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campa97
Hi N0thing, thank you very much for your mod ^^ ... i'll work on normal difficulty

N0thing wrote:

hey there, promised M4M

normal
00:22:677 (1,2) - copy paste to this part 00:26:427 (1,2) - and rotate. Else you have a different flow each time.- Fixed
00:28:302 (3,4,5,6) - I don't know why, but these squares bother me. Maybe because it was different before Fixed
00:24:552 (3,4,5,6) - where the slidertail was part of the square... Yeah, that's good ^^
00:55:958 (6) - out of place, check shape again (of the whole combo) i don't know why i have to check it, that's a triangle with a square
00:56:427 (1,2) - sliderposition just like above copy paste (decide which one you want to keep) They are already copied
01:00:177 (1,2) - And put that shape here too What?
the DS in the quiet part (at the beginning) is higher than the DS during the build up 00:37:677 (1) - . The DS is costant in all parts of map
The DS should be lower at the beginning, the DS during the build up a little bit higher. This difficulty is an easy-normal, is better let DS costant
00:38:731 (2,3,4) - change 4 to a slider too like the others and push everything to the white tick on the left side. http://puu.sh/t2KLp/1988261be9.jpg. It felt off timing when it was on the blue tick What? No!
Same goes for combo afterwards
00:47:052 (3,4) - I think it would be better if you play 3 and 4 like 1 and 2 (look at order ascending and descending of the shape) There are already ascending and descending like 1 and 2
01:01:114 (2,3,4,5,6) - not sure wether you should keep to one shape or that polythingy is ok too... up to you, but take a look at it again I checked this pentagon, seems good
01:09:552 (4) - looks kinda awkward in the corner. copy 1 and rotate it maybe? then you wouldn't need to map the only blanket in the whole map o.O is not the only blanket in this map
01:12:833 (3) - emphazise on 3 more please How i can enpazise a circle?
01:27:364 (2) - try ctrl + g It form a good triangle, i like it
Kiai Section: more DS Is an easy-normal difficulty

Generally I like the map and the music Ty. However especially maps for normal difficulity should be mapped with DS I mapped with ds(if you are going to map entire section with nearly one and the same DS then you might not note the difference, but during playing you will note something bothering you while playing.
campa97
Ecco, ti passo la versione più aggiornata ;)
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Nayrus
Hi, so i saw your modreq and tried to mod for the first time :^D

Twilight:

00:28:770 (2,3) - I would put a slider here, just like you did before 00:26:895 (2) -
00:36:270 (2,3) - ^ 00:34:395 (2) -
00:30:645 (2) - Other way around (no slider here), just like the upcoming part, where is no slider 00:32:520 (2,3) -
00:38:028 (2) - I would space it x3.0, so that it looks like a 1/4 gap
... - ^
00:49:864 (5) - ^

00:52:208 (1,2) - Why not move those so that it looks symmetrical, like 00:50:802 (1,2,3,4,1,2) -
00:54:083 (4,5) - Is there a reason for not putting a slider here? It sounds just like the note before
00:57:364 (3,4) - ^ after
01:01:583 (4,5) - ^ before
01:05:333 (4,5) - ^
01:12:833 (4,5) - ^
01:16:583 (4,5) - ^

01:03:458 (4,5) - Why no slider here? // 00:55:958 (4) - Or why a slider here, same notes
00:59:239 (3,4,5,6) - Maybe higher spacing to make it stand out more
01:14:239 (3) - Why no cirles here? ^^^
01:19:864 (3,4,5,6) - 2 Slider just as before and it always nicer to go from a slider into a stream
01:23:028 (2) - same as above 00:38:028 (2)
... - ^
01:32:403 (2) - ^

01:25:958 (7) - 01:24:083 (7,8) - Again exact same notes but different objects
01:32:989 (5) - ^
01:31:114 (5) - 01:23:614 (5,6) - ^
01:34:161 (2,3) - 01:35:333 (3,1) - they have a weird flow i would try a different one

The thing with the repeating of same objects for same notes is just the same for Hard diff, you should look over that too
Topic Starter
CernTheLion

Nayrus wrote:

Hi, so i saw your modreq and tried to mod for the first time :^D

Twilight:

00:28:770 (2,3) - I would put a slider here, just like you did before 00:26:895 (2) - Not everything needs to be equal, since it can also be too much boring (expecially on low BPM songs)
00:36:270 (2,3) - ^ 00:34:395 (2) - ^
00:30:645 (2) - Other way around (no slider here), just like the upcoming part, where is no slider 00:32:520 (2,3) - ^
00:38:028 (2) - I would space it x3.0, so that it looks like a 1/4 gap You kidding? That part is enough confusing for the player, and placing a x3.0 space would make things more confusing :/
... - ^ Ehm...^..(?)
00:49:864 (5) - ^ ^

