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M2U - A Bella! (feat. Lucy) [Taiko|CatchTheBeat]

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Chromoxx

neonat wrote:

Chromoxx' Muzukashii

00:48:756 (166) - remove the finish, give this beat less impact, the music cuts short abruptly here as well nice idea
01:03:381 - just feels like something is missing here, like a k having an unusual gap here puts more emphasis on 01:03:568 -
01:32:443 (328,329,330,331,332,333,334) - I really think 01:33:193 (332) - should be d instead, it has that deep bass sound there. Though more of just a suggestion that could be another variation, 01:33:006 (331) - could follow the vocals and go k for a d k d k d k d its kinda more of a higher sound imo, also the color change to k emphasizes it well enough imo
01:40:318 (366) - seems more related to 01:40:131 (365) than 01:40:506 (367) - d instead of k d d k k d d K feels too boring for the music here imo

Chromoxx' Oni

00:54:943 (261,262) - given how big the drop down to 00:55:131 is I really think it should be k d, something like 01:41:443 (520,521) puts more emphasis on the next d and it doesn't have the weird bass sounds that the other one has
00:57:662 (278) - don't think this is necessary, removing this, there is nothing really to fill 00:57:662 to would feel a bit empty and also make the ddk seem a bit too repetitive imo
01:08:724 - feels left out with nothing here, it's like a kdkdk pattern added k

Chromoxx' Inner Oni

00:33:193 (169,170,171) - just wondering why this is as such and 00:25:787 (125,126) - as well when it is similar music section going for progressive flow here
01:28:131 (553) - change to k? Rising up from 01:27:943 (551) - but now they are both d the color change to d adds more emphasis on the vocal here
01:43:224 (679) - change to d too i want to isolate the vocals at 01:43:318 (680,682) - more, so no change


Good Luck~
heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

@zirox it's basically changing 2 small things so can u do that for me pls? (just click on the green ones and apply as i stated :p)
Topic Starter
ZiRoX
Updated!
celerih
Hey there! I'm also mapping this for std, and I looked for some metadata. I thought I could share it with you here today, since ya know, better fix it now that with a KwaN hammer later. Artist is fine, but the other fields need a bit of fixing

[
Metadata
]
  1. Title : A Bella! (feat. Lucy)
  2. Tags : HIGH5 Drugstep drug step square musiq original soundtrack
  3. Sources for metadata :
    http://square-musiq.com/DISCOGRAPHY/view/118085
    http://vgmdb.net/album/55727
    https://soundcloud.com/m2ustudio/a-bella

My problem with using A Bella ! as the title (since it comes from the soundcloud, thus is a valid source) is that m2u has already put incorrect titles on his soundcloud, see H.O.W.ling that was put as Howling, so it would be best to put the original soundtrack metadata instead (plus it credits vocalist directly which is nice). Still this is up to you
Absolute Zero
Short mod.

[Cup]
00:36:568 (2) - I think this follows the music more accurately if it's two hitcircles on the start and ends of the sliders instead. (Small comment).
01:06:006 (1) - More movement here? Imo for a strong wub there's like no motion required at all.
01:23:068 (2) - It might be nice to tilt this slider a little bit more to highlight the vocal spiking upwards in pitch. If you choose to follow this, you'll probably have to move 01:24:006 (1) leftwards to accommodate for the distance increase.
01:48:006 (1,2,1,2) - The pattern here would honestly feel more nice as active as 01:54:006 (1,2,1,2), since the two are pitch equivalent and energy equivalent.

[Salad]
00:08:443 (3,1) - I feel this dash is a little strong for the introduction. Lower it, please.
00:13:506 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think this would work better as (1,2) and (3,4) facing opposite directions (demonstrated below).


[Hyperion's Platter]
00:35:443 (4,5) - Lower distancing. The extra movement that's not a hyper is a little bit surprising.
00:36:568 (4,5) - Lower distancing--head of (5) is close to the end of the screen.

[Rain]
00:30:006 (1) - I think this slider could have a little more emphasis somehow, since the instrumentals definitely change in the background there.
00:51:756 (3,4) - I'd rather have a back-forth pattern with this music like at 01:26:256 (3,4).

