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Vext_old
Was on a ridiculously long waiting list for some college classes and planned on going when winter classes roll around.

However due to some recent events I'm pretty much gathering this is not the field I should be working toward, thus essentially completing my list of things I wanted to try, all of which ended in failure of some kind.

So now I'm out of ideas and have no idea what to do with myself, any suggestions on classes/subject matter to look into.

So far I have dabbled with;

Game design
Programming
Animal care (veterinarian and similar fields)
Pretty much all forms of art
Law enforcement (both legal aide/cop)
Cooking (what a pooting disaster)
Managerial work
Pretty much anything revolving around driving
Military (Health issues--was rejected)
Landscaping and all related work
(probably some others I forget now...)
And now Journalism, and writing. (I mean if my example article was not good enough to get in the osu! newspaper, as well as being turned down for some other things it's hopeless)

With that I am at wits end with life unsure what the hell to do, so any suggestion? I'm listening.
Starrodkirby86

Vext wrote:

And now Journalism, and writing. (I mean if my example article was not good enough to get in the osu! newspaper, as well as being turned down for some other things it's hopeless)
Have you sent an example article to jj? When you submitted your application, there was a lack of any example article or resumé to go off of, and therefore, we couldn't do anything about it (Since there wasn't anything to judge off of). If you've sent something to jj or Corin in the recent few days though, then I haven't seen it. :S
Sleep Powder
ITT: List of others Majors and Minors
Wojjan
Can someone fix the title to "List of studies with no safeguard of a job?"

Seriously, go for something with a good future (they should tell you this thing when you inform yourself) and study your fucking ass off. Also, quit hanging around online wasting all your seconds
Topic Starter
Vext_old

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

Vext wrote:

And now Journalism, and writing. (I mean if my example article was not good enough to get in the osu! newspaper, as well as being turned down for some other things it's hopeless)
Have you sent an example article to jj? When you submitted your application, there was a lack of any example article or resumé to go off of, and therefore, we couldn't do anything about it (Since there wasn't anything to judge off of). If you've sent something to jj or Corin in the recent few days though, then I haven't seen it. :S
Yes I did, it was a review of Resonance of Fate from a blog I used to do. I put it in the little box where it said to.

animask wrote:

ITT: List of others Majors and Minors
Well I was going to major in... erm well I'd have to find my papers to see the name they had for it but suffice to say it was a creative writing class (structure, grammar, spelling etc. Was not the same as english according to them) with a minor in journalism, was also taking the basics you know math and all that. (not all at once can't afford it, but yeah)

Wojjan wrote:

Can someone fix the title to "List of studies with no safeguard of a job?"

Seriously, go for something with a good future (they should tell you this thing when you inform yourself) and study your fucking ass off. Also, quit hanging around online wasting all your seconds
My safeguard was managerial followed by military as a last resort, which did not work out.
ddrXero64
Look at trade school, most of those careers are in high demand too.
Loginer

Vext wrote:

(I mean if my example article was not good enough to get in the osu! newspaper, as well as being turned down for some other things it's hopeless)
And there's your real problem: You lack motivation. Find something you have a passion for, and stick with it.
Starrodkirby86

Vext wrote:

Yes I did, it was a review of Resonance of Fate from a blog I used to do. I put it in the little box where it said to.
We didn't receive that. :/ The entry we have on it is blank.

Perhaps a resubmission would do?
Topic Starter
Vext_old

ddrXero64 wrote:

Look at trade school, most of those careers are in high demand too.
Just checked the schools around here, Most are things I have already tried or massage therapist... don't think so. Though there are about 3 or so that are a possibility, I'll look into those, thanks.

Loginer wrote:

Vext wrote:

(I mean if my example article was not good enough to get in the osu! newspaper, as well as being turned down for some other things it's hopeless)
And there's your real problem: You lack motivation. Find something you have a passion for, and stick with it.
I get what you're saying but I've tried many times with writing to poor feedback, this was more a final nail in the coffin deal rather than quitting. I mean some things are just not meant to be no matter how hard you try, not gonna' see a 3 foot dwarf playing basketball because he tries a little harder. :/

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

Vext wrote:

Yes I did, it was a review of Resonance of Fate from a blog I used to do. I put it in the little box where it said to.
We didn't receive that. :/ The entry we have on it is blank.

