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Celldweller - So Long Sentiment

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Not_Zippy
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, 16 February 2023 at 14:01:41

Artist: Celldweller
Title: So Long Sentiment
Tags: Wish Upon A Blackstar Voli Synitri Collab Electronic-Rock Electronic Rock Drum'n'Bass DnB Drum Bass Industrial collaboration SLS English Featured Artist
BPM: 180
Filesize: 14435kb
Play Time: 05:36
Difficulties Available:
  1. Solitude (5,5 stars, 1319 notes)
Download: Celldweller - So Long Sentiment
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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- It doesn't matter now -


REDOWNLOAD REQUIRED AFTER 02-07-2020

What happens when Voli and I go full tryhard.
Also contains Voli's first attempt at storyboarding and my first attempt at making a skin from scratch, so yay historical value, I guess.

Storyboard: Voli
Hitsounding: Not_Zippy
Skin: Not_Zippy

changelog
15-12-2016: Applied zev's mod

20-12-2016: Changed AR to 9.3 and added a few custom hitsound samples

10-01-2017: Applied Arutsuki's mod

15-01-2017: Applied Bluekrait's mod

03-02-2017: Applied diraimur's mod

06-02-2017: Added custom skin elements

02-03-2017: Applied Tshemmp's mod

18-06-2017: Fixed a blanket

04-07-2017: Added two more custom hitsound samples and warning arrow sprite

06-07-2017: Removed warning arrow sprite because the game is bugged and won't use warning arrow sprites included in maps, fix your game pepster!

23-07-2017: Minor hitsound fixes here and there to better fit the new samples

24-07-2017: Lowered volume on a bunch of sliderends because CircleChu told me to

25-09-2017: Lowered volume on a couple of sliderends again because I needed an excuse to revive this

01-10-2017: Forgot to lower a few sliderends last time so fixed that

23-10-2017: Applied M a r v o l l o's and PandaHero's mods

23-03-2019: GLORIOUS REVIVAL YES also minor tweaks

21-04-2019: Skin additions

16-05-2019: Extremely minor hitsound fix because I'm keeping this map alive damn it

17-05-2019: Removed unused high-res skin sprites and applied the rest of bite you death's mods

18-05-2019: Various tweaks (IRC mods)

26-05-2019: More tweaks (IRC mods and own revisions)

09-07-2019: Literally tidied up two notes lol

15-08-2019: Map now ends in exactly the same spot as where it begins because that's poetic or something

18-11-2019: Revive lol

21-11-2019: Added visible followpoints, redid the outro and made a few minor tweaks as per quiz-chan's suggestions

03-02-2020: Updated MP3 to the new official featured artist one, you have no idea how much of a pain it is to update all the storyboard timings after this 0/10 can't recommend

14-03-2020: Blanketed a fix

26-04-2020: Changed a slider that bugged me

11-05-2020: Applied riffy's mods

14-05-2020: Applied riffy's mods: the sequel

15-05-2020: Tags updated

05-06-2020: Tags updated (again)

02-07-2020: Added greyscale storyboard elements for the desaturated sections as per FailureAtOsu's suggestion

13-07-2020: Ran Arphimigon's blanket modding bot and fixed a bunch of blankets

24-08-2020: Un-janked an old pattern that was bugging me

12-12-2020: Rearranged a slightly awkward pattern because I wanted a reason to revive this, also Voli wanted to update a few sections

15-12-2020: Cleaned up some more placements to make things feel more cohesive

04-01-2021: More visual cleanup

29-09-2021: Bixed a flanket

15-12-2022: Another small visual polishing pass because I needed an excuse to revive this again lmao

28-12-2022: Polished some visuals (also tag update)

27-01-2023: Volished some pisuals

02-02-2023: Small section reworked in one of Voli's parts

12-02-2023: Added a sick animated banner courtesy of Voli (graphic designer btw)

13-02-2023: Fixed an angle that wasn't very visually pleasing and tweaked some hitsounds

15-02-2023: Voli tweaked a few bits

16-02-2023: Tweaked a few bits to tie even more patterns together and make future modding even more difficult oh god what am I doing
Antares-
Topic Starter
Not_Zippy

Antares- wrote:

wrong song tho
zev
General
  1. in the end it doesnt evene amtter
haey
00:43:263 (1) - I would rather have this as a slider because this is when vocals get added to the track

01:02:263 (1) - did you freaking handplace everything? unadvised in calm parts

01:11:596 (7) - two straight sliders in a row doesn't fit the aesthetics tbh

01:19:431 (3) - not sure about hving manual triples and these ones mixed together, personally i wouldnt

01:37:264 (10) - oh my god not the number 10, NEw cOmB voli oops zipy

01:41:764 (2,3) - cause of these 1/4 sliders spacing, these kinda look like 1/4ish now so don't play so much with the spacing here please.