[Deif's Overdose]
Don't have many major problems.
Topic Starter
ZiRoX
Everything applied on my diffs. Will change metadata for the next update.
JBHyperion

Absolute Zero wrote:

[Hyperion's Platter]
00:35:443 (4,5) - Lower distancing. The extra movement that's not a hyper is a little bit surprising. Reduced a little
00:36:568 (4,5) - Lower distancing--head of (5) is close to the end of the screen. it's nearly 30px away, I think this is fine
Thanks for the suggestions! Also fixed a hyper into possible antiflow to be safe.

Platter
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 37318
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

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DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

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Title:A Bella !
TitleUnicode:A Bella !
Artist:M2U
ArtistUnicode:M2U
Creator:ZiRoX
Version:Hyperion's Platter
Source:하이파이브
Tags:PNIX Games JBHyperion Deif Chromoxx
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Topic Starter
ZiRoX
Whoops, forgot to post. Updated with JBH's changes and metadata posted by celerih.
neonat
ok
Ascendance
deif's overdose could really do with ar9.2-.3 for readability

also some small things for his diff:

  1. 00:18:568 (2) - plays like a straight slider in-game, a more defined curve would be really nice
  2. 00:20:256 (7,8) - distance between these two is pretty large, try moving 00:20:631 (8,9) - to x:306
  3. 00:48:756 (1,2) - coming out of a high impact section, this could be pretty cramped, 00:48:943 (2) - x:170 should help that out
  4. 01:03:006 (1,2,3,4) - idk what it is about this but I miss a lot of times here. Maybe it's the distance between them? idk.
  5. 01:18:006 (1,2,3,4) - these could do with a few grids of reduction between them, it's pretty hard to catch them all consistently without holding dash the entire time
also just saying when you increase SV for notes like 01:22:131 (4) - and then make them play like normal sliders it kind of defeats the point. I would have liked to see more dynamic usages of the SV increases for things like these

still, really cool difficulty gl!
Deif
Ascendance
deif's overdose could really do with ar9.2-.3 for readability (Already tested other options in the past but 9.1 was the one I felt more comfortable with)

also some small things for his diff:

  1. 00:18:568 (2) - plays like a straight slider in-game, a more defined curve would be really nice (Tried some sharper shapes, though the droplet generation won't create a curvy slider as intended. Still, it should be improved)
  2. 00:20:256 (7,8) - distance between these two is pretty large, try moving 00:20:631 (8,9) - to x:306 (Done)
  3. 00:48:756 (1,2) - coming out of a high impact section, this could be pretty cramped, 00:48:943 (2) - x:170 should help that out (Done)
  4. 01:03:006 (1,2,3,4) - idk what it is about this but I miss a lot of times here. Maybe it's the distance between them? idk. (I dunno... Never had major issues performing this pattern. It's indeed a big distance which would need either sharp short movements or total zig-zags, but both techniques should work)
  5. 01:18:006 (1,2,3,4) - these could do with a few grids of reduction between them, it's pretty hard to catch them all consistently without holding dash the entire time (Tuned down the distances a bit)
also just saying when you increase SV for notes like 01:22:131 (4) - and then make them play like normal sliders it kind of defeats the point. I would have liked to see more dynamic usages of the SV increases for things like these (In this case, the slider used to be more curvy on previous versions but people complained about it because it created a way-too-edgy curve and the droplets were allegedly hard to catch. Wanna keep it like this to avoid further complains)

still, really cool difficulty gl!
Thanks for your imput!

@ZiRoX: Just realised none of the catch diffs have custom combo colors. Mind adding some before it gets qualified?

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Title:A Bella! (feat. Lucy)
TitleUnicode:A Bella! (feat. Lucy)
Artist:M2U
ArtistUnicode:M2U
Creator:ZiRoX
Version:Deif's Overdose
Source:하이파이브
Tags:PNIX Games HIGH5 Drugstep drug step square musiq original soundtrack JBHyperion Deif Chromoxx
BeatmapID:1147348
BeatmapSetID:541101

