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Diao ye zong feat. Meramipop - The Anonymous

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Winnie
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Winnie
Only my portion is in here so be careful when updating since I deleted the rest of the stuff after mine
osu file format v14

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[Metadata]
Title:The Anonymous
TitleUnicode:ジ・アノニマス
Artist:Meramipop
ArtistUnicode:めらみぽっぷ
Creator:Asaiga
Version:Neraidaphobia
Source:東方紅魔郷 ～ Embodiment of Scarlet Devil.
Tags:Karen Kocari Kin 凋叶棕 diao ye zong withered leaf merami 求 motome Rumia ルーミア Touhou
BeatmapID:1283136
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Asaiga wrote:

@Kin Kocari Karen
I have organized the mod for you. you can just quote directly from here and apply mod. If mod piles up again I will do this method, otherwise no :'x

Kocari

  • xChorse
  1. 00:31:128 - ignoring these hi-hats doesn't sound right imo. maybe map these 00:31:025 (5) - with a 1/4 slider? it would emphasize the piano sounds while still following the hi-hats You may be right but I was only mapping to pianos since they were the most important instrument. With the triplets and double patterns already implemented adding the hi-hats would just be too much

    Itasha
  2. 00:05:032 (3,4,1) - not a perfuct trianglu :< Fixu
  3. 00:07:908 (5,6,7) - while playing this I was like.. I didn't know If I was hitting the circles properly because the piano sound of 00:08:011 - plays fine tho, It's just a little bit weird Simplified and made with new NC so it's easier to differentiate between them
  4. 00:11:813 (1,3) - stack properly Probably just an editor thing always happens like this
  5. 00:14:381 (2,3,4,5) - spacing between 00:14:586 (4,5) - took me for surprise, I recommend smth like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8950267 Changed to some different patterns
  6. 00:15:100 (7,8) - maybe not stack these with 00:15:306 (1) - because they have different sounds, unlike 00:14:381 (2,3,4,5) - where 00:14:689 (5) - feels like it's part of 00:14:381 (2,3,4) - , 00:15:306 (1) - doesn't feel part of 00:15:100 (7,8) - so introducing the high spacing here would be better I would agree but it just doesn't feel important for me to emphasize. They roll off of one another and just adding extra spacing because of a single sound that's not important doesn't seem reasonable to me atm. I'll keep it for now
  7. 00:21:881 (1) - should be like 00:15:306 (1,2) - that extended slider was so misleading Yeah you're right added more
  8. 00:23:730 (6,7) - imo this should be mapped like 00:13:251 (1,2,3) - and maybe a kickslider at 00:23:833 (7) - I don't think that the sound at 00:23:936 - worths making it clickable and or instead add a circle at 00:24:039 - thet rhythm would fit better They aren't the same and I implemented the triplets into the more upbeat portion after the slow parts, wanted to make some dynamic changes to represent musical change.
  9. 00:26:093 (9) - ctrl+g , 00:25:271 (5,6,7) - this should be ctrl+h'd too
  10. 00:27:223 (4,5) - spacing a bit too much, yet you introduced similar spacing before, this is too much imo That should be easy. Time Distance Equality was pretty common during this portion tbh I think even these were harder than that 00:25:477 (7,8,9) - I'll keep them for now
  11. 00:27:737 (7,8) - I recommend something like I suggested on 00:14:381 (2,3,4,5) - because same reason owo Did something similiar


Thanks for mod
Karen
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Karen

Karen

  • xChorse
  1. just an idea but this 03:28:456 (2,3,1) - could be mapped with 1/8 sliders to emphasize the roll, but that might not play well so again, it's your choice :P the roll starts here but the drums are getting stronger so

    Loreley
  2. 02:55:785 (8) - I recommend nc here 1) for the aesthetic reason 2) for consistence with other space streams like 01:02:360 (1) - 00:49:313 (1) - 03:28:662 (1) - etc
  3. 03:41:710 (6) - It is piano rather silent, however has bigger spacing than this louder 03:42:223 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - logic of this map: stronger sounds=bigger spacing i think i use jumps to emphasize strong beats like 03:42:429 (3,1) -

    Itasha
  4. 02:17:874 (4,5) - too much spacing comparing to other parts like this
  5. 02:22:703 (2,3,4) - spacing should decrease as piano sound does, should rework 02:21:676 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - according to that not following pianos here i think it's fine
  6. 02:52:908 (1,2) - 02:52:908 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - weird rhythm tbh, I suggest smth like http://prntscr.com/gdo67z
  7. 03:19:518 (2,3,4) - kinda too much spacing, feels like the same as 03:12:943 (2,3,4,1,2) - but 03:19:518 (2,3,4) - is certainly more calm there's no rule like you must use long sliders to follow vocals and it would be too boring if i do that, also there's sound on the blue ticks 02:53:422 -
  8. 03:39:758 (1,2,3,4) - imo this and 03:41:093 (3,4,5) - should have MORE spacing, feels too weak compared to 03:37:292 (1,2,3,4) - and I don't think that sounds at 03:37:292 (1,2,3,4) - are more intense than the other mentioned increased the first one, the second one is pretty big already


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Kin
2,618 posts
Joined August 2010
Kin

Kin

  • Loreley
  1. 00:36:162 (6,7) - its works better than 00:49:313 (1,2,3) - as sounds are "non-uniform" for a stream here that's basically the same thing, I just also map the hit hat here 00:49:004 (1,2,3) - athat's also why it's lower spaced
  2. 01:11:299 (1) - it is felt better when ctrlg+g. Also there is no repeating sound to use such flow imo. back & forth does works better with the vocal pitch
  3. 01:14:278 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - imo but sounds is 4|2|2 then 01:14:689 (5) - i think nc here because new piano part I get your point, but using NC here 01:14:895 (1) - is also justified with the clear difference of piano pitch
  4. 01:19:004 (1) - oh lol sliderpoints good job on finding this one :^)

