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Shurelia

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Shurelia 2017-03-23T09:19:51+00:00

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IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2017-03-23T09:52:20+00:00

ganbatte

Shurelia

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Shurelia 2017-03-23T11:49:17+00:00

first mod before things got harder to be modded Xd

[GeneraL]

where's the tag for GD makers ?
you actually can just use "RURUTIA" as the artist name instead are her japanese name but both work as the official one so it's up to you to choose. Source : http://social.gust.co.jp/sophie/music/
Tags recommendation : gust , jrpg , koeitecmo, NISA
the kiai between easy and the other diffs are different. You shoud check it (I suggest to use the HS volume and kiai that I made on the Easy diff but it's up to you if you want to follow it or remove the things on the easy)

[Normal]

are you sure to not doing any HS on 00:00:257 - 00:15:921 - I really advide to HS this part too
00:41:585 (1,3) - touching on each other, do you think it'll be ok? There should be another alternative than this
01:21:669 (1) - you need to reduce the spinners sound at here since the current one is too loud to be listened.

[Feeder's Hard]

00:14:588 (2,3,5,6,7) - looks pretty similar on each other since both are stacked completly, this might confuse the hard players.
00:18:087 (2,3,5,6) - Same, prob this is your thing afterall
00:21:420 (5) - Probably should just stack this on 00:21:587 (6) - 's head instead the current one since 5 is a pretty strong thing and need some emphasize
00:27:920 (1) - A very strong sound, prob should put this on 00:28:253 (2) - 's head instead ? , You're gonna adjust 00:27:587 (6) - 's direction if you agree with this tho
00:56:585 (5) - uuuhh, you never done this kind of thing before , try 452|8 for a sweet looking?
Same HS suggestion on spinner on normal

[Insane]

00:06:922 (4) - prob you can try to extend this slider into the blue line? It still plays good imo
00:31:252 (2,3,4) - this gonna be something pretty unexpected cause of the visual distance that looks really similar on each other.

ayy

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2017-03-24T04:55:51+00:00

我草，剛剛改完名就知道它revive了

Mafumafu

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Mafumafu 2017-03-29T16:48:07+00:00

Hello! From my M4M queue!
My map for M4M: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/582957

[Easy]
00:16:921 (2,3,4) - You may consider forming up a triangle here: https://puu.sh/v2nLC/a91320d843.png
00:18:920 (4,1) - Anti-flow is not recommended in Easy. 01:00:585 (5,1) - Same.
00:45:585 (4,5) - Blanket

[Normal]
00:21:920 (1,2) - This visual spacing as well as the overlap make it look like 1/2 tbh
00:25:920 (1,2,3,4,5) - This may be too hard for a Normal diff, on both reading and stamania.
00:45:585 (1,2,1,2,3,1) - Same.
And there are more intensive 1/2 rhythms in a row.

So the problem lies in your imbalanced setting of spacing.

[Hard]
00:54:419 (4,5) - Jump here? Since you almost jump at every clap.
Adding some Kiai?

[Insane]
00:26:920 (4) - I guess this is 1/6
00:34:919 (4,5) - These 1/4 sliders are really overdosed for such a smooth part.
00:38:585 (1) - I guess 1/4 rhythm should be 00:38:752 (1) - instead?
00:42:252 (3,1,2) - It plays a bit weird. A loud clap was assigned smaller spacing than a way weaker sound.
01:16:835 (2) - Sounds quite overdosed.

Good luck!

Lavender

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Lavender 2017-03-29T20:18:40+00:00

Shurelia wrote:
first mod before things got harder to be modded Xd

[GeneraL]
where's the tag for GD makers ? Added
you actually can just use "RURUTIA" as the artist name instead are her japanese name but both work as the official one so it's up to you to choose. Source : http://social.gust.co.jp/sophie/music/ I'd keep it
Tags recommendation : gust , jrpg , koeitecmo, NISA Added.
the kiai between easy and the other diffs are different. You shoud check it (I suggest to use the HS volume and kiai that I made on the Easy diff but it's up to you if you want to follow it or remove the things on the easy) Added kiai.