00:52:208 (1,2) - Why not move those so that it looks symmetrical, like 00:50:802 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Beacause it's for emphasize, like here 01:07:208 (1,2) -
00:54:083 (4,5) - Is there a reason for not putting a slider here? It sounds just like the note before As wrote before, not everything needs to be the same
00:57:364 (3,4) - ^ after ^
01:01:583 (4,5) - ^ before ^
01:05:333 (4,5) - ^ ^
01:12:833 (4,5) - ^ ^
01:16:583 (4,5) - ^ ^

01:03:458 (4,5) - Why no slider here? // 00:55:958 (4) - Or why a slider here, same notes Same as before :roll:
00:59:239 (3,4,5,6) - Maybe higher spacing to make it stand out more I used the same DS on all the map, so, sorry but not :(
01:14:239 (3) - Why no cirles here? ^^^ It's just like here 01:06:739 (3) - (didn't placed circles there too)
01:19:864 (3,4,5,6) - 2 Slider just as before and it always nicer to go from a slider into a stream Okay
01:23:028 (2) - same as above 00:38:028 (2) ^
... - ^ Ehm...^..(?) pt.2
01:32:403 (2) - ^ ^

01:25:958 (7) - 01:24:083 (7,8) - Again exact same notes but different objects ^
01:32:989 (5) - ^ ^
01:31:114 (5) - 01:23:614 (5,6) - ^ ^
01:34:161 (2,3) - 01:35:333 (3,1) - they have a weird flow i would try a different one Yeah, fixed, thanks

The thing with the repeating of same objects for same notes is just the same for Hard diff, you should look over that too I will do it, thanks for modding :D
N0thing
I watched all maps, everytime the offset was shortly after 0:00. In my opinion though, I believe that the offset should be set to 22677. Offset shoulda be okay though :/
Also you might need to change the SV more at times. Pay more attention to rythm, shape and flow. That#s it.[/quote]
Btw, thanks for modding this ;)[/quote]

Offset usually is at the first audible note. You can keep it that way, but I prefer putting the offset on the first note you actually play, as this will make the white ticks stay on their goddamn place.
Topic Starter
CernTheLion

N0thing wrote:

I watched all maps, everytime the offset was shortly after 0:00. In my opinion though, I believe that the offset should be set to 22677. Offset shoulda be okay though :/
Also you might need to change the SV more at times. Pay more attention to rythm, shape and flow. That#s it.
Btw, thanks for modding this ;)

N0thing wrote:

Offset usually is at the first audible note Not always though lol. You can keep it that way, but I prefer putting the offset on the first note you actually play, as this will make the white ticks stay on their goddamn place.
Anyway, I put the offset to the first beat, it shoulda be okay now ;)
Rizevim
quick mod ;)
General
00:52:677 - why this kiai is so short? D: , u can remove it
01:07:677 - ^
campa97's Normal
00:59:473 - add notes here
00:59:942 - u can add notes here
01:14:473 - add notes here
Hard
00:29:473 - add notes here
00:36:973 - ^
GL! :D
Topic Starter
CernTheLion

Rizevim wrote:

quick mod ;)
General
00:52:677 - why this kiai is so short? D: , u can remove it It's just for emphasize the various drops. I put that so kiai parts are not so much longer
01:07:677 - ^ ^
Hard
00:29:473 - add notes here Ehm...why? :/
00:36:973 - ^ ^
GL! :D
Thanks but no changes were been applied, thanks for your time anyway ;)
kricher
normal
00:36:739 (2,3) - i think those look better if you move them a bit down like these for example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6972334
00:41:192 - big note here but its a red tick so you dont have to map it since its normal but doesnt seem good not including it since you have some 1/2 later on
00:59:239 (5) - make this a slider that ends at 00:59:473 -
00:59:708 (6) - the same and again at 01:14:239 (5,6) -
at the last part this is how i think the timing should be https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6972377 (the note placement is random just look at the timeline on the top)

hard
00:53:380 (2) - i dont see the part of the song this note covers. there seem to be a lot of notes like that.tell me im missing something here
01:11:192 (4,1) - i think if you get them a bit down like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6972411 it will flow better
01:26:192 (6) - i dont see why those sliders exist.plz explain
01:30:059 (6) - remove this

twilight
00:25:489 (4,5) - mapping those 2 as sliders like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6972431 i think matches the song better
00:34:864 (3,4) - making those 2 a slider is an option
00:37:091 - since you have some parts that are faster than 1/2 you might as well put a note here
00:45:645 (3) - get this the same distance with 00:45:177 (1,2) -
01:14:708 (4,5) - you can combine those into a slider


hope i was useful
Aleksander92
Hi! Wanna mod this :)

