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Mir
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hello

[Easy]
! - 01:11:514 - inaudible sliderticks

NCing every 4 downbeats seems more appropriate for the density mapped throughout the song, but that's optional.

owo what's this a clean diff? O:

[Normal]
- 00:04:813 (1,2,3) - Why change the rhythm from 00:00:061 (1,2,3) - when the sounds are essentially the same? o.o
- 00:12:110 (1,2) - 00:02:437 (1) - ^
- 00:28:573 - 00:35:044 - Way too much 1/2 in a row, I really recommend some breaks here. // 00:47:397 - 00:53:867 -
- 01:00:632 (5,6) - o_O you can just put one circle on 01:00:926 - to separate these chains of 1/2 // 01:10:044 (5,6) -

[Hard]
- 00:27:985 (5,1) - Could be misleading, maybe try to offset the 1 a bit http://i.imgur.com/UrdrgPQ.png
- 00:36:220 (2,3) - 1/2 stacks must not be perfect on a Hard difficulty. // 00:55:044 (2,3) - 00:56:809 (1,2) -
- 00:46:809 (5,6) - this is probably a bit much, if you did something like http://i.imgur.com/L5ybPkC.png it'd be more reasonable and easy to pass
- 00:53:279 (3,4) - Maybe a reverse slider would fit here?
- 01:00:632 (2) - Jump may be a bit sudden
- 01:00:632 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - There is a change in the song on 01:01:514 (1,2) - but the patterning stays the same which, consequently, leaves little room for differentiation :?

[Snowy Christmas]
- 00:10:328 (2,3) - Blanket is noticeably off

... this is fine xD

That's all from me.~
meii18
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Mir wrote:

hello

[Easy]
! - 01:11:514 - inaudible sliderticks

NCing every 4 downbeats seems more appropriate for the density mapped throughout the song, but that's optional.

owo what's this a clean diff? O: fixed all!

[Normal]
- 00:04:813 (1,2,3) - Why change the rhythm from 00:00:061 (1,2,3) - when the sounds are essentially the same? o.o i did the same at 00:14:444 (1,2,3) - it is to not repeat the same stuff lol
- 00:12:110 (1,2) - 00:02:437 (1) - ^ ^
- 00:28:573 - 00:35:044 - Way too much 1/2 in a row, I really recommend some breaks here. // 00:47:397 - 00:53:867 -
- 01:00:632 (5,6) - o_O you can just put one circle on 01:00:926 - to separate these chains of 1/2 // 01:10:044 (5,6) -
^rest were fixed!

[Hard]
- 00:27:985 (5,1) - Could be misleading, maybe try to offset the 1 a bit http://i.imgur.com/UrdrgPQ.png done
- 00:36:220 (2,3) - 1/2 stacks must not be perfect on a Hard difficulty. // 00:55:044 (2,3) - 00:56:809 (1,2) - raised the stack leniency
- 00:46:809 (5,6) - this is probably a bit much, if you did something like http://i.imgur.com/L5ybPkC.png it'd be more reasonable and easy to pass fixed
- 00:53:279 (3,4) - Maybe a reverse slider would fit here? ok
- 01:00:632 (2) - Jump may be a bit sudden stacked it with previous slider's head (or tail whatever XD)
- 01:00:632 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - There is a change in the song on 01:01:514 (1,2) - but the patterning stays the same which, consequently, leaves little room for differentiation :? the song is getting more intense only that's why i kept mapping the same pattern

