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Kishida Kyoudan & The Akeboshi Rockets - HIGHSCHOOL OF THE D

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Manu028
149 posts
Joined March 2015
Manu028
Hi from my modding queue uwu

[Deppy's Easier]

  1. 00:02:671 (2,1) - looks weird, try something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8769821
  2. 00:05:197 (2) - I don't like this mostly because it overlaps with the next slider and it doesn't look good
  3. 00:38:671 (3,1) - spacing isn't similar to 00:36:145 (3,1) - (i feel like they should be the same, like you did here 00:41:197 (3,1) - )
[Easy]

  1. 00:42:934 (1,2,3) - new players may be confused about this, try to nc (2) and (3)
[50t4rk5's Insane]

  1. 01:05:829 (1) - would look better if more curved and blanketed with the previous slider, aesthetically speaking
  2. 01:15:934 - from here to the end you start a pretty fast part with high sv. Is it really okay for an insane diff? it looks too hard imo, maybe try to decrease the sv a little bit
  3. 01:17:987 (1) - out of the screen
[Extreme]

  1. 00:01:881 (3) - Make the curve larger? it could be blanketed with 00:02:355 (4) -
  2. 00:04:408 (3,4) - same ^
  3. 00:06:934 (3,4,3,4) - same here

Sorry for this bad mod, i suck at modding and this map is really well done so i couldn't find much to change. Keep up the good work ^-^
Also sorry if i didn't mod all diffs but i can't mod normals/hards Gonna give kudosu to this ♥
Dilectus
1,727 posts
Joined April 2014
Topic Starter
Dilectus

Manu028 wrote:

[Easy]

  1. 00:42:934 (1,2,3) - new players may be confused about this, try to nc (2) and (3) sure, but its nice for beginners to see that a difference in spacing usually = change
[Extreme]

  1. 00:01:881 (3) - Make the curve larger? it could be blanketed with 00:02:355 (4) - fixed
  2. 00:04:408 (3,4) - same ^ ^
  3. 00:06:934 (3,4,3,4) - same here ^
Thank you :)
Maxylan
242 posts
Joined May 2014
Maxylan
Tjena
Thanks for applying to the queue! Modding the [Extreme] Diff.

00:22:092 (4,5) - Remove 4 and place 5 in it's place
00:36:618 (8,1,2) - Flow is very wierd here
- 00:37:250 (3,4,5) - Because flow is with a wide angle on that part the stream facing upwards is wierd
00:37:881 (7,8,1) - Same ^^
01:05:513 (6,7) - Overmapped if you ask me but that's just imo

TL:DR It plays really well! I do find alot of the snap-jumps odd at times, but if I pointed them out I know you'd say they're a part of the song's map style and I can both see and respect that because it's still very much playable, and enjoyable.

Maxylan seal of approval!!!
Kalibe
2,060 posts
Joined October 2013
Kalibe
oh wow, it's alive

pls rank
Sotarks
3,493 posts
Joined May 2014
Sotarks

Manu028 wrote:

[50t4rk5's Insane]

  1. 01:05:829 (1) - would look better if more curved and blanketed with the previous slider, aesthetically speaking i like current curve
  2. 01:15:934 - from here to the end you start a pretty fast part with high sv. Is it really okay for an insane diff? it looks too hard imo, maybe try to decrease the sv a little bit it's a gimmick that i wanna keep
  3. 01:17:987 (1) - out of the screen no it's not ?
thx
Dilectus
1,727 posts
Joined April 2014
Topic Starter
Dilectus

Maxylan wrote:

00:22:092 (4,5) - Remove 4 and place 5 in it's place made the pattern more circular + changed rhythm
00:36:618 (8,1,2) - Flow is very wierd here remapped this section
- 00:37:250 (3,4,5) - Because flow is with a wide angle on that part the stream facing upwards is wierd ^
00:37:881 (7,8,1) - Same ^^ ^
01:05:513 (6,7) - Overmapped if you ask me but that's just imo! it was edgy. so sure
Appreciate it bud!

If you come back to read my response...
I don't have any criticism, but I do have some helpful advice when modding.

When I mod maps, I usually go through 3 things when making a suggestion for more effective modding

What is wrong?
Why is it wrong?
How can it be fixed?

Not only does this benefit the mapper. It benefits you as a mapper as well since you can see an issue and how to make it better.
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Maxylan
242 posts
Joined May 2014
Maxylan

DavidEd wrote:

If you come back to read my response...
I don't have any criticism, but I do have some helpful advice when modding.