Perhaps a resubmission would do?
Very well though I don't particularly see the point anymore.
Krisom
Agronomy has a good future considering the food demand and the population growth these days. Besides, the career is very pretty if you like plants, and it's also very intresting, since there's tons of options on where to work later (crops, fruits, wine *o*, packaging, organic agriculture, pests control, EDIT: BEER too! etc.) :>
Well, that's from my point of view at least. SHAMELESS ADVERTISING

Also, good luck with your desicions ^^!
adam2046

Vext wrote:

not gonna' see a 3 foot dwarf playing basketball because he tries a little harder. :/
Except you probably would.
intermu
Or you could go volunteer. And meet lots of new people. Who knows in one of those instances you'll find that you're doing something you love. Hell, I'm in no position to say that (never volunteered and don't really like meeting people), but good advice goes around.

I personally just go with the flow. If I can't keep up, I try harder. I dropped out of engineering because I didn't like what I was studying and am studying economics now. Shit is fun.

But I'm quite a passive person with not much of a passion in some field so I just go with it.
ddrXero64
I thought I saw it up there, but I didn't.

It seems to me you're aiming for all the "safe" jobs, jobs with a secure future. That is a smart decision but I think the problem is they should be your plan B. I'm surprised you haven't looked into media.

First off, you don't mind being on camera. Fact. You have your own unique sense of humor, and with the right moves you can find the right audience or tweak it to appeal to the right audience. Look into certain types of media. Nothing too big like acting, but anything that'll bring you on camera. You're failing with all the safe jobs because everyone goes for them, but in a strange way I get the feeling you do better when the risk is higher and your chances of landing the position are against you. I'm surprised you dropped out of landscaping as well, it isn't something that takes extreme amounts of knowledge or skill.

Look into media and the other trade school stuff I showed you, specifically things like:

Filmmaking; cameraman, anchor, studio, minor acting, directing, etc. (Even dabble in photography, it's a different kind of art)

Carpentry, plumbing, electrician, etc. Look into jobs that specialize in renewable energy sources, by the time you learn it the market should be close to exploding. Wind energy, solar energy, the knowledge to work with this is worth a lot nowadays.

Adult films: They pay a lot, and gay porn tends to pay up to 10 times more in certain situations. Very rewarding career.

Though you didn't do well in animal care, the medical field is in dire need of people. Look into the fields that are especially begging for people, they'll take you no matter how good you are and offer a lot for benefits. If you can't find your place, then fill in a place where it's needed most, they'll practically hand you your paycheck.
Loginer

Vext wrote:

I get what you're saying but I've tried many times with writing to poor feedback, this was more a final nail in the coffin deal rather than quitting. I mean some things are just not meant to be no matter how hard you try, not gonna' see a 3 foot dwarf playing basketball because he tries a little harder. :/
That dwarf would always be at a disadvantage. You have the ability to overcome yours with practice.

How much time did you spend with the various things on your list before giving up? Was there anything in particular you had fun with?
Topic Starter
Vext_old
Post got long...

SPOILER

Krisom wrote:

Agronomy has a good future considering the food demand and the population growth these days. Besides, the career is very pretty if you like plants, and it's also very intresting, since there's tons of options on where to work later (crops, fruits, wine *o*, packaging, organic agriculture, pests control, EDIT: BEER too! etc.) :>
Well, that's from my point of view at least. SHAMELESS ADVERTISING

Also, good luck with your desicions ^^!
Never even heard of it, will look into it.

adam2046 wrote:

Vext wrote:

not gonna' see a 3 foot dwarf playing basketball because he tries a little harder. :/
Except you probably would.
Truth be told I'd rather watch that than an actual basketball game.

intermu wrote:

Or you could go volunteer. And meet lots of new people. Who knows in one of those instances you'll find that you're doing something you love. Hell, I'm in no position to say that (never volunteered and don't really like meeting people), but good advice goes around.

I personally just go with the flow. If I can't keep up, I try harder. I dropped out of engineering because I didn't like what I was studying and am studying economics now. Shit is fun.

