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23:15 Touhou: 05:28:987 (1) -
23:15 Touhou: I feel like this part onwards
23:15 Touhou: is a bit too intense
23:15 Touhou: maybe reduce spacing ?
23:16 Touhou: try to make the stream follow the vocals?
23:16 Touhou: 05:28:987 (1) - kaaaaa
23:16 Touhou: 05:29:415 (3) - naaaaaa
23:16 Touhou: 05:29:844 (9) - eeeeeen
23:16 Touhou: make the stream change shape during those long vocal parts
23:16 Touhou: or something
23:16 Touhou: that reflects the music a lot better
23:17 Touhou: 05:34:844 (2) - this sound needs clap mate
23:17 Touhou: it's the snare
23:17 Gus: alright ill make a note and play around with that
23:17 Touhou: clap = stick sound in the song
23:17 Touhou: 05:33:558 (1) - finish, not clap
23:17 Touhou: 05:33:702 (2) - clap
23:17 Touhou: 05:33:986 (5) - clap
23:17 Touhou: sometimes clap is on red ticks instead of white
23:17 Touhou: in this section it's the case
23:18 Gus: fixed those
23:18 Gus: thanks
23:18 Touhou: thing is
23:18 Gus: ill update when I fix the stream
23:19 Touhou: fixing hitsounds is like super time cunsoming
23:19 Touhou: I usually do finishes first
23:19 Touhou: then claps
23:19 Touhou: then whistles
23:19 Touhou: so I need to listen to it three times
23:19 Touhou: 00:43:211 (6) - claps
23:20 Gus: for just (6)?
23:20 Gus: or should all the whistles be claps
23:20 Touhou: use 0% effect volume
23:20 Touhou: try to find the same sound
23:20 Touhou: if you find it
23:20 Touhou: use clap
23:21 Touhou:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zde7bb1vBKA23:21 Touhou: watch this
23:21 Touhou: it's a different song
23:21 Touhou: but you can get the idea for what sounds to look for
23:21 Touhou: I will give you " cheat sheet " in a second
23:23 Gus: oh I see
23:23 Gus: what sound exactly should the whistle follow here though?
23:24 Gus: I see the finish and the clap
23:26 Touhou: finished
23:27 Touhou:
http://puu.sh/wEStS/ba3bc9887c.jpg23:27 Touhou: paint ftw
23:28 Touhou: for the yellow writing I made a mistake it's like this:
23:28 Touhou: sampleset: AUTOOOOO not normal
23:28 Touhou: addition: DRUM
23:28 Touhou: enjoy hitsounds like mine
23:29 Touhou: if you use this technique
23:31 Touhou: fix the entire song with proper hitsounding
23:31 Touhou: after you've done that, I'll get in contact with BN and maakkeli xd
23:32 Touhou: 01:27:069 (6) - those are all claps btw
23:32 Touhou: 01:27:354 (8) - etc
23:32 Touhou: all red ticks here
23:33 Gus: holy
23:33 Gus: thank you dude
23:34 Touhou: np
23:34 Gus: this cheat sheet is great
23:34 Touhou: hitsounding with touhou
23:34 Touhou: lul
23:35 Gus: how wrong is my current hitsounding
23:35 Touhou: ehhhh
23:35 Touhou: it was good enough to let me play it properly
23:35 Touhou: but not good enough for ranking
23:35 Touhou: do a backup
23:35 Touhou: then "rehitsound"
23:36 Touhou: save a copy of your current version somewhere
23:36 Touhou: or just rename diff to "old hitsounds"
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23:36 Touhou: btw every drum set is SLIGHTLY different
23:37 Touhou: the clap (snare) is the base of everything, it's mostly inbetween the legs
23:37 Touhou: the toms are over it (drum - clap and drum - finish )
23:37 Touhou: the whistle is super close to the snare (clap)
23:37 Touhou: and the finishes are randomly inbetween or somewhere further away
23:38 Touhou: there are quite a few different versions of finishes, some are "crash" cymbals and others are "splash" cymbals
23:38 Touhou: but you should not worry about that
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00:03 Touhou: ok let me try
00:03 Touhou: to mod
00:03 *Touhou is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1152956 Imperial Circus Dead Decadence - Gekiai no Yobigoe ga Dekiai no Kyougoe wo Kurau [Hakai]]
00:04 Touhou: check the first combo
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00:04 Touhou: that's the proper rhythm of the guitars
00:04 Touhou: every circle I placed here should have emphasis
00:04 Touhou: (the circles only represent the basic rhythm, not the drum filling stuff)
00:04 Touhou: what you should do
00:05 Touhou: is set emphasis to this by spacing and angles
00:05 Touhou: parts that are intense need more emphasis
00:05 Touhou: so basically, I would reduce the overall spacing in this section and ONLY have jumps during the parts where the melody / guitar really stands out
00:06 Touhou: that way you get contrast and depth
00:06 Gus: yeah alright
00:07 Gus: I had something like that earlier but
00:07 Gus: it didnt end up playing too well
00:08 Touhou: 00:02:354 (1) - this part here
00:09 Touhou: it sounds like a big DOOOOOH
00:09 Touhou: extended sound, use slider
00:09 Touhou: 00:02:640 (3) - slider end is too loud, no slider here
00:09 Touhou: make it like this
00:10 Touhou:
http://puu.sh/wEU9V/de70299425.jpg00:10 Touhou: since this would be too boring
00:10 Touhou: 00:03:211 - replace the last slider by 2 circles
00:10 Touhou: that way you get more impact on the next slider
00:10 Touhou: and challenge the player a bit more
00:11 Touhou: since it's a held sound though, I would stack those circles
00:11 Gus: alright, youll be posting this on forum too right?
