terratropic wrote:

hello, from my mod queue
i wont really dive that much into individual mods, i will focus mostly on addressing the main issues here

• General

  1. surprising lack of long sliders, especially in the quiet sections where it needs them most. could be an style or artistic decision, but i dont know Doesn't feel necessary, especially since quiet section still have regular 1/1 beats which would be weird to map with 4 beats sliders
  2. avoid placing objects that barely touch (this is most prominent in hard diff) as it makes patterns look sloppy and unrefined, you should either overlap or space them apart
  3. i dont understand the SV changes in the intro of insane and extra.. it would make sense if you were mapping a sound effect but there's nothing going on here
     (and even if you think there is, how come these timing points aren't consistent with the rest of the map?) I'm mapping the loud *clap* and *boom* with this. And this is the only part where they seem dominent related to the other intruments so that's why. I might very well be wrong about this though, feel free to suggest an alternative
  4. I'd trim the end of the mp3 and fade out, right before the instruments kick in again, it's just weird to hear them after 2 seconds of silence when you already cleared the map Y'oure the second one to say that so I'll do it (not right now but a bit later). What do you mean by fade out ? the instruments after the end should not be audible ?
  
  
  Hard
• like i said before, i feel a lot needs to be done in terms of object placement, objects like 01:01:996 (4,1) could be spaced much farther apart to avoid misreading idk about this, spacing is regular through the map and the distance seems right with slider velocity and 1/2 timing beat I'll keep that in mind though if someone else points that out
  00:35:558 (2,3,4) - you could nc these to show the repetition in the vocals, and also make it different from the next combo of circles (if you're going to do this repeat for each diff) Interesting idea, I like the concept ad it fits the music. But I'm really not a fan of repeating NC aesthetically speaking. I'll keep that in mind, I might change my mind about it
  01:12:308 (3) - idk what this is mapping to, or why it's not in any other difficultys, but i think you should map the kicks here (which is in 1/3 btw) Yeah it was a mess... Changed it
  like:
  01:23:558 (2,3,4) - again you could nc these ^
  01:40:621 (6,7,8) - i'd move it to blanket the next slider 01:41:371 (3) Done
  

Insane

too close to Extra in terms of structure and star diff (even with cs5 extra is only half a star higher)
and too far from Hard diff, i would suggest you cut down on spacing (like at 01:00:496 (3,4) )and if necessary use 1/4 reverse sliders in place of triples I did replace a few triplets by repeat sliders in some parts that are less intense. I believe the Extra diff is a little bit underrated because I mainly focused on complex rythm and cursor movement instead of big spaced jumps. If I'm right the actual sifficulty gap between Insane and Extra is bigger than the star rating suggests. I hope I'm not wrong about this though
00:58:621 (7) - slider should be same length as 00:57:871 (3) You're right, changed it
01:07:246 (1) - move nc to previous object Seems weird to have a NC on the last note of a stream though
01:11:746 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - don't forget, this should be mapped to 1/3 I know this is 1/3, but each time I map it as 1/3 I get a mod telling me not to map it this way because it's not readable. The issue is that this is the only part of the song like this, so really unexpected for players. So unless someone gives me the solution to make it readable for 4.5ish players I'll leave it as 1/4th stream
01:21:871 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - pattern is different from extra diff, should be 2sliders-4circles-2sliders-4circles Changed it with reverse sliders like in the Extra. It makes it easier to read

Extra

01:00:308 (1) - move this nc to previous object Done

that's all i have for now, good luck!

Y'oure the second one to say that so I'll do it (not right now but a bit later). What do you mean by fade out ? the instruments after the end should not be audible ?

terratropic wrote:

Y'oure the second one to say that so I'll do it (not right now but a bit later). What do you mean by fade out ? the instruments after the end should not be audible ?

it would make more sense if i said 2 seconds of nothing, because it's not really silence at all and i suggested to fade out (gradually lower in volume) this section after cutting the mp3. sorry if i wasnt clear. regarding the cutting and fading out, you can find free online services that do this without lowering the quality of the mp3 but if you're still not sure i'd be ok doing it for you.

i dont know if its just me and possibly the other user that suggested this change, but i find the 'shawwn wasabii' at the end out of place and irritating. :/

RainbowChaos wrote:

Sorry this might be a little late but heres my mod

Normal

1. 00:22:621 (2) Is 1 beat early and add reverse slider at 00:22:246 Done
2. 01:09:871 (1,2,3,4) remove 2 and 4, extend 1 and 3 I don't know, the rhythm would be too simple compared with the intensity of the music
3. 01:51:871 (1) This should be a slider It is the same sound as 01:48:871 (1) - which is pretty much a sharp instrument sound, a circle fits better than a slider imo