[General]
  1. Do S:C1 custom hitclap and hitfinish differ somehow from standart Soft hitclap and hitfinish?
  2. ^ Same for N:C2 hitnormal and hitfinish
[Twilight]
  1. Slider form: you have only 2 slider forms in this difficulty - straight sliders and small curvy sliders without red points in it. Try to make it more diversed so it can be played more interesting, there's bunch of different forms you can apply, as an example I can put some here ( https://puu.sh/taTnQ/bb338d88bd.png https://puu.sh/taTnW/6979faac8b.png https://puu.sh/taTnY/6be64c2f01.png). Red points are very interesting to use, straight sliders are good to be used on slow music. I don't say to use all these shapes randomly - just play around and try to make your map more variative :)
  2. Yellow ticks - I don't get it why you've used 1/8 here, the only place it can be used on this difficulty is 01:35:567 - and I don't suggest to use it there. My thoughts about yellow ticks here: there's no sound on these ticks on a whole difficulty (only 01:35:567 - ), so if you change sliders that end on yellow ticks (with muted ends) on sliders that end on red ticks (with muted ends) it will only be better. In kiai part it even can mislead some players
  3. About 01:35:567 - Just change it to slider similar to sliders, that go earlier
  4. 00:54:552 (1,2,3) - This looks awesome, 01:02:052 (1,2,3) - this looks not so good. Try to curve first slider and make the flow not in a form of triangle, as you've done earlier, maybe like this ( https://puu.sh/taUCU/a204c0c23d.png ). Still there are many opportunitites to do this place, try to feel what's better
  5. 01:05:333 (4,5,1) - Move 5 sligtly upper to make flow not linear, it doesn't feel good here ( https://puu.sh/taUTZ/86609e45d4.png )
  6. 01:10:255 (2,3,4,5,6) - Personally I don't like this form, even though it's symmetrical (but vertically), maybe smth like this ( https://puu.sh/taVal/7b2331abf6.png) ?
  7. 01:20:099 (4,5,6) - Put 5 slightly upper not to be linear
[campa97's Normal]
  1. CS 3.8/4/4 for difficulties, wanna differ it somehow (especially for normal)? And maybe you should make AR for normal lower
  2. 00:25:958 (6,1) - This doesn't look as cool as this for example 00:31:114 (2,3) - , maybe you can improve it
  3. 00:40:841 (4) // 00:44:591 (4) - There's a sound on a red tick, make a slider to the red tick instead of circle
  4. 01:12:364 (2,3,4) - This form is also strange
  5. 01:21:739 (6,7,1) - Not a mistake, but you're putting everytime this in a straight line, like here 01:33:927 (1,2,3) - so it looks a bit weird there
[Hard]
  1. I guess you should grow OD here
  2. 00:26:427 (1) - Curve this
  3. 00:41:192 (6,1) - Can you move 6 a bit right so it will pour into 1 slider perfectly :)
  4. 01:07:442 (2,1) - Spacing?
  5. 01:24:317 (5,1) - This feels really strange while playing, cause 01:24:317 (5) - sounds as strong beat. 01:29:708 (5,6,1) - This transition feels a lot more comfortable. You should to something with places similar to 01:24:317 (5,1) -
  6. 01:35:802 (1,2) - Personal opinion - try to place those different from the previous sliders, cause they're on a new combo and it starts to be boring. Or even you can change this for something
Good music choice, good luck further :)
campa97

kricher wrote:

normal
00:36:739 (2,3) - i think those look better if you move them a bit down like these for example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6972334 Why? This doesn't interrupt the flow and create a good blanket
00:41:192 - big note here but its a red tick so you dont have to map it since its normal but doesnt seem good not including it since you have some 1/2 later on Why?
00:59:239 (5) - make this a slider that ends at 00:59:473 - It emphasize this part of song
00:59:708 (6) - the same and again at 01:14:239 (5,6) - ^
at the last part this is how i think the timing should be https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6972377 (the note placement is random just look at the timeline on the top) I adjuste this part, it sounds better ^^
hope i was useful Yes, thanks ^^

Aleksander92 wrote:

Hi! Wanna mod this :)

[campa97's Normal]
  1. CS 3.8/4/4 for difficulties, wanna differ it somehow (especially for normal)? And maybe you should make AR for normal lower AR5 is normal for this difficulty
  2. 00:25:958 (6,1) - This doesn't look as cool as this for example 00:31:114 (2,3) - , maybe you can improve it I did a little improve
  3. 00:40:841 (4) // 00:44:591 (4) - There's a sound on a red tick, make a slider to the red tick instead of circle I leave it, is for emphasize
  4. 01:12:364 (2,3,4) - This form is also strange Why?
  5. 01:21:739 (6,7,1) - Not a mistake, but you're putting everytime this in a straight line, like here 01:33:927 (1,2,3) - so it looks a bit weird there Isn't too weird, is more simple to play