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:4.2
OverallDifficulty:9.1
ApproachRate:9.1
SliderMultiplier:2.5
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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320,192,63568,2,0,P|272:208|320:304,1,187.500007152558,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,304,64131,2,0,P|32:240|32:160,1,140.625005364418,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,64506,6,0,L|96:192,2,93.7500035762788,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
448,112,65068,2,0,P|480:144|448:272,1,187.500007152558,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
451,269,65466,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,192,65631,1,4,0:0:0:0:
304,192,65654,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,192,65818,1,4,0:0:0:0:
400,192,65841,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,272,66006,5,4,0:0:0:0:
144,272,66029,2,0,P|176:224|144:112,1,175.781256705523,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,96,66474,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,96,66568,2,0,L|464:96,1,125,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,144,66802,1,0,3:0:0:0:
464,192,66849,1,0,3:0:0:0:
432,224,66896,1,0,3:0:0:0:
384,224,66943,1,8,0:0:0:0:
144,192,67131,1,4,0:0:0:0:
304,192,67318,1,8,0:0:0:0:
48,288,67506,6,0,L|176:288,1,125,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
16,240,67881,1,8,0:0:0:0:
304,240,68068,2,0,L|368:208,1,62.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,240,68256,2,0,L|144:240,1,125,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,240,68631,2,0,L|496:208,1,62.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,192,68818,2,0,L|240:160,1,62.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,192,69006,6,0,P|464:128|432:96,1,125,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,96,69287,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,96,69381,2,0,L|112:96,1,62.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,96,69568,2,0,P|384:112|384:256,1,250,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,256,70131,2,0,L|32:128,1,125,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,192,70506,6,0,L|480:192,1,125,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,192,70787,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,192,70881,1,8,0:0:0:0:
42,163,70974,1,0,0:0:0:0:
28,104,71068,1,8,0:0:0:0:
63,54,71162,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,48,71256,2,0,L|416:48,1,125,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,48,71537,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,320,71631,1,6,0:0:0:0:
125,270,71725,1,0,0:0:0:0:
139,211,71819,1,8,0:0:0:0:
193,183,71912,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,192,72006,6,0,L|352:304,1,125,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,72381,2,0,L|176:64,1,125,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,192,72756,2,0,L|304:80,1,125,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,192,73131,2,0,L|128:320,1,125,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,192,73506,5,4,0:0:0:0:
336,192,73693,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,192,73881,1,2,0:0:0:0:
304,192,74068,2,0,L|192:256,1,125,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,192,74443,1,8,0:0:0:0:
196,130,74631,2,0,L|304:192,1,125,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,192,75006,5,4,0:0:0:0:
176,192,75193,1,2,0:0:0:0:
32,240,75381,1,2,0:0:0:0:
160,240,75568,2,0,P|256:224|240:96,1,250,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,112,76131,2,0,L|144:224,1,125,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,192,76506,6,0,L|432:192,1,31.25,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,256,76693,2,0,L|144:256,1,31.25,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,256,76881,2,0,L|432:256,1,31.25,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,77068,2,0,P|64:176|48:48,1,250,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,80,77631,2,0,L|432:80,1,125,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,80,77912,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,78006,6,0,L|64:256,1,125,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,272,78381,2,0,L|144:336,1,125,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,78756,2,0,L|448:128,1,125,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,112,79131,2,0,L|368:48,1,125,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
52,191,79506,6,0,L|160:128,1,125,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,79881,1,2,0:0:0:0:
160,256,80068,2,0,L|48:192,1,125,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,192,80443,1,8,0:0:0:0:
52,191,80631,2,0,L|160:128,1,125,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,81006,5,4,0:0:0:0:
288,192,81193,2,0,L|400:256,1,125,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,192,81568,2,0,P|112:208|48:320,1,250,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,272,82131,2,0,P|432:176|336:80,1,250,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,82506,5,4,0:0:0:0:
432,192,82693,1,10,3:1:0:0:
64,192,82881,1,4,3:1:0:0:
320,256,83068,2,0,P|464:224|464:16,1,375,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,96,83443,2,0,P|48:224|112:288,1,250,4|8,1:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,352,83912,1,0,0:0:0:0:
496,192,84006,6,0,P|464:304|288:320,1,312.5,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
16,192,84568,2,0,P|48:304|224:320,1,312.5,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,192,85131,2,0,P|496:112|448:48,1,156.25,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,85506,5,2,0:0:0:0:
336,192,85693,1,2,0:0:0:0:
176,192,85881,2,0,L|96:192,1,78.125,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,86068,2,0,L|256:352,1,156.25,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,192,86349,2,0,L|96:352,1,156.25,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,86631,1,6,0:0:0:0:
96,192,86818,1,8,0:0:0:0:
496,192,87006,6,0,P|464:80|288:64,1,312.5,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
16,192,87568,2,0,P|48:80|224:64,1,312.5,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,192,88131,2,0,P|496:272|448:336,1,156.25,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,88506,6,0,L|128:192,1,125,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,248,88881,2,0,P|320:232|304:136,1,125,2|14,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,128,89162,1,0,0:0:0:0:
158,271,89256,2,0,P|96:240|128:144,1,187.5,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
448,320,89631,2,0,L|64:320,1,375,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,192,90006,6,0,L|400:160,1,39.0625,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,144,90193,2,0,L|112:112,1,39.0625,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,128,90381,2,0,L|395:100,1,39.0625,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,192,90568,2,0,P|32:224|144:336,1,312.5,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,91131,1,4,0:0:0:0:
176,192,91318,1,8,0:0:0:0:
448,192,91506,6,0,P|416:256|336:256,1,156.25,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,91881,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,92068,2,0,P|480:224|336:336,1,312.5,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,92631,2,0,P|80:96|128:64,1,156.25,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,93006,5,2,0:0:0:0:
288,192,93193,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,192,93381,1,2,0:0:0:0:
128,288,93568,2,0,P|48:144|144:80,1,312.5,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,128,94131,2,0,P|448:192|416:272,1,156.25,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,336,94412,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,192,94506,5,12,0:0:0:0:
480,192,94693,1,2,0:0:0:0:
144,192,94881,1,12,0:0:0:0:
304,192,95068,1,6,0:0:0:0:
48,192,95256,5,4,0:0:0:0:
176,192,95443,1,2,0:0:0:0:
48,192,95631,2,0,L|80:144,1,46.8750017881394,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,192,95818,2,0,L|336:144,1,46.8750017881394,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
16,192,96006,6,0,P|48:80|224:64,1,312.5,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,192,96568,2,0,P|464:80|288:64,1,312.5,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
16,192,97131,2,0,P|16:272|64:336,1,156.25,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,97506,5,2,0:0:0:0:
176,192,97693,1,2,0:0:0:0:
336,192,97881,2,0,L|416:192,1,78.125,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,98068,2,0,L|256:32,1,156.25,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,192,98349,2,0,L|416:32,1,156.25,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,98631,1,6,0:0:0:0:
416,192,98818,1,8,0:0:0:0:
16,192,99006,6,0,P|48:304|224:320,1,312.5,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,192,99568,2,0,P|464:304|288:320,1,312.5,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
16,192,100131,2,0,P|16:112|64:48,1,156.25,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,48,100506,6,0,L|496:48,1,156.25,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,192,100881,1,2,0:0:0:0:
492,48,101068,1,14,0:0:0:0:
489,86,101115,1,0,3:0:0:0:
482,125,101162,1,0,3:0:0:0:
470,161,101209,1,0,3:0:0:0:
453,197,101256,1,0,3:0:0:0:
430,229,101302,1,0,3:0:0:0:
404,257,101349,1,0,3:0:0:0:
375,282,101396,1,0,3:0:0:0:
224,192,101443,2,0,L|144:192,1,78.125,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,101631,2,0,P|432:64|336:48,1,234.375,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,192,102006,6,0,L|80:224,1,39.0625,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,240,102193,2,0,L|368:272,1,39.0625,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
117,284,102381,2,0,L|144:256,1,39.0625,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,192,102568,2,0,P|480:160|368:48,1,312.5,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,103131,1,4,0:0:0:0:
336,192,103318,1,8,0:0:0:0:
64,192,103506,6,0,P|96:128|176:128,1,156.25,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,103881,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,104068,2,0,P|32:160|176:48,1,312.5,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,104631,2,0,P|432:288|384:320,1,156.25,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,105006,5,2,0:0:0:0:
224,192,105193,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,105381,1,2,0:0:0:0:
384,96,105568,2,0,P|464:240|368:304,1,312.5,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,256,106131,2,0,P|64:192|96:112,1,156.25,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,48,106412,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,192,106506,5,12,0:0:0:0:
32,192,106693,1,2,0:0:0:0:
368,192,106881,1,12,0:0:0:0:
208,192,107068,1,6,0:0:0:0:
464,192,107256,5,4,0:0:0:0:
339,192,107443,1,8,0:0:0:0:
32,192,107631,2,0,L|192:192,1,156.25,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
339,192,107818,2,0,L|496:192,1,156.25,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,112,108006,6,0,P|120:184|176:192,1,187.500007152558,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,108568,2,0,L|432:192,1,46.8750017881394
304,192,108756,2,0,L|208:192,1,93.7500035762788,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,96,109131,2,0,L|288:96,1,93.7500035762788,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,96,109506,6,0,L|224:96,1,93.7500035762788,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,192,109881,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,192,110068,1,8,0:0:0:0:
128,192,110256,2,0,P|144:288|224:304,1,187.500007152558,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,304,110818,2,0,L|448:304,1,46.8750017881394
352,304,111006,6,0,P|304:304|256:192,1,187.500007152558,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,192,111568,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,192,111756,2,0,L|48:192,1,93.7500035762788,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
210,112,112131,2,0,L|304:112,1,93.7500035762788,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
462,192,112506,6,0,P|478:288|414:336,1,187.500007152558,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,336,113068,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,192,113256,2,0,B|448:96|448:96|416:64,1,140.625005364418,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
302,318,113631,2,0,B|272:288|272:288|256:192,1,140.625005364418,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
464,192,114006,6,0,B|448:288|448:288|416:320,1,140.625005364418,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,114381,2,0,L|160:192,1,93.7500035762788,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,144,114662,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,144,114756,2,0,L|400:144,1,93.7500035762788,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,96,115037,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,144,115131,2,0,L|112:144,1,93.7500035762788,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,96,115412,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,96,115506,6,0,P|336:128|336:224,1,187.500007152558,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,192,116068,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,272,116256,2,0,P|208:192|144:112,1,187.500007152558,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,112,116818,2,0,L|368:112,1,46.8750017881394,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,192,117006,5,6,0:0:0:0:
368,192,117381,2,0,L|464:192,1,93.7500035762788,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,128,117756,2,0,L|384:128,1,93.7500035762788,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,80,118037,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,128,118131,2,0,L|128:128,1,93.7500035762788,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,80,118412,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,80,118506,6,0,P|448:96|416:224,1,187.500007152558,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,240,118787,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,192,118881,2,0,L|32:192,1,93.7500035762788,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,119068,2,0,L|480:192,1,93.7500035762788,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,144,119256,1,14,0:0:0:0:
Absolute Zero
kek