[Snowy Christmas]
- 00:10:328 (2,3) - Blanket is noticeably off got it

... this is fine xD xD

That's all from me.~ rip bubble ;w;
thank you so much!
Kilabarus
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rank when :o
meii18
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MashaSG wrote:

rank when :o
idk...
Nozhomi
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IRC blablabla yes not in baguette
2017-08-25 22:37 ByBy: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1163952 toby fox - Snowdin Town]
2017-08-25 22:37 ByBy: got a mod from Mir but he isn't interested
2017-08-25 22:37 ByBy: ;w;
2017-08-25 22:39 Nozhomi: I hate your stack leniency, I hate how you did triplet on 2nd part
2017-08-25 22:39 Nozhomi: without them, it's quite pleasant
2017-08-25 22:39 ByBy: aaa ;w;
2017-08-25 22:42 Nozhomi: ye
2017-08-25 22:43 ByBy: k
2017-08-25 22:43 ByBy: will remove them
2017-08-25 22:43 ByBy: ...
2017-08-25 22:43 Nozhomi: not remove
2017-08-25 22:43 Nozhomi: adjust them would be better
2017-08-25 22:43 Nozhomi: also about your stacks
2017-08-25 22:44 Nozhomi: the issue comes mainly from these 00:35:044 (3,4) - 
2017-08-25 22:44 Nozhomi: because you don't have a true way to read them perfectly due to that stacking
2017-08-25 22:45 ByBy: oki
2017-08-25 22:45 Nozhomi: and triplet like 00:22:397 (4,5,1) - are k to play because flow is simple and direct
2017-08-25 22:45 Nozhomi: but stuff like 00:48:279 (3,4,1) - is hell and not intuitive for that kind of song
2017-08-25 22:45 Nozhomi: it's calm and relac, not a wubwub thing
2017-08-25 22:45 Nozhomi: *relax
2017-08-25 22:45 ByBy: k then
2017-08-25 22:46 Nozhomi: apply on same kind of stuff
2017-08-25 22:46 ByBy: stack leniency 6 now
2017-08-25 22:46 Nozhomi: and then come back tomorrow for a 2nd chance to get a mod from me
2017-08-25 22:46 Nozhomi: :>
2017-08-25 22:46 ByBy: k :>
2017-08-25 22:46 ByBy: thanks a lot :3
2017-08-25 22:47 Nozhomi: mukyu~
2017-08-26 22:09 ByBy: hi
2017-08-26 22:09 ByBy: o/
2017-08-26 22:09 Nozhomi: so how it's going ?
2017-08-26 22:09 ByBy: fixed these patterns
2017-08-26 22:09 ByBy: i hope's fine now
2017-08-26 22:12 Nozhomi: k there's still some change to do but seems better
2017-08-26 22:12 ByBy: k :3
2017-08-26 22:12 Nozhomi: 00:29:456 (3,4,1) - this one is still quite unconfortable to play
2017-08-26 22:13 Nozhomi: 00:48:279 (3,4,1) - same but because of the flow you used
2017-08-26 22:13 Nozhomi: the angle with oposite slider direction makes it weird
2017-08-26 22:13 ByBy: :o
2017-08-26 22:14 Nozhomi: 01:01:809 (2,3) - I would angle the a bit to not making that pattern a straight one
2017-08-26 22:14 Nozhomi: angled patterns are more confortable to catch
2017-08-26 22:14 Nozhomi: rest is fine for that diff
2017-08-26 22:14 Nozhomi: unless I missed smth
2017-08-26 22:15 ByBy: k
2017-08-26 22:16 Nozhomi: you forgot some whistle on intro
2017-08-26 22:16 ByBy: ughh
2017-08-26 22:16 ByBy: wait a min