Rizevim wrote:

quick mod ;)
campa97's Normal
00:59:473 - add notes here No, is for emphasize the part of song
00:59:942 - u can add notes here ^
01:14:473 - add notes here ^
GL! :D Thanks ^^
Topic Starter
CernTheLion

kricher wrote:

hard
01:11:192 (4,1) - i think if you get them a bit down like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6972411 it will flow better There's a penthagon and a blanket here, so sorry ahaha
01:26:192 (6) - i dont see why those sliders exist.plz explain For the same reason of 01:24:317 (5) - this :)
01:30:059 (6) - remove this Why? lol

twilight
00:25:489 (4,5) - mapping those 2 as sliders like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6972431 i think matches the song better Too boring man :(
00:34:864 (3,4) - making those 2 a slider is an option ^
00:37:091 - since you have some parts that are faster than 1/2 you might as well put a note here That's kinda awkward tbh
00:45:645 (3) - get this the same distance with 00:45:177 (1,2) - Okay, fixed
01:14:708 (4,5) - you can combine those into a slider Nope, I like it


hope i was useful
Yeah, thanks a lot ^^

Aleksander92 wrote:

Hi! Wanna mod this :)

[General]
  1. Do S:C1 custom hitclap and hitfinish differ somehow from standart Soft hitclap and hitfinish? I used the standard skin's hitsou ds since they fit better here tbh :)
  2. ^ Same for N:C2 hitnormal and hitfinish Same
[Twilight]
  1. Slider form: you have only 2 slider forms in this difficulty - straight sliders and small curvy sliders without red points in it. Try to make it more diversed so it can be played more interesting, there's bunch of different forms you can apply, as an example I can put some here ( https://puu.sh/taTnQ/bb338d88bd.png https://puu.sh/taTnW/6979faac8b.png https://puu.sh/taTnY/6be64c2f01.png). Red points are very interesting to use, straight sliders are good to be used on slow music. I don't say to use all these shapes randomly - just play around and try to make your map more variative :) Yeah, ut I actually prefere to use this simple slider in this map, since there aren't strange noises lol
  2. Yellow ticks - I don't get it why you've used 1/8 here, the only place it can be used on this difficulty is 01:35:567 - and I don't suggest to use it there. My thoughts about yellow ticks here: there's no sound on these ticks on a whole difficulty (only 01:35:567 - ), so if you change sliders that end on yellow ticks (with muted ends) on sliders that end on red ticks (with muted ends) it will only be better. In kiai part it even can mislead some players I used the 1/8 for emphasize the next clickable beat, with 1/4 there won't fit as well as this imo, moreover I've got a good number of testplays, and no problems were be found in that, so that's not so bad at all ;)
  3. About 01:35:567 - Just change it to slider similar to sliders, that go earlier Too boring, sorry
  4. 00:54:552 (1,2,3) - This looks awesome, 01:02:052 (1,2,3) - this looks not so good. Try to curve first slider and make the flow not in a form of triangle, as you've done earlier, maybe like this ( https://puu.sh/taUCU/a204c0c23d.png ). Still there are many opportunitites to do this place, try to feel what's better Yeah, this looks really cool, thanks for that!
  5. 01:05:333 (4,5,1) - Move 5 sligtly upper to make flow not linear, it doesn't feel good here ( https://puu.sh/taUTZ/86609e45d4.png ) There aren't many linear patterns in this map, so let me keep this lol
  6. 01:10:255 (2,3,4,5,6) - Personally I don't like this form, even though it's symmetrical (but vertically), maybe smth like this ( https://puu.sh/taVal/7b2331abf6.png) ? Think that I'll leave this as it actually is, sorry
  7. 01:20:099 (4,5,6) - Put 5 slightly upper not to be linear It's a penthagon here, so I won't change anything here lol
[Hard]
  1. I guess you should grow OD here The other options are not so high, so OD it's perfect imo
  2. 00:26:427 (1) - Curve this Nope, I like it
  3. 00:41:192 (6,1) - Can you move 6 a bit right so it will pour into 1 slider perfectly :) ^
  4. 01:07:442 (2,1) - Spacing? Yeah, fixed, thanks
  5. 01:24:317 (5,1) - This feels really strange while playing, cause 01:24:317 (5) - sounds as strong beat. 01:29:708 (5,6,1) - This transition feels a lot more comfortable. You should to something with places similar to 01:24:317 (5,1) - That part is pretty cool tho :(
  6. 01:35:802 (1,2) - Personal opinion - try to place those different from the previous sliders, cause they're on a new combo and it starts to be boring. Or even you can change this for something Okay, thanks
Good music choice, good luck further :)
Thanks man, and thanks for modding either!
_orange
#modreqs

[campa97's Normal]

- I think you should reduce the note density at here 00:22:677 - because it's obviously less intense than 00:52:677 - even though you mapped it the same
- 00:37:677 (1,2,3) - this isn't too good imo, I don't think they're reflecting the most important sound in the song I like what you did 00:45:177 (1) - here better
- 01:14:239 (5,2) - if you can fix this overlap
- 01:37:677 (3) - NC

[Hard]

- 00:44:239 (5) - short sliders that curve too much aren't pretty to a lot of people :( try avoiding these
- 00:50:802 (1) - the recovery time for this spinner is a bit too short I think, I recommend to try something different...
- 01:34:864 (3) - NC?

