chano & 40mP - Natsukoi Hanabi · forum

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-08-15T17:51:05+00:00

If players are so against "these types of maps" as you say, then why are there over 250k plays on CBCC? Checkmate my friend, better luck next round!

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,912 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2017-08-15T19:19:07+00:00

ahh please leave the shitposting to reddit

[spark of light]

decimal od does mostly nothing, use 9?
00:06:046 (3) - i think sliderslide should be hitsounded in some way, maybe the sliderslide sample from https://osu.ppy.sh/b/147375 fits as a sliderwhistle here?
00:12:501 - that you drop whistles completely here onwards kinda ruins the mood in my opinion, the song features piano throughout so i think you should hitsound those more? you even feature them as your prominent layer of mapping
01:06:615 (1) - ever tried ending this in 01:06:900 - ? seems more accurate with the guitar
01:07:944 (5) - 01:10:982 (5,6) - should either be both sliders or both circles according to what you wanted to do
01:10:223 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - also this didnt really feel energetic at all given that even 01:07:185 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - as a whole is bigger
01:25:413 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - by making most of this just circles and only a few sliders you lose all the focus you've put on vocals being the core of this song before in any part, here's a list of opportunities you use to follow drums
1. 01:27:881 (2,3,4) - 3 very distinct vocals
2. 01:26:172 (1,2,3,4) - after this being all on vocals, doing 01:26:932 (1) - and ending it on avocal just seems odd
3. 01:29:400 (2,3) - these two stand out exactly in no way compared to the rest 01:29:780 (4) - does that well by being a completely different type of object, but with this many circles going on it all seems the same.
4. 01:30:160 (1,2,3,4,5) - this star pattern would stand out way more if the things preceeding it were different from it
Most of these opportunities seem pretty cool to work with the song and with the key idea you've been following until now while also being the thing people mostly take issue in - i think a change to distinctly focusing features of the song that are not drums will be beneficial because the drums in this section are constant and present, the vocals are varied and otherwise the key feature of your map.
01:12:312 (3,4,5) - this somehow doesnt align with how you handle movement, mostly because the arrangement of 3 and 4 implies it's a direction that the player is expected to follow but out of line with what they expect to follow to, most other instances like 01:09:274 (3,4,5) - are clearly doing a back forth or other defined shapes while this is doing a "idunnoitlooksnice"
01:22:944 (4) - i think end should be circle for vocals
01:31:109 (1,2) - dunno how feasible but circles??

[smokeman]

ar 6 fits your sv and density better, e.g. it makes 00:02:818 (5,1) - rhythm gaps actually readable in a straightforward manner - if you do this adjust other setting accordingly
00:09:463 (1,2,3) - as youre making a diff for mostly beginners doing placements like these should be avoided, the player at this level struggles with interpreting order for some reason so having an arragement of two circles that could be read either way and be "ok this makes sense" is prone to confuse people. This is mainly because you keep sliderend to circle distances in some cases visually constant so that order of objects isnt too clear sometimes
00:18:577 (1,2,3) - you start this off by following drums, so by 00:21:046 (4) - people expect you to follow drums
00:32:818 (3,4) - for stuff like these variations that dont exactly involve two 1/2 sliders for 1/1 sounds in succession could be cool, stuff like that includes rhythms like http://i.imgur.com/kBBFraG.png
00:39:274 (7) - if you decide against the above, at leat point this somewhere where upwards so that a dropoff to the next circle is created, i think with the movement you got going on that works better
00:47:438 (5,6) - seems forced, how about 1/1 slider
00:48:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - that this place is musically different in a lot of ways is not visible in any ways, mostly rhythm
01:10:793 (2,4) - looks oddly misplaced since you dont use stacking at all in this diff, so you're essentially introducing a new concept right before the end - you stack two things in the intro and that's it from there onwards (i think you should use stacks more because then you can have the player not move on every note)
01:30:160 (1,2,3,4) - even with your general "i dont like organized patternz lul" mindset this is just kind of a mess

Axon

284 posts

Joined July 2015

Axon 2017-08-17T00:56:12+00:00

Xexxar wrote:
Disappointed that this is still the type of content that BN members are willing to push towards rank but /shrug what do you expect.

by that logic you should have no ranked maps.

Smokeman

463 posts

Joined November 2012

Smokeman 2017-08-20T20:56:11+00:00

Okorin wrote:
ahh please leave the shitposting to reddit THIS IS A MEME FREE ZONE NOW