Hard

1. 00:32:371 (1) I don't think this should be a slider The instrument sound is two 1/4 beats, with the second one clearly less intense than the first. I think a 1/4 slider fits well enough here
2. 00:34:246 (2,3) Sounds are on the red and white ticks so maybe replace these with 1/2 beat sliders instead I'm mapping the three predominant sounds of the voice here
3. 00:36:121 (1,2,3,4) Try using two sliders here insteadThe four sounds are basically the same so I prefer mapping them as circles
4. 00:37:433 (3) Why is this not a slider when it is the same sound as the two before it? You're right, changed it to a slider
5. 00:38:933 (5,6) Strong sounds are on the white ticks so sliders shouldn't end on these. How you did it at 00:41:933 (5,6,7) is better
6. 00:46:808 (6,7) These should be a slider Changed it
7. 01:00:121 (3) NC here Done
8. 01:06:683 (1,2,3) This doesn't fit the song here. I suggest removing 2 and making 3 into a slider. I did remove 2 but kept 3 as a circle
9. 01:35:746 (2,3,4) Sliders should start on the white tick as they are stronger sounds
10. 01:51:871 (1) This could be a short slider Yeah, but a 1/4 slider with this slider velocity looks kind of ridiculous

Good luck with your map and hope this helps in some way.

AlphaDude95 wrote:

Hello there!

NM from the queue: t/601442&start=0

Extra

00:11:371 (1,2,3,4) - Consider using appropriate distance snapping, maybe polygon circles could work too Changed it to a triangle with constant distance snap with the previous circle
00:14:558 (2,3) - Slider length might confuse the player here as it is similar to the intro Higher SV is introduced by longer spacing and 00:13:621 (4) - already, plus snappy sliders was what I was going for here
00:14:746 (3,4,5) - ^ with distance snapping Right, reduced the spacing to x1.9. Did the same for similar parts after
00:16:996 (5) - Missing clap hitsound Added. Did the same for similar parts after
00:18:496 (6) - This beat would be more fitting for a slider I don't really see why, plus it would make it inconsistent with the rest
00:19:246 (2,3,4) - Use an equilateral triangle I think I fixed it
00:24:496 (6) - A different slider shape could be used to represent difference between this and the previous' slider's sounds I see why, but I tend to limit the use of unique shape sliders through the song for visual consistency
00:27:871 (1) - Blanket 00:27:402 (4)'s tail? - could be used for the whole section if you decide to use it and you'd have to redo the back-forth jumps I don't see a reason to, and I like the backward flow of this part
00:38:371 (3) - Starting combos on downbeats would be better in this case I know, but two combo colors in a triple seems too gross in my eyes
00:32:371 (1) - A sound that stands out, could use a different shape from the others in this section Agreed, I made the angle much sharper, I think it represents the sound better indeed
00:39:121 (6,7,8) - Remake to be equilateral I think I fixed it
00:40:433 (5,6) - Unreadable 1/4 (decrease DS, it could be confusing as the other jumps there are similar in spacing) Reduced it
00:42:683 - There's a beat here that should definitely be mapped since this is the top difficulty Can't really hear it compared with the instrument sounds
00:47:652 (5,6,7) - That seems like an unbalaced DS as well Reduced it a bit, but the snap here is intended because supported by the more intense music I think
00:51:121 (6,7) - The first highlighted note should be more spaced compared to the second one since there's a stronger beat on it Done
01:07:996 (3,4,1) - You changed the spacing all of a sudden Higher spacing between 3 and 4 was unintended, I changed it. I kept the higher spacing between 4 and 1 though
01:29:183 (1,2,1) - I'd use stacking here since the music stops for a little while You're right, changed it
01:54:121 (5) - Use a reverse on this slider? 1 beat slider feels better

Insane

00:20:371 (1,5) - Overlap Fixed
00:20:746 (3,6,7,8,9,10) - These collide, move stream away a bit? I moved the sliders away a bit
00:32:371 (1) - 1/4 slider would fit more imo Agreed, changed it
00:39:121 (6,4) - Overlap's off by a tiny bit Done
00:41:183 (1,2,3,7) - Overlap Fixed
00:42:683 - Again, missed a beat Background noise not really audible
00:44:933 (3,6) - Move the circle a bit away for a clean blanket Done
00:48:121 (5,1) - Overlap? Fixed
00:49:808 (5,6) - There's a triple here I'd rather map only the instrument here, the drum is bearly audible
00:54:496 (8) - A 1/4 slider here (or a 1/4 return slider) Added a 1/4 slider
00:58:902 (8,5) - These collide Fixed
01:11:558 (2) - Place between 01:10:996 (3,4) Done, also moved (4) a bit to put it between
01:16:996 (4,2) - These also collide Fixed
01:18:121 (3) - Use a different shape for the beat? I'like the symmetry of that pattern
01:25:621 (4,4,5) - Overlap Fixed
01:34:996 (5,3) - Another case of collision Fixed
01:35:746 (2,1) - ^ Fixed
01:36:683 (4,2,3) - Overlap's slightly off Ok
01:54:121 (5) - Reverse? A 1 beat slider seems more proper for this

I modded the Extra first, Insane might feel rushed, sorry about that!