    Itasha
  5. 00:47:052 (5,6) - I like this but the spacing seems a bit too much tho reduced to 3.2
  6. 00:49:210 (3,1) - I don't like the transition between these, really uncomfortable, maybe move 00:49:313 (1,2,3,1) - to like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8950345 I prefer to have the angle change on the snare (here 00:49:313 (1) - ) instead of 1/4 earlier
  7. 01:01:128 (3) - I see why you used such slidershape but looks a little weird I suggest this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8950364 I aldo want the perfect stack
  8. 01:01:539 (5,8) - stack properly
  9. 01:15:306 (2) - I suggest placing it like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8950408 current placement looks a bit weird and plays awkward not fixed, but spacing changed
  10. 01:28:559 (3,4) - stack em properly both stack fixed

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thanks for mod & thanks asaiga for making our life easier \o

btw, wth is wrong with this sv bugged, look in the notepad lol

edit: dem u karen :(

gonna send you my change after you update Karen's part
CucumberCuc
1,316 posts
Joined January 2016
CucumberCuc
Hello

[Neraidaphobia]
00:08:011 I think that you can put a circle under the loud sound that can be suitable
00:30:306 (2,3,4) slightly different range
01:05:237 (5,1) Stack it? or was trying to do something like this 01:17:771 (2,1)
01:43:456 (3) move slightly right for the same distance
01:50:032 (3,4,5,6) slightly different range
01:45:511 (1,5) hm... here you not stack but on 01:58:662 (1,5) you have identical sounds
01:53:319 (7) maybe it would be better to work if the bend is not left, and on right?
02:10:991 (3,4) do distance like previous 1,2?
02:13:251 (6,7) i think this objects can do like next 02:14:895 (5,6)
02:20:032 (1,2) do slightly far for the same distance next objects 3,4
02:39:244 maybe put circle and place on x:76 y:140?
02:39:347 I think that can be a little change here the location of the circle and move it to the x:56 y:16, and then, with almost quiet sounds 02:39:552 - 02:39:655, you can put the circles and stack them with the slider
02:49:621 (1,2) it is strange that here you made a stack, and then just overlap
03:06:881 (1) start slider move down for better flow
03:49:210 (3) The average square slider move left-up to make it look even better (x:284 y:248)
03:56:402 (1,2,3,4,5) slightly different range
LeQuack
516 posts
Joined September 2015
LeQuack
M4M :D

Neraidaphobia
Kocari
  1. 00:04:415 (2,3,4) - I think the 4 should be spaced more for more emphasis on the sound plus the fact that right now the spacing between all these notes looks similar but the gaps between therm are different
  2. 00:11:607 (3,1,2) - I think each note here is different enough that you shouldn't have the same spacing between each of these notes, i would suggest at least emphasizing the (1)
  3. 00:13:867 (2,3) - Confusing to reda and sets up players so they might also misread 00:18:388 (1,2) - why not change it to something like this so players see that it might be played the wy it is , and ill then see the difference between it and 00:18:388 (1,2) -
    suggestion
  4. 00:27:018 (2,3) - Same as previously mentioned for consistency
  5. 00:36:367 (7,1) - Also here (00:35:956 (5,6,7,1) - this pattern is the perfect example of why i believe you should make the change
  6. 00:25:271 (5,6,1) - if you move this pattern to x:297 y:57 you will make a nice pattern with 00:24:141 (1,2) - as the slider matches with it, i also think the triple then becomes easier to read
  7. 00:28:251 (9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I would re-consider this pattern as right now the only way you are emphasizing the strong sounds is through SV however i feel like the start of the strong sounds are missed because there is little to no movement to each slider (even to (6) there is not much movement due to slider leniency) at the very least don't have 00:28:251 (9,10,1) - stacked so there is some movement to the (1)

Kin
  1. 00:45:819 (5,6,1,2) - This pattern is really messy currently at the very least i suggest forgetting about the overlap between (5) and (2) and placing the slider somewhere clearly visible to the player
  2. 00:55:169 (5,6,7) - for a cleaner looking pattern these should be visually spaced the same as 00:54:552 (3,4,5) -
  3. 01:02:360 (1,2,3,4,1) - I don't think this part is intense enough compared to the rest of this section to warrant such extreme spacing
  4. 01:15:306 (2,3,4,5,1) - Visual spacing should be the same here as well
  5. 01:19:004 (1) - This could use at least half of the anchor points it has currently and look the same
  6. 01:27:840 (1,2,3,4) - I don't see a reason for a jump to the (4) so i think it should just be spaced the same
Asaiga
  1. 01:34:723 (4,5,6) - I would make both sliders 1 tick shorter and stack a note on 01:35:135 (5,6) - at 01:35:032 - this way you capture the drum pattern at 01:35:032 - and you have a slider ending on the sound at 01:35:443 - rather than on a tick that has no sound at all
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  2. 04:48:799 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Why not use polygon tool to make a circle here
  3. 04:51:470 (2) - I would reduce by 1 tick and then stack a note on 04:51:984 (4) -
  4. 05:00:169 (4) - I would have as two notes and remove the clap hitsound as it makes it sound off the beat
  5. 05:01:128 (1,2,1,2,1,1) - I think all the sliders should build up in velcoity rather than slow
Karen
  1. 02:29:073 (3) - Maybe add a repeat so the slider doesn't end so abruptly and it can follow the dropoff of the guitar
  2. 02:32:360 (4,5) - I think the spacing is a bit too extreme for such quiet section and considering the previous ways you've handled 1/4 notes (Plus it looks identical to 02:38:936 (4,5) - which is played differently)
  3. 02:49:313 (5,6,7) - I don't think spaced stream is suitable here as the intensity is decreasing from 02:48:799 (2,3,4) - not increasing
  4. 02:52:600 (8) - this should be like 02:52:292 (6,7) - so you have the sound at 02:52:703 - clickable
  5. 02:55:785 (1,2,3,4,1) - Again i believe spacing is way too extreme, i think what would work well here is an accelerating stream as the sound gets more intense throughout the stream but isn't so much at the very start
  6. 02:56:813 (4,5) - I wouldn't stack as reading can be confusing coming off of 02:56:504 (2,3) - which looks the exact same but is played different and also considering in previous sections you had patterns like 02:51:676 (2,3,4,5) - which player would assume you have done here also
  7. 03:15:100 (1) - There's no sound here and playing it is awkward for players (would be pttern of 6 notes if you count 03:14:484 (2) - ) i would just delete the note or at the very least hitsound it so there is some feedback for players
  8. 03:23:422 (5,6) - Don't think an extreme jump like this is necessary as there is really nothing in the music that supports it, a change in direction but consistent spacing would work well imo
  9. 03:40:580 (1) - I would move this note to somewhere around x:239 y:50 as the stack might be confusing and the sound at 03:40:785 (2) - is intense enough that i think it deserves movement towards it

