sasakure.UK x DECO*27 - Snow Song Show [Taiko]

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Senritsu
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 11:21:38 AM

Artist: sasakure.UK x DECO*27
Title: Snow Song Show
Tags: hatsune miku vocaloid christmas 初音ミク winter
BPM: 170
Filesize: 6627kb
Play Time: 04:19
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (1.88 stars, 478 notes)
  2. Kantan (1.36 stars, 310 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (2.62 stars, 665 notes)
  4. Oni (2.99 stars, 871 notes)


Download: sasakure.UK x DECO*27 - Snow Song Show
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mp3 from rui's mapset and timing thanks to Skylish

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Arrival
Hello Senritsu <3

[General]

Currently, the SV for Muzukashii and Oni is 1.97, I believe this is not intended and due to the current taiko edit bug, so be careful when you update the map !

[Kantan]

00:15:560 (18) - Consider adding a note here, not only it fits and goes well with the music but it also breaks the monotony of a 2/1 rhythm. (04:05:170 - same here)

00:27:414 (34) - There is a lack of consistency here that is needed for a kantan imo. I'd put ddk just as you did here 00:49:588 (63,64,65) - .

[Futsuu]

00:06:737 - Add a d here ? Feels weird without it imo.

00:33:501 (69) - Try moving this note to 00:33:936 - , the current version makes a weird rythm imo, and moving this note here will fit better. 00:38:719 (82) - , same thing for this note if you follow this suggestion.

00:43:936 (95) - Delete this note ? Doesn't sounds well and if you remove it you'll have a nice build up towards the next part of the song.

01:20:893 (171,172,173,174,175) - This seems to be a difficuly spike a bit too high, you're going from a 1/1 and 2/1 rhythm to suddenly 5 1/2 notes. Consider deleting one of them. (I think of this note for exemple 01:21:328 (173) - )

03:52:127 - To be consistent in this part, either add a k here OR delete this one 03:45:170 (37) -

04:11:040 (1) - End this spinner here 04:19:953 - ?? Thats what you did in the Kantan.

[Muzukashii]

00:15:649 (31,32,33) - Well you should have a note on the red tick (00:15:913 - ), so I suggest moving the triplet by one 1/4 tick later. It plays better too imo.

00:33:284 (94) - Move this note here 00:32:849 - , this note 00:35:023 (100) - here 00:34:588 - , and this 00:36:762 (106) - here 00:36:328 - Definitely sounds and plays better than the current version.

00:38:067 - What about adding a note here ? (Same with 01:38:936 - etc)

00:46:545 (141,142,143) - Change them to k ? 1 -> To contrast with all the dons 2-> It will fit better with the high pitch of the music here 3-> To be consistent with 01:47:414 (342,343,344) -

01:10:567 - Why don't you put a note here as you did there 01:08:828 (211) - ?

01:18:501 (239) - Since you're mainly following the vocals, consider moving this note here 01:18:936 - .


02:12:414 (431,432,433,434,435,436) - Well all dons looks weird imo... But as you want.

02:33:719 (508) - This note shouldn't appear all of a sudden in this section, or if you want to keep it put doublets here 02:30:567 - and 02:32:306 - .

03:17:127 (40) - Same as 01:18:501 (239) - if you applied my suggestion

03:51:475 - Add a kat here and make 03:51:257 (164) - a don ?

[Oni]

01:16:545 (303) - Consider changing it to k to break the don chain here and marking the melody change.

01:38:610 - Add a not here ? To emphasize the little melody ? (Same for the other corresponding parts in the song if you do it ofc)

01:56:545 (496) - Change this to d to be consistent with 01:49:589 (470) -

03:15:436 - This note is weird imo, I had trouble playing it in my first try. I would simply remove it.


Nice little set ! Good luck for quick ranking :)
Topic Starter
Senritsu

Arrival wrote:

Hello Senritsu <3 Hi Arrival ♥

[General]

Currently, the SV for Muzukashii and Oni is 1.97, I believe this is not intended and due to the current taiko edit bug, so be careful when you update the map ! omg kill me

[Kantan]

00:15:560 (18) - Consider adding a note here, not only it fits and goes well with the music but it also breaks the monotony of a 2/1 rhythm. (04:05:170 - same here) but there IS a note? o3o

00:27:414 (34) - There is a lack of consistency here that is needed for a kantan imo. I'd put ddk just as you did here 00:49:588 (63,64,65) - . i dont see why consistency is needed on a song which has different kind of music lols

[Futsuu]

00:06:737 - Add a d here ? Feels weird without it imo. i want to make it different from Muzukashii, but i will think about this again later.