But I'm quite a passive person with not much of a passion in some field so I just go with it.
I actually have a few on the list, I volunteered at the District Attorney's office trying out the legal aide, lawyer, cop etc. deal, as well as animal shelter (I still do but vet is just not for me) and nursing home (which I forgot to put on the list oh well).

ddrXero64 wrote:

I thought I saw it up there, but I didn't.

It seems to me you're aiming for all the "safe" jobs, jobs with a secure future. That is a smart decision but I think the problem is they should be your plan B. I'm surprised you haven't looked into media.

First off, you don't mind being on camera. Fact. You have your own unique sense of humor, and with the right moves you can find the right audience or tweak it to appeal to the right audience. Look into certain types of media. Nothing too big like acting, but anything that'll bring you on camera. You're failing with all the safe jobs because everyone goes for them, but in a strange way I get the feeling you do better when the risk is higher and your chances of landing the position are against you. I'm surprised you dropped out of landscaping as well, it isn't something that takes extreme amounts of knowledge or skill.

Look into media and the other trade school stuff I showed you, specifically things like:

Filmmaking; cameraman, anchor, studio, minor acting, directing, etc. (Even dabble in photography, it's a different kind of art)

Carpentry, plumbing, electrician, etc. Look into jobs that specialize in renewable energy sources, by the time you learn it the market should be close to exploding. Wind energy, solar energy, the knowledge to work with this is worth a lot nowadays.

Adult films: They pay a lot, and gay porn tends to pay up to 10 times more in certain situations. Very rewarding career.

Though you didn't do well in animal care, the medical field is in dire need of people. Look into the fields that are especially begging for people, they'll take you no matter how good you are and offer a lot for benefits. If you can't find your place, then fill in a place where it's needed most, they'll practically hand you your paycheck.
Well, The whole acting deal doesn't appeal to me but doesn't "not" appeal to me, I could give it a shot but I think you need a bit of a passion for it to succeed in that field, camera prolly not a good idea with hands and carpentry, plumbing, etc. Falls close enough to why I could not do landscaping, However you bring to mind drafting, which sounds interesting, problem being it's not particularly a booming business right now... Gay porn? Can do.

Loginer wrote:

Vext wrote:

I get what you're saying but I've tried many times with writing to poor feedback, this was more a final nail in the coffin deal rather than quitting. I mean some things are just not meant to be no matter how hard you try, not gonna' see a 3 foot dwarf playing basketball because he tries a little harder. :/
That dwarf would always be at a disadvantage. You have the ability to overcome yours with practice.

How much time did you spend with the various things on your list before giving up? Was there anything in particular you had fun with?
Certain things longer than others, on average a year for each, some of them 3 months, but for the most part I spent a lot of time trying, most just plain did not work out for some unforeseen reason that I can't get around, like health problems for military and drawing not working due to shaky hands or that I happen to be the worlds worst chef. X3

Only things I liked and thought I was ok at were landscaping (doctor advised against it) and writing/reviewing/journalism, pretty much the whole area.

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

resubmission
Done, took a few to find my flash drive with saved blogs.
ddrXero64

Vext wrote:

Gay porn? Can do.
In that case, do gay porn. It pays like what, 5,000 dollars for one film at times? If you're willing, easiest money in the world.

I would never do that shit, but some people do it like nothing.
Hijiri Tezuka

ddrXero64 wrote:

Vext wrote:

Gay porn? Can do.
In that case, do gay porn. It pays like what, 5,000 dollars for one film at times? If you're willing, easiest money in the world.

I would never do that shit, but some people do it like nothing.
Depravity leads us to do things that we don;t want to do. When you're at your wits end for money and only have a few legal options available then you'll probably go for the easiest, most paying one.
Cuddlebun
sometimes I forget that not everyone has their life planned out like me

healthcare is always excellent for a stable career field, and you don't have to go to medical school to do it. For example, I am studying to be a radiologic technologist; I only have to study for four years and once I'm out I will have a degree that I can use in any hospital in several countries, and with the continuing rise of usage of radiologic machines, there will be plenty of career opportunities for me. If I work for a few years and decide I want to go to medical school to be a radiologist, then I can make more money, but if I don't I can still have a stable, good job. (technologists work the machines and help diagnose, radiologists are the doctors that decide what to do with the diagnosis)

tl;dr go into healthcare, you'll have a good job even if you're on a lower level than actual doctors, and there will always be a job somewhere for you.