[Twilight]

- I don't agree with the 1/8 either... I think it's confusing and you should map it differently to make it more playable
- 00:51:270 (3) - NC

Very solid map, GL!
Topic Starter
CernTheLion

_orange wrote:

#modreqs

[Hard]

- 00:44:239 (5) - short sliders that curve too much aren't pretty to a lot of people :( try avoiding these C'mon that's not so bad at all :( . Other than that, there are already a couple of slider shapes, so let me keep it up lol
- 00:50:802 (1) - the recovery time for this spinner is a bit too short I think, I recommend to try something different... In the mapping rules is written that for hard difficulties the recovery time must be at least 1/2 BPM, so that's correct ;)
- 01:34:864 (3) - NC? Yeah, it sounds good to me :)

[Twilight]

- I don't agree with the 1/8 either... I think it's confusing and you should map it differently to make it more playable It's for emphasize the next beat, so I'll leave them lol. Nothing wrong was found by testplayers ;)
- 00:51:270 (3) - NC Yeah, thanks :D

Very solid map, GL!
Thank you so much!
campa97

_orange wrote:

#modreqs

[campa97's Normal]

- I think you should reduce the note density at here 00:22:677 - because it's obviously less intense than 00:52:677 - even though you mapped it the same Yes, i know... But is an easy-normal difficulty
- 00:37:677 (1,2,3) - this isn't too good imo, I don't think they're reflecting the most important sound in the song I like what you did 00:45:177 (1) - here better I use this for emphasize sounds
- 01:14:239 (5,2) - if you can fix this overlap Fixed
- 01:37:677 (3) - NC Ok, thanks

Thanks for your mod ^^
Mir
A wild mod appears from #modreqs!

[ General]
  1. normal-hitfinish2.wav could have a delay of over 5ms which is unrankable. Check and make sure in an audio program.
  2. For your normal diff you could increase circle size, since at the moment it's CS 3.8 and that's kinda small for a conventionally mapped normal. even 3.5 would probably work better imo.
  3. Your Hard diff needs more OD because right now it's the same as your Normal difficulty, 4 is pretty low even by Hards' standards anyways so try 5-6? Same with Twilight, you could buff it slightly up to 6.x or even 7 if you wanted to.
  4. Twilight could be given more HP drain since there are a lot more notes. 5.x should be fine. You could lower the Normal HP drain to 3 or so because atm Normal and Hard have the same HP drain. Just look over your difficulty settings again in general.
  5. You could use a BG of higher quality if you can find one. This one is 1024x768 and that's way below the quality limit (1920x1080).
  6. Can you not find a higher quality version of the MP3? This one seems to be 128kbps and that's kinda low. The max is 192kbps. Downloading the version available for free from here and cutting it to about the same length should be fine and give more quality. If it's too high, you can use a converter online to lower it to 192kbps. Though you may have to change the offset after swapping MP3s.
  7. Your tags have a typo in them - you spelled "NoCopyrightSounds" as "NoCopirightSounds." The former is the correct spelling.

[ Twilight]
  1. 00:35:333 (5,1) - This blanket is noticeably off.
  2. 00:41:309 (4) - The sound you're following doesn't have a beat here, and mapping a beat here will cause weird polarity imo. I recommend removing this note to improve playability.
  3. 01:12:364 (3,4,5,1) - Visual spacing looks too close between 01:12:364 (3,1) - imo. Try this: http://i.imgur.com/06ISMXH.png
  4. 01:15:177 (1,2,3) - Hmm, this flow is a bit awkward for a point in the music where it's not needing as much emphasis. Maybe place the circle on the other side? http://i.imgur.com/6BwB0PI.png
  5. 01:33:927 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Uhhh. What exactly are you going for here? This doesn't seem like any recognizable pattern to me, just a bunch of straight sliders scrunched together. Something like http://i.imgur.com/bzvee8N.jpg perhaps? It's really up to you just, this whole part seems really randomly placed and quite structurally lacking considering this part 00:50:802 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - is more structured and actually is part of a pattern.

[ Hard]
    1. 00:37:208 (5,1) - This blanket is really close, I think you could space it out more and it would look nicer: http://i.imgur.com/HhgPL1E.png Could do the same for the rest of the map: 00:45:880 (2,3) - for example is also really close and could use some more spacing.
    2. 00:37:677 (1,2) - Whether you take the above suggestion or not you could make these the same slider to improve aesthetics as well.
    3. 00:41:427 (1,2) - Last blanket I'll point out. I recommend checking them all since there are quite a few noticeable errors here that could be polished.
    That's everything major.

[ campa97's Normal]
  1. 00:35:802 (1) - Remove NC because you're doing NCs every 2 measures so it's inconsistent.
  2. 00:39:786 (3,1) - Potentially ambiguous reverse slider placement (shouldn't hide them). I recommend moving it just to be on the safe side.
Check your blankets, a lot of them are off.

Other than that, nothing.