When I mod maps, I usually go through 3 things when making a suggestion for more effective modding

What is wrong?
Why is it wrong?
How can it be fixed?

Not only does this benefit the mapper. It benefits you as a mapper as well since you can see an issue and how to make it better.
Yo thanks! I'll be sure to keep this in mind more in the future!!
Sharkie
343 posts
Joined May 2014
Sharkie
[Deppy's Easy]
  1. There's only one thing I don't like with this diff, and that there's no break after 00:24:145 - A 2 measure rest should be long enough for a break. That's it.
  2. 01:01:408 (1,2,3) - Nice fidget spinner +1
[Easy]
  1. Nothing to say, looks great.
[Akitoshi's Normal]
  • Looks great!
    00:34:250 (1) - I'd rotate this 1 degree. Not a fan of completely horizontal sliders. Totally subjective though.
[Kalibe's Hard]

  • Pretty awesome.
  1. 01:22:250 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Not really a fan of this rhythm. Only reason is because there are snare hits on the offbeats of 3 and 4. In addition, there really isn't anything on 01:24:460 -. However, I do see that you could be following lead guitar/bass drum hits like here: 01:24:145.
[Evanescent-'s Extra]
  1. 00:25:408 (5) - New combo?
  2. 00:35:829 (1,2) - Jumps like these seem a big too large for how it sounds.
    Like how 00:36:776 (1,2) - is spaced more than 00:37:092 (4,5) - even though 00:37:250 (5) - sounds like a stronger note.

    Plays nicely, well done.

[Extreme]
DavidEd, you never fail to impress.
  1. 00:23:513 (5,6) - I think this should be a bigger jump because 6 is a snare hit. I think a good spacing choice would be x2.9, because at the end of the song, you used x2.82 here 01:25:723 (7,1) -
  2. 00:33:618 (1,2) - I think this should be a bigger jump here as well, The snare hit previously mentioned and the snare hit here is used for transitioning into another phrase. When compared to snare hits in the kiai, which is used as a time keeper.

    Not much else to say. It's great.
Deppyforce
1,961 posts
Joined November 2014
Deppyforce

Sharkie wrote:

[Deppy's Easy]
  1. There's only one thing I don't like with this diff, and that there's no break after 00:24:145 - A 2 measure rest should be long enough for a break. That's it. my bad added break
  2. 01:01:408 (1,2,3) - Nice fidget spinner +1 lol

Manu028 wrote:

Hi from my modding queue uwu

[Deppy's Easier]

  1. 00:02:671 (2,1) - looks weird, try something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8769821 na i like weird things and its fine
  2. 00:05:197 (2) - I don't like this mostly because it overlaps with the next slider and it doesn't look good na i like weird things and its fine
  3. 00:38:671 (3,1) - spacing isn't similar to 00:36:145 (3,1) - (i feel like they should be the same, like you did here 00:41:197 (3,1) - ) lmao it doesnt even matter i just cant do the first one like the second cuz i have limited spacing up above the screen
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Dilectus
1,727 posts
Joined April 2014
Topic Starter
Dilectus

Sharkie wrote:

DavidEd, you never fail to impress. oh... I didnt know you felt this way about me, onii-chan
  1. 00:23:513 (5,6) - I think this should be a bigger jump because 6 is a snare hit. I think a good spacing choice would be x2.9, because at the end of the song, you used x2.82 here 01:25:723 (7,1) - i agree
  2. 00:33:618 (1,2) - I think this should be a bigger jump here as well, The snare hit previously mentioned and the snare hit here is used for transitioning into another phrase. When compared to snare hits in the kiai, which is used as a time keeper. yeah, it lacks impact rn, so changed
Also updated Deppy's diff.

Thanks again!
Kyle Y
1,204 posts
Joined November 2013
Kyle Y

Normal modding request from my queue.
[]

Deppy's Easier
  1. I don't think this is mapped by pro mapper Deppyforce. What I expected map quality is like https://osu.ppy.sh/b/733753
  2. I do not like this map because seems you are placing objects randomly, couldn't see it is well organized. It is not good to rush a map.
  3. just like 00:02:671 (2,1) - what I think REAL Deppyforce do is blanket them, and will not map poor stacking like 00:02:671 (2,2) - or overlapping like 00:05:197 (2,1) - . Maybe I do not understand well what Deppyforce style is.
  4. I know it is hard to map an Easy for this song. With the 1/2 snapped vocal and 1/1 beats, I think it is better to follow beats in Easy becasue beats is the basic for any rhythm game, and it is easier to catch for new players.