[Normal]
are you sure to not doing any HS on 00:00:257 - 00:15:921 - I really advide to HS this part too I don't think it's a good idea to hs this part cuz it's very calm and quiet.
00:41:585 (1,3) - touching on each other, do you think it'll be ok? There should be another alternative than this I think this is ok.
01:21:669 (1) - you need to reduce the spinners sound at here since the current one is too loud to be listened. Fixed.

[Insane]
00:06:922 (4) - prob you can try to extend this slider into the blue line? It still plays good imo but it would ruin pattern
00:31:252 (2,3,4) - this gonna be something pretty unexpected cause of the visual distance that looks really similar on each other.
Just in editor, if you play it actually you would not have a problem

ayy

Regraz wrote:
Hello! From my M4M queue!
My map for M4M: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/582957 Done

[Normal]
00:21:920 (1,2) - This visual spacing as well as the overlap make it look like 1/2 tbh ur write, changed patterns here.
00:25:920 (1,2,3,4,5) - This may be too hard for a Normal diff, on both reading and stamania. Changed 4 to circle and it would be easier to read.
00:45:585 (1,2,1,2,3,1) - Same. Changed.
And there are more intensive 1/2 rhythms in a row.

So the problem lies in your imbalanced setting of spacing.
[Insane]
00:26:920 (4) - I guess this is 1/6 I'd gather more opinions about this.
00:34:919 (4,5) - These 1/4 sliders are really overdosed for such a smooth part. Changed.
00:38:585 (1) - I guess 1/4 rhythm should be 00:38:752 (1) - instead? 00:38:585 (1) - follows the main theme(flute?), and what your said is kick/snare, considering I followed main theme at 00:37:585 (4,5,6) - so I think keeping it would be a better choice.
00:42:252 (3,1,2) - It plays a bit weird. A loud clap was assigned smaller spacing than a way weaker sound. changed
01:16:835 (2) - Sounds quite overdosed. I think you could hear 1/4 bass sound here.

Good luck!

Thank you for modding!

Shurelia

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Shurelia 2017-04-10T14:22:55+00:00

Regraz wrote:
[Easy]
00:16:921 (2,3,4) - You may consider forming up a triangle here: https://puu.sh/v2nLC/a91320d843.png triangle'd
00:18:920 (4,1) - Anti-flow is not recommended in Easy. 01:00:585 (5,1) - Same. nerfed
00:45:585 (4,5) - Blanket killed the blanket

Thanks!
got some Tag conflict problems while checking aimods, don't forget to fix it , Lavender

also please rank this song ;w;

update

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Lavender

886 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Lavender 2017-04-15T10:37:08+00:00

Shurelia wrote:
also please rank this song ;w; I wanna rank this asap too if i don't have to deal with so much things irl

Updated Shuralia's diff.

Shurelia

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2,771 posts

Joined December 2013

Shurelia 2017-04-15T10:59:17+00:00

Aah, I see then.

Please take care of yourself at there.

CucumberCuc

1,316 posts

Joined January 2016

CucumberCuc 2017-04-24T18:28:11+00:00

Hi :3

[Hard]
add kiai
00:29:420 (5,1) i thinks it's far
00:42:585 (4,5) ^
00:46:585 (4) move right
01:02:085 (2) move left
01:04:585 (4) i think it's far

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2017-04-30T18:58:40+00:00

[General]

这hard综合难度挺高的，星数和normal差距也较大，spread会有一点点危险

[Easy]

00:07:922 - 00:08:255 - why ignore them
00:13:921 - this sound is important, better to make it clickable
00:14:921 - ^
00:15:254 (6) - better to use a 1/1 slider

[Normal]

低难度用这个堆叠系数不太合适啊……
00:41:585 (1,2,3) - 1稍微有些遮挡后面东西，低难度里这个不太合适，新手会容易看不清2是个滑条，把2跟3换个方向或者右移
00:47:585 (1,2) - 没叠好
01:00:585 (2,3) - 遮挡
01:01:585 (1,2) - 01:03:585 (1,2) - 01:04:585 (3,4) - 01:07:585 (1,2) - 01:12:585 (3,4) - 01:12:585 (3,4) - ^ 其实稍微调一点点就行

[Hard]

00:14:588 (2,3,5,6,7) - 这碰不太好看
00:44:085 (3,4,5) - 这种在hard里真挺过分的，尤其是这个堆叠系数，至少考虑加个nc

