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Polished some of the aesthetics
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Title:Cookie-Butter-Choco-Cookie
TitleUnicode:クッキー・バター・チョコ・クッキー
Artist:Elmo and Cookie Monster
ArtistUnicode:エルモとクッキーモンスター
Creator:Monstrata
Version:Foxy's Hard
Source:セサミストリート
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cant wait for my first 300pp play
checked and fixed some stuff like metadata error
and mapset looks fine now
and mapset looks fine now
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need reference for the artist, thanks
Topic Starter
I thought we discussed the metadata when the map was originally bubbled. Anyways,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMjdkEA9jM8
Taken from here. In the video they sing the song twice, once by themselves, and once with Pikotaro. I picked the first version before Pikotaro showed up so thats why artist is just エルモとクッキーモンスター. Second version includes some speech by Pikotaro, also the chorus is way messier lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMjdkEA9jM8
Taken from here. In the video they sing the song twice, once by themselves, and once with Pikotaro. I picked the first version before Pikotaro showed up so thats why artist is just エルモとクッキーモンスター. Second version includes some speech by Pikotaro, also the chorus is way messier lol.
where's the discussion, was i involved lol
Topic Starter
No it was just me messaging you in forum pm lol. I can't find it so rip D:
Actually, now that I think about it, it was probably alacat I was messaging, since the source was completely in Japanese lmao. :S
Actually, now that I think about it, it was probably alacat I was messaging, since the source was completely in Japanese lmao. :S
what i think is PIKOTARO composes the song, that's the reason why he should be in the artist, no matter who does the vocal part
and why is it and instead of to in the romanised artist
and why is it and instead of to in the romanised artist
Topic Starter
Okay discussed some stuff with KwaN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMjdkEA9jM8 is a video, not the song. Therefore there is no "official" song metadata. The video contains 3 and a half minutes of Pikotaro teaching Elmo and Cookie Monster how to dance, so it wouldn't be fair to say video = song metadata unless you think the song metadata should include the 3.5 minutes of speech.
There are two versions of the song, one that begins at the start, and another that begins on https://youtu.be/DMjdkEA9jM8?t=3m41s
The first version is just Elmo and Cookie Monster (hence the title), and the second version is Pikotaro + Elmo and Cookie Monster. I mapped the first one.
For romanized artist/title I used "and" because the rest of the artist/title is in English. "Elmo to Cookie Monster" sounds like it is english too, I don't think people will read the "to" and think it's a Japanese particle given the context of the song title + artist so thats why I went with "and" instead. (People will read this as "Elmo two Cookie Monster" instead of "Elmo toh Cookie Monster" unless they know the Japanese context). "to" and "and" are interchangeable in Japanese transliteration when the rest of the title is translated to English, so I picked the second instead.
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In any case, currently, we are quoting wikipedia for reference on "modified hepburn romanization" methods. However wikipedia is not a good source to begin with, nor is the wikipedia article helpful in what the issue is here (English transliteration). From what I know about modified hepburn, studying the actual system, (a summary can be found on: https://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/japanes ... 111215.pdf though the full system is in book form) the romanization system is actually meant as a phonetic transcription method.
For example, if you didn't know the Japanese katakana/hiragana alphabet, then there is absolutely no way you can read"エルモとクッキーモンスタ". Romanization is actually supposed to tell you how to pronounce it so even if you can't read Japanese, you can still speak it. Therefore one of the correct modified hepburn romanizations is: "Erumo to Kukkii Monsta" (There are multiple ways to write クッキー too, Kuki, Kuuki, Kuukii,
Admittedly, because there are different romanization systems, this ends up being "one" of the methods for romanization. The other being English transliteration or "translation" which we use for a lot of maps too (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/53857) Remote Control instead of Remo Con. With this method, what is important is language consistency. エルモとクッキーモンスタ is fully Japanese, "Elmo and Cookie Monster" is fully English. "Elmo to Cookie Monster" is English and Japanese so part of the system is romanized and part of it is transliterated. Whichever method you investigate, both would ultimately say that this romanization result is incorrect (Unless there is an official source / preferred romanization.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMjdkEA9jM8 is a video, not the song. Therefore there is no "official" song metadata. The video contains 3 and a half minutes of Pikotaro teaching Elmo and Cookie Monster how to dance, so it wouldn't be fair to say video = song metadata unless you think the song metadata should include the 3.5 minutes of speech.
There are two versions of the song, one that begins at the start, and another that begins on https://youtu.be/DMjdkEA9jM8?t=3m41s
The first version is just Elmo and Cookie Monster (hence the title), and the second version is Pikotaro + Elmo and Cookie Monster. I mapped the first one.
For romanized artist/title I used "and" because the rest of the artist/title is in English. "Elmo to Cookie Monster" sounds like it is english too, I don't think people will read the "to" and think it's a Japanese particle given the context of the song title + artist so thats why I went with "and" instead. (People will read this as "Elmo two Cookie Monster" instead of "Elmo toh Cookie Monster" unless they know the Japanese context). "to" and "and" are interchangeable in Japanese transliteration when the rest of the title is translated to English, so I picked the second instead.