01:50:679 (5,6,2,3,4,5,6) - these streams are spaced too close mybe

02:12:264 (3) - hi i'm nc

02:40:264 (11) - end me here or this fun pattern!? http://puu.sh/sPATl/88ee750b67.jpg so you can still nc the downbeat?

03:14:097 (3,4,5) - whats hapenign here why is there a tripet

05:08:763 (4) - this should not be the largest jump it will feel weird because it has less intensity then 05:08:263 (1,2,3) - imo
Voli

zev wrote:

General
  1. in the end it doesnt evene amtter
haey heay
00:43:263 (1) - I would rather have this as a slider because this is when vocals get added to the track nahh i don't think its more fitting

01:19:431 (3) - not sure about hving manual triples and these ones mixed together, personally i wouldnt made them manuals too

02:12:264 (3) - hi i'm nc fixd

02:40:264 (11) - end me here or this fun pattern!? http://puu.sh/sPATl/88ee750b67.jpg so you can still nc the downbeat? WHAT FUCK NO LOOL r u crazy

05:08:763 (4) - this should not be the largest jump it will feel weird because it has less intensity then 05:08:263 (1,2,3) - imo made it less of a jump
Thx for mod
https://voli.s-ul.eu/0gCSgYyZ code
Topic Starter
Not_Zippy

zev wrote:

General
  1. in the end it doesnt evene amtter
haey hyea

01:02:263 (1) - did you freaking handplace everything? unadvised in calm parts Manual stacks bro (or at least I'm guessing that's what you mean?) Tried to keep this consistent through all my parts so keeping this for now

01:11:596 (7) - two straight sliders in a row doesn't fit the aesthetics tbh Added some ~curves~

01:37:264 (10) - oh my god not the number 10, NEw cOmB voli oops zipy Removed NC on 01:36:097 (3) - and put it on 01:36:264 (1) - instead (I blame Voli for making a LITERAL 2 NOTE COMBO before this)

01:41:764 (2,3) - cause of these 1/4 sliders spacing, these kinda look like 1/4ish now so don't play so much with the spacing here please. Moved things a little closer together (hope it's still readable)

01:50:679 (5,6,2,3,4,5,6) - these streams are spaced too close mybe Keeping these because lol manual stacking unless someone else complains

03:14:097 (3,4,5) - whats hapenign here why is there a tripet Because I hear a triple there..? Idunno, it's pretty soft but I feel like just having another set of jumps or something would ruin the emphasis on 03:14:264 (5,6) -
Nice, small mod. I like small mods because it means I didn't screw up much. Have some KDs for helpful stuff.
zev
Wat gebeurd er als niet_zippy en voli gaan volledig probeerhard
Arutsuki
:x ay nm from q

solitude
•00:34:930 (1,2,3) - and 00:37:596 (1,1,2) - same sounds mappped differently wha
•01:19:597 (5,6) - spacing these would make it more fun imo
•01:32:832 - pretty long for no break
•01:36:764 (3,4,5,6,7) - no sound for a burst do something else pls / 01:41:597 - up to here
•02:23:430 (4,5,6,7,8) - why such a huge spacing change outta nowhere?
•02:53:930 (1,2) - these should be a kickslider or just a single note since there's no sound on (2)
•02:17:597 (1,2,3) - I'd say these would work with the music better if you made them kicksliders
•02:21:264 (1) - why nc?
•02:50:014 (4) - delete this and put a note on the next blue tick, you got the triplet a bit off. oh and 02:50:430 (7,8,9) - should be just a double, no sound on (9)
•03:17:764 - I feel like the first vocals should be clickable here
•03:59:263 - , 04:08:263 - make these long sliders to empathise the stretched vocal
•04:53:346 (2,3,4) - no sound
•also get rid of the 90bpm red tick, the song slows down but the bpm is still the same

gl with ranking this
Voli
hey, responding for my parts

Arutsuki wrote:

