04:14 Touhou: hey I can test
04:14 Touhou: let me finish this section first then I'm ready xd
04:14 theReaL_Gatorix:
04:14 theReaL_Gatorix: great
okay
04:16 Touhou: send
04:16 theReaL_Gatorix: k
04:16 *theReaL_Gatorix is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1154684 Yunomi - Wakusei Rabbit (feat. TORIENA) [Kerasmos]]
04:16 theReaL_Gatorix: only halway complete but
04:16 theReaL_Gatorix: ye
04:16 theReaL_Gatorix: halfway*
04:17 Touhou: why so big circles
04:17 Touhou: lel
04:18 theReaL_Gatorix: forgot to make them bigger lol
04:18 Touhou: K drain and overlaps seem to be fine
04:21 Touhou: hm
04:21 Touhou: main issue seems to be the inconsistent spacing
04:21 theReaL_Gatorix: ah k
04:21 theReaL_Gatorix: I wonder should i use cs4 instead
04:21 Touhou: yes ofc
04:21 Touhou: lol
04:21 theReaL_Gatorix: xd
04:21 theReaL_Gatorix: okay
04:22 Touhou: well you could also give it some more structure
04:22 Touhou: by keeping the rhythm more consistent
04:22 Touhou: and things like visibility
04:22 Touhou:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/679653404:22 Touhou: just put 5 up more so it doesn't overlap with the previous stream
04:22 Touhou: and 6 closer to 5
04:22 Touhou: things like that could improve it
04:22 theReaL_Gatorix: ah k
04:23 Touhou: 00:11:873 (3,4) - generally, try to keep a similar distance between objects
04:23 Touhou: that looks pleasant
04:23 Touhou: and plays well
04:23 Touhou: 00:12:735 (1,2,3,4,5) - same distance plz
04:23 Touhou: kick sliders should only be considered on their staring point
04:24 Touhou: as people don't drag them
04:24 theReaL_Gatorix: k
04:24 Touhou: so instead of adjusting the distance between "slider tail -> slider head"
04:24 Touhou: only do "slider head -> slider head"
04:24 theReaL_Gatorix: ohh
04:24 Touhou: 00:15:321 (1,2,3,4) - don't overlap at all
04:24 Touhou: kick sliders (1/4 sliders) don't need overlap
04:25 Touhou: they are played like single circles
04:25 theReaL_Gatorix: okay
04:25 Touhou: 00:16:011 (4,5,6,7,8) - this is fine though
04:25 theReaL_Gatorix: I was worried there cuz I thought it was hard to hit
04:25 Touhou: because streams shouldn't have jumps
04:25 theReaL_Gatorix: wel, time*
04:25 Touhou: it feels awkward as fk
04:26 Touhou: 00:17:045 (3,5) - another too close element
04:26 Touhou: basically, just fix mentioned things and it'll be much better
04:26 theReaL_Gatorix: yeah , missed that detail haha
04:26 Touhou: 00:21:873 (9,10,11) - what is this stack
04:26 theReaL_Gatorix: o
04:26 Touhou: 00:23:942 (3,4,5) -
04:26 Touhou: keep them equal space
04:26 Touhou: the triplets
04:27 Touhou: 00:26:873 (3,4,5) - same
04:27 theReaL_Gatorix: k
04:27 theReaL_Gatorix: One question
04:27 theReaL_Gatorix: on
04:27 theReaL_Gatorix: 00:12:735 (1,2,3,4,5) -
04:27 theReaL_Gatorix: How do i measure out equal space
04:27 Touhou: just do aslider
04:27 Touhou: I mean
04:27 Touhou: spinner
04:27 Touhou: for that part
04:27 Touhou: fits better
04:28 Touhou: but to answer the question
04:28 Touhou: select one of the kick slider
04:28 Touhou: look top right side
04:28 Touhou: prev: next:
04:28 Touhou: that's the distance
04:28 theReaL_Gatorix: Ohh
04:28 theReaL_Gatorix: Didn't know that
04:28 theReaL_Gatorix: thanks!
04:29 Touhou: just reverse the slider
04:29 Touhou: ctrl + g
04:29 theReaL_Gatorix: mmh k
04:29 Touhou: if you need to see the slider's end distance
04:29 Touhou: but like I said, for kick sliders you don't need slider's end
04:29 Touhou: only the head
04:29 Touhou: aka start
04:29 Touhou: the ctrl + g trick is useful for longer sliders
04:30 Touhou: tah
04:30 Touhou: ah, another thing for your sliders
04:30 theReaL_Gatorix: yes
04:30 Touhou: I personally like to work with different sections of intensity
04:31 Touhou: like slow, medium and fast parts of the song
04:31 Touhou: you could probably do that too
04:31 Touhou: intro could be 0.80x slider velocity
04:31 Touhou: regular parts 1.00
04:31 Touhou: kiai 1.20
04:31 Touhou: that would make the map more dynamic
04:31 theReaL_Gatorix: Oh i see
04:31 theReaL_Gatorix: true
04:32 Touhou: 02:26:356 - could be a slow section
04:32 Touhou: 02:37:390 - speeding up, 1.00x
04:32 Touhou: 02:48:425 - kiai 1.20x
04:32 theReaL_Gatorix: Only spent a few days on it so far so I haven't gotten into the specific
04:32 theReaL_Gatorix: So slow part verses
04:32 theReaL_Gatorix: speed up bridge
04:32 theReaL_Gatorix: and then faster on kiai
04:33 theReaL_Gatorix: essentially
04:33 Touhou: idk the musical terms
04:33 Touhou: just listen to the song and apply what makes sense
04:33 Touhou: xd
04:33 theReaL_Gatorix: xD sorry
04:33 theReaL_Gatorix: ya
04:39 theReaL_Gatorix: are the hitsounds okay btw
04:40 Touhou: well
04:40 Touhou: I have high standards for hitsounds
04:40 Touhou: so I didin't even notice them
04:40 Touhou: I guess they're "okay", yes
04:40 theReaL_Gatorix: okay ^_^
04:42 theReaL_Gatorix: anyway thank you so much for testing it and your advice :3 it was a huge help
04:43 Touhou: np
04:43 Touhou: fix and I'll test again