Qualified!



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Kimitakari
This one is unexpected to be honest. Congrats!
Topic Starter
ZiRoX

Nelly wrote:

This one is unexpected to be honest. Congrats!
Me ranking a map is actually unexpected :^)
Ascendance
Great mapset from my favorite probation BN, congrats~
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hi, I would like to mention some issues present in the lower difficulties of Taiko.

  • [Kantan]
  1. From 00:13:506 to 01:01:506 - there are no 3/1 or longer breaks in this 48-second session, which is in fact rather demanding for beginners owing to continuous patterning. I would suggest removing 00:26:256 (29) - 00:32:256 (37) - 00:48:756 (64) - 01:00:756 (84) - to crack the pattern chain for some rest moments.
  2. From 01:06:006 to 01:28:506 - similar to ^ , you may delete 01:12:756 (98) and 01:18:756 (106) -
  • [Futsuu]
  1. From 00:24:006 to 01:02:068 - same issue as Kantan, without any 2/1 breaks this time. Notes like 00:36:568 (62) - 00:48:943 (98,99) - should be removed to avoid consecutive mapping.
  2. From 01:11:256 to 01:48:006 - similar to ^ , you may delete 01:23:068 (180) - 01:34:693 (215,216) -
Topic Starter
ZiRoX

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi, I would like to mention some issues present in the lower difficulties of Taiko.