:x ay nm from q

solitude
•00:34:930 (1,2,3) - and 00:37:596 (1,1,2) - same sounds mappped differently wha mapped by pitch, the last note has the highest pitch (thats also why theres a whistle there)
•01:19:597 (5,6) - spacing these would make it more fun imo ouch sounds like that would be very hard to distinguish from normal 1/2 jumps, so i'll skip on this one
•01:32:832 - pretty long for no break i'm kinda torn between break or no break here, might decide to add break later
•01:36:764 (3,4,5,6,7) - no sound for a burst do something else pls / 01:41:597 - up to here
•02:23:430 (4,5,6,7,8) - why such a huge spacing change outta nowhere? 02:22:930 (1,2) - and 02:23:264 (3,4) - are both roughly the same spacing, but the spacing from 2 to 3 is bigger because 02:23:264 (3) - has a strong clap sound on it
•02:53:930 (1,2) - these should be a kickslider or just a single note since there's no sound on (2) whoops, fixed
•02:17:597 (1,2,3) - I'd say these would work with the music better if you made them kicksliders prefer to keep it consistent with the rest of those parts (notes mapped to violin)
•02:21:264 (1) - why nc? bye nc
•02:50:014 (4) - delete this and put a note on the next blue tick, you got the triplet a bit off. oh and 02:50:430 (7,8,9) - should be just a double, no sound on (9) i do get what you mean, but i chose to ignore the underlying drums there and map the triples on the synth(?) since theyre pretty strong.
•03:17:764 - I feel like the first vocals should be clickable here
•03:59:263 - , 04:08:263 - make these long sliders to empathise the stretched vocal
•04:53:346 (2,3,4) - no sound
•also get rid of the 90bpm red tick, the song slows down but the bpm is still the same

gl with ranking this
Thanks for modding ^^

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Topic Starter
Not_Zippy

Arutsuki wrote:

:x ay nm from q HI

solitude
•01:36:764 (3,4,5,6,7) - no sound for a burst do something else pls / 01:41:597 - up to here - changed to 1/2 for 01:36:764 (3,4,5) - but 01:39:264 (2,3,4,5,6) - definitely has drums strong enough for a stream so keeping that
•03:17:764 - I feel like the first vocals should be clickable here So turn 03:17:597 (1) - into two circles? Feels like it'd be a bit much on the jumps (feels weird for me to say that wtf). I did change 03:19:430 (3,4,5) - though for more emphasis on vocals in this part(
•03:59:263 - , 04:08:263 - make these long sliders to empathise the stretched vocal - How do I slider art aaaaaaaa
•04:53:346 (2,3,4) - no sound no notes
•also get rid of the 90bpm red tick, the song slows down but the bpm is still the same - Ehhh, keeping unless more people start complaining about it because it really feels like it goes half bpm to me (and it'd mess up SV and such)

gl with ranking this THANKS, gonna need it tbh
Thanks for modding and have some kds
diraimur
Bluekrait
Not_Zippy's free #modhelp request

[Solitude]
  1. 00:32:596 (1,1) - NC not needed
  2. 01:03:930 (1,2) - Increase DS; sliders barely touching doesn't look good.
  3. 01:07:096 (3) - NC here
  4. 01:14:931 (1) - Don't double bpm; instead double slider velocity.
  5. 01:24:430 (8) - NC
  6. 01:40:930 (5,6) - Consider something like this. Just so they're not touching.
  7. 01:57:597 (1,2) - Blanket
  8. 02:39:930 (10) - Consider NC'ing just this slider, maybe grey since it's dramatically slower.
  9. 02:48:430 (2,4) - Blanket
  10. 03:14:930 (8) - NC
  11. 03:39:263 (1) - NC not needed (same part near the start of the song, you NC'd every measure)
  12. 03:49:930 (4) - NC
  13. 03:55:263 (4) - NC not needed
  14. 04:03:597 (5) - NC
  15. 04:06:263 (7,8,9) - Delete and put NC'd circle on 04:07:930 (9) -
  16. 04:40:763 (1,3,4) - Blanket; maybe increase gap betwen blanket.
  17. 04:50:596 (5,1) - Blanket
  18. 05:20:263 (1,2,4,5) - Aesthetics off; consider rearranging the sliders to form a more cohesive pattern. Nothing wrong with blankets like 05:07:263 (1,2) -
  19. 06:02:930 (1) - Consider cutting the mp3 here or putting an ending credits in SB; there's a good 6 seconds of silence.