00:33:501 (69) - Try moving this note to 00:33:936 - , the current version makes a weird rythm imo, and moving this note here will fit better. 00:38:719 (82) - , same thing for this note if you follow this suggestion. agree. might have been a little tired when i mapped this

00:43:936 (95) - Delete this note ? Doesn't sounds well and if you remove it you'll have a nice build up towards the next part of the song. okay

01:20:893 (171,172,173,174,175) - This seems to be a difficuly spike a bit too high, you're going from a 1/1 and 2/1 rhythm to suddenly 5 1/2 notes. Consider deleting one of them. (I think of this note for exemple 01:21:328 (173) - ) i dont think that's a problem, because (1) it's a slow song and (2) the kiai part at the beginning can't be mapped any harder for this diff. but i will consider it also, thanks!

03:52:127 - To be consistent in this part, either add a k here OR delete this one 03:45:170 (37) - my fault

04:11:040 (1) - End this spinner here 04:19:953 - ?? Thats what you did in the Kantan. since i made muzu and oni also ends at the same spot at futsuu so i will change the kantan.

[Muzukashii]

00:15:649 (31,32,33) - Well you should have a note on the red tick (00:15:913 - ), so I suggest moving the triplet by one 1/4 tick later. It plays better too imo. idk current one sounds fine for me, so lets see what other modders think about this

00:33:284 (94) - Move this note here 00:32:849 - , this note 00:35:023 (100) - here 00:34:588 - , and this 00:36:762 (106) - here 00:36:328 - Definitely sounds and plays better than the current version. uhhh dunno if i want this but.... this suits my style sooo...

00:38:067 - What about adding a note here ? (Same with 01:38:936 - etc) i purposely making them different because the second part is way merrier than the first one

00:46:545 (141,142,143) - Change them to k ? 1 -> To contrast with all the dons 2-> It will fit better with the high pitch of the music here 3-> To be consistent with 01:47:414 (342,343,344) - yeah agree

01:10:567 - Why don't you put a note here as you did there 01:08:828 (211) - ? for break, and also to make it not weird. if i add a note there, then the consequence is i have to follow the vocal on this part, meaning it same with Oni which i dont want to make

01:18:501 (239) - Since you're mainly following the vocals, consider moving this note here 01:18:936 - . changed. idk why i did that


02:12:414 (431,432,433,434,435,436) - Well all dons looks weird imo... But as you want. because you mention it, im changing to ddkdkd

02:33:719 (508) - This note shouldn't appear all of a sudden in this section, or if you want to keep it put doublets here 02:30:567 - and 02:32:306 - . i have my reasons here, but if more modders are complaining about this i will change this.

03:17:127 (40) - Same as 01:18:501 (239) - if you applied my suggestion

03:51:475 - Add a kat here and make 03:51:257 (164) - a don ? no absolute reason to do so, also im giving break here lols

[Oni]

01:16:545 (303) - Consider changing it to k to break the don chain here and marking the melody change. but the rest of my diff are don :(((

01:38:610 - Add a not here ? To emphasize the little melody ? (Same for the other corresponding parts in the song if you do it ofc) i dont hear anything lols and i think it's better this way to emphasize the not-little one but emphasize what's audible for us

01:56:545 (496) - Change this to d to be consistent with 01:49:589 (470) - im emphasizing the vocal pitch's difference so

03:15:436 - This note is weird imo, I had trouble playing it in my first try. I would simply remove it. thanks for the suggestion i was also confused with this lol