Easy, Normal and Hard are nice, except Deppy's easy one. Then I do not waste time on them.

In fact, this is not a modding .....
Deppyforce
1,961 posts
Joined November 2014
Deppyforce
im bad mapper even sotarks would agree
it is my diff tho
ReFaller
1,233 posts
Joined August 2014
ReFaller
NM from my queue.
[General]
Imo it doesn't affect anything, but disable Widescreen Support anywhere is enabled.

Every diff except Deppyforce and Sotarks' difficulties ha default combo colors. Copy them from Deppyforce one because Sotarks has suited to his custom BG.

[Deppyforce's Easier]
Cannot be easier than this one.
00:18:934 (1) - caught at failed blanket. Better if you will use only one middle point, but first delete all middle points and creat new one because curren slider shape acts like without Perfect Blanket implant (some update near end of 2012 year).
[Easy]
Good.
[Akitoshi's Normal]
Good.
[Kalibe's Hard]
00:10:013 (4) - w porównaniu do głośności instrumentów w 00:08:829 (5,6) nie jestem za tym aby czynić tu tripleta
00:12:776 (1,2) - namówisz sie na zrobienie z nich 1/4 sliderków po 3 reversy w kazdym?
00:53:513 (2,3,4) - no no, prawie jak ja to zrobiłeś
Albo usuń NC w 01:17:197 (1,1) albo dodaj na 01:19:881 (2) dla wizualizacji
A na koniec żebyś sie pomęczył znaczy...nie nudził to pousuwasz wszystkie nieużywane zielone linie :>
[Sotarks' Insane]
00:12:776 (1,2,1,2,3) - seems should be better if you will separate 00:12:776 (1) to two 1/4 sliders and manage spacing to increase some spacing between 00:13:092 (2,1) because i don't really get when i should click any of these sliders
00:34:250 (1) - i'm for some uncomfortable flow in case of sound on downbeat.

Good luck guys.
Crypthesis
195 posts
Joined September 2016
Crypthesis
pls rank

too guud for me

from my "modding queue"

global stuff
Sliderborder is not consistent.

Slider track override is not consistent.

Usage of mp3 and ogg as hitsounds is not recommended (consider converting to .wav):
soft-slidertick2.wav

Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
drum-hitwhistle2.wav
soft-hitfinish.wav
soft-hitfinish3.wav

use some combo colors :/

copied from modding ai

easier
00:02:671 (2,1) - blanket?

00:05:197 (2,1) - would look better imo if you didn't overlap all the way to the second slider's bottom side

00:22:250 (1,2,1) - use ds :/

00:23:355 (1) - make symmetrical?

01:24:302 (2) - nc?

sotark's thing
01:17:987 (1) - offscreen

i can't find anything :/
Dilectus
1,727 posts
Joined April 2014
Topic Starter
Dilectus

ReFaller wrote:

Imo it doesn't affect anything, but disable Widescreen Support anywhere is enabled. fixed

Every diff except Deppyforce and Sotarks' difficulties ha default combo colors. Copy them from Deppyforce one because Sotarks has suited to his custom BG fixed

Crypthesis wrote:

Sliderborder is not consistent. snoretarks wanted to use a different bg so

Slider track override is not consistent. same ^

Usage of mp3 and ogg as hitsounds is not recommended (consider converting to .wav):
soft-slidertick2.wav fixed

Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
drum-hitwhistle2.wav fixed
soft-hitfinish.wav doesnt show any delay when inspecting wave length
soft-hitfinish3.wav same ^
Thanks guys
Dendy
Dendy
pain

Extreme
00:26:276 (2) - very sudden moment while playing, maybe better to stack?
00:31:329 (2) - ^
00:45:776 (6) - ctrl + g?
00:46:881 (1,2) - same spacing as in here 00:45:934 (7,1,1,2)
00:47:513 (6,1) - ^
00:53:829 (1,2,3,4) - as intensity grows spacing will grow, but it too small at this rate. 00:53:987 (2,4) +isn't it better to leave in a circular flow, by breaking flow on (4), it becomes difficult part for the player
01:05:671 (7,1) - increase spacing because of strong sound?
01:21:539 (4,5) - maybe just leave it as a triple for comfort?

