17:46 zev: 00:01:171 (1,2,3,4) - what rhythm is this follwong
17:47 N0thing: what what
17:47 zev: the japanese thing or somth or the synth
17:47 N0thing: I'll follow that dan ding thingy
17:47 N0thing: and replace it with the shh sound
17:47 N0thing: uhh
17:48 zev: try rhythm like this
http://puu.sh/umlZL/c28c241a68.png17:48 N0thing: sorry, I don't have a clue what you are talking about q.q
17:48 zev: There are synths you've missed out
17:48 zev: this sound you follow 00:02:371 (2) -
17:48 N0thing: uhh
17:48 N0thing: wait, the first one
17:48 N0thing: what about the dang
17:49 zev: you don't follow it here 00:01:171 (1,2,3,4) -
17:49 zev: lol
17:49 N0thing: shouldn't it start on the same slider
17:49 N0thing: OOH
17:49 N0thing: there was one there O_O
17:49 N0thing: AAAAH
17:49 N0thing: woah woah woah
17:49 zev: yeah those sytnhs
17:49 N0thing: there really was one
17:49 zev: here you have the synth on the sliderhead 00:01:171 (1) -
17:50 N0thing: nice
17:50 zev: here you have the synth on the sliderend 00:01:722 -
17:50 zev: That's poor rhythm
17:50 N0thing: wait
17:50 N0thing: wut
17:50 N0thing: there's no beat
17:50 N0thing: nvm 1/6
17:50 N0thing: I hate this map
17:50 zev: 00:01:171 - SYNTH 1
17:50 N0thing: first it's 1/4 then 1/6
17:50 zev: 00:01:621 - SYNTH 2
17:50 N0thing: ok
17:50 N0thing: thanks
17:50 zev: what 1/4 or 1/6 lol
17:50 N0thing: didn't hear synth
17:50 zev: I don't hear any 1/4 1/6
17:51 N0thing: it's 1/4 at the beginning
17:51 zev: oh i do but thts not important kek
17:51 N0thing: and somewhere in the middle is 1/6
17:51 zev: are you following the 1/4 or the synth
17:51 zev: .-.
17:51 N0thing: idk
17:51 zev: LOL
17:51 N0thing: I tried my best
17:52 zev: try following one thing at a time lol
17:52 N0thing: I couldn't hear those damn synths
17:52 N0thing: thanks XD
17:52 N0thing: pls continue o.o
17:52 zev: wow map went into
17:52 zev: instant cluttermode
17:52 zev: 00:04:021 (3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) -
17:52 zev: what happed
17:52 N0thing: clutter?
17:53 N0thing: oh, I followed the dang dang
17:53 zev: It suddenly became cluttered
17:53 N0thing: hmm
17:53 zev: This rhythm is nice 00:04:771 (1,2,3,4,5) -
17:53 N0thing: should I increase the DS?
17:53 N0thing: naw
17:53 zev: well the placement is kinda odd tbh
17:54 N0thing: but I need to change these
17:54 N0thing: 00:04:021 (3,1,2,3) -
17:54 zev: the stars aren't even equal
17:54 N0thing: wut
17:54 N0thing: damn grid mode
17:54 zev: what, never map with grid
17:54 zev: NEVER
17:54 N0thing: ik
17:54 N0thing: qwq
17:54 N0thing: but only after this map
17:54 N0thing: this is my 2nd map
17:55 N0thing: (serious map, there was my first map, but... I didn't know how to end slider and crashed osu)
17:55 N0thing: (so I don't count it
17:55 zev: you should learn how to arrange stuff more organized
17:55 zev: and use
17:55 zev: polygon tool for stars
17:56 zev: ctrl+shift+d
17:56 zev: do u k no w h o w
17:56 N0thing: yes
17:56 N0thing: I blame grid
17:56 N0thing: have pushed that star around
17:56 N0thing: then I inserted a circle
17:56 N0thing: and... stuff happened
17:56 zev: yeah, grid makes your map have minor spacing inconsistenties everwwhere
17:57 N0thing: I hate DS Q_Q
17:57 zev: also
17:57 zev: 00:03:871 - there is still a synth here
17:57 zev: so do this reverse slider 00:03:571 (2) -
17:57 zev: Try ending sliders
17:58 zev: When the synth ends
17:58 zev: or a hold sound
17:58 zev: did u got thta
17:58 zev: t
17:59 zev: can't you hear the synth?
17:59 zev: .-.