  • [Kantan]
  1. From 00:13:506 to 01:01:506 - there are no 3/1 or longer breaks in this 48-second session, which is in fact rather demanding for beginners owing to continuous patterning. I would suggest removing 00:26:256 (29) - 00:32:256 (37) - 00:48:756 (64) - 01:00:756 (84) - to crack the pattern chain for some rest moments.
  2. From 01:06:006 to 01:28:506 - similar to ^ , you may delete 01:12:756 (98) and 01:18:756 (106) -
  • [Futsuu]
  1. From 00:24:006 to 01:02:068 - same issue as Kantan, without any 2/1 breaks this time. Notes like 00:36:568 (62) - 00:48:943 (98,99) - should be removed to avoid consecutive mapping.
  2. From 01:11:256 to 01:48:006 - similar to ^ , you may delete 01:23:068 (180) - 01:34:693 (215,216) -
As an outsider to Taiko, I'm wondering if the 3/1 needs to be that strict. In the Kantan's case, the diff is riddled with 5/2 spacings (just 1/2 away from the 3/1 suggested/required by the guideline). In fact, here's a listing of 5/2 spacings you can find in the sections you mentioned, separated in two parts as you pointed out (note that this is only 5/2 spacings, anything larger or smaller isn't listed):
  1. 00:15:568 (14,15) - 00:17:068 (16,17) - 00:18:568 (18,19) - 00:21:568 (23,24) - 00:23:068 (25,26) - 00:24:568 (27,28) - 00:30:568 (35,36) - 00:36:568 (43,44) - 00:41:068 (51,52) - 00:44:068 (56,57) - 00:47:068 (61,62) - 00:53:068 (72,73) - 00:54:568 (74,75) - 00:56:068 (76,77) - 00:59:068 (81,82) -
  2. 01:06:568 (89,90) - 01:08:068 (91,92) - 01:09:568 (93,94) - 01:17:068 (104,105) - 01:23:068 (1,2) - 01:24:568 (3,4) - 01:27:568 (9,10) - 01:30:568 (13,14) - 01:33:568 (18,19) - 01:36:568 (23,24) - 01:39:568 (29,30) - 01:41:068 (31,32) - 01:42:568 (33,34) - 01:45:568 (38,39) -
As you can see, that's quite a lot of 5/2 breaks within the sections you mentioned. Furthermore, I think the notes you suggested to delete are rather important beats: 00:26:256 (29) -, 00:32:256 (37) -, 01:12:756 (98) and 01:18:756 (106) - are noticeable high pitched vocals, while 00:48:756 (64) - and 01:00:756 (84) - are a rather relevant synth + vocal beat,

Similar stuff applies for the Futsuu: several 3/2 breaks (again, 1/2 away from the suggested/required by the guideline) are located in the sections you mentioned, namely:
  1. 00:24:006 (36,37,38) - 00:25:506 (39,40,41) - 00:28:506 (46,47,48) - 00:30:006 (49,50,51) - 00:31:506 (52,53,54) - 00:33:006 (55,56,57) - 00:34:506 (58,59,60) - 00:36:006 (61,62) - 00:36:943 (63,64) - 00:38:068 (66,67) - 00:41:068 (75,76) - 00:44:068 (84,85) - 00:45:568 (88,89) - 00:47:068 (92,93) - 00:50:068 (102,103) - 00:53:068 (111,112) - 00:54:568 (116,117) - 00:56:068 (120,121) - 00:57:568 (124,125) - 01:01:506 (136,137) -
  2. 01:12:006 (157,158,159) - 01:15:006 (164,165,166) - 01:16:506 (167,168,169) - 01:18:006 (170,171,172) - 01:19:506 (173,174,175) - 01:21:006 (176,177,178) - 01:22:506 (179,180) - 01:23:443 (181,182) - 01:24:568 (184,185) - 01:30:568 (203,204) - 01:32:068 (207,208) - 01:36:568 (223,224) - 01:39:568 (232,233) - 01:41:068 (237,238) - 01:42:568 (241,242) - 01:44:068 (245,246) -
Again, this is purely because I'm not so knowlegdeable with Taiko, so I don't know how strict you are with that guideline. If this truly has to be DQed because of this, I'm fine with it. But obviously, I'd prefer to avoid it.
Raiden
I can understand ZiRoX's reasoning here, considering Muzukashii barely uses 3/2 rest moment on some parts, it is however justifiable by the lower BPM. Note density spread already treads on a thin rope between Futsuu and Muzukashii, but in some parts of the Futsuu you could perfectly shove in a 2/1 break to match Muzukashii's rest moment structure. This way you would ensure a 2/1 rest moment every so often and the distance to Muzukashii would be fixed.

[Futsuu]
00:14:631 - delete for 2/1 rest moment (also would fit the spread with Muzukashii)
00:17:631 - add a note here to differentiate a bit more from Kantan, you've already got a 5/2 rest moment in 00:15:568 -
00:23:631 - ^
00:31:131 - can delete this don for a good 5/2 rest moment so you can follow up with denser patterning later
00:48:943 (98,99) - both can be deleted for a 2/1 rest moment (this is also denser than Muzu)
01:01:131 - ^ for a 2/1 rest moment

In addition, you could also follow this reasoning to make 3/1 or 4/1 rest moments in Kantan in the same place where you did 2/1s in Futsuu (at least if the music supports it mildly) such as:
→ 00:48:381 (63,64) -
→ 01:00:006 - something like this would grant you a 3/1 break and would represent the potent snare still

This would be sufficient in my opinion as it would introduce some 3/1+4/1 rest moments in Kantan as well as some 2/1 rest moments in Futsuu, in harmony with the rest moment structure Muzukashii holds.