Nice little set ! Good luck for quick ranking :)
it's not a little set, but thank you!
Raphalge
15:28 Raphalge: heyy snow song show is really fun :D
15:28 Senritsu: whoa thanks >w<
15:28 Raphalge: 03:15:877 - this part sounds a bit weird tho
15:28 Senritsu: oh what diff? lol
15:29 Raphalge: oni
15:29 Senritsu: ah yeah that part
15:30 Senritsu: any suggestion on that part?
15:31 Raphalge: 03:16:230 (41) - it's mostly this note that sounds a tiny bit early
15:33 Senritsu: should i do 1/6 then
15:34 Raphalge: 03:16:671 - this part here sounds like 1/6 to me yeah
15:35 Senritsu: or 1/3
15:35 Raphalge: ye
15:35 Raphalge: 1/3 sounds even better
15:35 Senritsu: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6804242 how about this?]
15:37 Senritsu: thanks for mentioning that and for playing my map xD do you have any other thing to mention?
15:38 Raphalge: nah the rest felt pretty damn good
15:38 Senritsu: kk then thankyou~
15:38 Senritsu: savelog it and get your kds
15:38 Senritsu: o3o
15:38 Raphalge: :o
15:38 Senritsu: yeah im serious :O
15:43 Raphalge: actually are you sure the timing doesn't change?
15:43 Senritsu: where?
15:43 Raphalge: at the same part
15:44 Raphalge: o nvm
15:44 Raphalge: updated and it looks good now
15:44 Senritsu: ah
15:44 Senritsu: wait
15:44 Senritsu: now you mention it
15:45 Senritsu: i messed up
15:45 Senritsu: orz
15:46 Raphalge: ???
15:46 Senritsu: bpm shouldve changed here 03:15:171
15:46 Senritsu: 03:15:171 -
15:46 Raphalge: wowo
15:46 Senritsu: accidentally placed on 03:16:910 -
15:46 Raphalge: so i actually noticed that
15:47 Senritsu: yeah and i dont
15:49 Senritsu: im literally a failure on mapping a multiple bpm song lol
15:49 Raphalge: it's hard
15:49 Raphalge: that's why i always steal timings :>
15:50 Senritsu: i stole it
15:50 Senritsu: from rui's set
15:50 Senritsu: but idk how i messed up at the end
15:51 Raphalge: http://puu.sh/sPhnW/1a115001ff.jpg idk if this might work
15:52 Raphalge: or with just the first two doubles
15:53 Senritsu: whoa it's 1/6
15:53 Raphalge: spooky
15:53 Senritsu: yeah it is
15:56 Raphalge: ok with the timing change everything looks good now
15:56 Senritsu: i also changed that part a little bit
15:57 Raphalge: nice
Essey6
Greetings from my modding queue!

Kantan:
  • 00:11:325 (13) – This should be a Don, to match with 00:10:266 (12) – and 00:01:796 (2,3) –
    00:27:849 (35) – I think this should be a Kat, because it’s of higher pitch than the other Kats before it.
    01:01:980 (80,81) – I thought Kantans weren’t allowed to use 1/2 ? I could be wrong… Regardless, this should be KD because they’re higher pitch than 01:00:893 (79) –, and is similar to 01:08:936 (92,93) -
    01:02:632 (82) – This should be a Don, because it’s a lower pitch.
    01:03:719 (83) - ^^
    01:06:110 (88) – I think this would sound better as a Kat.
    01:13:936 (100,101) – I think these should be switched.
    01:18:284 (105) – I think this should be a Kat, because it’s of similar pitch to the other Kats before it.
    01:28:719 (120,121) - ^^
    02:04:806 – There should be a Don here, to match up with 02:07:849 (170,171,172) –
    02:09:588 (173,174) – I think this would sound better if they were switched.
    02:11:328 (175,177) – These should be Kats to match up with previous.
    02:11:762 - ^^
    02:17:414 (184) – This should be Don, to match up with 02:20:893 (189) –
    02:25:241 (195,196) – DKD, just like before.
    02:29:588 – to 02:52:215 - This section should match up with 01:00:893 – to 01:16:545 –
    02:56:128 (236,1) – The spinner should start at the Kat.
    03:31:692 (41) – Don?
    03:35:170 (45) – Don?
    03:36:910 (48,50) – Dons?
    03:39:518 (51) – Kat?
    04:10:823 (90,1) - The spinner should start at the Kat.