18:01 N0thing: it's
18:01 N0thing: well
18:01 N0thing: let's just say my audio is shit
18:01 zev: also why is there a x0.8 sv change here 00:02:071 -
18:01 zev: the song keeps exactly the same lol
18:02 N0thing: I need the extra space qwq
18:02 zev: sv change sbut nothing happends in the song does that make sense to u kk
18:02 zev: kek
18:02 N0thing: ima make the beginning 0.8
18:02 zev: 00:04:171 (1,2,3) - this has different spacing then before too
18:02 zev: what spacing did you even use
18:03 zev: just random?
18:03 zev: it's suddenly small there :/
18:03 N0thing: then
18:03 N0thing: how should I dpo
18:03 N0thing: do
18:03 N0thing: it
18:03 N0thing: I made it in a small star shape
18:04 N0thing:
http://puu.sh/umn5r/48db7a2a1a.jpg18:04 N0thing: need to ear
18:04 N0thing: t
18:04 zev: I mean why do these have smaller spacing then before 00:04:171 (1,2,3) -
18:05 N0thing: they have a smaller spacing?
18:05 zev: yes
18:05 N0thing: can't see it anymore since I
http://puu.sh/umn5r/48db7a2a1a.jpg18:05 N0thing: turned it into this
18:05 zev: these are like 1.45x~
18:05 N0thing: that high?
18:05 zev: and normal spacing is like 00:03:421 (1,2) - 1.7x
18:06 zev: or 1.6*
18:06 N0thing: woah, why have I been using this DS
18:06 zev: lul
18:06 zev: random spacing changes are odd
18:06 N0thing: I changed it
18:06 N0thing: dw
18:06 zev: they happen if u forget to swap ds or somth
18:07 N0thing: I want to fry that DS
18:07 N0thing: and eat it along with my meal
18:07 N0thing: anyways
18:07 N0thing: afk eating
18:07 zev: ok can i post logz
18:07 *N0thing is away: eating
18:07 zev: xd
18:09 zev: awh, you need structure
18:09 zev: ;w;
18:14 N0thing: how to get
18:14 N0thing: that structure
18:14 N0thing: naw, this is far from over
18:14 zev: oh wb
18:14 N0thing: ty
18:15 zev: structure is keeping the map same when the song keeps the same and changing the map when the song changes
18:15 zev: it has to do with consistency and variation
18:15 N0thing: o.o
18:15 N0thing: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
18:16 N0thing: ALL OF MY 50 HOURS HAVE BEEN WASTED ON MAKING EVERYTHING THE SAME AND FLOW NICELY
18:16 N0thing: WHY
18:16 N0thing: You are just breaking my heart
18:16 N0thing: gimme some links so that you can post log and I can give you kudosu safely
18:16 N0thing: I fear that a mod will stalk you
18:17 zev: 00:25:171 (1) - here the song changes
18:17 zev: but you didn't really catch that aspect of the song in your map
18:17 N0thing: there was a change o.o
18:17 N0thing: ?
18:17 N0thing: you are talking about hte break, right?
18:18 N0thing: if yes,then I actually mapped that
18:18 zev: there is a kick every white and red tick on that part
18:18 N0thing: the song was pausingfor a moment
18:18 N0thing: oh
18:18 N0thing: OOh
18:18 N0thing: damnit
18:18 N0thing: wherelse
18:19 zev: 00:10:771 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) -
18:19 zev: 00:19:921 (1,1,2,3,4,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,1) -
18:19 zev: these parts in the song are the same
18:20 zev: you've used somewhat the same rhythm and placement
18:20 zev: that's good
18:20 zev: but
18:20 zev: 00:25:171 (1) - LISTEN TO THE SONG
18:20 zev: IT DOES KICKS AND YOU DIDNT CHANGE THE MAP
18:21 N0thing: kick?
18:21 zev: don't' your it?
18:21 zev: hear
18:21 N0thing: what do you meanby kick
18:21 zev: bass kick
18:21 N0thing: kick as in that after a drop
18:21 N0thing: oh
18:21 N0thing: I thought I changed hitsounds to that
18:21 N0thing: wtf
18:22 N0thing: where did my hitsound go
18:22 zev: also what is this 00:16:921 (1,2,3,4) -
18:22 zev: ????
18:22 N0thing: okay, idk what the heck I did there
18:22 zev: 00:25:171 (1,1,2,3,4,1) -
18:22 zev: here you kinda like
18:22 zev: stuck to your previous rhythm
18:23 zev: while the song introduces bass kicks each red line and white
18:23 zev: got that?
18:24 N0thing: kinda
18:24 N0thing: so, what am I supposed to do?