In short: the rest moments scale accordingly snap-wise and since the BPM is slower than 180, 5/2 and 3/2 should be acceptable in Kantan and Futsuu respectively, given that Muzukashii barely uses them. However, I still think those minor changes should be made in Kantan and Futsuu in order to maintain rest moments' snaps consistent between lower difficulties.

Feel free to poke me after you've considered these suggestions, I'm willing to do do a follow-up mod to push this map forward again.
JBHyperion
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Topic Starter
ZiRoX
@Raiden: Everything applied. Poke me if I messed up something.
Xinnoh
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Raiden
follow up

general
use the volumes that Chromoxx uses on kantan and futsuu, hitsounds are currently practically inaudible
bring the bg up on Chromoxx's diffs with the same value you did on kantan and futsuu (-100)

futsuu
00:11:631 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - why the sudden rhythm change from 00:03:006 (1,2,3,4,5) - i recommend making the entire intro slightly more dense to bridge the gap with muzu

i feel like overall futsuu needs more 1/2 specially at the intro when the muzu is going 1/4 (like 00:07:881 - )
01:07:506 - 01:24:006 - has the same problem but on a lower scale since muzu only uses one 1/4

01:13:881 (158) - move to 01:14:068 - and delete 01:14:256 (159) - the sudden 1/1 rhythm kinda throws off the 3/2 feeling you've been gathering up during this section
01:30:006 (198) - missing finisher
01:41:068 (234) - could have finisher for the jarring sound
01:41:631 (235,236) - both have potent sounds to warrant a finisherl

chromoxx's muzukashii
01:01:881 (215) - could move this to 01:01:131 - to have the kick represented and instead have 01:01:881 - as a break signifying that the kiai is over and that a calm part is coming and and and and
01:47:631 - you can map this potent kick, you have a 2/1 rest moment immediately after

chromoxx's oni
00:22:787 (93,95) - you could ctrlg these two so that the vocalist going up can be more represented
01:01:131 - can map thisfdafd
01:55:318 (600,601,602) - could be a kdd i dont think the 3 notes share the exact same tone
01:56:818 (607,608,609) - samae but ddk?

chromoxx's inner
00:39:943 - i know there is a note here, but i feel having a doublet dk dk pattern would fit so much better with the vocalist
00:51:943 - saem
01:11:256 - this note can be confused as a separate note, consider doing the buildup progressive?
01:29:068 - could be 1/6 kkkd i hear 4 notes on the melody
01:41:443 (665,666) - finisher on both for extra emphasis?
01:58:506 - and 01:59:256 - similar as in 01:11:256 -

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Topic Starter
ZiRoX

Raiden wrote:

follow up

general
use the volumes that Chromoxx uses on kantan and futsuu, hitsounds are currently practically inaudible Increased volume to 90
bring the bg up on Chromoxx's diffs with the same value you did on kantan and futsuu (-100) Done

futsuu
00:11:631 (13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - why the sudden rhythm change from 00:03:006 (1,2,3,4,5) - i recommend making the entire intro slightly more dense to bridge the gap with muzu Replaced most of the section with the usual 3/2 pattern.

i feel like overall futsuu needs more 1/2 specially at the intro when the muzu is going 1/4 (like 00:07:881 - ) Added a couple 1/2s in the intro on 00:13:506 (24,25,26) -
01:07:506 - 01:24:006 - has the same problem but on a lower scale since muzu only uses one 1/4 Added a few notes

01:13:881 (158) - move to 01:14:068 - and delete 01:14:256 (159) - the sudden 1/1 rhythm kinda throws off the 3/2 feeling you've been gathering up during this section Replaced with the usual pattern
01:30:006 (198) - missing finisher Added
01:41:068 (234) - could have finisher for the jarring sound Added
01:41:631 (235,236) - both have potent sounds to warrant a finisher Added
Waiting for Chromoxx now
Kin
chromoxx is quite busy IRL, so he asked me to fix it for him.