Some pretty cool concepts and mapping in here, GL :)
Asaiga
848 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Asaiga
From CucumberCuc
Kocari
00:08:011 I think that you can put a circle under the loud sound that can be suitable
00:30:306 (2,3,4) slightly different range

Kin
01:05:237 (5,1) Stack it? or was trying to do something like this 01:17:771 (2,1)

Karen
02:10:991 (3,4) do distance like previous 1,2?
02:13:251 (6,7) i think this objects can do like next 02:14:895 (5,6)
02:20:032 (1,2) do slightly far for the same distance next objects 3,4
02:39:244 maybe put circle and place on x:76 y:140?
02:39:347 I think that can be a little change here the location of the circle and move it to the x:56 y:16, and then, with almost quiet sounds 02:39:552 - 02:39:655, you can put the circles and stack them with the slider
02:49:621 (1,2) it is strange that here you made a stack, and then just overlap
03:06:881 (1) start slider move down for better flow

CucumberCuc wrote:

Hello
01:43:456 (3) move slightly right for the same distance that's way too nazi and not necessary xd
01:50:032 (3,4,5,6) slightly different range 1 or 2 pixels don't matter
01:45:511 (1,5) hm... here you not stack but on 01:58:662 (1,5) you have identical sounds because of the patterns, I want it to feel nicely when playing
01:53:319 (7) maybe it would be better to work if the bend is not left, and on right? yea, good catch
03:49:210 (3) The average square slider move left-up to make it look even better (x:284 y:248) maybe but it doesn't flow well
03:56:402 (1,2,3,4,5) slightly different range don't have to be perfect all the time

LeQuack wrote:

M4M :D
Asaiga
  1. 01:34:723 (4,5,6) - I would make both sliders 1 tick shorter and stack a note on 01:35:135 (5,6) - at 01:35:032 - this way you capture the drum pattern at 01:35:032 - and you have a slider ending on the sound at 01:35:443 - rather than on a tick that has no sound at all ye great, fixed
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  2. 04:48:799 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Why not use polygon tool to make a circle here I don't like using wider angles here
  3. 04:51:470 (2) - I would reduce by 1 tick and then stack a note on 04:51:984 (4) - I'm following guitar
  4. 05:00:169 (4) - I would have as two notes and remove the clap hitsound as it makes it sound off the beat ooops forgot about removing that clap. But I can't made this 2 notes because it would cause confusion in reading
  5. 05:01:128 (1,2,1,2,1,1) - I think all the sliders should build up in velcoity rather than slow the bpm is decreasing hence I use slower velocity. Also the synthesizer increases its pitch gradually but it sounds straining with the bpm going down so I thought it's better to keep sv low. i dont really know how to explain well xd
thank you
Kaitjuh
856 posts
Joined December 2012
Kaitjuh
hallo, small NM from queue o/

Kocari

  1. 00:07:908 (1) - Maybe turn this into a 1/4 slider to map the sound on 00:08:011 -

Karen

  1. 02:32:669 (5) - the sudden spacing increase seems a bit sudden here, despite the drum sound. Maybe reduce the spacing a bit here.
  2. 02:49:313 (5,6,7,1) - seems quite an intense pattern for this section still. I also dont hear anything on 02:49:518 (7) - , so consider just mapping double taps or a 1/4 slider instead?
  3. 02:59:484 - seems a bit too significant to be a passive beat. Maybe a 1/4 slider on 02:59:484 - might be better to cover the necessary sounds.

Asaiga

  1. 03:47:155 (1) - imo this kinda kills momentum a bit, which you probably dont want to do in the kiai. I would suggest mapping the beat on 03:47:360 - because of this.
  2. 04:37:086 (3) - maybe Ctrl+G this, because i think the flow/distance into 04:37:292 (1) - might be a little too linear/low spaced.
Nice map! good luck~
Winnie
1,343 posts
Joined November 2013
Winnie
Changed all only my portion
osu file format v14

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Karen
2,860 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen

LeQuack wrote:

