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My language is designed to intone exasperation because these kinds of things should be noted by any modder worth their BN title, since these are often things that separate good maps from great maps or great maps from amazing maps, and thinking about these options and deciding which best fits your vision is your job as a mapper.

It is theoretically the job ofmodders to give you options tot hink about, not simply correct obvious errors. Most modding right now i feel is way too afraid to say anything that could be argued with. This atmoaphere of non-combativeness simply hurts creqtivity and innovation.

I apologize if you feel that my mod was insulting to the mapper. It was intended to point out the lacklustre quality of the mods you got to help your chosen symmetrical style flourish.
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"01:40:264 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Normally you have a 1/4 slider starting this off-beat start rolls off, but here it's a full stream? This goes for MOST of the streams in the last chorus... " Thanks for pointing this out shiirn i forgot to mention it when i saw it bubbled.


Regarding the sliders that could be made in a triple consider it once again. Usually people just defend it but haven't really tried the suggestion, so my suggestion is to experiment a little bit more to see if it will be possible to make to your liking because personally the drums are too loud and would offer a nice variation in gameplay to where the triple is called for. Like shiirn I'm not insisting to make the change, I'm just insisting to try it and experiment a little bit more with that you may end up liking it more in the end.
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MaridiuS wrote:

Regarding the sliders that could be made in a triple consider it once again.
I already said my reasons about that, so.. No.
I believe it has a lot of visual impact shrouded in these changes and symmetry remains the focus around the difficulties, and as stated;
1/4 kick sliders can support triplets (not so present in music) I can enhance their visibility (by adding a hitsound and/or increasing the volume)
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Kalindraz wrote:

1/4 kick sliders can support triplets
Yes, if you've consistently represented that particular form of triple with a 1/4 slider in the past, and continue to do so in the future, without a good thematic reason to do so.

You already consistently represented those triples as three circles before that pattern, and use three circles after it as well.

There is no non-bullshit reason to force that pattern to use two 1/4 sliders for such a powerful triple that you have always previously and always done after.

Except, apparently, "Because I want to use a perfectly symmetrical pattern here, not one designed around being symmetrical with 2 circles instead of a 1/4 slider".




It took me less than a minute to come up with a replacement example for 01:32:721 (1,2) - . This is obviously not the potentially best one, as there are many you can consider, but it took less than a minute to come up with a way to potentially have a symmetrical pattern that follows the music.

I don't understand what's so hard to understand about this.
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some stuffs

00:13:521 (1) - instead of tilting the slider, why don't just create a fake stack?

00:13:693 (2) - no whistle as no violin, use drum whistle if u wanna follow the roll

00:34:435 (1) - if the reason you did 1/8 here is because the wub then don't because then you need to follow it to 00:34:778 - which at that time you're following violin

00:36:835 (3) - ctrl+g would give a better impression of looping movement as that's what you did at 00:37:350 (2,3) - , there's no point to make it different movement

01:06:664 (1) - Following the previous pattern 01:05:978 (1,2,1,2) - , this should have ctrl+g

01:02:893 (1,2) - following the fm, it should start at 01:02:807 instead. Also, I thought you said symmetry and stuff so 2 is better at https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10184955 (if you persist on keeping it at least blanket 01:02:550 (1) - 's head properly

00:41:293 (1,2) - you don't use 1/8 hold nor 1/4 spam?

01:51:235 (1,2) - funny how you feel concerned about the kick here when you don't during the rest of this part, resulting this two sliders the only different thing among 01:48:493 (1) - 01:49:864 (1) - 01:52:607 (1) - 01:53:978 (1) -

01:57:064 (1) - optional but since you did kiai burst here and there, giving one here won't hurt.

please don't bash me I have 26 children

add: 00:30:493 (2) - fix stack w
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Saturnalize wrote:

some stuffs hey ya!

00:13:521 (1) - instead of tilting the slider, why don't just create a fake stack? hmm fixed? i guess u mean stack them right

00:13:693 (2) - no whistle as no violin, use drum whistle if u wanna follow the roll set drum whistle

00:34:435 (1) - if the reason you did 1/8 here is because the wub then don't because then you need to follow it to 00:34:778 - which at that time you're following violin well, i can hear 1/8 there, try listen on 25% or 50%

00:36:835 (3) - ctrl+g would give a better impression of looping movement as that's what you did at 00:37:350 (2,3) - , there's no point to make it different movement ye ye!