Since you asked me to prioritize the higher difficulties I'm not gonna do lower as I suck at modding low It's fine don't worry '

Good luck! Thanks !

C-Yuyuko wrote:

Hello from my mod queue
Burnt Rice ayy

Extra

Generally I see some minor spacing inconsistency mostly affecting aesthetics rather than gameplay.

00:05:371 (1,2,3,4,5) - What I see is that you introduced clock-counter-clock flow before this pattern, so I feel like this one should be counterclockwise flow too. But if you don't want to change the direction of the flow, Ctrl+G on 00:05:746 (3) - instead because it breaks flow Yep, changed the direction of the slider
00:13:621 (4,1) - I suggest overlap 1 with 4's head (I kinda like subtle aesthetic choices). Done
00:21:121 (5,1) - ^ Done
00:56:652 (4) - Tilt slightly and make it end where previous 6 was. Same reason as above. Done
(I can kinda see you were going for a triangle pattern there. Tilt the whole triangle if you wish to apply this part but don't want to destroy the pattern.)
00:57:496 (8,4) - Bad overlap Fixed
01:00:121 (1,2,3,4,1) - Spacing differs between 1-2 and 3-4 while I don't think the music changed intensity that big. I suggest make a star pattern with these notes with 4 being placed at (361,74) for that subtle overlap I hope I fixed it
01:07:996 (3,4,1) - Can see that you used sharp angle (triangle) to indicate 1/2 spacings before this. Yes, this has a slight angle to indicate same thing, but I feel like this should also be sharp angle for consistency Good catch, I changed the position of 4 to sharpen the angle, moved 1 accordingly to keep the proper alignment
01:11:746 (3,4,5) - All NC to tell it's 1/3 rhythm looks better to me Agreed

Insane

Felt a bit undermapped, will point out the places. (Small sliders don't affect difficulty that much, do they?)

00:06:496 (5,2) - Bad overlap Fixed
00:23:371 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why isn't this star pattern? Kinda breaks expectation :/ One circle got moved by mistake, fixed
00:38:746 - There's a distinct drum sound here. Change 4 to a slider ending here instead. You're right, done
00:41:746 - ^ Done
00:44:746 - ^ Done
00:48:683 - Similar reason as above, but make a triple starting from 5 leading to 1 I feel like mapping the stop of the most intense instruments is more important than mapping the background tics
00:50:746 - same as the previous arrows Done
00:53:652 (4) - Change to 1/4 repeat slider maybe? Similar reason as above Done
00:54:496 (8) - 1/2 slider, maybe? there's a dragged out sound here Added a 1/4 slider
00:56:746 - previous arrows Done
00:58:996 - ^ I'm leaving this one as it is to stay consistent with patterns surrounding it
00:59:933 (5,3) - bad overlap? Fixed
01:11:746 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - This part has 1/3 (or 1/6) rhythm, why not map it like Extra? It first was mapped like in the Extra, but mods told me to change it to 1/4 streams for playability sakes as this is the only 1/3 pârt of the song and thus really unexpected
01:25:152 (2) - 1/4 instead of this because there's a drum sound on white tick and no sound on blue You're right, fixed it

Somebody once told me Insane shouldn't be undermapped. I just applied that logic to this diff.

Hard

00:13:996 (4,3) - bad overlap Fixed
00:24:121 (4) - ugly blanket Fixed
00:25:996 (4) - ^ Fixed
01:42:683 - I suggest a triple here Added
01:48:683 - ^ Added

That's all from me. Sorry if my mod sounds inconsistent at times. Good luck Thanks !

Forzaken4K wrote:

Hello from my queue!

Extra

00:44:183 (1,2,3,4) - Try to put the start of 4 on top of 6. I kept 4 were it was for the blanket, but moved 6 on its head
00:53:933 (6,7,8,9) - Uneven spacing. It's done on purpose for this part
00:24:496 (6) - Maybe Ctrl + G here, so it fits the flow and emphasized more the next note. I like the idea, done
01:06:121 (3) - The stream could start here and then you could change the stream into a repeating slider. There aren't really sounds to justify the stream to start earlier

I'm sorry it's such a small mod, just this is COMPLETELY not my style of mapping, and I find the song... well, weird.
Good luck to ya!