[Insane]

1/2完全重叠还能接受，1/4也这样大概会有点问题吧，尤其在insane
图本身没什么说

质量都没什么说但是总觉得很容易被搞事，如果运气不好

GL

Shurelia

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Shurelia 2017-05-01T13:15:03+00:00

Pata-Mon wrote:
[Easy]
00:07:922 - 00:08:255 - why ignore them I'm following the guitar's sound at here and wanted to give less dense clicking rhythms
00:13:921 - this sound is important, better to make it clickable sure
00:14:921 - ^ ues
00:15:254 (6) - better to use a 1/1 slider yes

Thank you

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Mei

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Joined March 2012

Mei 2017-06-09T15:34:38+00:00

债券按作品

=========
咕太久了，射点星代替好了

Last edited by Mei 2017-06-28T20:45:23+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Bekko

423 posts

Joined September 2014

Bekko 2017-06-12T20:04:18+00:00

QUEUEQEUEQUEQEUQEUQ

Shu's Easy

00:11:254 (1,4) - Slight overlap
00:23:587 (6,2) - Not sure about this overlap
01:09:585 (1,2) - blanket maybe?

Normal

00:26:920 (3,4,5) - Make it a little straighter?
01:15:585 (1,1) - blanket
01:19:585 (1,3) - slidertail for 01:20:585 (3) - isn't completly overlapping 01:19:585 (1) - slidertail

Karen's Hard

00:14:588 (2,3,5,6,7) - bacause 00:15:088 (5,6,7) - stacks then there is a small overlap with 00:14:588 (2,3) -
00:20:920 (4,6) - Blanket
00:28:253 (2,4) - ^ (a small one)
01:00:919 (5,6,1) - ^ (even smaller one)
01:20:585 (4) - NC?

I really like this map. Its fun to paly! god luck on your map! <3

Shurelia

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Joined December 2013

Shurelia 2017-06-13T01:07:35+00:00

danielexus wrote:
QUEUEQEUEQUEQEUQEUQ

Shu's Easy
00:11:254 (1,4) - Slight overlap fix
00:23:587 (6,2) - Not sure about this overlap did it intentionally but did some adjustments tho
01:09:585 (1,2) - blanket maybe? tried

thanks

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Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2017-06-19T17:53:16+00:00

囍

https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Standard_Ranking_Criteria

Rule wrote:
Normal
Rules
If stacks are used, Stack Leniency must be set high enough for 1/1 hitobjects to stack.

Hard
Rules
If stacks are used, Stack Leniency must be set high enough for 1/2 hitobjects to stack.

今天偶然看到，想起来这个令我印象深刻的n和h（毕竟没见过这sl的低难度

Lavender

886 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Lavender 2017-06-20T10:49:36+00:00

Fixed stack things, thank you!

jonathanlfj

Elite Mapper

2,568 posts

Joined February 2010

jonathanlfj 2017-06-27T00:31:31+00:00

[General]
00:11:254 - add a red line here with 5/4 time signature
00:12:921 - ^ with 3/4 time signature

[Shu's Easy]
00:04:589 (2) - spacing
00:46:919 (5) - since this runs parallel with 00:45:585 (4) a straight slider would be better http://puu.sh/wv2zH.jpg
01:15:585 (3,4) - the aesthetics here can be a bit better, maybe point 01:15:585 (3) in another direction?

[Normal]
00:25:920 (1,2) - Generally on Normals it is recommended to avoid big overlaps like this, since the slider is very short the player might get confused on how it is played. Since there are a lot of these you can raise the CS slightly (3.7) so that the sliders are more distinguishable

[Karen's Hard]
00:20:920 (4,5,6) - the way the music sounds here is very similar to 01:10:585 (1,2,3) and 01:18:585 (1,2,3); since you used anti-jumps in those sections consider using it here as well
00:39:252 (9) - slight spacing deviation from 00:38:585 (4), i think you meant for this pattern to have the same visual distance?