    Final Thoughts:
    There are many more blanket improvements you two can make. I only listed the ones that jumped out at me while I was playing. The same goes for NC's and patterns in general.
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Voli
no response=fix

Bluekrait wrote:

Not_Zippy's free #modhelp request

[Solitude]
  1. 00:32:596 (1,1) - NC not needed
  2. 01:24:430 (8) - NC prefer ncing the start of the next pattern (and strong clap sound)
  3. 02:39:930 (10) - Consider NC'ing just this slider, maybe grey since it's dramatically slower.
  4. 02:48:430 (2,4) - Blanket
thx!
Topic Starter
Not_Zippy

Bluekrait wrote:

Not_Zippy's free #modhelp request

[Solitude]
  1. 01:03:930 (1,2) - Increase DS; sliders barely touching doesn't look good. - Fixed
  2. 01:07:096 (3) - NC here - I prefer having the NC on 01:07:263 (1) - for emphasis (strong clap sound)
  3. 01:14:931 (1) - Don't double bpm; instead double slider velocity. - removed 90bpm sections and made them 180bpm with halved SV settings since this is the second time someone mentions them
  4. 01:40:930 (5,6) - Consider something like this. Just so they're not touching. - Rotated both by 5° so they're not touching anymore
  5. 01:57:597 (1,2) - Blanket - I tried okay
  6. 03:14:930 (8) - NC - Done
  7. 03:39:263 (1) - NC not needed (same part near the start of the song, you NC'd every measure) - Done
  8. 03:49:930 (4) - NC - Done
  9. 03:55:263 (4) - NC not needed - But there's no NC? I'm guessing you mean NC like above
  10. 04:03:597 (5) - NC - Done
  11. 04:06:263 (7,8,9) - Delete and put NC'd circle on 04:07:930 (9) - - Disagree with this, there are light cymbals in the track and leaving it empty feels wrong (did put an NC on 04:08:263 (1) - though)
  12. 04:40:763 (1,3,4) - Blanket; maybe increase gap betwen blanket. - TIL I'm terrible at making blankets look any good
  13. 04:50:596 (5,1) - Blanket - Attempted to fix
  14. 05:20:263 (1,2,4,5) - Aesthetics off; consider rearranging the sliders to form a more cohesive pattern. Nothing wrong with blankets like 05:07:263 (1,2) - - All the blankets
  15. 06:02:930 (1) - Consider cutting the mp3 here or putting an ending credits in SB; there's a good 6 seconds of silence. - More like 3 seconds of true silence, but I'm gonna start bugging Voli for maybe an end credits sequence and might cut those last 3 seconds off

    Final Thoughts:
    There are many more blanket improvements you two can make. I only listed the ones that jumped out at me while I was playing. The same goes for NC's and patterns in general. - That's what mods are for, right? Did another pass cleaning up blankets and such too
Thanks for modding and enjoy kds
diraimur
overall: bright green and weird bluegreen combo colours(ye british woo) feels out of place tbh compared to bg, but it might be just me idk

00:57:932 (3) - i think this should start 1/2 later, so consider changing 00:57:599 (2) - into 1/1 slider
00:59:599 (1) - imo remove this and place a note at 00:59:932 - because vocals feel stronger
01:19:599 (5,6) - ur going to hell for this (jk its fine but i have personal grudge against them.)
01:22:099 (3,4,5,6,7) - they look better straight than this amount of curved i m o
01:23:599 (5,6) - ya no worries just expressing my personal grudge
01:25:932 - dis is kinda triggr tbh isnt there a way to make it c l i c k a b l e especially since you click on 01:26:432 (5) -
01:37:599 (1) - decrease curve tbh, sth lik 01:40:266 (1) - looks way better
02:32:266 (1,1) - dese should be orange/red nc'd
02:37:599 (1,2) - i dont know why they are 1/4 slider at all, cant hear anything in blue ticks, there arent vocals there too
02:43:599 (3) - ctrl+g tbh idk
02:45:516 (11) - feels kinda overmappd mayb just me
02:02:099 (4) - isnt nc'd,02:55:432 (1) - is
02:59:932 (8,9,1) - just make them straight imo no need for curve, decrease a spacing a little too if possible
03:05:599 (1) - feels two 1/2 notes man
03:08:599 (3,4) - maybe remove curves because flow doesnt catch with 03:08:932 (5) -
03:23:599 (4) - mayb blanket with 03:23:266 (2) - instead of end of 03:22:599 (5) - since its not even visible by the time you reach that slider
04:43:432 (3,4) - cud increase spacing a littl
05:07:099 - u mad whats that clap?
05:07:266 (1) - eh i'd say sth but i know you will deny so w/e
05:14:099 (5,6,7,8,9) - not sure about clap spam, i'd do sth like drum whistle but ok

sik collab gl
Voli

diraimur wrote:

overall: bright green and weird bluegreen combo colours(ye british woo) feels out of place tbh compared to bg, but it might be just me idk

