This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, September 04, 2011 at 9:51:18 PM

Artist: ROSE
Title: SPEED OVER BEETHOVEN
Source: Dance Dance Revolution
Tags: Extreme Bass-chan Crimmi Ludvig Van Beethoven Fur Elise DDR Backfire
BPM: 169
Filesize: 13115kb
Play Time: 01:25
Difficulties Available:

1. Backfire's Taiko Oni (4.78 stars, 613 notes)
2. Bass-chan's Easy (1.75 stars, 76 notes)
3. Crimmi's Normal (4.24 stars, 166 notes)
4. Hard (4.73 stars, 192 notes)
5. Insane (5 stars, 281 notes)

Download: ROSE - SPEED OVER BEETHOVEN
Download: ROSE - SPEED OVER BEETHOVEN (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Edit: Backfire's Taiko added. Now I'm awaiting Darcsol's Hard.

Edit: Louis Cyphre mods applied.

Edit: Some stuff done that Darcsol said in IRC + the post about the video.

Edit: Shiirn hard mods applied.

Edit: Crimmi asked if he could make me a Normal (i needed one). The Normal is quite nice. Thank you Crimmers! (DDR MAPPER BROS FOR EVER)

Edit: Crimmi gave me a video. (i have reason to believe he is stalking my maps)

Hard and Bass-chan's Easy added!

Bass-chan's Easy came from his graved set that he told me I can use if I needed an Easy.

It needs just a bit of work but it will definitely do.

Hard is 3/4 decent. Im not particularly proud of it.

Yeah the insane diff is probably the best diff on the set.

Well happy modding.

PLEASE NOTE THE VIDEO IS COLOR CHANGING A LOT AT FAST PACES AND IS POSSIBLY EPILEPTIC.

LISTEN TO BEETHOVEN

ROSE - SPEED OVER BEETHOVEN.AVI

Crimmi wrote:

LISTEN TO BEETHOVEN

ROSE - SPEED OVER BEETHOVEN.AVI

Crimmi where are you finding these videos lol.

Zelos wrote:

Crimmi wrote:

LISTEN TO BEETHOVEN

ROSE - SPEED OVER BEETHOVEN.AVI

Crimmi where are you finding these videos lol.

My DDR Files. (Need more just holler.)

Crimmi wrote:

I'm a fellow DDR Mapper just like you.

Zelos wrote:

Crimmi gave me a video. (i have reason to believe he is stalking my maps)

NO I'M NOT!! Maybe.... :p look at my signature to see why lol

Plus My Diff.

Download: ROSE - SPEED OVER BEETHOVEN (Zelos) [Normal].osu

General
If you have hitcircle.png you must have hitcircle-overlay.png (I think)
That bg is crap
.avi file compression makes me want to stab my eyes with a fork, use a better compression or general file type (flv works wonders)

Easy
00:27:040 (1) - spinner way too close to next note. General rule of thumb is that you shouldn't be able to see the next note too clearly by the time the spinner ends.
00:34:140 (1) - ^
00:45:501 (1) - this is better but still iffy
00:56:862 (1) - this one is fine
the difficulty curve really increases over the map's time. Feels lazily done.

Normal
Meh, didn't like it but nothing wrong i guess

Hard
00:06:803 (4,5,6) - align with 1,2,3 for good square
00:44:081 (1,2,3) - stack ends together

Insane
Nothing wrong i guess, didn't look too hard

Shiirn wrote:

stuff

Ok. thanks for modding.

[General]
I agree with Shiirn, the BG is crap
You should add a comment in the Creator's Words about the epilepsy from the video. Give players a warning

[Bass-chan's Easy]
01:10:886 (1,2,3) Might be too difficult for some
01:25:265 (3,4) Remove those two beats and move the Spinner at that time. You may need to shrink the Spinner. It felt unnecessary to have those beats, just end the map
I don't what else to say about this map. The Hitsounds sound random. The Spinner felt weird. It felt lazy.