Karen
  1. 02:29:073 (3) - Maybe add a repeat so the slider doesn't end so abruptly and it can follow the dropoff of the guitar only follow guitar sounds here
  2. 02:32:360 (4,5) - I think the spacing is a bit too extreme for such quiet section and considering the previous ways you've handled 1/4 notes (Plus it looks identical to 02:38:936 (4,5) - which is played differently)
  3. 02:49:313 (5,6,7) - I don't think spaced stream is suitable here as the intensity is decreasing from 02:48:799 (2,3,4) - not increasing
  4. 02:52:600 (8) - this should be like 02:52:292 (6,7) - so you have the sound at 02:52:703 - clickable i don't need that to be clickable, only 02:52:395 - this track followed here
  5. 02:55:785 (1,2,3,4,1) - Again i believe spacing is way too extreme, i think what would work well here is an accelerating stream as the sound gets more intense throughout the stream but isn't so much at the very start this one is ok, it's an alternative map after all and music is getting stronger
  6. 02:56:813 (4,5) - I wouldn't stack as reading can be confusing coming off of 02:56:504 (2,3) - which looks the exact same but is played different and also considering in previous sections you had patterns like 02:51:676 (2,3,4,5) - which player would assume you have done here also they are different here so the rhythm is different and it's not hard to read imo
  7. 03:15:100 (1) - There's no sound here and playing it is awkward for players (would be pttern of 6 notes if you count 03:14:484 (2) - ) i would just delete the note or at the very least hitsound it so there is some feedback for players
  8. 03:23:422 (5,6) - Don't think an extreme jump like this is necessary as there is really nothing in the music that supports it, a change in direction but consistent spacing would work well imo this sounds like a 2+2 pattern so
  9. 03:40:580 (1) - I would move this note to somewhere around x:239 y:50 as the stack might be confusing and the sound at 03:40:785 (2) - is intense enough that i think it deserves movement towards it
stacks can emphasize downbeats

Asaiga wrote:

From CucumberCuc
Karen
02:10:991 (3,4) do distance like previous 1,2?
02:13:251 (6,7) i think this objects can do like next 02:14:895 (5,6) are they different? i don't get it
02:20:032 (1,2) do slightly far for the same distance next objects 3,4
02:39:244 maybe put circle and place on x:76 y:140? already a circle 02:38:833 (3) - here so i don't want to add more
02:39:347 I think that can be a little change here the location of the circle and move it to the x:56 y:16, and then, with almost quiet sounds 02:39:552 - 02:39:655, you can put the circles and stack them with the slider no 02:39:347 (5,1) - the spacing would be confusing
02:49:621 (1,2) it is strange that here you made a stack, and then just overlap
03:06:881 (1) start slider move down for better flow flow is good now[/notice]

Kaitjuh wrote:

Karen

  1. 02:32:669 (5) - the sudden spacing increase seems a bit sudden here, despite the drum sound. Maybe reduce the spacing a bit here.
  2. 02:49:313 (5,6,7,1) - seems quite an intense pattern for this section still. I also dont hear anything on 02:49:518 (7) - , so consider just mapping double taps or a 1/4 slider instead?
  3. 02:59:484 - seems a bit too significant to be a passive beat. Maybe a 1/4 slider on 02:59:484 - might be better to cover the necessary sounds. it's not a downbeat so i don't think it needs to be clickable

fixed all non commended stuff

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PandaHero
662 posts
Joined November 2011
PandaHero
NM requested in-game

[Kocari]
00:05:032 (3) - add whistle?
00:11:607 (3) - again
00:19:518 (5) - I would like to ctrl+g this for nice movement
00:22:497 (3) - move it left for avoiding overlap with 1 slider? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9008708
00:24:963 (4) - maybe make it less curve?
00:28:765 (2,3,4) - default claps sounds so meh here, try to put custom claps here

[Kin]
00:46:333 (2) - try to avoid this overlap by moving slider right? It will more pleasant to play, also I think that sound on 2 deserves more spacing than you have now https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9008856
00:47:463 (7,8,1,2,3) - patterns like these plays really strange, but I dunno how can you make it better. I guess making spacing between these objects 00:47:874 (2,3) - consistent through whole part will help
01:15:922 (1) - this part is so unhitsounded in compare with your previous part, will be cool if you add some drum whistles on the piano sounds that you mapped by these sliders+note - 01:17:771 (2,3,1,2)

[Asaiga]
02:02:977 (6,1) - swap ncs maybe?
04:12:018 (2,3,4,5) - will be cool if you make this pattern more symmetrical, for example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9009463
04:14:689 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - what about to continue mapping vocal here, since it's your main instrument in kiai?
04:29:073 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I guess you can gradualy increase spacing here, like you did before in the similar place - 04:02:977 (7,8,1,2,3,4)

[Karen]
02:22:086 (3,4,5,6) - it sounds pretty similar to other piano sounds here, try to make two 1/4 sliders instead of notes?
02:29:381 - what about to make one more slider for this guitar sound? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9009346
02:32:669 (5) - why you use soooo big spacing here? :o This place looks similar to 02:38:936 (4,5), but distance on the timeline between 4 and 5 in first case are smaller than in second case, so people can just missread it

That's all from me, take my star~
Kin
2,618 posts
Joined August 2010
Kin

LeQuack wrote:

Kin
  1. 00:45:819 (5,6,1,2) - This pattern is really messy currently at the very least i suggest forgetting about the overlap between (5) and (2) and placing the slider somewhere clearly visible to the player sligh change to make it better
  2. 00:55:169 (5,6,7) - for a cleaner looking pattern these should be visually spaced the same as 00:54:552 (3,4,5) - placing out of editor screen isn't really my type
  3. 01:02:360 (1,2,3,4,1) - I don't think this part is intense enough compared to the rest of this section to warrant such extreme spacing the flow used isn't too hard. Also I really like how it feels with the guitare & drum
  4. 01:15:306 (2,3,4,5,1) - Visual spacing should be the same here as well I really prefer to use a different spacing for the cymbal when it's linear/circular flow
  5. 01:19:004 (1) - This could use at least half of the anchor points it has currently and look the same good job on finding my special useless slider!
  6. 01:27:840 (1,2,3,4) - I don't see a reason for a jump to the (4) so i think it should just be spaced the same the last snare is actually stronger

