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lol taking this down as requested
Topic Starter
Fixed the whatever happened to the stack thing in meeps diffOkorin wrote:
lol taking this down as requested
[mochi]
00:17:625 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - this is a kind of weird representation of what's happening, the melody is strongest and you follow like half of it, i think a rhythm like http://i.imgur.com/gLFF9TK.png would represent the song way better
00:21:187 (2,3,4) - 00:27:187 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:33:187 (2,3,4) - 00:39:187 (2,3,4,5) - fundamentally all of these sections are the same thing and you do the same thing twice and different things 3 times in them and i just don't see how / why you'd need 3 differently intense variations to represent the same thing, especially the most intense one being in the second spot seems weird.
would either make 00:39:187 (2,3,4,5) - have more circles or 00:27:187 (2,3,4,5,6) - less
[hb]
00:18:187 (3,4) - switching from melody to whatever is on 4 is kinda weird, would see if http://i.imgur.com/ySyYD49.png or http://i.imgur.com/fB1UcZJ.png work better for rhythm here
01:17:625 (2) - having one of these vocals be passive is kinda odd (the one on the sliderend) considering how you did the rest i think that should have a circle
01:22:687 (2,3) - these look like they're supposed to be symmetrical but aren't
00:17:625 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - this is a kind of weird representation of what's happening, the melody is strongest and you follow like half of it, i think a rhythm like http://i.imgur.com/gLFF9TK.png would represent the song way better
00:21:187 (2,3,4) - 00:27:187 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:33:187 (2,3,4) - 00:39:187 (2,3,4,5) - fundamentally all of these sections are the same thing and you do the same thing twice and different things 3 times in them and i just don't see how / why you'd need 3 differently intense variations to represent the same thing, especially the most intense one being in the second spot seems weird.
would either make 00:39:187 (2,3,4,5) - have more circles or 00:27:187 (2,3,4,5,6) - less
[hb]
00:18:187 (3,4) - switching from melody to whatever is on 4 is kinda weird, would see if http://i.imgur.com/ySyYD49.png or http://i.imgur.com/fB1UcZJ.png work better for rhythm here
01:17:625 (2) - having one of these vocals be passive is kinda odd (the one on the sliderend) considering how you did the rest i think that should have a circle
01:22:687 (2,3) - these look like they're supposed to be symmetrical but aren't
Topic Starter
Made easy diff less object heavy and changed a couple of patterns in top diff (from IRC w/ Okorin) (i lost the log 
)
)Okorin wrote:
[mochi]
00:17:625 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - this is a kind of weird representation of what's happening, the melody is strongest and you follow like half of it, i think a rhythm like http://i.imgur.com/gLFF9TK.png would represent the song way better i dont think it's a problem to have 00:18:187 (3) - representing the music when it's also a 1/1 instrument. the one you show it's just a variation of another rhythm that work imo
00:21:187 (2,3,4) - 00:27:187 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:33:187 (2,3,4) - 00:39:187 (2,3,4,5) - fundamentally all of these sections are the same thing and you do the same thing twice and different things 3 times in them and i just don't see how / why you'd need 3 differently intense variations to represent the same thing, especially the most intense one being in the second spot seems weird. i dont see the reason why i need to make things exactly the same though, well its just a normal vocal song with a similiar phase without special instrument, so why ?
would either make 00:39:187 (2,3,4,5) - have more circles or 00:27:187 (2,3,4,5,6) - less tbh either deleting notes on the first one or changing 00:39:750 (5) - into notes would totally ruin the flow i wanted to make, would be good if you can recommend me some good patterns then since i really like the way they were made
fixed all
@log you should recopy hitsounds for me idk whats changed lul
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@log you should recopy hitsounds for me idk whats changed lul
oh @mochi: 00:17:625 (1) - main reason why i broght this up is that having nothing to click on 00:17:812 - feels super weird
and for 00:27:187 (2,3,4,5,6) - what was mainly bothering me was that this gets more clicking than the rest and seems kinda random as a result, either way doing something like 00:39:187 (2,3,4,5) - or vice versa would be less random
and for 00:27:187 (2,3,4,5,6) - what was mainly bothering me was that this gets more clicking than the rest and seems kinda random as a result, either way doing something like 00:39:187 (2,3,4,5) - or vice versa would be less random
I did not felt this random. I feel like 00:18:187 - is the most important note in this section, so slider tail in 00:17:812 - does not feel bad for me.Okorin wrote:
oh @mochi: 00:17:625 (1) - main reason why i broght this up is that having nothing to click on 00:17:812 - feels super weird
But! yes in 00:37:687 - , because you were following the flute before, and not here (and here is not a voice to support the slider head neither).