Good luck.~
Topic Starter
CernTheLion

Mir wrote:

A wild mod appears from #modreqs! Yo ;)

[ General]
  1. normal-hitfinish2.wav could have a delay of over 5ms which is unrankable. Check and make sure in an audio program. This one seems good to me, but I'll make sure that it'll be okay, thanks
  2. Your Hard diff needs more OD because right now it's the same as your Normal difficulty, 4 is pretty low even by Hards' standards anyways so try 5-6? Same with Twilight, you could buff it slightly up to 6.x or even 7 if you wanted to. Changed it to 5
  3. Twilight could be given more HP drain since there are a lot more notes. 5.x should be fine. You could lower the Normal HP drain to 3 or so because atm Normal and Hard have the same HP drain. Just look over your difficulty settings again in general. ^
  4. You could use a BG of higher quality if you can find one. This one is 1024x768 and that's way below the quality limit (1920x1080). I'm not so good at finding BG lol
  5. Can you not find a higher quality version of the MP3? This one seems to be 128kbps and that's kinda low. The max is 192kbps. Downloading the version available for free from here and cutting it to about the same length should be fine and give more quality. If it's too high, you can use a converter online to lower it to 192kbps. Though you may have to change the offset after swapping MP3s. That's exactly what I did, if I'll find a better .p3 I'll use it, thanks
  6. Your tags have a typo in them - you spelled "NoCopyrightSounds" as "NoCopirightSounds." The former is the correct spelling. Ooops, u kinda right, thanks

[ Twilight]
  1. 00:35:333 (5,1) - This blanket is noticeably off. Fixed e.e
  2. 00:41:309 (4) - The sound you're following doesn't have a beat here, and mapping a beat here will cause weird polarity imo. I recommend removing this note to improve playability. It's for emphasize, sorry
  3. 01:12:364 (3,4,5,1) - Visual spacing looks too close between 01:12:364 (3,1) - imo. Try this: http://i.imgur.com/06ISMXH.png That looks good to me, so I won't change it, sorry
  4. 01:15:177 (1,2,3) - Hmm, this flow is a bit awkward for a point in the music where it's not needing as much emphasis. Maybe place the circle on the other side? http://i.imgur.com/6BwB0PI.png Idk what to do here, I like both, I think I'll ask to someone else
  5. 01:33:927 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Uhhh. What exactly are you going for here? This doesn't seem like any recognizable pattern to me, just a bunch of straight sliders scrunched together. Something like http://i.imgur.com/bzvee8N.jpg perhaps? It's really up to you just, this whole part seems really randomly placed and quite structurally lacking considering this part 00:50:802 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - is more structured and actually is part of a pattern. ^

[ Hard]
    1. 00:37:208 (5,1) - This blanket is really close, I think you could space it out more and it would look nicer: http://i.imgur.com/HhgPL1E.png Could do the same for the rest of the map: 00:45:880 (2,3) - for example is also really close and could use some more spacing. I've actually made the whole map with DS, so, sorry but no
    2. 00:37:677 (1,2) - Whether you take the above suggestion or not you could make these the same slider to improve aesthetics as well. That could be too boring tho
    3. 00:41:427 (1,2) - Last blanket I'll point out. I recommend checking them all since there are quite a few noticeable errors here that could be polished. Fixed thx
That's everything major.


Good luck.~
Thank you very much!
campa97

Mir wrote:

A wild mod appears from #modreqs!

[ campa97's Normal]
  1. 00:35:802 (1) - Remove NC because you're doing NCs every 2 measures so it's inconsistent. Ok, fixed
  2. 00:39:786 (3,1) - Potentially ambiguous reverse slider placement (shouldn't hide them). I recommend moving it just to be on the safe side.I don't think is ambiguous... 00:41:427 (1) - this isn't so difficult to understand
Check your blankets, a lot of them are off. Ok, i'll check now, thank you :)

Other than that, nothing.

Good luck.~ Thanks ^^
Mr HeliX
M4m as agreed to :^)

[campa97's Normal]
  1. 01:07:677 (1) - Move it down a tiny bit so it curves better with the 5 and 6 before it
[Twilight]
  1. Increase the slider velocity a tiny bit? The bpm of the map is low but now it feels really slow.
  2. 00:39:786 (1) and 00:43:536 (1) - Why the NC?
  3. 01:22:207 (1) - Remove NC, looks weird in the burst and not really necessary (also consisten with the burst right before it)
  4. 01:23:028 (2,3) - I suggest lowering the spacing between these notes (as well as the other notes like these in this part of the map). The slider velocity is very slow and that makes it a bit awkward to play.
  5. 01:24:317 (8,9) - Same as above
  6. 01:28:067 (7,8,1) - Angle with the 5 and 6 before it is a bit awkward, might wanna do something there
  7. 01:35:567 (1) - Remove NC? Don't really see why you would add it here
  8. 01:35:802 (1) - Stream feels a bit out of place in this map; there is no stream to be found in the entire map and it suddenly ends with a 16 note one. It is not that hard though so it might be okay, Idk XD I would personally go with an 8-note stream
Hope this was of any use, good luck with your map! :^)
Aniviuh
- Normal -
01:08:614 (2,4,6) - I know the blanket is barely visible when playing but it would be nice to fix :^)
- Hard -
00:18:927 (1) - (Optional) It would be cool to add a spinner here.
00:46:114 (3) - Move middle anchor one unit to the right to fix blanket. (or one square what ever you call it.)
- Twilight -
00:18:927 (1) - (Optional) It would be cool to add a spinner here. Ends on 20:802
00:53:614 (3) - Whistle here? Why?