2017-08-26 22:17 Nozhomi: 00:03:031 (2) - / 00:07:783 (2) - / 00:17:414 (2) - these are places where whistle is missing
2017-08-26 22:26 ByBy: fixed all
2017-08-26 22:26 Nozhomi: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1163950 toby fox - Snowdin Town [Hard]]
2017-08-26 22:26 Nozhomi: 00:04:219 (4,1) - what is that ?
2017-08-26 22:27 ByBy: uguu my baka pc
2017-08-26 22:27 ByBy: fixed
2017-08-26 22:29 Nozhomi: 00:36:514 (3) - what is that ²
2017-08-26 22:29 Nozhomi: 00:39:162 (1) - 
2017-08-26 22:29 Nozhomi: and 00:41:514 (1) - 
2017-08-26 22:29 Nozhomi: :^)
2017-08-26 22:29 ByBy: xD
2017-08-26 22:29 ByBy: fixed all wtf
2017-08-26 22:30 Nozhomi: You should be punished for not doing your homework correctly
2017-08-26 22:30 Nozhomi: :>
2017-08-26 22:30 Nozhomi: oh btw Whistle thing applies to other diffs ofc
2017-08-26 22:31 ByBy: xDD
2017-08-26 22:31 ByBy: i know aaa
2017-08-26 22:31 ByBy: kk
2017-08-26 22:32 Nozhomi: you see for 00:20:926 (2,3,4) - I would have done them with a reverse instead of 00:32:691 (2) - because it would make player understand than you mapped 1/8 as 1/4 for make it easier
2017-08-26 22:32 Nozhomi: to introduce the rhythm choice for that section
2017-08-26 22:32 ByBy: k
2017-08-26 22:33 ByBy: done
2017-08-26 22:34 Nozhomi: 01:00:632 (2) - that's the only time you did a stack under a slider end, and imo that's not a good idea. Also inconsistent with how you did it for 01:10:044 (2) - 
2017-08-26 22:35 ByBy: unstacked
2017-08-26 22:35 Nozhomi: and last, spacing inconsistency here 00:12:704 (2,3) - 
2017-08-26 22:36 Nozhomi: should be like 00:03:031 (2,3) - somehow
2017-08-26 22:37 ByBy: hope it's fine now
2017-08-26 22:38 Nozhomi: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1163951 toby fox - Snowdin Town [Normal]]
2017-08-26 22:38 Nozhomi: I would see more AR4.5 and OD3.5 or 3.7 smth like that to balance your spread between Easy and Hard
2017-08-26 22:38 Nozhomi: also having same value for OD and AR is a bit edgy on lower diffs
2017-08-26 22:40 Nozhomi: I think it's weird to skip beats like 00:02:140 - / 00:06:892 - when you map some like 00:05:704 (2,3) - 
2017-08-26 22:40 ByBy: od 3.5
2017-08-26 22:40 ByBy: ar 4.5
2017-08-26 22:41 Nozhomi: yep should be definitly mapped when you look at your diff overall imo
2017-08-26 22:42 ByBy: done
2017-08-26 22:42 ByBy: also mapped 00:06:892 - before blame bakari
2017-08-26 22:43 Nozhomi: 00:59:161 (4,5) - flow could be definitly improved here. I would suggest you to think about an other pattern, because it feels clutered in the corner and makes it not good
2017-08-26 22:43 Nozhomi: lol
2017-08-26 22:45 ByBy: done
2017-08-26 22:49 Nozhomi: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1163949 toby fox - Snowdin Town [Easy]]
2017-08-26 22:49 Nozhomi: I would NC a bit more the intro like at 00:04:813 (3) - / 00:14:444 (4) - / 00:23:867 (5) - / ect... your combo are too long for an Easy holy