[Crimmi's Normal]
00:17:631 (5,6) This part felt really awkward to me
Some parts felt too hard for a Normal, but I guess most of them are fine.

[Hard]
00:11:418 (Optional) (1,2,3,4) Lengthen those Beats! Maybe adjust them around 1.2 - 1.4x Distance Spacing. If not, at least move both (1) and (2) a square to the left to keep it symmetrical
01:25:442 Why don't you add a spinner at the end of the map?

[Insane]
01:12:484 (Optional) Remove the Spinner and add some beats to it!
01:25:442 Again, Spinner?
Not as hard but fun; clearly the best difficulty in the map.


Aright map. Felt like I skipped some problems, but I think other Modders would catch it. Star~

Darcsol wrote:

[General]
I agree with Shiirn, the BG is crap I prefer authentic BGs
You should add a comment in the Creator's Words about the epilepsy from the video. Give players a warning sure why not.

[Bass-chan's Easy]
01:10:886 (1,2,3) Might be too difficult for some
01:25:265 (3,4) Remove those two beats and move the Spinner at that time. You may need to shrink the Spinner. It felt unnecessary to have those beats, just end the map
I don't what else to say about this map. The Hitsounds sound random. The Spinner felt weird. It felt lazy.

[Crimmi's Normal]
00:17:631 (5,6) This part felt really awkward to me
Some parts felt too hard for a Normal, but I guess most of them are fine.

[Hard]
00:11:418 (Optional) (1,2,3,4) Lengthen those Beats! Maybe adjust them around 1.2 - 1.4x Distance Spacing. If not, at least move both (1) and (2) a square to the left to keep it symmetrical umm no thanks.
01:25:442 Why don't you add a spinner at the end of the map? because I generally don't like to do that unless its fits. *points to Tsugaru*

[Insane]
01:12:484 (Optional) Remove the Spinner and add some beats to it! the spinner was so i could copy pasta like a boss.
01:25:442 Again, Spinner? no thanks.
Not as hard but fun; clearly the best difficulty in the map.


Aright map. Felt like I skipped some problems, but I think other Modders would catch it. Star~

Thank you Darc bro.

Darcsol wrote:

I agree with Shiirn, the BG is crap

As you havent noticed, that's the official BG of that song and it's from an old game that's why the BG looks sucky.

But in any case Tada!:

Darcsol wrote:

[Crimmi's Normal]
00:17:631 (5,6) This part felt really awkward to me I always follow the music, so no.
Some parts felt too hard for a Normal, but I guess most of them are fine. My Normals are never too Hard...

Fur Elise ~<3

[General]
- Background size is incorrect. it must be 4:3 with minimum/maximum width 800/1024 and minimum/maximum height 640/768
- Add to tags: "Ludvig Van Beethoven Fur Elise DDR"
- Don't really get why you add "Epilepsy warning image". I think you need to remove it from all difficulties.
- Remove Countdown in all difficulties or add them on all. On some diffs it's turn'd on, on some not.
- Reduce please volume of hitsounds by 10-20% It's too loud.
- Set Audio Lead-in to 1.5.
- I don't really like hitcircles, sorry.

[Easy]
OD -1
Level Grid 2, most of sliders are linear, and with such "high" velocity for the easiest difficulty it seems that it dose not fit .
As i see all you use only finish hitsound. Please add some claps and/or whistles.
Tick Rate 2? don't think that it fits, i'd set "1",


00:01:478 (1) - add finish at start
00:14:259 (2) - ^
00:18:164 (1) - ^ at the end.
00:21:359 (3) - ^ at the start
00:24:200 (2) - ^
00:27:040 (1) - fills random, so random.
00:34:140 (1) - ^, tbh all spinner seems for me random.
00:28:815 (1) - way too soon after spinner for the easiest difficulty in mapset
00:36:981 (1) - ^
00:38:401 (3) - make some better shape? Most of sliders are linear and here you use odd shape. May be make another pattern with those 3 sliders? 00:36:981 (1,2,3)
01:26:685 (1) - spinner? No sound at all. Also hit at the slider end, silence at least that sound.