Asaiga wrote:

Kin
01:05:237 (5,1) Stack it? or was trying to do something like this 01:17:771 (2,1)
stacking will only be weird with the stacking leniency putting note on the top left. That's why I made custom stack

PandaHero wrote:

[Kin]
00:46:333 (2) - try to avoid this overlap by moving slider right? It will more pleasant to play, also I think that sound on 2 deserves more spacing than you have now https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9008856 changed with prev mod
00:47:463 (7,8,1,2,3) - patterns like these plays really strange, but I dunno how can you make it better. I guess making spacing between these objects 00:47:874 (2,3) - consistent through whole part will help I really like this gimmick, and I really want to have the last one spaced
01:15:922 (1) - this part is so unhitsounded in compare with your previous part, will be cool if you add some drum whistles on the piano sounds that you mapped by these sliders+note - 01:17:771 (2,3,1,2) gonna change some hitsound!
thanks for mod everyone!

update: http://puu.sh/xqN6P/85ff8924b4.osu
Asaiga
848 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Asaiga

Kaitjuh wrote:

hallo, small NM from queue o/

Asaiga

  1. 03:47:155 (1) - imo this kinda kills momentum a bit, which you probably dont want to do in the kiai. I would suggest mapping the beat on 03:47:360 - because of this. i'm following vocal. I agree it's a bit undermapped for the clap but it flows well and I don't want to ruin the structure here
  2. 04:37:086 (3) - maybe Ctrl+G this, because i think the flow/distance into 04:37:292 (1) - might be a little too linear/low spaced. netjes
Nice map! good luck~ thankee

PandaHero wrote:

[Asaiga]
02:02:977 (6,1) - swap ncs maybe? no because the acceleration starts with this note 02:03:182 (1) - so this one needs NC
04:12:018 (2,3,4,5) - will be cool if you make this pattern more symmetrical, for example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9009463 very nice pattern. changed but fixed a bit
04:14:689 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - what about to continue mapping vocal here, since it's your main instrument in kiai? drum sounds quite prominent and I need stream to increase difficulty and variation
04:29:073 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I guess you can gradualy increase spacing here, like you did before in the similar place - 04:02:977 (7,8,1,2,3,4) would be too hard

That's all from me, take my star~ <3
Icekalt
507 posts
Joined December 2014
Icekalt
o/

[Neraidaphobia]

- 00:29:792 (8) - mssing hitsound?
- 00:51:573 (4,6) - that overlap choice is kinda random to me - maybe make it the same as 00:52:395 (7,8) - so it looks like this: https://puu.sh/y5aRM/4037c698e1.png
- 01:19:004 (1) - white anchors wtf :o
- 01:35:237 (7,2) - stack bug
- 02:31:950 (2,3,4,5) - i need to disagree with the rythm choice here cause the music dont give me that much note density
- 03:02:360 (1,2,3,4) - you an do that nicer ~
- 03:18:799 (3,4,5,6,1) - idk if the curve is intentional like (that (3) is sticking out a bit)
- 03:27:326 (4,1) - maybe higher DS here - it would fit pretty much to the intense drum on (1) and you are doing this very often anyway (for example 01:28:970 (4,1) - (there are much more))
- 03:45:511 (1,2,3,4,5) - (suggestion) - a bit symmetry would fit very well here (03:45:511 (1,2,3,4,5) - ) - it would also fit with the next pattern (04:12:018 (2,3,4,5) - )
- 03:49:826 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - (suggestion) - maybe make the stream like 04:02:977 (7,8,1,2,3,4) - just the other way around (somehow like https://puu.sh/y5bFQ/9823ae6b59.jpg )
- 04:12:943 (7,1) - another stacking bug
- 04:29:073 (1,2,3,4,1) - this curve could be visually improved
- 04:42:018 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - when i think about your prevoius stream pattering shouldnt it be structured like this: (im not talking about placemants ^^) :https://puu.sh/y5bTb/1a502b7a6a.jpg - exspecially cause an overall equally spaced stream wouldnt fit with the piano at all ~
- 04:59:484 (1,2,3,4) - that is super unconfortable to play and looks a bit messy~ (i dont got solutions how to map this better tho :/)

Good luck with the Mapset - one of my favorite alt maps!!! ^^

(sorry for non existing formating)
Lasse
Beatmap Nominator
3,596 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse
tick 2 really sucks for the intro since you get ticks on things like 00:02:360 - which is ??
same for parts like 02:11:813 (1) -
would just go with 1 or maybe silence ticks instead of slides (can't do both sadly) in these and similar parts

kocari
00:20:443 (3) - rhythm choice is weird here since you ignore the blue tick emphasis. I think something like https://i.imgur.com/FIoIusw.jpg would be great
00:23:730 (3,4,5) - also simplifies blue tick stuff too much imo
00:28:354 - don't get this at all, 1/2 rhythm would make so much more sense with the song

kin
01:08:011 (3) - what is this even mapping everything is on white tick after it

asaiga
01:38:936 (1,2,3) - this feels so incoherent with itself since the shapes don't feel like they belong together, I think using similar ideas for each slider (like curvature), for example: https://streamable.com/ehawm
for the chorus I think you could make it a bit more interesting by simplifying it a bit less. what I mean:
look at 01:44:176 (2,3) - 01:44:586 (4,5) - both only map a vocal on the sliderhead, fine
but then 01:44:895 (6,7) - has two, so differentiation it by doing something like https://i.imgur.com/TRyGR05.jpg would be great
same for things like 01:46:539 (6,7) - etc.
the normal whistles in chorus seemed a bit weird as they happen so rarely, I don't think that works well tbh, using them more frequently or not using them would probably be better