Just a quick suggestion from me, since I didn't see healthcare in the various other suggestions.
Sleep Powder
tldr; version of above post

Hospital jobs and healthcare jobs are in demand in a lot of places. They can provide good stable jobs. (Be transferred to other places instead of getting laid off [yummy] is a possibility.)

Maybe scientist jobs as well.

I'm studying Psychology.
jjrocks
go into programming and make osu2!
ddrXero64
I advised medical, but he seems to have done bad in veterinarian care, which has a lot of medical equipment to work with.

I said gay porn because he said in all seriousness he'd do it. This means it wouldn't have been done in depravity. Out of everyone I know and everyone I've met I've only had one transgender friend (long time DDR player I knew, had a sex change in the past year). She (was a he before) recently admitted she was going into the adult film industry because it was something she wanted to do.

Before this person I thought this industry was full of sorry failures, but there are actually people who enjoy that stuff. I could never imagine enjoying something as crude as that, but to each his own. So if he would actually enjoy doing it, for 5,000$ a short film why not let him do it? Not our place to judge.

For the tl;dr version:

If you actually wouldn't mind doing adult film, do it. If not, stick to medical, like I said before. The world will never have enough medical workers, so they could always use more people to make the world a healthier place.

Note: Healthcare provides a huge amount of positions, it's one of the most vaguest careers. So look into everything, not just what you're used to seeing.
Pokebis
Be a veterinarian.
Sinistro
What Loginer said takes precedence imo, in that you should consider retrying career paths you've tried before (and enjoyed while they lasted, preferably) instead of writing them off after they didn't work out once (I'm assuming you tried each about once because you're young and there's a lot of them).
Noobita

Pokebis wrote:

Be a veterinarian.

Vext wrote:

Animal care (veterinarian and similar fields)
awp
Couple points. One, not to discredit it, but you can't let that osu! newsletter rejection mean anything. It's not a professional establishment and you're pandering to people who in all likelihood have less experience with the subject matter than yourself.

What Loginer has said thus far can be taken as sage advice. You lack motivation and commitment - this is evident in the laundry list of things you've dabbled in. It can be tough to find something you're interested in enough to consider a career in it, but don't let job security be your primary criteria. It's very important that you find something you enjoy doing, and stick with it. Even if you can get a job doing something you don't enjoy, it's really not worth your while.
Ephemeral
just do what you enjoy doing

enjoying something will give you some degree of proficiency in it and if you enjoy it enough, you may just be able to make money out of it

i'm majoring in psychology which vaguely interests me only because i can't take linguistics at my current college. i'm only using psychology as a buffer for a postgraduate degree
awp

Ephemeral wrote:

i'm only using psychology as a buffer for a postgraduate degree
Good call on that one
Faust
Dear Vext.

EDIT: Turned out wrong, too lazy to fix now.

Shellghost
I'm not sure what age you actually are, but i do know that Law enforcement tends to deny younger applicants simply because they're young.

This can vary, but it's usually due to you not having an opimal amount of life experience in their eyes.
intermu
Or now that I think about it, get a certification to teach English as a second language and move to other countries to teach English! Should be lots of fun, and you get a fresh breath of air as well.
ddrXero64
Jeez, that's right. Did you try education? Try learning to teach something you already know rather than learning to do something you have difficulty with.
Topic Starter
Vext_old
Long again.

SPOILER
@ gay porn

Honestly I wouldn't pass it up (not gay, but not like I care either). However I think I'- 5k a pop you say....I need to get some hot gay guy abs I think... kekeke.

@Healthcare

Well when I did the vet deal, part of the thing I couldn't stand was the suffering animal situation, while volunteering I now no longer am near that because it just gets to me seeing it. I pretty much gathered that doctor/nurse would have the same effect. The idea of a medical field behind the scenes however is something I hadn't considered, I will add that to things to look into, thank you.

jjrocks wrote:

go into programming and make osu2!
Programming already on the list.