01:19:599 (5,6) - ur going to hell for this (jk its fine but i have personal grudge against them.) lol idk wat else to do tho cba more quint spam, maybe a repeat?
01:22:099 (3,4,5,6,7) - they look better straight than this amount of curved i m o agreed
01:23:599 (5,6) - ya no worries just expressing my personal grudge no, fuck you XD
01:25:932 - dis is kinda triggr tbh isnt there a way to make it c l i c k a b l e especially since you click on 01:26:432 (5) - ok mom its clickable
02:32:266 (1,1) - dese should be orange/red nc'd idk i mostly did the emphasized part 02:29:599 (1) - as red/orange in a short burst, wanted it to back to normal asap since red/orange is the kiai mostly
02:37:599 (1,2) - i dont know why they are 1/4 slider at all, cant hear anything in blue ticks, there arent vocals there too synth
02:43:599 (3) - ctrl+g tbh idk mehhh not feelin the jump
02:45:516 (11) - feels kinda overmappd mayb just me idk i just mapped drums lol nvm fixed
05:07:099 - u mad whats that clap? ask hitsoundmaster zyppi
05:07:266 (1) - eh i'd say sth but i know you will deny so w/e ye denied already np;)
05:14:099 (5,6,7,8,9) - not sure about clap spam, i'd do sth like drum whistle but ok hs master zyppi
O K thx mr. diri for mod

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Topic Starter
Not_Zippy
LATE NIGHT LATE MOD RESPONSE YAY LETS GO

diraimur wrote:

overall: bright green and weird bluegreen combo colours(ye british woo) feels out of place tbh compared to bg, but it might be just me idk - Covered this through skype, teal and green colors are from the nebula on the right edge of bg

00:57:932 (3) - i think this should start 1/2 later, so consider changing 00:57:599 (2) - into 1/1 slider - Works pretty well
00:59:599 (1) - imo remove this and place a note at 00:59:932 - because vocals feel stronger - Need the sound there imo
01:37:599 (1) - decrease curve tbh, sth lik 01:40:266 (1) - looks way better - >not liking wonk-tastic sliders (changed tho)
02:02:099 (4) - isnt nc'd,02:55:432 (1) - is - Srsly fuk me for already putting tryhard combo color stuff into this it's such a pain to fix
02:59:932 (8,9,1) - just make them straight imo no need for curve, decrease a spacing a little too if possible - Fix'd
03:05:599 (1) - feels two 1/2 notes man - Tru
03:08:599 (3,4) - maybe remove curves because flow doesnt catch with 03:08:932 (5) - - But what if, get this, we REVERSED CURVES for MOAR BLANKETING ACTION?
03:23:599 (4) - mayb blanket with 03:23:266 (2) - instead of end of 03:22:599 (5) - since its not even visible by the time you reach that slider - Lol no that'd completely screw up spacing between 03:23:932 (6,7) - and I'd rather have slight overspacing than underspacing in hypest part of entire song
04:43:432 (3,4) - cud increase spacing a littl - Actually rotated 04:43:599 (4,5,6) - a tiny bit so spacing between 04:43:432 (3,4) - is bigger and the triplet points to 04:43:932 (7) - better as well ZYPPI FIXING ALL THE THINGS
05:07:099 - u mad whats that clap? - Dunno lol fixed
05:14:099 (5,6,7,8,9) - not sure about clap spam, i'd do sth like drum whistle but ok - That's not what drumwhistle is used for tho and it's a pretty different sound, softclap is closest in current HS library