18:24 N0thing: is the bass important o.o?
18:24 N0thing: I tried placing the sliders on the red tick
18:24 zev: Well, the bass wasn't there before
18:24 N0thing: and put a circle there
18:24 N0thing: 00:26:221 (4) -
18:25 N0thing: hmm... maybe I need to change it
18:25 zev: 00:15:571 (1,1,2,3,4) - this is your previous rhythm
18:25 N0thing: just hitcircles
18:25 N0thing: OH
18:25 N0thing: OHHH
18:26 N0thing: wait,that's why the red tick here has a sound
18:26 zev: so the bass kicks you hear at 00:25:471 (1,2,3,4) - they are NEW
18:26 zev: Its a NEW sound
18:26 zev: compared to previous part of the song
18:26 zev: ofcourse you need to make changes to that in your rhythm lol
18:26 zev: when the song changes
18:26 N0thing: damn
18:26 zev: map changes
18:26 N0thing: ok
18:27 N0thing: anything else BESIDES that part
18:27 N0thing: you've been pointing out this for the past 4 times (even though I only truly understood it after the last one)
18:27 zev: true
18:27 zev: 00:27:571 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - why all finish
18:27 zev: .-.
18:28 N0thing: what do you hear then? I took the sound closest to that what my audio played
18:28 zev: you've put normal-hitfinish on that whole stream
18:28 zev: doesn't really fit
18:28 zev: lol
18:29 N0thing: drum and whistle or what
18:30 zev: [http://puu.sh/umoRE/dce2a0f1ed.png this] + [http://puu.sh/umoSo/8a30eded41.png this]
18:30 zev: on this WHOLE stream 00:27:571 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) -
18:30 N0thing: kk
18:30 zev: normal-hitfinish is loud as hell
18:30 zev: do you map with a skin?
18:30 N0thing: oh
18:30 N0thing: right now
18:30 N0thing: yes
18:30 N0thing: fuck, forgot to take it off
18:32 zev: new combo's should be on downbeatzzz
18:33 zev: re00:30:871 (1) - remove nc
18:33 N0thing: what
18:33 N0thing: why
18:33 zev: 00:31:171 (3) - add nc
18:33 N0thing: uhh
18:33 zev: Because, that's how songs are structured
18:33 N0thing: okayyyy
18:33 N0thing: 00:30:571 (1) -
18:33 N0thing: there NC?
18:33 zev: the downbeat is when a song goes to the next measure
18:34 zev: if you new combo a song you'll see while mapping how a song kind of works?
18:34 N0thing: wait a moment
18:34 N0thing: I even mapped that way later on
18:34 N0thing: shortly...
18:34 N0thing: wtf...
18:34 zev: do you know how music works
18:35 zev: yes there is a nc
18:35 N0thing: I kinda do
18:35 zev: 00:30:871 (1) - here
18:35 N0thing: but also don't
18:35 N0thing: wait
18:35 zev: why is there a NC there
18:35 N0thing: so there's an NC there after all?
18:35 N0thing: oh
18:36 N0thing: I heard Dan du Dung, Dan di Ding
18:36 zev: [http://puu.sh/umphI/99d63853d9.png it should be just like this]
18:37 zev: New Combo on White long lins
18:37 zev: lines
18:37 zev: in the timeline :/
18:37 zev: there is no dan du dung dan di ding xd
18:37 zev: you could also New combo it like this
http://puu.sh/umppE/199780e8dd.png18:38 zev: Just make sure it make sense with the downbeat/white long tick/line
18:38 N0thing: kk
18:38 N0thing: even though I can't really hear it
18:38 N0thing: when 3 ppl tell you this
18:38 N0thing: then it's probably true
18:38 zev: you can't amp
18:38 zev: map
18:38 zev: with a good headst
18:38 zev: set
18:38 zev: .-.
18:38 N0thing: I want to prove that wrong
18:40 zev: 00:39:571 (1,4,3,3,3,3,3,3,3) - why are all these sliders different?
18:40 zev: this is a case of structure again
18:40 zev: the song just keeps the same
18:40 zev: just copy paste sliders lol
18:41 N0thing: COPY PASTE
18:41 N0thing: NO
18:41 N0thing: the 1st slider is different
18:41 N0thing: the others should be copy paste
18:43 zev: That's it really
18:43 zev: if you want to improve at mapping you'll basically ned
18:43 zev: a better headset
18:43 zev: and work on your structure
18:43 N0thing: sorry, can't really do anything about it
18:43 *zev flies