2017-08-26 22:52 ByBy: done aaa
2017-08-26 22:53 Nozhomi: oh and you forgot some clap like at 00:25:632 - 
2017-08-26 22:53 Nozhomi: check that :>
2017-08-26 22:54 Nozhomi: (there's a lot to add so yeah better double check)
2017-08-26 22:56 ByBy: done in easy
2017-08-26 22:56 Nozhomi: I also give Mir kudo for his mod because you forgot to do so
2017-08-26 22:56 Nozhomi: XD
2017-08-26 22:56 ByBy: were a lot of missing hitsounds and added
2017-08-26 22:56 ByBy: XDD
2017-08-26 22:56 ByBy: i forgot aaa
2017-08-26 22:57 Nozhomi: so update and let's see if you missed smth
2017-08-26 22:57 ByBy: k
2017-08-26 23:01 Nozhomi: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1163951 toby fox - Snowdin Town [Normal]]
2017-08-26 23:01 Nozhomi: 00:02:140 - forgot adding circle here
2017-08-26 23:01 Nozhomi: 00:11:813 - here too
2017-08-26 23:01 Nozhomi: and 00:16:523 - here
2017-08-26 23:02 ByBy: done
2017-08-26 23:03 Nozhomi: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1163952 toby fox - Snowdin Town [Snowy Christmas]]
2017-08-26 23:03 Nozhomi: 00:29:456 (3,4,1) - the spacing pls
2017-08-26 23:03 ByBy: k wait a min
2017-08-26 23:03 ByBy: fixing hs
2017-08-26 23:05 Nozhomi: k update again when you're done
2017-08-26 23:05 ByBy: k
2017-08-26 23:06 Nozhomi: oh
2017-08-26 23:06 Nozhomi: on Easy, seems 00:08:080 (3) - end is a bit unsnaped
2017-08-26 23:08 ByBy: it's because of timing change
2017-08-26 23:08 Nozhomi: should be possible to adjust it from the .osu directly
2017-08-26 23:08 ByBy: updated
2017-08-26 23:08 ByBy: :thinking:
2017-08-26 23:10 Nozhomi: yep possible
2017-08-26 23:11 Nozhomi: just change this on the osu file 460,277,8080,2,0,L|455:131,1,147,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
2017-08-26 23:11 Nozhomi: you'll see the value to change is 146.25
2017-08-26 23:12 Nozhomi: just put 147 and check it should be k with AiMod
2017-08-26 23:12 ByBy: no problems were found in this mapset!
2017-08-26 23:13 Nozhomi: :>
2017-08-26 23:13 Nozhomi: oki last update and should be gud
2017-08-26 23:14 ByBy: done
2017-08-26 23:14 Nozhomi: oh it's already done lol
2017-08-26 23:14 ByBy: xD
2017-08-26 23:15 Nozhomi: k
2017-08-26 23:15 Nozhomi: I guess metadata is good right ?
2017-08-26 23:15 ByBy: yes it is
2017-08-26 23:15 ByBy: wait a min to give the link
2017-08-26 23:16 ByBy: https://tobyfox.bandcamp.com/
2017-08-26 23:16 ByBy: undertale soundtrack by toby fox
2017-08-26 23:16 ByBy: not Toby Fox nor Toby "Radiation" Fox
2017-08-26 23:17 ByBy: plus as source you can add Undertale or UNDERTALE
2017-08-26 23:17 ByBy: i even played the game XD
2017-08-26 23:17 Nozhomi: yeah yeah I did too, even if I never finished sadly lol
2017-08-26 23:18 Nozhomi: you should change map description tho
2017-08-26 23:18 Nozhomi: Merry Christmas 2016! is a bit late LOL
2017-08-26 23:18 ByBy: lol
2017-08-26 23:18 ByBy: will change it
2017-08-26 23:18 ByBy: to Merry Summer Christmas xD
2017-08-26 23:18 ByBy: jk