[smokeman]
ar 6 fits your sv and density better, e.g. it makes 00:02:818 (5,1) - rhythm gaps actually readable in a straightforward manner - if you do this adjust other setting accordingly yea
00:09:463 (1,2,3) - as youre making a diff for mostly beginners doing placements like these should be avoided, the player at this level struggles with interpreting order for some reason so having an arragement of two circles that could be read either way and be "ok this makes sense" is prone to confuse people. This is mainly because you keep sliderend to circle distances in some cases visually constant so that order of objects isnt too clear sometimes I knew it was wierd back when i mapped it. Good thing someone finally points it out
00:18:577 (1,2,3) - you start this off by following drums, so by 00:21:046 (4) - people expect you to follow drums Infact i only follow drums this intensly on these first 3 sliders. I proceed to follow the longer piano notes to make it less dense (so the last section of the song can stand out with tons of 1/2 sliders)
00:32:818 (3,4) - for stuff like these variations that dont exactly involve two 1/2 sliders for 1/1 sounds in succession could be cool, stuff like that includes rhythms like http://i.imgur.com/kBBFraG.png I do prefere it the way i have for 2 reasons. Even though the song features strong drums i wanted to follow the piano/vocal rythm more. This is the section that feaute my arguable cool firework aesthetic and i think 2 sliders like that (and later on aswell) make a beautiful firework pattern C:
00:39:274 (7) - if you decide against the above, at leat point this somewhere where upwards so that a dropoff to the next circle is created, i think with the movement you got going on that works better This is the same as 00:44:970 (6,7) - but it would make sense to make it point upwards moar. (can't point it up too much else it will resemble the patterns of the previous yellow combo too much and i wouldnt like that :c
00:47:438 (5,6) - seems forced, how about 1/1 slider I do see your concern but having too many 1/1 would break the uniqueness of 00:48:957 (1,2,3,4) - a bit. On the other hand some variety would be cool to have. Mb i'll ctrl+g the rythm
00:48:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - that this place is musically different in a lot of ways is not visible in any ways, mostly rhythm 00:48:957 (1,2) - the sharp 180° turn and the soft transition of 00:49:527 (2,3,4) - make up for it through object placement imo. I could do some different slidershapes but i wanted to try this different thing : S
01:10:793 (2,4) - looks oddly misplaced since you dont use stacking at all in this diff, so you're essentially introducing a new concept right before the end - you stack two things in the intro and that's it from there onwards (i think you should use stacks more because then you can have the player not move on every note) Even after spending >30 min trying to make it work w/o the stack i couldnt find a way to map it which would require a 80% remap. If this is a huge problem then i will keep trying tomorrow/next time i sit down for this
01:30:160 (1,2,3,4) - even with your general "i dont like organized patternz lul" mindset this is just kind of a mess i dont like organized patternz lul but i made this a bit better cause trash

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allein

Beatmap Nominator

821 posts

Joined March 2015

allein 2017-08-25T18:51:11+00:00

rippu?

Nikakis

769 posts

Joined May 2014

Nikakis 2017-09-06T09:26:27+00:00

i like trains

Will Stetson

Featured Artist

53 posts

Joined September 2014

Will Stetson 2017-11-06T22:39:06+00:00

Nikakis wrote:
i like trains

DeletedUser_3638005

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_3638005 2018-01-07T16:38:32+00:00

Okoratu

ahh please leave the shitposting to reddit

[spark of light]

decimal od does mostly nothing, use 9? hmm okay
00:06:046 (3) - i think sliderslide should be hitsounded in some way, maybe the sliderslide sample from https://osu.ppy.sh/b/147375 fits as a sliderwhistle here? done
00:12:501 - that you drop whistles completely here onwards kinda ruins the mood in my opinion, the song features piano throughout so i think you should hitsound those more? you even feature them as your prominent layer of mapping sure
01:06:615 (1) - ever tried ending this in 01:06:900 - ? seems more accurate with the guitar the reason why this extended is because it's a combination of the guitar string and her breath kinda, also it makes the kiai feel more explosive and the reason why i decided to keep it.
01:07:944 (5) - 01:10:982 (5,6) - should either be both sliders or both circles according to what you wanted to do remapped the kiais completely, also those beats are all sliders now
01:10:223 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - also this didnt really feel energetic at all given that even 01:07:185 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - as a whole is bigger it's more spaced now but kinda remapped
01:25:413 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - by making most of this just circles and only a few sliders you lose all the focus you've put on vocals being the core of this song before in any part, here's a list of opportunities you use to follow drums tried to follow more vocals with the addition of sliders and some more sliders instead of random circles
1. 01:27:881 (2,3,4) - 3 very distinct vocals
2. 01:26:172 (1,2,3,4) - after this being all on vocals, doing 01:26:932 (1) - and ending it on avocal just seems odd
3. 01:29:400 (2,3) - these two stand out exactly in no way compared to the rest 01:29:780 (4) - does that well by being a completely different type of object, but with this many circles going on it all seems the same.
4. 01:30:160 (1,2,3,4,5) - this star pattern would stand out way more if the things preceeding it were different from it
Most of these opportunities seem pretty cool to work with the song and with the key idea you've been following until now while also being the thing people mostly take issue in - i think a change to distinctly focusing features of the song that are not drums will be beneficial because the drums in this section are constant and present, the vocals are varied and otherwise the key feature of your map.
01:12:312 (3,4,5) - this somehow doesnt align with how you handle movement, mostly because the arrangement of 3 and 4 implies it's a direction that the player is expected to follow but out of line with what they expect to follow to, most other instances like 01:09:274 (3,4,5) - are clearly doing a back forth or other defined shapes while this is doing a "idunnoitlooksnice" changed it
01:22:944 (4) - i think end should be circle for vocals remapped but should still be applied
01:31:109 (1,2) - dunno how feasible but circles?? okay then

Aistre

Beatmap Nominator

614 posts

Joined September 2014

Aistre 2018-01-08T19:02:59+00:00

o!mG!