It's not much but I hope I can help! GOOD LUCK!

M4M? :https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/536476
campa97

Mr HeliX wrote:

M4m as agreed to :^)

[campa97's Normal]
  1. 01:07:677 (1) - Move it down a tiny bit so it curves better with the 5 and 6 before it I adjust slider number 5 to make better flow ^^

Hope this was of any use, good luck with your map! :^) Thanks ^^

ViolentBoo wrote:

- Normal -
01:08:614 (2,4,6) - I know the blanket is barely visible when playing but it would be nice to fix :^) Why? is a good blanket


It's not much but I hope I can help! GOOD LUCK! Thanks ^^
Topic Starter
CernTheLion

Mr HeliX wrote:

M4m as agreed to :^) :^)

[Twilight]
  1. Increase the slider velocity a tiny bit? The bpm of the map is low but now it feels really slow. Keep in mind that it's a 3 stars map lol
  2. 00:39:786 (1) and 00:43:536 (1) - Why the NC? Because a placed a NC every 4 white tick
  3. 01:22:207 (1) - Remove NC, looks weird in the burst and not really necessary (also consisten with the burst right before it) It's for emphasize, sorry
  4. 01:23:028 (2,3) - I suggest lowering the spacing between these notes (as well as the other notes like these in this part of the map). The slider velocity is very slow and that makes it a bit awkward to play. I did a couple of testplays, that looks fine to play lol
  5. 01:24:317 (8,9) - Same as above Same as above
  6. 01:28:067 (7,8,1) - Angle with the 5 and 6 before it is a bit awkward, might wanna do something there Okay
  7. 01:35:567 (1) - Remove NC? Don't really see why you would add it here It's for the slider change, since it's in 1/8 instead of 1/4 like the others
  8. 01:35:802 (1) - Stream feels a bit out of place in this map; there is no stream to be found in the entire map and it suddenly ends with a 16 note one. It is not that hard though so it might be okay, Idk XD I would personally go with an 8-note stream lol, there's a stream 01:20:802 (1,2,3,4,5) - here and 01:21:739 (1,2,3,4,1) - here too ahaha
Hope this was of any use, good luck with your map! :^)
Thank for that tip ;)

ViolentBoo wrote:

- Hard -
00:18:927 (1) - (Optional) It would be cool to add a spinner here. Seriously?
00:46:114 (3) - Move middle anchor one unit to the right to fix blanket. (or one square what ever you call it.) That's not so important tbh, since it makes a blanket lol
- Twilight -
00:18:927 (1) - (Optional) It would be cool to add a spinner here. Ends on 20:802 Are you serious?
00:53:614 (3) - Whistle here? Why? Thanks, I forgot to remove it lol

It's not much but I hope I can help! GOOD LUCK!

M4M? :https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/536476 Dunno if I'll mod this since you should write in-game for a M4M instead of asking that in a thread, also your map looks already good imo. I don't think that I'll mod that, sorry
Other than that, fixed the whistle, thanks.
Blan_C
Hello, M4M #modreqs

Sorry for english :v
These are only minor things, but probably will incrase quality of your beatmap

  • Genaral
  1. Get HQ backgroud, i dont like current :v
  2. You use so much geometrical..patterns, your map need variety of them
  3. Avoid sliders that are bended too much, like 01:01:114 (3) - 00:45:177 (1) - 00:47:052 (1) -
    Twillight
  4. 00:23:145 (2,3,4,5) - This square is a bit unconsistant https://puu.sh/tCDay/7827dc060a.jpg
  5. 00:25:020 (2,3,4) - This triangle too https://puu.sh/tCDjG/e380954ae6.jpg
  6. 00:25:723 (5,6,7,1) - And this one too :v https://puu.sh/tCDkM/a7c539a51d.jpg
  7. 00:29:708 (6,1) - This blanket is a bit off https://puu.sh/tCDns/8ece300187.jpg You can even skip this :v
  8. 00:32:755 (3,4,6,7) - This one too :v :v
  9. 00:34:395 (2,3) - improve this blanket
  10. 00:37:677 (1,2,3,1,2) - 00:42:130 (2,3,1,2) - This looks kinda bad to me, try to make something with these (pattern). For me it looks like its placed randomly.
  11. 00:50:802 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Short sliders are good idea, but try to make them look better
  12. 01:09:083 (4,1) - I dont like how its curved. Try something like this: http://puu.sh/tCFiv/bad4bd1d73.jpg ///// http://puu.sh/tCFj0/e12142174a.jpg
  13. 01:17:755 (2,3,4,5,6) - try to make some good shapes out of it
I am not good at modding easy/normals but i suppose the things i would point out would be similar.
Good luck!
Topic Starter
CernTheLion