Sinistro wrote:

What Loginer said takes precedence imo, in that you should consider retrying career paths you've tried before (and enjoyed while they lasted, preferably) instead of writing them off after they didn't work out once (I'm assuming you tried each about once because you're young and there's a lot of them).
Well, problem with it is the things I enjoy I can still do. I DO, do landscaping for my grandmother and uncle because they are too sick/old to take care of it themselves, I enjoy it enough to make a career though I don't think in the cards. The writing I still can do, nothing prevents a person from blogging or writing fanfic or really anything creative. However it's not always possible to make a career of it.

awp wrote:

Couple points. One, not to discredit it, but you can't let that osu! newsletter rejection mean anything. It's not a professional establishment and you're pandering to people who in all likelihood have less experience with the subject matter than yourself.

What Loginer has said thus far can be taken as sage advice. You lack motivation and commitment - this is evident in the laundry list of things you've dabbled in. It can be tough to find something you're interested in enough to consider a career in it, but don't let job security be your primary criteria. It's very important that you find something you enjoy doing, and stick with it. Even if you can get a job doing something you don't enjoy, it's really not worth your while.
I agree, I'm not going to be doing a job I hate for stability. The reason I tried everything I did was because it held a portion of interest to me. Same with every suggestion on here, if it's not something that's for me then I won't bother.

Faust wrote:

Dear Vext.

EDIT: Turned out wrong, too lazy to fix now.
Hah, brings to mind Bruce Almighty where he's begging for a sign from god of what to do and a giant truck full of stop signs pulls in front of him, only to ignore it and speed past crashing his car. I'd be lying if I said I hadn't considered teaching.

intermu wrote:

Or now that I think about it, get a certification to teach English as a second language and move to other countries to teach English! Should be lots of fun, and you get a fresh breath of air as well.
This is actually one thing I want to pursue and that I have actually considered. The idea of it sounds highly appealing to me. The only problem is I would have to wait since locally I cannot take a few classes that I would need and I would have to move for those and then eventually for the job and at the moment I can't do that because of family problems that rely on me.

Shellghost wrote:

I'm not sure what age you actually are, but i do know that Law enforcement tends to deny younger applicants simply because they're young.

This can vary, but it's usually due to you not having an opimal amount of life experience in their eyes.
Yes, part of the problem as well is that around here most every county law enforcement job is being laid off, so getting hired is several times more difficult. It's not impossible, though I just don't feel it worth the large amount of work it would take seeing as how I only somewhat liked it.
ddrXero64

Vext wrote:

It's not impossible, though I just don't feel it worth the large amount of work it would take seeing as how I only somewhat liked it.
That's the problem, and Loginer has said it already. When it comes down to it, you're being picky. This isn't dinner, it's your life, you need a little more motivation. Not much more anyone here can do but tell you that.
Topic Starter
Vext_old

ddrXero64 wrote:

Vext wrote:

It's not impossible, though I just don't feel it worth the large amount of work it would take seeing as how I only somewhat liked it.
That's the problem, and Loginer has said it already. When it comes down to it, you're being picky. This isn't dinner, it's your life, you need a little more motivation. Not much more anyone here can do but tell you that.
I agree I need more motivation but that's not the point here. You claim because it is life you can't be fickle, however life is a long term commitment and not a short trial. I disagree and declare you SHOULD be picky when choosing a career to set the rest of your life in motion rather than hopping on the first train because it's convenient. Also, I was saying it's not THAT interesting as in "I could do it if I have to but it doesn't wow me". So no, motivation will not help in any way with something I'm not wild about considering the long educational experience needed+ effort and luck required to wrangle the job.
Sleep Powder
tldr; version of the above post (yes, I read the whole thing first)
SPOILER
Vext is talking about choosing a career and not so much a job.

A life (is like a career and) isn't a short trial, but it is a life long commitment.

Motivation will not help when it also relies on dedication and interest.

He is capable of learning how to do things, but he is not interested in doing everything.

ddrXero64's point of view is: (and Loginer?)

You need to choose something already. Although, this would make sense if it was a job rather than a career.

Don't give up. Some people have no idea what they want to do in college anyways.
intermu
Hell, I don't for one.
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