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,912 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2018-01-09T20:21:23+00:00

please hitsound the rhythms that you map in the normal as you mapped them just copying over hitsounding from the other diff isnt working

DeletedUser_3638005

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_3638005 2018-01-10T18:04:39+00:00

i see, some beats didn't even have hitsounds on them lol, should be better now

also changed the placement of the objects on top diff because i wasn't really happy with them, from 01:26:932 - here to 01:29:590 - here. rhythm remains unchanged

updated

[Sony]

[Sony] 2018-01-14T22:17:23+00:00

Hi, please buff end jumps again, thanks

7ambda

2,560 posts

Joined January 2015

7ambda 2018-01-14T22:27:29+00:00

damn, this took a huge nerf

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2018-01-22T18:03:05+00:00

gogog

Cheri

1,770 posts

Joined November 2014

Cheri 2018-01-30T01:27:37+00:00

Ok ~ M4M I guess since ya said so in-game...

I personally don't see much wrong with it but i'll bring up some things

Spark of Light

00:06:046 (3) - A soft-whistle right here would quite fitting at the start of this note and wouldn't be too anoying or anything
00:10:033 (3) - On the slider end of this a - clap right here seems to leave more of an impact instead of a whistle imo
00:24:274 (6,7,8,1) - I feel the gap between 00:24:274 (6,7,8) - and 00:24:653 (1) - is a bit too big imo
while I do understand this is suppose to be challenging - but it could help reducing the gap just a tad bit to make not as challenging

Nasya's Insane

I wish you map the intro like all the difficulties do :c
01:05:096 (6,7,8) - Maybe possibly adjust the spacing around here? like slightly reducing the spacing at (6) and give a little bit more (8) since 8 leaves quite a strong impact and I felt it should be emphasis a bit more around here
01:08:515 - Don't see the harm of adding a whistle right here - seems to more fitting for the music than without
01:31:109 (1) - possible curve this slightly down towards the left a bit - Feels more comfortable that way

Insane

Similar minor hitsound issues with the top difficulty
01:30:919 (5) - Minor but maybe move this more towards the left just a slight bit to makes thing a slight bit more comfortable here

Looks clean

Advanced

00:52:944 (2) - Tbh I don't think a repeating slider here fit all that much ~ a simple circle + slider here works better for the beat/vocals around here but that just me
01:10:793 (2,4) - fixed this overlap please

Normal

00:58:641 - I feel that having soft-whistle right here after the next 1 00:59:020 (2) - don't sound right to me - maybe used drum - whistle instead

General

No problem

Didn't see no issues with the Hard except similar stuff about hs like other diffs (basically just recheck all difficulties hs which shouldn't be long since I didn't point out too much)

Bring up some metadata and call me back soon

DeletedUser_3638005

Topic Starter

DeletedUser_3638005 2018-01-30T22:12:15+00:00

fixed everything, waiting on the GDers now, thanks for modding!

metadata:

http://www.pixelbee.jp/panorama/
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11550635
http://chano36.blog55.fc2.com/blog-entry-114.html

N a s y a

510 posts

Joined March 2012

N a s y a 2018-01-31T08:41:40+00:00

thank you Hailie~
all fix and many changed.

http://puu.sh/zduDA/76e90d8929.zip

Smokeman

463 posts

Joined November 2012

Smokeman 2018-02-01T00:06:05+00:00

Hailie wrote:

Advanced
00:52:944 (2) - Tbh I don't think a repeating slider here fit all that much ~ a simple circle + slider here works better for the beat/vocals around here but that just me ya
01:10:793 (2,4) - fixed this overlap pleaseit's intended, it has to stack in the the reverse direction and cause osu can't do that on its own i have to custom hotfix it. It look better and more balanced that way

hell yeah dude

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Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,912 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2018-02-03T18:42:42+00:00

call me after them

Cheri

1,770 posts

Joined November 2014

Cheri 2018-02-03T19:56:05+00:00

okay

Lacrimosa

1,898 posts

Joined December 2013

Lacrimosa 2018-02-03T20:42:20+00:00

let's go

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,912 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2018-02-04T21:06:05+00:00

00:12:501 - pls for the love of god in normal dont just spam whistles of a sampleset that has drums there, actual soft whistles sound much better

Smokeman wrote:
Okorin wrote:
ahh please leave the shitposting to reddit THIS IS A MEME FREE ZONE NOW

[smokeman]
[list][*]ar 6 fits your sv and density better, e.g. it makes 00:02:818 (5,1) - rhythm gaps actually readable in a straightforward manner - if you do this adjust other setting accordingly yea