I didn't enjoy this difficulty, it seems for me too square and boring. I know this is "Easy", let newbie players get some fun too.

[Normal]
Almost same difficulty settings. But you need to add at least one point to AR. Also such count of beats, i'd call this "Hard" not normal.
There are so much places where you need finish hitsounds and only them, Please go through map and add some.
Also better to turn on grid snap, check whole map and fix some inconsistency in spacing.

00:01:478 (1) - add finish
00:11:418 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - highly suggest to remake this pattern, looks and plays weird. May be use note, ... , slider repeat, ... note? http://puu.sh/2t5v ?
00:15:679 (1) - add finish at start, TBH There are so much places where you need finish hitsounds, Please go through map and add some. So i won't write anything about hitsounds.
00:30:235 (6) - add new combo
00:32:720 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - it's so boring, why not make a pattern here? Also 00:35:560 (1) - i understand it's marked as a new combo, but please keep consistency same as previous notes.
00:45:856 (6,7,8) - more fantasy, more style instead of boring stacks.
01:07:513 (2,3) - ^
01:08:933 (5,6) - ^ . . .
00:59:702 (3,4,5,6) - this might confuse middling players, at least space away triplet.
01:13:904 (1,2,3) - make better shape? http://puu.sh/2t63

431,192,73904,6,0,B|376:176|320:200|360:264|312:296|253:272,1,220
256,176,74969,1,0
256,80,75324,2,0,B|197:56|149:88|189:152|133:176|78:160,1,220

01:25:265 (1) - silence spinner end.

[Hard]

00:01:478 - Well i understand you chose vocal road, but it seems so empty here, highly suggest to add here a note with hit finish hitsound.
00:02:365 (2,1,2) - double repeats on 2 sliders, feels so boring.
01:23:667 (7) - add new combo
01:08:933 (1) - remove new combo

I like this difficulty, it seems more fun then others

[Insane]
HP Drain -1/-2
00:25:620 (1,2,3,5,6,7,8) - more symmetric, more! http://puu.sh/2t8b

272,40,25620,5,2
304,24,25708,1,0
336,24,25797,1,0
368,40,25886,1,0
384,72,25975,1,2
392,104,26063,1,0
416,128,26152,1,0
448,128,26241,1,0
480,112,26330,2,2,B|448:208,3,95

Lesjuh style stream xD
00:36:981 (1) - - Make better shape? http://puu.sh/2t8w

432,192,36981,6,2,B|344:264|256:192|168:120|72:192,1,380

Also add new combo
00:39:821 (6) - new combo
00:42:661 (7) - ^
00:42:661 (7,2,3,4) - looks so odd. Remake pattern?
00:58:282 (1,2,3,4) - don't agree with those jumps, you overdid them
01:12:484 (1) - so random again.

Like this difficulty. but some jumps are overdid.

Starring this map!

Louis Cyphre wrote:

Fur Elise ~<3

[General]
- Background size is incorrect. it must be 4:3 with minimum/maximum width 800/1024 and minimum/maximum height 640/768
- Add to tags: "Ludvig Van Beethoven Fur Elise DDR"
- Don't really get why you add "Epilepsy warning image". I think you need to remove it from all difficulties.
- Remove Countdown in all difficulties or add them on all. On some diffs it's turn'd on, on some not.
- Reduce please volume of hitsounds by 10-20% It's too loud.
- Set Audio Lead-in to 1.5.
- I don't really like hitcircles, sorry.

[Easy]
OD -1
Level Grid 2, most of sliders are linear, and with such "high" velocity for the easiest difficulty it seems that it dose not fit .
As i see all you use only finish hitsound. Please add some claps and/or whistles.
Tick Rate 2? don't think that it fits, i'd set "1",


00:01:478 (1) - add finish at start
00:14:259 (2) - ^
00:18:164 (1) - ^ at the end.
00:21:359 (3) - ^ at the start
00:24:200 (2) - ^
00:27:040 (1) - fills random, so random.
00:34:140 (1) - ^, tbh all spinner seems for me random.
00:28:815 (1) - way too soon after spinner for the easiest difficulty in mapset
00:36:981 (1) - ^
00:38:401 (3) - make some better shape? Most of sliders are linear and here you use odd shape. May be make another pattern with those 3 sliders? 00:36:981 (1,2,3)
01:26:685 (1) - spinner? No sound at all. Also hit at the slider end, silence at least that sound.