• 
  
  general

1. work on your stacks and blankets, please
   
   easy
   
2. this diff feels cramped and very dull, the map just feels like its the same, 1/1 sliders and circles everywhere
3. 00:14:371 (3,3,3) - these are too hard for easy diff, new players wont know how to do these sliders, change to 1/1 sliders
4. 00:33:871 (5,1) - swap nc
5. 00:35:371 (3,4) - no need for the 2nd slider here, maybe change 3 to 4/1 slider like this
6. 00:57:871 (1,2) - don't make overlaps in easy difficulty unless the object you're overlapping has fully faded out, this is unrankable
7. 01:00:121 (4) - same here
8. 01:12:871 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - very dull, try to add a few more objects here
9. 01:21:871 (1,2,3,4) - make this like 00:33:871 (5,1,2,3) -
10. 01:28:996 (3) - 01:34:996 (3) - try to avoid 1/2 sliders in easy unless the bpm is really low
11. 01:30:871 (1,3) - unrankable overlap
12. 01:30:871 (1,3) - stack
13. 01:42:871 (1,4) - unrankable overlap
14. 01:44:371 (4,1) - unrankable overlap
    
    hard
    
15. i dont usually mod hard but there are some very questionable things in here
16. i am not a fan of the kicksliders in this diff, imo you overuse them
17. 00:35:371 (1,2,3,4,1) - uneven spacing wise, only by like .05 ds but still noticable
18. 00:39:683 (1,2,3) - ??????
19. 01:03:402 (4,5) - why is this .1 less ds than surrounding objects?
20. 01:23:933 (4,1) - ugly overlap
21. 01:23:371 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - (1,2 at first and then 1) inverted ds from 00:35:371 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - (1 at first and then 1,2)
22. 01:48:871 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - uneven ds
    
    insane
    
23. the whole diff just feels as hard but with bigger spacing until 00:47:558 (2) - where it suddenly gets more dense for no reason, consider balancing it out
24. 01:05:371 (1,3) - blanket
25. 01:06:121 (3,1,1) - stack
26. 01:11:746 (3,4,5,6,1) - this is 1/3 not 1/4
27. 01:21:871 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - overmapping, especially 01:22:246 (2,3,4,5) -, all repeatsliders would've been fine
28. 01:51:121 (5) - this should be spaced more, like 01:52:621 (6) -

Greedy_Panda wrote:

[*] 01:11:746 (3,4,5,6,1) - this is 1/3 not 1/4 I'm aware of this, I'mkeeping it in the back of my mind ready to change it if necessary to something similar to Extra, but it hurts readability a lot as this is the only 1/3 section of the song

bite you death wrote:

Greedy_Panda wrote:

[*] 01:11:746 (3,4,5,6,1) - this is 1/3 not 1/4 I'm aware of this, I'mkeeping it in the back of my mind ready to change it if necessary to something similar to Extra, but it hurts readability a lot as this is the only 1/3 section of the song

make it a slider or something, this is definitely 1/3 and mapping 1/4 isnt following the music, thus unrankable 99% sure it is atleast

1. there is a video available for that song that is the same length and totally SFW, since you are not using a sb you should definely use the video. the option to download a no-video version is always available for the players who don't care about video, so you should include the video for the ones who likes them. if you agree about using the video i can get if for you.
   
2. i'm not sure, but i doubt that these weird sounds at the end of the mp3 file are actually part of the song (looks like using the audio from the youtube video). they sound weird and doesn't looks like you gonna map them so why not cut it? (i can also cut the mp3 and the video if you agree)
   
3. your current bg is not really interesting, try to use something more appropriate for the song.
   this one is waaaay more fitting to the actual lyrics and it's the artist himself in the bg
   SPOILER

   
   this would work well with that song too:
   
   SPOILER

   
4. please use muted sliderslide custom hitsound. very annoying especially in the 12 sec intro
   
5. 00:12:308 - until 00:24:683 - please... PLEASE map the vocals here were it's most relevant, the song gets very repetitive and the lyrics are all on white and red ticks so it would still be following the instruments accurately.

1. 00:13:246 (2,3,4) - you are making those spacing differences too often so i'm assuming it's intentional. unless you make the spacing difference to be more noticeable it's a really bad idea imo.
   
2. 00:20:371 (1,2,3,4,5) - some of your spacings are a total mess
   
3. 00:33:683 (4) - this can't be intentional
   
4. 00:57:871 (3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3) - i don't agree with the patterns used in this part. while the 1st and 2nd combos are mapping the same sounds, you didn't really used the same patterns (unlike all the other diff's). instead you decided to make the 2nd and 3rd combo to have identical patterns and shape, it wouldn't be a big deal if the 3rd combo actually supported the pattern, but it doesn't, there is no sound at 00:59:558 - so it's basically overmapping.