sik collab gl Yes nice ty gonna need it
Thank mr diri
hav kds

am slep now
diraimur
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Tshemmp
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SPOILER
2017-03-02 17:35 Tshemmp: 00:54:932 (2,3,4) - spacing between these is different than between these 00:49:599 (3,4,5) -
2017-03-02 17:36 Tshemmp: 01:01:266 (4) - this slidershape makes little sense to me, round sliders were used before and on 01:02:599 (2) - which is kinda the same tone a round slider is used again
2017-03-02 17:37 Tshemmp: guess it is intended that these dont stack? 01:04:599 (3,5) -
2017-03-02 17:38 Not_Zippy: 00:49:599 (3,4,5) - areVoli's, so I'll leave those to him
2017-03-02 17:39 Tshemmp: 01:07:932 (2,3,4) - same thing musically speaking as 01:13:266 (4) - but mapped differently?
2017-03-02 17:39 Not_Zippy: 01:01:266 (4) - is a semicircle now
2017-03-02 17:40 Tshemmp: alright
2017-03-02 17:40 Not_Zippy: yes, that's a gimmick I use throughout my parts
2017-03-02 17:40 Not_Zippy: 01:04:599 (3,5) -
2017-03-02 17:40 Tshemmp: btw if you have good reasoning for your mapping tell me your reason
2017-03-02 17:40 Tshemmp: I'd like to know
2017-03-02 17:40 Not_Zippy: will do
2017-03-02 17:41 Tshemmp: 01:24:766 (2,3,4,5,6) - not evenly spaced?
2017-03-02 17:41 Not_Zippy: 01:13:266 (4) - is following the other vocal line ("alone to face the rest of me" as opposed to "it doesn't matter now")
2017-03-02 17:42 Not_Zippy: 01:24:766 (2,3,4,5,6) - Voli's part again
2017-03-02 17:42 Tshemmp: could be an idea to make 01:42:099 (4,5,6,7,8) - these parallel to 01:41:599 (1,2) -
2017-03-02 17:43 Not_Zippy: I think I made that stream parallel to 01:42:599 (9) -
2017-03-02 17:43 Tshemmp: ah I see
2017-03-02 17:43 Not_Zippy: so I'll edit 01:41:599 (1,2) - instead
2017-03-02 17:44 Tshemmp: 01:48:266 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - these flow pretty good for some reason :D
2017-03-02 17:45 Tshemmp: 01:55:266 (2,3) - instead of slider-circle, circle-slider might be an idea to fit the vocals very well if you want to do that
2017-03-02 17:47 Tshemmp: any special reason why this one 02:15:932 (1) - has a different combo/colour as a single object
2017-03-02 17:48 Tshemmp: 02:23:432 (4,5,6,7,8) - I would space that a bit just like the other 5 circle streams in the part before
2017-03-02 17:48 Not_Zippy: I think that different combo colour is because of an SV difference between that one and the next
2017-03-02 17:49 Not_Zippy: 01:55:266 (2,3) - leaving these as-is by the way, I want 01:55:599 (3) - (snare hit) clickable
2017-03-02 17:49 Tshemmp: wow I didn't even notice
2017-03-02 17:49 Tshemmp: yeah I thought so
2017-03-02 17:50 Tshemmp: 02:39:932 (1) - doesn't that one go a bit to high? out of the playable area I mean. It doesn't bother me but I don't know if this stuff is rankable
2017-03-02 17:51 Not_Zippy: I've seen ranked maps do worse, but I'll ask Voli to check
2017-03-02 17:52 Tshemmp: why is this stream 03:05:266 (8,9,10,11,1) - spaced and formed differently from the others
2017-03-02 17:53 Not_Zippy: hmm
2017-03-02 17:53 Not_Zippy: probably for variety's sake, though it might be a bit much
2017-03-02 17:53 Tshemmp: then maybe make the third stream different aswell
2017-03-02 17:53 Tshemmp: idk
2017-03-02 17:54 Not_Zippy: I think I'll just curve the 2nd one a bit and rearrange some stuff
2017-03-02 17:56 Tshemmp: MAYBE ctrl+g on this one 03:19:432 (3) - and then ctrl+g on 03:19:599 (4) - aswell, idk, kinda flows a bit better for me and increases the spacing between the short sliders because I find it a little bit to small atm but no big deal
2017-03-02 17:57 Not_Zippy: that's a good one actually
2017-03-02 17:58 Tshemmp: maybe I am dumb, but why is there a triplet here 03:25:599 (1,2) -
2017-03-02 17:58 Tshemmp: *deaf
2017-03-02 17:59 Tshemmp: 03:28:266 (1,4,6) - three different shapes, idk, it's not really a problem but it could be made to make more sense and unity if you know what I mean
2017-03-02 17:59 Not_Zippy: 03:25:766 (2) - so the vocals are clickable I'd guess, though 03:17:599 (1) - I didn't do the same thing here
2017-03-02 18:00 Tshemmp: yeah, whatever you do, make it consistent :D
2017-03-02 18:01 Not_Zippy: 03:17:599 (1,2) - made vocals clickable there too now
2017-03-02 18:02 Tshemmp:
2017-03-02 18:02 Tshemmp: 03:48:599 (3) - maybe just a generic symmetrical wave slider here?
2017-03-02 18:03 Tshemmp: 04:09:599 (1,2,3,4,5) - move a bit up because they nearly touch the slider from before?
2017-03-02 18:03 Not_Zippy: 03:29:432 (6) - is a copy of 03:28:266 (1) - now
2017-03-02 18:04 Not_Zippy: 04:09:599 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - makes sense, moved so it looks nicer
2017-03-02 18:05 Tshemmp: 04:38:599 (8) - maybe this slider can be bowed a bit to the bottom left (so not being a straight line), it would fit together with 04:37:599 (1) - and 04:38:099 (3,4,5,6,7) -
2017-03-02 18:06 Not_Zippy: 03:48:599 (3) - looks a bit nicer too now
2017-03-02 18:08 Not_Zippy: 04:38:599 (8) - [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7464772 like this, right?]
2017-03-02 18:09 Tshemmp: actually I meant to put the slider node at the opposite site :D http://puu.sh/ur323.jpg it flows better like this coming from the stream imo
2017-03-02 18:10 Tshemmp: 05:17:932 (2,3) - think it would be nicer if these were just the same slider rotated 180° and not flipped horizontally
2017-03-02 18:10 Tshemmp: like you did with these 05:18:932 (4,5) -
2017-03-02 18:11 Tshemmp: 05:21:099 (4,5) - very sexy blanket but sliders generally don't touch eachother in this map, a little bit of spacing maybe
Topic Starter
Not_Zippy