B~
meii18
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thanks a lot! <3
Bonsai
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Bonsai
Oh hey there, not to be a partypooper, but since you took everything from Gero's set you also took the abundance of tags he used even though they mostly don't have any relevance to this particular song, all they do is flood the search results for the words that are used; I already talked Gero out of doing that in one of his later maps but this apparently was before that time xd

tl;dr please only use tags that have direct relevance with the song at hand instead of all that far-fetched nonsense
Pachiru
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As Bonsai said, there is few tags that are used twice or more like "Determination" for instance, plus I don't think that using a lot of tags like this can be useful. If someone want to get the map out of this song and he doesn't know the name of the song, he will just have to write "Undertale". Anyway, congratz for the bubble, and wish you best of luck for Heart icon ! :3
meii18
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@Bonsai @Pachiru will fix the tags once will get Natsu thanks a lot!
Okoratu
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Snowdin is not related to serial murder
neither is the great cool dude relevant
i think you got what i mean
the bg is soft spoiler
and snowdin isn't exactly related to xmas so maybe use a custom diffname that is uhhh not classing the song as something that it isnt i mean it's just a town theme lol


Kiai time seems to be extremely awkward, this song doesnt really have much of a chorus and the flashing gives a wrong impression on damn this is now gonna be intense

sliders such as 00:06:001 (3) - 00:01:249 (3) - 00:10:922 (3) - 00:15:632 (3) - can have their ends muted better


what

00:08:080 (3) - the end of this slider is unsnapped, you can change bpm on 00:08:080 - so that it ends up snapped to the next note as 1/1 (would require adding a 94 bpm line)
00:09:014 (4) - is placed on the wrong timing

also both slider-slide and slider-tick are muted in the soft set
Shurelia
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these tags tho idk if these are actually needed or not lol.

anyway you prolly can go with "Snowy" or just... "Insane" .
meii18
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@oko i wanted to get this map ranked before New Year but never happened perhaps will rename "Snowy" as Shurelia said sounds appropiate imo the kiai from insane and hard got remapped also the current bg is fine tbh and deleted slidertick lol

second point changed
i don't get the first point with 00:08:080 (3)-

cleaned up tags added undertale so the players won't have to turn on the caps lock to search the map nvm xD
Nozhomi
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Also agree with oko, kiai flash seems a bit unecessary since previous song section is more intense.
meii18
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removed the kiai section througout all diffs! \o/
Nozhomi
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Oky confirmed issues are resolved.
Go again~
meii18
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\owo/
edit: where's Natsu? xd
Natsu
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top

  1. 00:03:328 (3) - make it symmetrycal
  2. 00:08:080 (3) - 00:36:514 (3) - SAME, would looks a lot better
  3. 00:10:328 (2,3) - blanket is super off
  4. 00:24:162 (2,5,6) - same
  5. 00:38:867 (4,5,1) - spacing
  6. 00:41:220 (4,5,2,3,4) - be careful with the stack leniency, this looks so bad in game, try to turn on stacking on the editor
  7. 00:45:044 (1,3) - blanket is off
hard`

  1. 00:08:080 (3) - 00:56:809 (1) - make it symmetrical, would looks a lot better
  2. 00:15:038 (2) - touching the hp bar
  3. 00:27:103 (4,5,6) - the spacing is really weird and hard to read for a hard diff, use a constant spacing
easy

  1. 00:26:220 (3,4) - omg that blanket
meii18
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Natsu wrote:

top

  1. 00:03:328 (3) - make it symmetrycal done
  2. 00:08:080 (3) - 00:36:514 (3) - SAME, would looks a lot better will keep the first one i really love that zig-zag slider fixed the second one
  3. 00:10:328 (2,3) - blanket is super off fixed
  4. 00:24:162 (2,5,6) - same done
  5. 00:38:867 (4,5,1) - spacing fixed
  6. 00:41:220 (4,5,2,3,4) - be careful with the stack leniency, this looks so bad in game, try to turn on stacking on the editor unstacked them
  7. 00:45:044 (1,3) - blanket is off k done
hard`

  1. 00:08:080 (3) - 00:56:809 (1) - make it symmetrical, would looks a lot better for the first one as i stated in top diff
  2. 00:15:038 (2) - touching the hp bar done
  3. 00:27:103 (4,5,6) - the spacing is really weird and hard to read for a hard diff, use a constant spacing done
easy

  1. 00:26:220 (3,4) - omg that blanket D:! fixed
thanks!
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ok
meii18
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Natsu wrote:

ok
thanks a lot!! <3

edit: happy birthday wafu!
Naren
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when you look for maps and you see that no one has played and you are the first, fills you with determination.

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9076222

edit and pd: i typed by accident the same post
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Naren
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when you look for maps and you see that no one has played and you are the first, fills you with determination.

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9076222
Shmiklak
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Grats
Kyouren
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Congratulations! <3
and Happy Birthday, Wafu!
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