00:14:601 (3,1) - blanket pls

ezek's Hard

00:10:124 (2,3) - IMO spacing here is way too big, even following DS, compare to 00:53:109 (2,3) - something is off. http://puu.sh/z6MAh/d7329a169f.jpg

Hard

00:18:183 (4,5) - Feels weird to stack these given 00:16:392 (1,2) - aren't

Atsuro's Hyper

00:28:929 (5) - Curious, why go with a slowdown here? Missing all the 1/2 slider action you had before

Top diff looks good enough, though some combos drag on for a bit imo

As previously discussed it seems a lot of the lower diffs have odd 2/1 rhythms that cover a lot of the melody that I feel could be included more, so please take another look at that.
Call me bekbekbek

polka

1,070 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

polka 2018-01-22T02:29:06+00:00

All fixed on my end. Waiting on Atsuro and ezek.

As for the highest diff, I like the lengthy combos idk why adds to the aesthetic if that remotely makes any sense.
As for the 2/1 rhythms in earlier difficulties, note the slider shapes that capture covered melodies via red anchors. I had to keep density low and include sliders. So it's natural certain things get covered up.

Atsuro

1,279 posts

Joined January 2013

Atsuro 2018-01-22T02:58:29+00:00

Plaudible wrote:
helo here to help u rank qt song qt set

Atsuro's Hyper
00:28:929 (5) - Curious, why go with a slowdown here? Missing all the 1/2 slider action you had before It's consistent with the other ones,
or you're talking about spacing?

wthanks

Gero

4,415 posts

Joined March 2012

Gero 2018-01-23T04:08:04+00:00

Changed both things.

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Zekeyache

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Joined October 2009

Zekeyache 2018-01-23T06:12:41+00:00

k fixed

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milr_

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Joined June 2014

milr_ 2018-01-23T06:28:05+00:00

=u=b

polka

1,070 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

polka 2018-01-23T14:11:35+00:00

[ White Music ] wrote:
=u=b

<3

polka

1,070 posts

Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

polka 2018-01-24T05:24:17+00:00

Okay so it's been updated everyone's responded basically everything's fixed PLAUD THE WORLD IS WAITING

Zekeyache

3,274 posts

Joined October 2009

Zekeyache 2018-01-25T18:24:06+00:00

za warudo is waiting

Plaudible

1,018 posts

Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2018-01-26T01:53:22+00:00

Janssen wrote:
Plaudible wrote:
helo here to help u rank qt song qt set

Atsuro's Hyper
00:28:929 (5) - Curious, why go with a slowdown here? Missing all the 1/2 slider action you had before It's consistent with the other ones,
or you're talking about spacing?
wthanks

http://puu.sh/z9Lur/1750c8fa10.jpg vs http://puu.sh/z9LuJ/e2b64a3f0c.jpg cosntant 1/2 vs 1/1 gaps at times

@polka maybe add Janssen to tags?

polka

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Joined March 2014

Topic Starter

polka 2018-01-26T03:10:45+00:00

Ill do that when Atsuro sends me his update.

Atsuro

1,279 posts

Joined January 2013

Atsuro 2018-01-26T21:21:36+00:00

Song has less notes starting there, it made sense to me at the time to use less stuff (and it still does)