Tshemmp wrote:

short irc mod
SPOILER
2017-03-02 17:35 Tshemmp: 00:54:932 (2,3,4) - spacing between these is different than between these 00:49:599 (3,4,5) -
2017-03-02 17:36 Tshemmp: 01:01:266 (4) - this slidershape makes little sense to me, round sliders were used before and on 01:02:599 (2) - which is kinda the same tone a round slider is used again
2017-03-02 17:37 Tshemmp: guess it is intended that these dont stack? 01:04:599 (3,5) -
2017-03-02 17:38 Not_Zippy: 00:49:599 (3,4,5) - areVoli's, so I'll leave those to him
2017-03-02 17:39 Tshemmp: 01:07:932 (2,3,4) - same thing musically speaking as 01:13:266 (4) - but mapped differently?
2017-03-02 17:39 Not_Zippy: 01:01:266 (4) - is a semicircle now
2017-03-02 17:40 Tshemmp: alright
2017-03-02 17:40 Not_Zippy: yes, that's a gimmick I use throughout my parts
2017-03-02 17:40 Not_Zippy: 01:04:599 (3,5) -
2017-03-02 17:40 Tshemmp: btw if you have good reasoning for your mapping tell me your reason
2017-03-02 17:40 Tshemmp: I'd like to know
2017-03-02 17:40 Not_Zippy: will do
2017-03-02 17:41 Tshemmp: 01:24:766 (2,3,4,5,6) - not evenly spaced?
2017-03-02 17:41 Not_Zippy: 01:13:266 (4) - is following the other vocal line ("alone to face the rest of me" as opposed to "it doesn't matter now")
2017-03-02 17:42 Not_Zippy: 01:24:766 (2,3,4,5,6) - Voli's part again
2017-03-02 17:42 Tshemmp: could be an idea to make 01:42:099 (4,5,6,7,8) - these parallel to 01:41:599 (1,2) -
2017-03-02 17:43 Not_Zippy: I think I made that stream parallel to 01:42:599 (9) -
2017-03-02 17:43 Tshemmp: ah I see
2017-03-02 17:43 Not_Zippy: so I'll edit 01:41:599 (1,2) - instead
2017-03-02 17:44 Tshemmp: 01:48:266 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - these flow pretty good for some reason :D
2017-03-02 17:45 Tshemmp: 01:55:266 (2,3) - instead of slider-circle, circle-slider might be an idea to fit the vocals very well if you want to do that
2017-03-02 17:47 Tshemmp: any special reason why this one 02:15:932 (1) - has a different combo/colour as a single object
2017-03-02 17:48 Tshemmp: 02:23:432 (4,5,6,7,8) - I would space that a bit just like the other 5 circle streams in the part before
2017-03-02 17:48 Not_Zippy: I think that different combo colour is because of an SV difference between that one and the next
2017-03-02 17:49 Not_Zippy: 01:55:266 (2,3) - leaving these as-is by the way, I want 01:55:599 (3) - (snare hit) clickable
2017-03-02 17:49 Tshemmp: wow I didn't even notice
2017-03-02 17:49 Tshemmp: yeah I thought so
2017-03-02 17:50 Tshemmp: 02:39:932 (1) - doesn't that one go a bit to high? out of the playable area I mean. It doesn't bother me but I don't know if this stuff is rankable
2017-03-02 17:51 Not_Zippy: I've seen ranked maps do worse, but I'll ask Voli to check
2017-03-02 17:52 Tshemmp: why is this stream 03:05:266 (8,9,10,11,1) - spaced and formed differently from the others