Please, consider this:
Okorin wrote:
oh @mochi: 00:17:625 (1) - main reason why i broght this up is that having nothing to click on 00:17:812 - feels super weird i agreed with erunamo jazz here
and for 00:27:187 (2,3,4,5,6) - what was mainly bothering me was that this gets more clicking than the rest and seems kinda random as a result, either way doing something like 00:39:187 (2,3,4,5) - or vice versa would be less random
i did something at 00:26:625 (1,2,3,4,5) - so the notes quantity could be less intense along the part, that's allErunamoJAZZ wrote:
I did not felt this random. I feel like 00:18:187 - is the most important note in this section, so slider tail in 00:17:812 - does not feel bad for me.Okorin wrote:
oh @mochi: 00:17:625 (1) - main reason why i broght this up is that having nothing to click on 00:17:812 - feels super weird
But! yes in 00:37:687 - , because you were following the flute before, and not here (and here is not a voice to support the slider head neither).
Please, consider this: there's also an instrument here 00:37:875 (4,6) - played which worth the emphasizing so covering the flutes with slider ends here inst a bad idea imo, i did so at 00:40:125 (1) - and even skipping it the next 00:40:687 (2) -
no more netpicky stuff pls, thanks
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Topic Starter
Updated, should be all good now
seems like everything has been properly addressed, so let's give it another try
This song takes me back to 2012 (back when I mapped this song).
Good luck for heart ^-^
Good luck for heart ^-^
wew I guess I'm late
Good luck then~
Good luck then~
ya sure
Topic Starter
yeeey, take 2
I'm sorry, but this is excessive. In less than 2/10ths of a second, you make the player go almost entirely across the screen, with AR10 and OD10. No, this is not okay. I get that this is 178bpm with a relatively low SV, but that still doesn't mean you should you 10+ DS. I can't even remember seeing that outside of VERY slow songs or TAG maps. This is neither, and considering the sound mapped, it makes no sense when compared to the next combo. So, you made a jump with less than a 1/10th of a second gap that large because...? This is a jump all the way across the screen with a comfy 84ms to react with. There's no possible musical justification for this. This is overmapping. WAY overmapping. There is NOTHING warranting this, considering how tame the riffs here are. This is many things: Overmapped, ugly, and needless. I'm listening to the same instruments as you, and nothing is there that warrants you doing this with such distance. Okay, that part of the song is barely of any note whatsoever. Stop putting in these jumps just because you feel like it. This is just a mess. There's a big difference making compact streams and basically testing the limits of the stack leniency. This looks absolutely terrible. Clean it up a bit. These are very clearly overmapped. Disgustingly so. Same deal. Just because a computer can flawlessly do it does not mean you should slap it everywhere. I am convinced you did this solely to bump up SR. There is never any reason to do crap like this. Nothing musically, especially. Same deal. Same deal. Same deal. This part is so tame, and yet you act like you're mapping speedcore. Stop doing ridiculous things just to raise SR! Same deal. Again, stop taking tame parts and acting like they can justify obscene jumps. This is the simplest chord, and you put a jump clear across the screen for no reason other than the fact that you could. Stop with EVERYTHING like this. Not only are none of these called for, but the whole thing looks like a mess. Same deal. You can at least try and make these presentable. This is REALLY bad. Stop doing this. Make actual patterns instead of deliberate raises of SR. Same deal. This is an awful design. Fix it. You did this for SR. I heard the music. You did this just to increase the SR. Nothing here has any redeeming value. Redo it all. All you did here was put down notes on totally random areas. Gut this. I'm not joking. This is the absolute worst pattern you have EVER done. This is the epitome of overmapping, and you know it! The note progression is not that overly dramatic. This jump is just atrocious. You're rolling through streams, and then you decide a jump with nearly a DS of 12 is needed. Revolting. Congrats, you made a jump with 24.16 DS just because you could. Most troll maps I have don't come close to that. This is vile. Stop doing these things. You did the same thing here. What is wrong with you?