04:10:169 (1,2) - why not +sv since they stand out a lot? you could even make them 1/8 imo
04:29:073 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ... you never used such harsh stream angles before, don't suddenly put them 5min into the map :/
04:33:182 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - feels so lacking, why not higher sv to reflect the raised vocal intensity better
04:55:169 (4,1) - transition into stream is a bit lol visually, would be nice if slider lead into it like https://i.imgur.com/2rlNGU6.jpg
04:55:991 (5,6) - why such a harsh angle, something like 04:58:148 (4,1) - would be nicer imo
05:00:169 (4) - 2 circles so you can map cymbal wold be neat
05:03:997 - 15% green line



karen
03:14:997 (6) - isn't this like 1/6 earlier or something, sounds late at least
03:28:662 (1,2,3,4) - where's the 1/8 sliderstream :(
[]


sliderticks and the chorus spacing stuff are kinda important to me, feel free to call me back if you addressed those
Karen
2,860 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen

PandaHero wrote:

[Karen]
02:22:086 (3,4,5,6) - it sounds pretty similar to other piano sounds here, try to make two 1/4 sliders instead of notes? the circles are also for emphasizing 02:22:497 (1,2,3,4) - these sliders, too many sliders would be too spammy
02:29:381 - what about to make one more slider for this guitar sound? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9009346 i like the sudden break
02:32:669 (5) - why you use soooo big spacing here? :o This place looks similar to 02:38:936 (4,5), but distance on the timeline between 4 and 5 in first case are smaller than in second case, so people can just missread it

That's all from me, take my star~

IceKalt wrote:

o/

[Neraidaphobia]

- 02:31:950 (2,3,4,5) - i need to disagree with the rythm choice here cause the music dont give me that much note density you're right but the background has some weird sound orz
- 03:02:360 (1,2,3,4) - you an do that nicer ~
- 03:18:799 (3,4,5,6,1) - idk if the curve is intentional like (that (3) is sticking out a bit)
- 03:27:326 (4,1) - maybe higher DS here - it would fit pretty much to the intense drum on (1) and you are doing this very often anyway (for example 01:28:970 (4,1) - (there are much more))

Lasse wrote:

karen
03:14:997 (6) - isn't this like 1/6 earlier or something, sounds late at least how is it mappable if it's 1/6 :thinking: 1/4 is acceptable imo
03:28:662 (1,2,3,4) - where's the 1/8 sliderstream :( other collab parts are all simple patterns so i'd like to avoid those strange stuff

Thanks!

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Asaiga
848 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Asaiga

IceKalt wrote:

o/

[Neraidaphobia]

- 00:29:792 (8) - mssing hitsound? nah
- 01:35:237 (7,2) - stack bug moved
- 03:45:511 (1,2,3,4,5) - (suggestion) - a bit symmetry would fit very well here (03:45:511 (1,2,3,4,5) - ) - it would also fit with the next pattern (04:12:018 (2,3,4,5) - ) it's a bit symmetrical but not really vertical. i admit the pattern is a bit off but adjusting might mess up the movement i intended
- 03:49:826 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - (suggestion) - maybe make the stream like 04:02:977 (7,8,1,2,3,4) - just the other way around (somehow like https://puu.sh/y5bFQ/9823ae6b59.jpg )
- 04:12:943 (7,1) - another stacking bug fixed
- 04:29:073 (1,2,3,4,1) - this curve could be visually improved changed
- 04:42:018 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - when i think about your prevoius stream pattering shouldnt it be structured like this: (im not talking about placemants ^^) :https://puu.sh/y5bTb/1a502b7a6a.jpg - exspecially cause an overall equally spaced stream wouldnt fit with the piano at all ~
- 04:59:484 (1,2,3,4) - that is super unconfortable to play and looks a bit messy~ (i dont got solutions how to map this better tho :/) it's 1/3 rhythm. expected to be playble with single tap

Good luck with the Mapset - one of my favorite alt maps!!! ^^ thanks!




Lasse wrote:

tick 2 really sucks for the intro since you get ticks on things like 00:02:360 - which is ??
same for parts like 02:11:813 (1) -
would just go with 1 or maybe silence ticks instead of slides (can't do both sadly) in these and similar parts changed to 1 tick

asaiga
01:38:936 (1,2,3) - this feels so incoherent with itself since the shapes don't feel like they belong together, I think using similar ideas for each slider (like curvature), for example: https://streamable.com/ehawm oke
for the chorus I think you could make it a bit more interesting by simplifying it a bit less. what I mean:
look at 01:44:176 (2,3) - 01:44:586 (4,5) - both only map a vocal on the sliderhead, fine
but then 01:44:895 (6,7) - has two, so differentiation it by doing something like https://i.imgur.com/TRyGR05.jpg would be great
same for things like 01:46:539 (6,7) - etc. ahhh i get it. I was kinda stuck my head in 1 concept and because i don't like unstack stuff in this kind of map. But you are right, I gotta make things cool :'D
the normal whistles in chorus seemed a bit weird as they happen so rarely, I don't think that works well tbh, using them more frequently or not using them would probably be better replaced normal whistles with soft whistles

04:10:169 (1,2) - why not +sv since they stand out a lot? you could even make them 1/8 imo increased SV
04:29:073 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ... you never used such harsh stream angles before, don't suddenly put them 5min into the map :/ changed this section's pattern
04:33:182 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - feels so lacking, why not higher sv to reflect the raised vocal intensity better nooooo i dont want fast sliders ;; (changed)
04:55:169 (4,1) - transition into stream is a bit lol visually, would be nice if slider lead into it like https://i.imgur.com/2rlNGU6.jpg fixed
04:55:991 (5,6) - why such a harsh angle, something like 04:58:148 (4,1) - would be nicer imo adjusted
05:00:169 (4) - 2 circles so you can map cymbal wold be neat done
05:03:997 - 15% green line oki