[Insane]
00:21:254 (7,8) - should silence the end on these
00:31:585 (3) - NC here instead of 00:31:086 (1), this way the 1/4 spacing will be more noticeable
01:01:919 (1) - remove NC, not sure why its needed here
01:10:585 (1,2,3) - silence the end on these as well
01:12:418 (4,1,2,3,4) - this doesn't play very well due to the sudden slowdown in a straight line, it would be great if 01:12:752 (2,3,4) was placed at a sharper angle to 01:12:418 (4,1)

yeah thats abt everything

Shurelia

Global Moderator

2,771 posts

Joined December 2013

Shurelia 2017-06-27T06:51:12+00:00

jonathanlfj wrote:
[Shu's Easy]
00:04:589 (2) - spacing yes
00:46:919 (5) - since this runs parallel with 00:45:585 (4) a straight slider would be better http://puu.sh/wv2zH.jpg agree
01:15:585 (3,4) - the aesthetics here can be a bit better, maybe point 01:15:585 (3) in another direction? rotated -45 degree

Renne

upda

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 49585
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 32585
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.9

[Metadata]
Title:Phronesis
TitleUnicode:Phronesis
Artist:RURUTIA
ArtistUnicode:ルルティア
Creator:Lavender
Version:Shu's Easy
Source:ソフィーのアトリエ ～不思議な本の錬金術士～
Tags:Atelier Sophie: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Book Opening gust jrpg koeitecmo NISA Shurelia Karen Kagamine Ren
BeatmapID:1247677
BeatmapSetID:542224

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HPDrainRate:2.5
CircleSize:2.5
OverallDifficulty:2.5
ApproachRate:3
SliderMultiplier:0.8
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Lavender

886 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Lavender 2017-06-27T11:57:13+00:00

All fixed, I'm waiting for Karen now

EDIT: Done
EDIT2: 01:12:752 (2,3,4,5,1) - moved this a bit in order to make it visually better

Last edited by Lavender 2017-06-29T10:36:06+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2017-06-27T17:17:51+00:00

All fixed, thanks for mods!!

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jonathanlfj

Elite Mapper

2,568 posts

Joined February 2010

jonathanlfj 2017-06-30T21:29:26+00:00

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Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2017-07-14T21:55:10+00:00

clearing up some "older" bubbles

general
01:25:419 - could probably be extended to ~01:25:419 - to end on the louder piano (+ whistle on end then)
01:21:585 (1) - why no finish :c

insane
cute stack leniency
first one threw me off a bit but then they were no problem at all
01:04:085 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this just felt really overdone in comparison to the whole map, spiking difficulty a bit fits fine here, but not this much

karen
00:07:422 (7,1) - either a triple or http://i.imgur.com/DaL3SXO.jpg would be nice here, current just seems so weird emphasis wise since it makes the quiet red tick stand out so much
00:35:085 (6) - jump on this seems a bit too much as the other sounds stand out way more, why not stack 00:34:919 (5,6) - ?
00:37:919 (2,5,6,7) - autostacking makes this a bit gross

normal
00:02:589 (2) - makes this part feel so dense, why not just a single circle

shurelia
00:13:254 (4,5,6) - so clumped and unintuitive to play why not something like http://i.imgur.com/k7wVqAV.jpg
00:20:920 (2,3,4) - really misleading for beginners since 2 leads so much into 4 and spacing doesn't help either

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Shurelia

Global Moderator

2,771 posts

Joined December 2013

Shurelia 2017-07-15T15:44:58+00:00

Lasse wrote:
00:13:254 (4,5,6) - so clumped and unintuitive to play why not something like http://i.imgur.com/k7wVqAV.jpg agreed
00:20:920 (2,3,4) - really misleading for beginners since 2 leads so much into 4 and spacing doesn't help either should look less confusing now

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danke!

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Lavender

886 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

Lavender 2017-07-15T16:39:04+00:00

Lasse wrote:
clearing up some "older" bubbles

general
01:25:419 - could probably be extended to ~01:25:419 - to end on the louder piano (+ whistle on end then)
01:21:585 (1) - why no finish :c

All Fixed.

insane
cute stack leniency
first one threw me off a bit but then they were no problem at all
01:04:085 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this just felt really overdone in comparison to the whole map, spiking difficulty a bit fits fine here, but not this much k, nerfed this

normal
00:02:589 (2) - makes this part feel so dense, why not just a single circle cuz it would ignore the vocal at slidertail, 1/2 slider here is fine i guess

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