Blan_C wrote:

Hello, M4M #modreqs

Sorry for english :v
These are only minor things, but probably will incrase quality of your beatmap

  • Genaral
  1. Get HQ backgroud, i dont like current :v I'm not able to find it :v
  2. You use so much geometrical..patterns, your map need variety of them ehm..okay
  3. Avoid sliders that are bended too much, like 01:01:114 (3) - 00:45:177 (1) - 00:47:052 (1) - That's not so bad tbh
    Twillight
  4. 00:37:677 (1,2,3,1,2) - 00:42:130 (2,3,1,2) - This looks kinda bad to me, try to make something with these (pattern). For me it looks like its placed randomly. It's a sequence of blankets, so those aren't random placed lol
  5. 00:50:802 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Short sliders are good idea, but try to make them look better They already made a pattern tho
  6. 01:09:083 (4,1) - I dont like how its curved. Try something like this: http://puu.sh/tCFiv/bad4bd1d73.jpg ///// http://puu.sh/tCFj0/e12142174a.jpg What's the deal with it? e.e
  7. 01:17:755 (2,3,4,5,6) - try to make some good shapes out of it It makes already a square and two triangle, I cannot do them outside the slider
I am not good at modding easy/normals but i suppose the things i would point out would be similar.
Good luck!
Fixed all the stuff about the various pattern, thank you!
Nao Tomori
hello there!

the biggest issue i had with this map was the use of distance snap everywhere. using the same distance snap at all times means that you cannot use spacing at all to represent the song's intensity.

[twilight]
for example, 00:32:520 - in this section the song is getting quieter, the spacing and note density should decrease, but instead it stay the same.

00:37:677 - this buildup section then feels very lame since you don't use jumps or increasing spacing.

00:52:677 - then this section also feels identical to the previous parts since the spacing and sv are all more or less the same. the song is much more intense, but it isn't reflected in the map in my opinion.

the rhythm density is also a large problem in my opinion.

00:53:163 - this section has lower density than 00:25:612 - even though it's much louder and intense.

00:37:677 - this section is neutered in the rhythm section since you didn't follow any of the drums or anything and instead picked the most boring instrument to follow with only 3/4 sliders.
then when you did decide to add in circles, 00:41:309 (4) - is not on an important note, so it just seems like a random triple that doesn't follow anything.

01:17:755 - there is nothing here that suggests a bunch of circles should be placed. there is a 1/1 bass and a held out note in the synth, so your rhythm should reflect that.

01:22:208 - this is the only time that these drum hits are not represented as stacked notes.

01:25:958 (7,8,1,2) - this is kinda confusing imo. since it switched between 1/4 snap and 1/8 snap.

i don't think further modding will help since fixing the flaws in this map would result in a full remap of the difficulty anyway. basically, i think you should try to follow the rhythm as closely as you can since this is the top difficulty and players are supposedly ready for the corresponding challenge. in addition, i'd advise using all the tools available to you to represent the song, like spacing, slider velocity, rhythm density and relative intensity.

you've probably already heard of these videos, but pishifat the qat released a series of guides on how to implement some of these ideas in you map successfully. if you haven't done so already, i recommend watching the ones on rhythm, rhythm density and diff spread, and emphasis.

my intention was not to sound rude or mean, and if you have any further questions, feel free to pm me in game about them.
Topic Starter
CernTheLion

Nao Tomori wrote:

hello there!

the biggest issue i had with this map was the use of distance snap everywhere. using the same distance snap at all times means that you cannot use spacing at all to represent the song's intensity. you probably right lol

[twilight]
00:37:677 - this section is neutered in the rhythm section since you didn't follow any of the drums or anything and instead picked the most boring instrument to follow with only 3/4 sliders.
then when you did decide to add in circles, 00:41:309 (4) - is not on an important note, so it just seems like a random triple that doesn't follow anything. Okay, removed that

01:17:755 - there is nothing here that suggests a bunch of circles should be placed. there is a 1/1 bass and a held out note in the synth, so your rhythm should reflect that. Other than the bass, there's another sound, which is 1/2, that's what I'm actually following there

01:22:208 - this is the only time that these drum hits are not represented as stacked notes. Fixed

01:25:958 (7,8,1,2) - this is kinda confusing imo. since it switched between 1/4 snap and 1/8 snap. think I should "part-remap" that part

my intention was not to sound rude or mean, and if you have any further questions, feel free to pm me in game about them.
Thanks so much for modding, I've applied the SV changes you mentioned in the mod. Thanks again!
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