00:11 Touhou: so basically this
http://puu.sh/wEUcS/235d60a1c3.jpg00:11 Gus: bc im slow at modding IRC
00:11 Touhou: but with stacked 5 and 6
removed some stuff
00:12 Touhou: Instead of focusing on "fix this pattern"
00:12 Touhou: I try to give you a general idea on what you should work on
00:12 Touhou: 1.) focus on the vocals -> melody -> instruments
00:12 Touhou: 2.) set emphasis
00:12 Touhou: 3.) use proper object for the rhythm
00:13 Touhou: 01:42:354 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) -
00:13 Touhou: about this part
00:13 Touhou: follow the vocals with the streams
00:13 Touhou: every syllable should be represented in a way in your streams
00:13 Touhou: the easiest way would be changing shapes / direction of aim
00:13 Touhou: PLEASE don't do stream jumps
00:14 Touhou: 01:46:926 (1,2,3) - about this
00:14 Touhou: I would reduce the sliders, ending on red
00:14 Touhou: and adding a circle
00:15 Gus: ooh you're right
00:15 Touhou:
http://puu.sh/wEUoM/b096f5052a.jpg00:15 Touhou: something like this
00:15 Touhou: the triplet has vocals too
00:15 Touhou: but using too many sliders in a row is boring
00:15 Touhou: and the drums offer a triplet
00:15 Gus: yeah I dig it
00:15 Touhou: so map that instead
00:15 Gus: I will
00:16 Touhou: 01:47:283 - add circle here btw
00:16 Touhou: didn't hear it before
00:16 Touhou: 01:47:711 - don't add a circle here
00:16 Touhou: it would lose the vocal emphasis if you do
00:17 Touhou: the drum has a sound here, yes, but it's too confusing and not matching the vocals
00:17 Gus: on blue ticks?
00:17 Touhou: yeah
00:17 Touhou: slow it down to 25 % speed
00:17 Touhou: and use 0% effect volume
00:17 Touhou: to spot the triplets properly
00:18 Touhou: same applies for this part aswell 01:48:069 (1) -
00:18 Touhou: shorten some sliders, and replace some by circles maybe
00:18 Touhou: 01:49:211 (1) - replace by circles entirely
00:18 Touhou: make them emphasis the vocals though
00:18 Touhou: the vocals are fading out, so the spacing should be decreased
00:19 Touhou: or atleast similar spacing
00:19 Gus: I see yeah
00:19 Touhou: 01:58:354 (1,2,3) - I would use a slider here
00:19 Touhou: very long sound
00:19 Touhou: so a 1/1 slider
00:19 Touhou: I know there is a snare inbetween the slider
00:20 Touhou: but the guitar is pretty dominant
00:20 Touhou: 02:11:640 (2,3,4) - doesn't really fit
00:20 Touhou: instead focus on the background melody and do 2 sliders
00:21 Touhou: basically this
00:21 Touhou:
http://puu.sh/wEUER/ec73e7b85f.jpg00:21 Gus: 02:11:640 (2) - starting here?
00:21 Touhou: starting on white tick
00:22 Touhou: ORRRRR you make it one large slider ending on the red tick
00:22 Touhou: before the new combo
00:22 Touhou: I prefer the larger slider actually
00:22 Touhou: it covers the entire sound of the guitar
00:23 Touhou:
http://puu.sh/wEUJi/6bd67efa34.jpg00:23 Gus: hm ill play around
00:23 Touhou: works best
00:23 Touhou: remember, it's about setting emphasis
00:23 Touhou: if you use circles and jumps everywhere
00:23 Touhou: the map becomes boring
00:24 Gus: yeah of course
00:24 Gus: finally a good mod LOl
00:24 Touhou: really?
00:24 Touhou: be honest
00:24 Gus: yes I'm going to change quite a bit
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