Futsuu:
There's a lot of streams (probably not the correct term) in 1/2 that go over the limit of 3. I'm pretty sure that the BPM allows them (and you're going to tell me that repeatedly), but I pointed them out anyways because I'm not sure whether I'm correct in the fact that they're wrong, or I'm just being picky. Sorry in advance!
  • 01:03:284 (134,135,136,137) – I’m pretty sure that in Futsuu, rhythms like this aren’t allowed? Again, I could be wrong, but I suggest sticking with the “3 only” rule. Maybe delete 01:03:284 (134) -?
    01:10:458 (152,153,154,155,156) – Again, I’m pretty sure this isn’t allowed. I suggest deleting 01:11:110 (155) –
    01:13:936 (158,159) – Switch?
    01:20:893 (169,170,171,172,173) – You know what I’m gonna say. I suggest deleting 01:21:545 (172) –
    01:25:241 (181) – I think this would sound better as a Don.
    01:31:328 (195,196,197,198,199) – You know. Delete 01:31:545 (196) –
    01:41:762 (222,223,224,225,226) - ^^
    01:43:501 (227,228) – These should be switched the match the pitches.
    02:07:849 (14,15,16,17) - … 02:08:067 (15) – delete.
    02:18:936 (46) – Delete.
    02:19:154 (46) – Kat?
    02:21:762 (52,53,54,55,56) – Sorry if pointing this out is annoying, especially if I end up being wrong. Delete 02:21:980 (53) –
    02:25:241 (62,63,64,65,66) - ^^
    02:28:936 (72) – Delete.
    02:29:154 (72) – Don?
    02:29:588 – to 02:52:215 - This section should match up with 01:00:893 – to 01:16:545 –
    03:16:910 – If any changes were made, apply here also.
    03:34:083 (9) – Delete.
    03:36:257 (14) - ^^
    03:39:301 (22) - ^^
    04:10:823 (81,1) – The spinner should start at the Kat.


If I came off as rude or mean, I'm sorry :?:? I'm not trying to!!
Finally, a Christmas song I like :lol::lol::lol: Good luck with ranking!
Nwolf
weff

[General]

First timing point should be 00:00:737 - and 3/4 and can also have a lower volume (50%)

03:44:736 - Add another timing point here to resnap first beat.

Other parts could have increased volume, tried in kiai and it sounded a little bit too quiet. 75-80% should be enough.
03:00:348 - This one should have same volume as intro and maybe the ones before this too.

Edit the .osu so SV is 1.4


[Kantan]

OD4, HP7 (long song).

00:03:913 (4,5,6) - 00:12:384 (14,15,16) - don't have consistent rhythm.

00:17:435 (21) - Unsnapped.

00:19:588 - Would rather have a don here instead of 00:23:501 (29) - to allow bigger breaks, the Kantan is very continuous atm.

00:27:414 (35) - Maybe move this to 00:26:545 - and change it to don to stay consistent with ^

00:32:197 (43) - 00:35:675 (47) - 00:39:154 (51) - 00:44:371 (57,58,59) - are all good notes to remove to have a few breaks in Kantan. The part is also calmer, so making a difference is always nice.
> 01:33:067 (126) - 01:36:545 (130) - 01:40:024 (135) - 01:45:241 (142,143,144) - ^

00:56:980 - Missing a don.
> 01:50:893 - 01:57:849 - ^
> 02:25:675 - ^ kat

01:01:980 (80,81,82,83,84,85) - Would change this whole thing to kk d dd k to reflect pitch better.

01:05:458 (86,87,88) - Consider dd k for this too, to make this friendlier for Kantan. 1/2 is rare!

01:17:414 (104) - Delete, break before kiai!

01:20:458 - Add a don, move 01:21:328 (109) - to 01:22:197 - and change to kat. If the previous version of this was applied, of course!

02:02:632 (164) - Similar to the other calmer part, but I would suggest moving this to 02:04:806 - here instead so it's a little bit more dense. Need to make a few differences to follow the song!
> 02:06:110 (168) - 02:13:067 (177) - ^ but since there's a note already, probably just delete this.
> 02:09:588 (173) - ^ (move)

02:20:893 (188) - Kat to stay consistent? Or make 02:21:762 (189) - kat for ~variation~

02:24:371 (193,194) - First kat, 2nd don. To stay consistent.

02:28:719 (198,199) - This is another good spot for break.

02:30:675 (201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209) - Same as before.

02:52:197 (231) - Unsnapped.
02:52:197 (231,232,233,234,235) - Would also change all of these to big kats cause more interesting.