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In any case, currently, we are quoting wikipedia for reference on "modified hepburn romanization" methods. However wikipedia is not a good source to begin with, nor is the wikipedia article helpful in what the issue is here (English transliteration). From what I know about modified hepburn, studying the actual system, (a summary can be found on: https://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/japanes ... 111215.pdf though the full system is in book form) the romanization system is actually meant as a phonetic transcription method.
For example, if you didn't know the Japanese katakana/hiragana alphabet, then there is absolutely no way you can read"エルモとクッキーモンスタ". Romanization is actually supposed to tell you how to pronounce it so even if you can't read Japanese, you can still speak it. Therefore one of the correct modified hepburn romanizations is: "Erumo to Kukkii Monsta" (There are multiple ways to write クッキー too, Kuki, Kuuki, Kuukii,
Admittedly, because there are different romanization systems, this ends up being "one" of the methods for romanization. The other being English transliteration or "translation" which we use for a lot of maps too (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/53857) Remote Control instead of Remo Con. With this method, what is important is language consistency. エルモとクッキーモンスタ is fully Japanese, "Elmo and Cookie Monster" is fully English. "Elmo to Cookie Monster" is English and Japanese so part of the system is romanized and part of it is transliterated. Whichever method you investigate, both would ultimately say that this romanization result is incorrect (Unless there is an official source / preferred romanization.)
To be fair, I'd support Monstrata in this case. PIKOTARO might be the composer, but the actual performers are Elmo and Cookie Monster. As long as PIKOTARO is in the tags, we are all cool.
Not that my opinion matters much, but I thought I should post it anyway.
Not that my opinion matters much, but I thought I should post it anyway.
I care about you, BakariBakari wrote:
To be fair, I'd support Monstrata in this case. PIKOTARO might be the composer, but the actual performers are Elmo and Cookie Monster. As long as PIKOTARO is in the tags, we are all cool.
Not that my opinion matters much, but I thought I should post it anyway.
I care about you too, Bakari
alacat found out Elmo and Cookie Monster being in the video description, so i guess metadata issue of this map is settled
1st: holy shit what a shit show
2nd: defenitly one of your worst maps, it is pretty boring to play. I get the feeling this was just mapped for the pp (not that I would complain tho)
2nd: defenitly one of your worst maps, it is pretty boring to play. I get the feeling this was just mapped for the pp (not that I would complain tho)
Nah, it was mapped for the dead meme. Just like there are many remakes of PPAP out there, there are many gd's in this spread - like, you only need 4/5 in a spread, not bloody 19 :/napie09 wrote:
1st: holy shit what a shit show
2nd: defenitly one of your worst maps, it is pretty boring to play. I get the feeling this was just mapped for the pp (not that I would complain tho)
Actually, that should be CCBC (Cookie-Butter-Choco-Cookie) like in youtube title of Sesame Street Japan channel?
Topic Starter
No
Hey,
please prevent this map from getting into the ranked section.
top diff jump spacing is out of the ordinary. this is the most simple song and on only 136 bpm
why the fuck do I see so many braindead cross-screen jumps in this map
what actually went through your head when you were placing those notes.
I get it that you might want that sweet pp-->popularity, but this goes far beyond the borders
some songs aren't meant to be 4.5+*, they simply can't.
disqualify this piece of trash and try to get actual quality maps that make sense ranked instead of filth.
please prevent this map from getting into the ranked section.
top diff jump spacing is out of the ordinary. this is the most simple song and on only 136 bpm
why the fuck do I see so many braindead cross-screen jumps in this map
what actually went through your head when you were placing those notes.
I get it that you might want that sweet pp-->popularity, but this goes far beyond the borders
some songs aren't meant to be 4.5+*, they simply can't.
disqualify this piece of trash and try to get actual quality maps that make sense ranked instead of filth.
DDMythical
Hey,Swerro wrote:
Hey,
please prevent this map from getting into the ranked section.
top diff jump spacing is out of the ordinary. this is the most simple song and on only 136 bpm
why the fuck do I see so many braindead cross-screen jumps in this map
what actually went through your head when you were placing those notes.
I get it that you might want that sweet pp-->popularity, but this goes far beyond the borders
some songs aren't meant to be 4.5+*, they simply can't.
disqualify this piece of trash and try to get actual quality maps that make sense ranked instead of filth.
delet this.
Quality never mattered, especially since the QAT got nerfed.Swerro wrote:
Hey,
please prevent this map from getting into the ranked section.
top diff jump spacing is out of the ordinary. this is the most simple song and on only 136 bpm
why the fuck do I see so many braindead cross-screen jumps in this map
what actually went through your head when you were placing those notes.
I get it that you might want that sweet pp-->popularity, but this goes far beyond the borders
some songs aren't meant to be 4.5+*, they simply can't.
disqualify this piece of trash and try to get actual quality maps that make sense ranked instead of filth.
Ranking criteria just says it needs to match the song, and be playable. If you meet these very low standards, you get ranked.
Monstrata is stretching the boundaries of what the players perceive as the "ranking criteria", and not actually being unrankable.
But monstrata why u haf 2 do this. Make gud maps pls.