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sliderticks and the chorus spacing stuff are kinda important to me, feel free to call me back if you addressed those on it!
thanks! also updated Karen's part. I hope xD
Lama Poluna
796 posts
Joined June 2014
Lama Poluna
Hello! Can you use circle name on artist?
Asaiga
848 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Asaiga

Lama Poluna wrote:

Hello! Can you use circle name on artist?
i don't really know ó ^ ò
is this a matter of preference? if yes then i would like to keep merami
Winnie
1,343 posts
Joined November 2013
Winnie
Fixed Some Stff
osu file format v14

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Lasse
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Lasse
it's preference, you can either use Meramiop or 凋叶棕 (=Diao ye zong)
circle or vocalist are both acceptable here according to current metadata rc
Lama Poluna
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Lama Poluna
also,

Artist: 凋叶棕 feat. めらみぽっぷ or RD-Sounds feat. めらみぽっぷ

https://twitter.com/rdwithleaf/status/9 ... 2339969025

I recommend to use 凋叶棕 feat. めらみぽっぷ. Because it is more captures the essence of the game and the direction of the author.
Asaiga
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Asaiga

Lama Poluna wrote:

also,

Artist: 凋叶棕 feat. めらみぽっぷ or RD-Sounds feat. めらみぽっぷ

https://twitter.com/rdwithleaf/status/9 ... 2339969025

I recommend to use 凋叶棕 feat. めらみぽっぷ. Because it is more captures the essence of the game and the direction of the author.
Hi, I will change artist to 凋叶棕 next time i update ^^
But is it Diao Ye Zong or Diao ye zong or RD-Sounds in romanized artist?
Shortthu
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(from Metadata Heap)
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links
+ http://www.rd-sounds.com/reitai12.html
+ http://cosmopolitan93.net/free/profile
+ http://www16.big.or.jp/~zun/html/th06.html
+ http://www16.big.or.jp/~zun/html/th07.html
Asaiga
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metadata for later uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

i might change the artist back to merami since i prefer so

ok, keeping the artist name like lfj's https://osu.ppy.sh/s/628765
gotta avoid every dq, gals ( :
Kin
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Kin

Lasse wrote:

kin
01:08:011 (3) - what is this even mapping everything is on white tick after it
1/4 later is the hit hat, the blue tick here is mapped on the kick

IceKalt wrote:

o/

[Neraidaphobia]

- 00:51:573 (4,6) - that overlap choice is kinda random to me - maybe make it the same as 00:52:395 (7,8) - so it looks like this: https://puu.sh/y5aRM/4037c698e1.png it basically was a perfect stack, but I had to change it in order to make it rankable
- 01:19:004 (1) - white anchors wtf :o lovely ~
thanks for mod owo
Lasse
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recheck


:thinking:

05:03:883 - inconsistent timing line settings

kin
01:09:234 (4,1) - this seems unreasonably harsh movement wise for a rather slow part, spacing together with breaking movement so much on sliderbody is ??

asaiga
01:43:035 (4) - wouldnt it make more sense to start stream from here if you wanted to follow the high pitched thing
kiai is way nicer than before now
04:33:789 (3) - add some curve to this to make it look more fitting with your other shapes here?, same for 04:34:097 (1,3) - that part just looks a bit out of place with other visuals. maybe something likehttps://i.imgur.com/8ZGlHgo.jpg which basically plays the same as what you have right now


yea
Asaiga
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Lasse wrote:

recheck


:thinking: removed unused files

05:03:883 - inconsistent timing line settings fixed

kin
01:09:234 (4,1) - this seems unreasonably harsh movement wise for a rather slow part, spacing together with breaking movement so much on sliderbody is ?? fixed spacing&angle

asaiga
01:43:035 (4) - wouldnt it make more sense to start stream from here if you wanted to follow the high pitched thing
kiai is way nicer than before now ok, made 2 circles
04:33:789 (3) - add some curve to this to make it look more fitting with your other shapes here?, same for 04:34:097 (1,3) - that part just looks a bit out of place with other visuals. maybe something likehttps://i.imgur.com/8ZGlHgo.jpg which basically plays the same as what you have right now adjusted shapes


yea agree
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MaridiuS
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[Asaiga]
  1. 01:38:926 (1) - This slider is completely meh and disconnected from the subsequent two. 01:39:748 (2,3) - These two other than look better by their own, have this sweet overlap connect, I suggest trying something with the initial link to connect it with the two by some form of overlapping or blanketing. The current shape doesn't seem appealing to me because it has crude lines, nothing to come in handy for blanketing other objects around it. https://i.imgur.com/s2LWoV1.jpg generally bending something inwards the slider feels good 01:40:570 (3) - or you can just make a curve like this one on the final part of it, not both the start and the end if its not symmetrical.
  2. 01:42:419 (1,2,3) - This really calls for a triangle since (2) was rotated about 110 degrees (which reminds of 120). Now the map just has 3 chaotically placed sliders without any similar rotation symmetry or angle. Other than aesthetics, the sliders lead to objects further in timeline in different kind of ways. So idk just make a 120 degree rotation triangle classic pattern I suppose?
  3. 04:27:213 (4,6) - Making them parallel or inversed should look much better. https://i.imgur.com/RJrmfFw.jpg can't you just rotate the big slider by 5 degrees and make the other slider parallel to it which will also lead better to 04:27:419 (5) - .
  4. 04:52:898 (1,2,3) - Having them in some different shape, triangles perhaps, will leave a much better taste since this is a different layer in a different part. Never in the map have there been such cute guitar hits, therefore I suggest to emphasize them with shape, they are nothing liek the vocals in the kiais. Perhaps something like this? https://i.imgur.com/LfS2Ry2.jpg