01:06:664 (1) - Following the previous pattern 01:05:978 (1,2,1,2) - , this should have ctrl+g reformed after shiirn's mod

01:02:893 (1,2) - following the fm, it should start at 01:02:807 instead. Also, I thought you said symmetry and stuff so 2 is better at https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10184955 (if you persist on keeping it at least blanket 01:02:550 (1) - 's head properly sure!

00:41:293 (1,2) - you don't use 1/8 hold nor 1/4 spam? oh , right!

01:51:235 (1,2) - funny how you feel concerned about the kick here when you don't during the rest of this part, resulting this two sliders the only different thing among 01:48:493 (1) - 01:49:864 (1) - 01:52:607 (1) - 01:53:978 (1) - indeed, i understand after long talk with shiirn, reformed!

01:57:064 (1) - optional but since you did kiai burst here and there, giving one here won't hurt. done, also setup on harmonical, extra and insane diff

please don't bash me I have 26 children i'm gay

add: 00:30:493 (2) - fix stack w okay!
well thanks for the mod, i not a devil pls

Shiirn wrote:

Yes, if you've consistently represented that particular form of triple with a 1/4 slider in the past, and continue to do so in the future, without a good thematic reason to do so.

You already consistently represented those triples as three circles before that pattern, and use three circles after it as well.

There is no non-bullshit reason to force that pattern to use two 1/4 sliders for such a powerful triple that you have always previously and always done after.

Except, apparently, "Because I want to use a perfectly symmetrical pattern here, not one designed around being symmetrical with 2 circles instead of a 1/4 slider".




It took me less than a minute to come up with a replacement example for 01:32:721 (1,2) - . This is obviously not the potentially best one, as there are many you can consider, but it took less than a minute to come up with a way to potentially have a symmetrical pattern that follows the music.

I don't understand what's so hard to understand about this.
After this i fixed some things to capture that god triplets and other stuff, sorry for anything i don't get it right lol
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Fixed snapping in Extra and Insane. Good to go!
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we made some changes in extra/top diff for playabiility
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01:30:664 (1,2,3,4) - 01:32:035 (1,2,3,4) - please nooo, they just cause unreasonable reading problems, this kind of reading patterns isn't fun because it can be avoided by moving only 1 pixel, the movement doesn't even change, but it would be much easier to read
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Karen wrote:

01:30:664 (1,2,3,4) - 01:32:035 (1,2,3,4) - please nooo, they just cause unreasonable reading problems, this kind of reading patterns isn't fun because it can be avoided by moving only 1 pixel, the movement doesn't even change, but it would be much easier to read
aaaa hello, well.. I couldn't figure out the level of fun present. I think this is subjective, I mean, it depends a lot on how each player adapting, experiencing in this type of patterns/map/music.
Maybe it's difficult for someone in the first game, entry into this type of mapping/Maybe it's something easy for someone who already is accustomed to playing this type of mapping
Well, sorry but I did not know about this problem of reading, but referring to that, I put it due to the suggestion of a group, including those who mod on this map.

In a certain way, thanks for notice I will carry forward this type of suggestion in my next projects!
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unreasonable reading problems

g r a t z x d
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Loreley wrote:

unreasonable reading problems

g r a t z x d
dont bully me :c!!


thank you >.<
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Seguinte quem toma DQ nesse mapa vai votar no bolsonaro e é hetero conservador espancador de gay

congratz kal !
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perfectly stacked sliders along with spaced streams are pretty dumb to play anyway i dont know about fun but the point that karen mentioned is objective in both mapping/modding way?
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Delis wrote:

perfectly stacked sliders along with spaced streams are pretty dumb to play thanks.. -_ - anyway i dont know about fun but the point that karen mentioned is objective in both mapping/modding way?
maybe, about modding: i don't have much to say because, i just said above that, i got the feedback from the people, and that in the view of those involved a pattern in itself isn't unreadable, people recommend this form( mod suggestion) on this thread to keep okay (playable)
about mapping, i think doesn't have any aspect to making that pattern unreadable if see in editor, i mean, have many factors that make this pattern hmm.. readable like ar, bpm, perfect stack, non-overlap in previous/actual/next notes :?:|
well i think that's it
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nobody says the pattern is unreadable, it just only makes the section underwhelming when you unnecessarily map a section too reading heavy
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rip HD players
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Kisses wrote:

rip HD players
ssorry ;w; isn't my intention
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