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Is HR or HD better for training accuracy?

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Endaris
Pray to thelewa every day.
And read stickies.
B1rd
HD or nomod are good for developing accuracy at your level. Playing HR before you have mastered low AR and OD8 would just be counter productive.
PinkNightmares

jesse1412 wrote:

Do the opposite of what everyone in this thread is saying.
Including you?
rekhichem
hr is nice to get a better acc but it's too early for you imo
go to maps that you fced , edit them and put od=8
gl :D
jesse1412

B1oody wrote:

jesse1412 wrote:

Do the opposite of what everyone in this thread is saying.
Including you?
No, including you.
Topic Starter
Llahmah 2

rekhichem wrote:

hr is nice to get a better acc but it's too early for you imo
go to maps that you fced , edit them and put od=8
gl :D
Thanks, will do :D
B1rd
This is a good example of why not to always trust high ranked players to give good advice.
[-CeMAqpOP-]kee
hd is reading mod
hr is aim and accuracy mod
dt is speed and kinda accuracy mod

how hard is it
[Haku]

Fser wrote:

hd is reading mod
hr is aim and accuracy mod
dt is speed and kinda accuracy mod

how hard is it
Lol
7ambda

Fser wrote:

hd is reading mod
hr is aim and accuracy mod
dt is speed and kinda accuracy mod

how hard is it
I didn't understand. Please keep your wording simple next time.
Yukitemi
I edited bunch of maps to 8 AR and 10 OD, and played them every day. I think low AR and high OD will improve cursor control aswell as accuracy coz you're not pressing notes as soon as they pop.

oridunno, that helped me.
N0thingSpecial
Yea pretty much
B1rd
Don't forget to edit CS to 5 as well.
Zain Sugieres
Step 1: stop being american
Endie-
Just play.
Topic Starter
Llahmah 2

Zain Sugieres wrote:

Step 1: stop being american
Currently attempting
Nattsun
I've learned accuracy on DJPop and nightcore maps. Just download the nightcore pack(s) and you are ready to go, even the hard 3* maps are OD=8.

I'm playing HR and HD sometimes, HD if I'm playing a random ~4.5* map that I FCd before as a warmup, it helps clicking to the beat, I don't react to the approachcirlces anyway, if it sounds melodic you are probably doing it right. HR is just too hard in my opinion, it's not the mod I'd use for learning accuracy, I'd use the mod for the sake of learning HR. If you want higher OD you can always edit the maps.

Just a few suggestions for you, that I play every now and then to "improve" my accuracy, they helped me a lot:

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/131098 (just found this one, but I'll definitely pick it up, it's great to focus on accuracy)

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/533332?m=0 (OD9, beautiful mapping, the jumps are mapped on the onbeat, you can focus just on the rhythm [lunatic])

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/39514 (OD8, this map helped me to get the "mechanics". I've learned doubles and a general sense for rhythm on this map [insane])

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/101236 (OD8, a map with tons of triples, took some time to get 99% acc, but it definitely paid off for me [insane])

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/363982 (OD8, slow streams a few jumps and overall a really enjoyable map[insane])

You can also do it the hard way, play all 5* DJPop maps 1000 times, there you go, pro accuracy and a free broken keyboard.

EDIT: Actually, grinding out your scores until you peak at 99% accuracy is an option too.
Topic Starter
Llahmah 2

Ruuu x3 wrote:

I've learned accuracy on DJPop and nightcore maps. Just download the nightcore pack(s) and you are ready to go, even the hard 3* maps are OD=8.

I'm playing HR and HD sometimes, HD if I'm playing a random ~4.5* map that I FCd before as a warmup, it helps clicking to the beat, I don't react to the approachcirlces anyway, if it sounds melodic you are probably doing it right. HR is just too hard in my opinion, it's not the mod I'd use for learning accuracy, I'd use the mod for the sake of learning HR. If you want higher OD you can always edit the maps.

Just a few suggestions for you, that I play every now and then to "improve" my accuracy, they helped me a lot:

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/131098 (just found this one, but I'll definitely pick it up, it's great to focus on accuracy)

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/533332?m=0 (OD9, beautiful mapping, the jumps are mapped on the onbeat, you can focus just on the rhythm [lunatic])

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/39514 (OD8, this map helped me to get the "mechanics". I've learned doubles and a general sense for rhythm on this map [insane])

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/101236 (OD8, a map with tons of triples, took some time to get 99% acc, but it definitely paid off for me [insane])

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/363982 (OD8, slow streams a few jumps and overall a really enjoyable map[insane])

You can also do it the hard way, play all 5* DJPop maps 1000 times, there you go, pro accuracy and a free broken keyboard.