Raiden wrote:

chromoxx's muzukashii
01:01:881 (215) - could move this to 01:01:131 - to have the kick represented and instead have 01:01:881 - as a break signifying that the kiai is over and that a calm part is coming and and and and fixed
01:47:631 - you can map this potent kick, you have a 2/1 rest moment immediately after fixed for consistency with the similar one

chromoxx's oni
00:22:787 (93,95) - you could ctrlg these two so that the vocalist going up can be more represented i think he prefer to keep the kkk d instead of kdk k for the flow. It seems more consistent with pattern in general
01:01:131 - can map thisfdafd ye
01:55:318 (600,601,602) - could be a kdd i dont think the 3 notes share the exact same tone ye
01:56:818 (607,608,609) - samae but ddk? might be better to just let it as ddd. seems consistent with 01:50:818 (579,580,581) - 01:47:818 (565,566,567) -

chromoxx's inner
00:39:943 - i know there is a note here, but i feel having a doublet dk dk pattern would fit so much better with the vocalist
00:51:943 - saem (for both) understandable, tho, i think chromoxx wanna get emphasis on this d 00:52:037 (307) - by using k here 00:51:943 (306) -
01:11:256 - this note can be confused as a separate note, consider doing the buildup progressive? I don't feel like building up progressively the speed up does really fit the music. (however, i do not really like how it overlap in 16:9 ; but I still find it ok)
01:29:068 - could be 1/6 kkkd i hear 4 notes on the melody considering the fact the 1/6 is quite low, I think 1/4 is ok
01:41:443 (665,666) - finisher on both for extra emphasis? considering how its mapped I think it might be better to keep it as simple note. He used finisher on this part for strong vocal like 01:46:506 (711,712,713,715) -
01:58:506 - and 01:59:256 - similar as in 01:11:256 -

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Topic Starter
ZiRoX
Updated!
Raiden
2

Kantan at the beginning could use simple 3/2, it currently is way too away from Futsuu which is filled with 3/2 + 1/1

add notes at spots like 00:03:568 - 00:05:068 - 00:06:568 - 00:09:568 - 00:11:068 - 00:12:568 -

and i think that should be all
Topic Starter
ZiRoX
Added notes on all those points
Raiden


since ctb diffs remain unchanged, it's time to bring it back
Nardoxyribonucleic
Placeholder. I will check the map as well as soon as possible.
Absolute Zero
ok we're just gonna go ahead with this and if Nardo wants to finish things up in the next 7 days he has the chance to

foresight bundled when

fuaieqlid!!
Aurele
another deadline given to Nardo
Professor Gila
i'm somewhat not sure if the hitsounds are somewhat "sunk" over the music, as i play the map, i couldn't hear the hitsounds very well (yes i put effect volume 100% and music volume 100%, as well as the master volume 100%, play with SPEAKER instead of HEADPHONE)
Nardoxyribonucleic
Could you guys stop skipping the checking procedure?
Professor Gila

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Could you guys stop skipping the checking procedure?
i got a bad feeling about this ._.
Nardoxyribonucleic
No need to feel bad. I was extremely busy last week due to the unexpected work schedule of mine. Absolute Zero contacted me once through pm but I did not even have time to read the message until today. Therefore I will do a routine check instead as it falls into qualified category.
Topic Starter
ZiRoX

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Could you guys stop skipping the checking procedure?
Don't try to make it look like something obscure happened here. The nomination of this beatmap follows all the rules: two different people, AZ is a full BN, both are qualified for one of the modes contained in the set, way more than 24 hours between bubble and qualification passed due to your placeholder (which don't actually mean anything).
Ascendance

ZiRoX wrote:

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Could you guys stop skipping the checking procedure?
Don't try to make it look like something obscure happened here. The nomination of this beatmap follows all the rules: two different people, AZ is a full BN, both are qualified for one of the modes contained in the set, way more than 24 hours between bubble and qualification passed due to your placeholder (which don't actually mean anything).
I don't think nardo intends anything malicious lol

Being that Nardo was the one to DQ the map in the beginning, it was probably better that nardo confirmed his issues that he brought up were fixed and ready to be pushed again, rather than AZ lol

this is why we delete taiko diffs btw :^)))))
Chromoxx
The issues were checked and confirmed with another qat and the original qualifying members, nothing was skipped here.
There is no rule that every taiko set that gets DQed for spread issues must be checked by Nardoxyribonucleic.
If other members feel like it is ready, there is no reason to hold the set back over a week because of a placeholder.
If you are very busy it would be best to focus on maps that need focusing on instead of placeholdering many different threads and halting the ranking procedures on all of them...
Absolute Zero
I apologize for the confusion. In the future I will be more considerate about what I do when.
defiance
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