2017-03-02 17:53 Not_Zippy: hmm
2017-03-02 17:53 Not_Zippy: probably for variety's sake, though it might be a bit much
2017-03-02 17:53 Tshemmp: then maybe make the third stream different aswell
2017-03-02 17:53 Tshemmp: idk
2017-03-02 17:54 Not_Zippy: I think I'll just curve the 2nd one a bit and rearrange some stuff
2017-03-02 17:56 Tshemmp: MAYBE ctrl+g on this one 03:19:432 (3) - and then ctrl+g on 03:19:599 (4) - aswell, idk, kinda flows a bit better for me and increases the spacing between the short sliders because I find it a little bit to small atm but no big deal
2017-03-02 17:57 Not_Zippy: that's a good one actually
2017-03-02 17:58 Tshemmp: maybe I am dumb, but why is there a triplet here 03:25:599 (1,2) -
2017-03-02 17:58 Tshemmp: *deaf
2017-03-02 17:59 Tshemmp: 03:28:266 (1,4,6) - three different shapes, idk, it's not really a problem but it could be made to make more sense and unity if you know what I mean
2017-03-02 17:59 Not_Zippy: 03:25:766 (2) - so the vocals are clickable I'd guess, though 03:17:599 (1) - I didn't do the same thing here
2017-03-02 18:00 Tshemmp: yeah, whatever you do, make it consistent :D
2017-03-02 18:01 Not_Zippy: 03:17:599 (1,2) - made vocals clickable there too now
2017-03-02 18:02 Tshemmp:
2017-03-02 18:02 Tshemmp: 03:48:599 (3) - maybe just a generic symmetrical wave slider here?
2017-03-02 18:03 Tshemmp: 04:09:599 (1,2,3,4,5) - move a bit up because they nearly touch the slider from before?
2017-03-02 18:03 Not_Zippy: 03:29:432 (6) - is a copy of 03:28:266 (1) - now
2017-03-02 18:04 Not_Zippy: 04:09:599 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - makes sense, moved so it looks nicer
2017-03-02 18:05 Tshemmp: 04:38:599 (8) - maybe this slider can be bowed a bit to the bottom left (so not being a straight line), it would fit together with 04:37:599 (1) - and 04:38:099 (3,4,5,6,7) -
2017-03-02 18:06 Not_Zippy: 03:48:599 (3) - looks a bit nicer too now
2017-03-02 18:08 Not_Zippy: 04:38:599 (8) - [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7464772 like this, right?]
2017-03-02 18:09 Tshemmp: actually I meant to put the slider node at the opposite site :D http://puu.sh/ur323.jpg it flows better like this coming from the stream imo
2017-03-02 18:10 Tshemmp: 05:17:932 (2,3) - think it would be nicer if these were just the same slider rotated 180° and not flipped horizontally
2017-03-02 18:10 Tshemmp: like you did with these 05:18:932 (4,5) -
2017-03-02 18:11 Tshemmp: 05:21:099 (4,5) - very sexy blanket but sliders generally don't touch eachother in this map, a little bit of spacing maybe
Yes hi
Thanks for mod :D

(and now we wait for Voli)
Voli
Fixed the uneven spacing on one of those quints
I checked 02:39:932 (1) -, it isnt offscreen so no change

Thanks :D
Mashed
Nice map played it and its fun :> free *
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