Finally done with that piece of worthless junk. Crap, Mazzerin, when you started making things like Those whom from the Heavens came and The Deceit/The Violation, I actually started getting my hopes up that you were finally going to break out of your terrible Vektor and Apparition stage and start cranking out truly admirable maps. Even though Swamphell raised a red flag or two, I still had high hopes. And then this self-indulgent pretentious abomination gets vomitted onto the site. This is not only your worst map, but possibly the worst map I have ever seen. Why? Others were bad as satire, ignorance, age, or inexperience. You qualify for none of these categories, you have no excuse. Believe me, I have nothing against heavy metal, be it thrash, black, or death metal. And I have no problem with someone in the osu community championing the genre as a flagship of broadening horizons. What I do have a problem with is that you, the person championing it, have absolutely no respect for the music or its structure. At the slightest strum of a guitar or hit of a snare drum, you are more than happy to start disregarding the music and just throwing ugly and pointless jumps where you just make the distance and position anywhere you feel like, no matter how awful the end result is. This vulgar excuse for a map reeks of every stupid and arrogant Mazzerism the community has had to bear witness to: Extreme jumps with no musical reasoning, sky high DS at random times, streams that just decide to jump to some random part of the playing field with no warning, buckshot spread patterns with no cohesive structure, streams that space out to absurd degrees, rampant abuse of SV changes and BPM modification to cover up lazy mapping, slider jumps that clearly are just cases of Ctrl+H and Ctrl+J abuse, and worst of all, using the music genre as your own little shield to justify every little moment of "I map like this because fuck you, I'm Mazzerin" you can stuff in your pathetic and self-subservient maps. Stop using songs as canvases for your abhorrent "artistry", stop using your cult of personality to force your lazy work on others, and stop thinking that maps are good just because a computer designed to perfectly perform with flaw can manage to beat it.
Finally done with that piece of worthless junk. Crap, Mazzerin, when you started making things like Those whom from the Heavens came and The Deceit/The Violation, I actually started getting my hopes up that you were finally going to break out of your terrible Vektor and Apparition stage and start cranking out truly admirable maps. Even though Swamphell raised a red flag or two, I still had high hopes. And then this self-indulgent pretentious abomination gets vomitted onto the site. This is not only your worst map, but possibly the worst map I have ever seen. Why? Others were bad as satire, ignorance, age, or inexperience. You qualify for none of these categories, you have no excuse. Believe me, I have nothing against heavy metal, be it thrash, black, or death metal. And I have no problem with someone in the osu community championing the genre as a flagship of broadening horizons. What I do have a problem with is that you, the person championing it, have absolutely no respect for the music or its structure. At the slightest strum of a guitar or hit of a snare drum, you are more than happy to start disregarding the music and just throwing ugly and pointless jumps where you just make the distance and position anywhere you feel like, no matter how awful the end result is. This vulgar excuse for a map reeks of every stupid and arrogant Mazzerism the community has had to bear witness to: Extreme jumps with no musical reasoning, sky high DS at random times, streams that just decide to jump to some random part of the playing field with no warning, buckshot spread patterns with no cohesive structure, streams that space out to absurd degrees, rampant abuse of SV changes and BPM modification to cover up lazy mapping, slider jumps that clearly are just cases of Ctrl+H and Ctrl+J abuse, and worst of all, using the music genre as your own little shield to justify every little moment of "I map like this because fuck you, I'm Mazzerin" you can stuff in your pathetic and self-subservient maps. Stop using songs as canvases for your abhorrent "artistry", stop using your cult of personality to force your lazy work on others, and stop thinking that maps are good just because a computer designed to perfectly perform with flaw can manage to beat it.