[karen]
  1. 03:23:309 (4,5,6,7,1) - This just doesn't seem to fit. 03:23:515 (6) - Doesn't sound distinct at all and this is a large leap from the previous 2stack. 03:25:261 (4,1) - Here you don't emphasize based on the snare, and also both cases don't really call for a stream jump at all, it is a peaceful section. 03:26:700 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - soon after you don't use it all, which is the correct choice OwO.
  2. 03:28:446 (2) - By making this into a 1/4 slider you will give larger emphasis to the 5stack, and have the pattern a bit easier which should fit the overall tone of the section, it is not intense nearly as the kiai parts. 03:28:549 - Doesn't sound audible too.
  3. 03:42:419 (3,1) - This is way too unusual and not really fitting. Much better alternative would be to jump to 03:42:625 (2) - which is a white tick and also a loud guitar, it's much more rhythmically plausible to jump on that then on the unexpected raise of pitch on the guitar.
[kin]
  1. 00:48:994 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Think the section is overall too peaceful for that, you can tone it down a bit my making 00:49:303 (1) - be spaced from 00:49:200 (3) - like (3) from (1) https://i.imgur.com/KGKLqqe.jpg.
  2. 01:14:679 (5) - Noticeable piano pitch intensity raises here rather than where you NCed. I suggest increasing the spacing starting from here instead, it is also more rhythmically correct since it's on a white tick, main beat in the song.
We also had an irc talk about aesthetics some patterns were fixed, some were deemed irrelevant to fix meaning in the current map some concepts can't be applied, but I believe Asaiga will keep those things in mind for future mapping. Also I modded this half-asleep so when rechecking I will maybe point out bigger stuff too if I spot something.
Asaiga
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MaridiuS wrote:

[Asaiga]
  1. 01:38:926 (1) - This slider is completely meh and disconnected from the subsequent two. 01:39:748 (2,3) - These two other than look better by their own, have this sweet overlap connect, I suggest trying something with the initial link to connect it with the two by some form of overlapping or blanketing. The current shape doesn't seem appealing to me because it has crude lines, nothing to come in handy for blanketing other objects around it. https://i.imgur.com/s2LWoV1.jpg generally bending something inwards the slider feels good 01:40:570 (3) - or you can just make a curve like this one on the final part of it, not both the start and the end if its not symmetrical. I would bend slider(1) inwards but it wouldn't play that well. Because distance 1,2 would be too close compare to 2,3. Unless you want me to remake these sliders. Beside, the flow is good, it builds up vertically then jump to 2
  2. 01:42:419 (1,2,3) - This really calls for a triangle since (2) was rotated about 110 degrees (which reminds of 120) i dont think i used rotation tool, how do you know?. Now the map just has 3 chaotically placed sliders without any similar rotation symmetry or angle. Other than aesthetics, the sliders lead to objects further in timeline in different kind of ways. So idk just make a 120 degree rotation triangle classic pattern I suppose? made them look neater but not 120 degree like you said cuz it would make the flow bad
  3. 04:27:213 (4,6) - Making them parallel or inversed should look much better. https://i.imgur.com/RJrmfFw.jpg can't you just rotate the big slider by 5 degrees and make the other slider parallel to it which will also lead better to 04:27:419 (5) - . they are now parallel but unlike suggestion a bit. I understand why you think 4,5 in the picture would connect better, but that's for general bpm. Have a look at this https://puu.sh/yEHF7/f5695591bb.jpg with my right-bend slider it would go well to the next slider, as for your suggestion, people might go further to the left which cause a sliderbreak. I'm not a physicist but tell me if i'm wrong
  4. 04:52:898 (1,2,3) - Having them in some different shape, triangles perhaps, will leave a much better taste since this is a different layer in a different part. Never in the map have there been such cute guitar hits, therefore I suggest to emphasize them with shape, they are nothing liek the vocals in the kiais. Perhaps something like this? https://i.imgur.com/LfS2Ry2.jpg fixed this part's pattern


We also had an irc talk about aesthetics some patterns were fixed, some were deemed irrelevant to fix meaning in the current map some concepts can't be applied, but I believe Asaiga will keep those things in mind for future mapping. Also I modded this half-asleep so when rechecking I will maybe point out bigger stuff too if I spot something. thank you thank you! you are so considerate
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:thinking:
Asaiga
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veto'ed
Karen
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fixed all, also adjusted the flow of 03:43:446 (1,2,3,4) - this stream hope it's ok

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Kin
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Kin

MaridiuS wrote:

[kin]
  1. 00:48:994 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Think the section is overall too peaceful for that, you can tone it down a bit my making 00:49:303 (1) - be spaced from 00:49:200 (3) - like (3) from (1) https://i.imgur.com/KGKLqqe.jpg. it actually make less sense to start the spaced stream here 00:49:405 (2) - instead of here 00:49:303 (1) - . I will reduce the spacing between those a bit 00:49:303 (1,2,3) - ; but not gonna change 00:49:200 (3,1) -
  2. 01:14:679 (5) - Noticeable piano pitch intensity raises here rather than where you NCed. I suggest increasing the spacing starting from here instead, it is also more rhythmically correct since it's on a white tick, main beat in the song. without talking about pitch, you can clearly hear those piano note 01:14:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - are different from those 01:14:885 (1,2,1) - . 01:14:679 (5) - is sure higher pitched, but not so different from 01:14:268 (1,2,3,4) - . However, you can clearly hear 01:14:885 (1,2,1) - is at least 1 octave lower than the other.
thanks for mod!
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Oh well, checked some hitsounds irc and stuff. Sorry for shredding the bubble lasse, thanks for informing me how the procedure goes in detail.
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