Finally good mapset for this song
Dilectus
1,727 posts
Joined April 2014
Topic Starter
Dilectus

DendyMudak wrote:

00:26:276 (2) - very sudden moment while playing, maybe better to stack? i agree
00:31:329 (2) - ^ same ^
00:45:776 (6) - ctrl + g? the flow is supposed to go in a straight line as it's more comfortable to play
00:46:881 (1,2) - same spacing as in here 00:45:934 (7,1,1,2) fixed
00:47:513 (6,1) - ^ fixed
00:53:829 (1,2,3,4) - as intensity grows spacing will grow, but it too small at this rate. 00:53:987 (2,4) +isn't it better to leave in a circular flow, by breaking flow on (4), it becomes difficult part for the player i agree. it has better impact now
01:05:671 (7,1) - increase spacing because of strong sound? hmm, that would ruin the aestetic structure, but i may figure something out later on.
01:21:539 (4,5) - maybe just leave it as a triple for comfort? decided to remap the ending
Thanks mate!
Pulse
257 posts
Joined April 2015
Pulse


what's up doc?
from my queue

[Deepy's Easier]
  1. 01:11:513 (1,2,3) - You could do some blankets to avoid these overlapping.
[Easy]
  1. 01:05:829 (1) - Slider wouldn't be better?
[Kalibe's Hard]
  1. 00:28:723 (3) - Maybe NC? It would help to understand (3,4) better.
[Evanescent's Extra]
  1. 00:37:250 (5) - Double timing section.
  2. 01:17:039 (2) - ^
  3. 00:52:881 (2) - Landing on such a strong beat feels weird. Consider moving slider start to where it was ending and add a circle on 00:52:881, or at least increase spacing from 00:52:566 (1).
  4. 01:14:513 (1) - Ctrl+G to match 01:15:145 (3,4) disposure?
[Extreme]
  1. 00:12:776 (5) - NC? You could also Ctrl+G for a smoother movement while playing (Ctrl+G-ing makes moviment from (5) to (6) smaller and lighter. It also helps note consistency with 00:13:566 (5,6).
Sorry for short modding, that's a solid mapset imo.

Good luck!
Dilectus
1,727 posts
Joined April 2014
Topic Starter
Dilectus

Pulse wrote:

[Easy]
  1. 01:05:829 (1) - Slider wouldn't be better? fixed
[Extreme]
  1. 00:12:776 (5) - NC? You could also Ctrl+G for a smoother movement while playing (Ctrl+G-ing makes moviment from (5) to (6) smaller and lighter. It also helps note consistency with 00:13:566 (5,6). did something simular for smoother flow
thanks mate
Akitoshi
2,684 posts
Joined August 2014
Akitoshi
tilted slider, thanks sharkie uwu

osu file format v14

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Evanescent-
285 posts
Joined April 2014
Evanescent-

Stingy wrote:

InfiniWong's Extra
00:08:197 (1,2,3) - Why is this a triple is nothing is there ughhh Unintentional, just for emphasis, fixed tho
00:34:250 - to 00:42:934 - ... I cannot believe the amount of triples that are out of place... Can you listen to the music and remove some of them please? ;w; Probably the hardest part to fix, but managed to fix it well ;)
Thanks!

Kyomaku wrote:

InfiWong's Extra
00:26:039 (7) - Feels off rhythm to me. Music is really quiet here so I could barely notice the sound on the blue tick that matches the slider (had to listen at 25% speed to hear it after removing the slider), whereas the white tick has a much more noticeable sound but is buried in the slider, which kinda makes it feel offbeat for me. You could try this instead. Feels more intuitive to me I placed it like that since I thought it's a 1/3 rhythm, replaced it with this pattern instead 00:26:039 (3,4,5) -
00:37:250 2 identical timing sections placed on the same second. removed
01:17:039 ^ removed
Thanks!

Sharkie wrote:

Evanescent-'s Extra

00:25:408 (5) - New combo? fixed
00:35:829 (1,2) - Jumps like these seem a big too large for how it sounds.
Like how 00:36:776 (1,2) - is spaced more than 00:37:092 (4,5) - even though 00:37:250 (5) - sounds like a stronger note.
For both above, since I replaced with new pattern, I tried to balance it as consistent as possible since this part has a relatively high rhythm.
Plays nicely, well done. Thanks!

Pulse wrote:

Evanescent's Extra
00:37:250 (5) - Double timing section. removed
01:17:039 (2) - ^ removed
00:52:881 (2) - Landing on such a strong beat feels weird. Consider moving slider start to where it was ending and add a circle on 00:52:881, or at least increase spacing from 00:52:566 (1). Replaced it with 2 circles instead
01:14:513 (1) - Ctrl+G to match 01:15:145 (3,4) disposure? fixed
Thanks!
huge update after risen from the ded
osu file format v14

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