I didn't enjoy this difficulty, it seems for me too square and boring. I know this is "Easy", let newbie players get some fun too.

[Normal]
Almost same difficulty settings. But you need to add at least one point to AR. Also such count of beats, i'd call this "Hard" not normal.
There are so much places where you need finish hitsounds and only them, Please go through map and add some.
Also better to turn on grid snap, check whole map and fix some inconsistency in spacing.

00:01:478 (1) - add finish
00:11:418 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - highly suggest to remake this pattern, looks and plays weird. May be use note, ... , slider repeat, ... note? http://puu.sh/2t5v ?
00:15:679 (1) - add finish at start, TBH There are so much places where you need finish hitsounds, Please go through map and add some. So i won't write anything about hitsounds.
00:30:235 (6) - add new combo
00:32:720 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - it's so boring, why not make a pattern here? Also 00:35:560 (1) - i understand it's marked as a new combo, but please keep consistency same as previous notes.
00:45:856 (6,7,8) - more fantasy, more style instead of boring stacks.
01:07:513 (2,3) - ^
01:08:933 (5,6) - ^ . . .
00:59:702 (3,4,5,6) - this might confuse middling players, at least space away triplet.
01:13:904 (1,2,3) - make better shape? http://puu.sh/2t63

431,192,73904,6,0,B|376:176|320:200|360:264|312:296|253:272,1,220
256,176,74969,1,0
256,80,75324,2,0,B|197:56|149:88|189:152|133:176|78:160,1,220

01:25:265 (1) - silence spinner end.

[Hard]

00:01:478 - Well i understand you chose vocal road, but it seems so empty here, highly suggest to add here a note with hit finish hitsound.ok
00:02:365 (2,1,2) - double repeats on 2 sliders, feels so boring.its fine.
01:23:667 (7) - add new combo ok
01:08:933 (1) - remove new combook

I like this difficulty, it seems more fun then others whaaaaat? I thought it was my worst Hard ever!

[Insane]
HP Drain -1/-2 ok
00:25:620 (1,2,3,5,6,7,8) - more symmetric, more! http://puu.sh/2t8b ok

272,40,25620,5,2
304,24,25708,1,0
336,24,25797,1,0
368,40,25886,1,0
384,72,25975,1,2
392,104,26063,1,0
416,128,26152,1,0
448,128,26241,1,0
480,112,26330,2,2,B|448:208,3,95

Lesjuh style stream xD
00:36:981 (1) - - Make better shape? http://puu.sh/2t8w it would crash everytime i put this on.

432,192,36981,6,2,B|344:264|256:192|168:120|72:192,1,380

Also add new combo
00:39:821 (6) - new combo no
00:42:661 (7) - ^ no
00:42:661 (7,2,3,4) - looks so odd. Remake pattern? its symmetrical if you look
00:58:282 (1,2,3,4) - don't agree with those jumps, you overdid them it was intended
01:12:484 (1) - so random again. how so?

Like this difficulty. but some jumps are overdid. this was me trying out a new more jumpier style.

Starring this map!

Thank you.

Map has been phoenix downed!

Your message is too short.
Your message is too short.

This song is fucking amazing after I listened to it like, 9 times. Its like some bad ass 90's j-pop anime OP inside of a beethoven song. What is this.

Download: ROSE - SPEED OVER BEETHOVEN (Zelos) [Backfire's Taiko Oni].osu

Map has been phoenix downed again.
I'll be removing Bass-Chan's easy and I will be adding my own.
I'll also either be adding a Taiko Muzu or be removing Backfire's Taiko. (depends on work schedule)

Don't delete it :c I can probably make a muzu.

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