EDIT: Actually, grinding out your scores until you peak at 99% accuracy is an option too.
Thank you, this is easily the most helpful reply I've ever gotten :)
Nattsun

Llahmah wrote:

Ruuu x3 wrote:

I've learned accuracy on DJPop and nightcore maps. Just download the nightcore pack(s) and you are ready to go, even the hard 3* maps are OD=8.

I'm playing HR and HD sometimes, HD if I'm playing a random ~4.5* map that I FCd before as a warmup, it helps clicking to the beat, I don't react to the approachcirlces anyway, if it sounds melodic you are probably doing it right. HR is just too hard in my opinion, it's not the mod I'd use for learning accuracy, I'd use the mod for the sake of learning HR. If you want higher OD you can always edit the maps.

Just a few suggestions for you, that I play every now and then to "improve" my accuracy, they helped me a lot:

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/131098 (just found this one, but I'll definitely pick it up, it's great to focus on accuracy)

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/533332?m=0 (OD9, beautiful mapping, the jumps are mapped on the onbeat, you can focus just on the rhythm [lunatic])

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/39514 (OD8, this map helped me to get the "mechanics". I've learned doubles and a general sense for rhythm on this map [insane])

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/101236 (OD8, a map with tons of triples, took some time to get 99% acc, but it definitely paid off for me [insane])

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/363982 (OD8, slow streams a few jumps and overall a really enjoyable map[insane])

You can also do it the hard way, play all 5* DJPop maps 1000 times, there you go, pro accuracy and a free broken keyboard.

EDIT: Actually, grinding out your scores until you peak at 99% accuracy is an option too.
Thank you, this is easily the most helpful reply I've ever gotten :)
Feel free to message me, we can play some maps together :P
NixXSkate
At your rank, I'd practice with hidden on the current level your playing on, or play songs with equal AR and OD. Once you start getting comfortable with AR9 OD8 with hidden and/or AR8 OD8, then I'd move on to hard rock a bit to get the precision of OD10 down. Jumping into hard rock too early would probably be inefficient.
TSGWhatever
I would say HD is better for accuracy training because the lack of approach circles forces you to really listen to the song while playing. This will most likely improve your acc in the long run.

You should wait a while before starting to train HR (or HDHR, your choice) for reasons already stated. Of course, when you can consistently get 99% accuracy on OD8-9 maps, then HR may be benefitial, but until then,I would not play it extensively.
Osuology
Both HR and HD can be very beneficial to use to get better acc.

Just note that HR can cause reading problems, so the best way is to instead, make custom difficulties of certain maps, changing OD to 10, CS to 5.2, and HP to 9-10. But not changing the AR, this way you get everything but the AR change so you don't lose your reading.
Kiritsugu_old_1
Neither. Just play no-mod and try to get good aim. Playing HR or any mods is not recommended until you get to at least 3k rank. (what a 200rank friend told me)
NixXSkate

Kiritsugu wrote:

Neither. Just play no-mod and try to get good aim. Playing HR or any mods is not recommended until you get to at least 3k rank. (what a 200rank friend told me)
I don't know when they told you this but getting 3k rank gets drastically harder every year. I don't see how using HD is bad at any rank, and it's hard to train speed if you never use DT. I can see why trying to learn OD10 would be inefficient without proper aim and finger control, but I think it's ok to start learning HR somewhere between 4000-4500pp or more if you wanted.
tfg50
short answer: HD

long answer: if you are like me and your acc gets better as you know the song/map better, you'll benefit from playing tons of different songs. I'm able to get tons of SS on HDHR but most of my plays were nomod/HD. HR will just confuse you if you can't play it properly and if you play DT too soon, you'll develop bad habits because of the lack of speed. That being said, you shouldn't be scared of trying it once in a while. Imo the time to start trying some mods more frequently is when you get to 3.5k-4k pp.

Also, the most accurate players can play just about anything from ar8 to ar10, being a high ar junky isn't the same as having good acc even if you can get 98-99% on HR. I know quite a few people that get higher acc playing HR rather than nomod because their acc doesn't come from simply good accuracy but from good reactions to AR10. The same can be said about AR8+dt, especially when the bpm gets higher.
Kiritsugu_old_1

NixXSkate wrote:

Kiritsugu wrote:

Neither. Just play no-mod and try to get good aim. Playing HR or any mods is not recommended until you get to at least 3k rank. (what a 200rank friend told me)
I don't know when they told you this but getting 3k rank gets drastically harder every year. I don't see how using HD is bad at any rank, and it's hard to train speed if you never use DT. I can see why trying to learn OD10 would be inefficient without proper aim and finger control, but I think it's ok to start learning HR somewhere between 4000-4500pp or more if you wanted.
about an year ago xd
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