03:00:324 (2) - Unsnapped too.

03:03:524 (5,6) - Inconsistent with intro.

03:19:084 - Final kiai, allows an extra don here. (Actually it's in the other kiai too C: )
03:26:040 - ^

03:33:866 - Nice spot for a don too

03:45:605 (60,61) - Because it was so intense until now: Players deserve a break. Generally adapt this to similar parts, maybe make it slightly more dense.
03:58:649 - From here: Make it less dense! (aka like other parts)

04:11:040 (1) - Could go 1/1 longer to the end of sound (04:19:953 - )


[Futsuu]

OD4.5, HP6

00:03:560 (4,5,6,7) - 00:12:031 (19,20,21,22) - Same as Kantan.

00:22:197 - Consider adding a don to make 3/2 less awkward to hit

00:31:762 (64,67) - Same as Kantan: Good spots to remove notes to make this part less dense. All of these are, in my opinion, very good spots to let players recover. 64 removal is also based on 00:35:893 -
> 00:35:241 (73) - ^
> 01:32:197 - Same as above, same as Kantan.

00:39:371 (83) - Remove as well for similar reasons.

00:41:110 (83) - Move to 00:41:545 - .

00:46:545 (93,94) - Change to kat to make the big don easier to play?

00:50:675 (102) - Intentional inconsistency?

01:01:328 (124,125,126,127) - 01:03:284 (129,130,131,132) - 01:05:023 (134,135,136,137) - Stick to one rhythm please? In the next part, too.

01:17:197 (158,159) - Break before kiai : D

01:22:414 (170) - Rhythm is hard to catch and doesn't make that much sense, it works 01:22:197 - here too (as kat) and flows more naturally.

01:23:284 (172,173) - Without more notes, the first one feels out of place and the 2nd note literally follows nothing (at least that's how I feel), so maybe try to move 01:23:936 (173) - to 01:23:719 - here.

01:24:588 (175) - Doesn't follow anything, would rather remove.

01:26:545 (179) - Move to 01:25:675 - and change 01:26:110 (178) - to don to stay consistent with beginning of kiai.

01:56:762 (251) - Inconsistent with previous version of this part intentional?



Okay sorry, I'm exhausted already and I actually need to prepare at least a little bit for upcoming exam. So just general things: Improve consistency in everything after this part, fix issues I mentioned already that repeat, don't make the Futsuu easier - spread is actually fine. Things that are similar in fixing between Kantan and Futsuu, can be applied in Futsuu (02:52:197 (16,17,18,19,20,21,22) - for example. ALSO UNSNAP)

[Muzukashii]

More to come.

00:31:328 - Again, could be used a little bit better for resting. Actually fine right now, what's very disturbing are 00:37:197 (108,109,110) - all of these triplets, which don't seem to fit into the song.
Topic Starter
Senritsu

poots_mcgoots wrote:

Greetings from my modding queue!

Kantan:
  • 00:11:325 (13) – This should be a Don, to match with 00:10:266 (12) – and 00:01:796 (2,3) –
    00:27:849 (35) – I think this should be a Kat, because it’s of higher pitch than the other Kats before it. not changing because i want a variation here. k k k would be boring :3
    01:01:980 (80,81) – I thought Kantans weren’t allowed to use 1/2 ? I could be wrong… Regardless, this should be KD because they’re higher pitch than 01:00:893 (79) –, and is similar to 01:08:936 (92,93) - they are allowed, as long as there are plenty breaks after and / or before the patterns
    01:02:632 (82) – This should be a Don, because it’s a lower pitch.
    01:03:719 (83) - ^^
    01:06:110 (88) – I think this would sound better as a Kat.
    01:13:936 (100,101) – I think these should be switched. not changing because the notes after take the impact. if its changed then the whole part has to be changed and the emphasizing is gone
    01:18:284 (105) – I think this should be a Kat, because it’s of similar pitch to the other Kats before it. not changing because emphasizing the first kiai, D > K for me lols
    01:28:719 (120,121) - ^^ same tbh i just want to follow the vocal change
    02:04:806 – There should be a Don here, to match up with 02:07:849 (170,171,172) – added k instead
    02:09:588 (173,174) – I think this would sound better if they were switched. no?
    02:11:328 (175,177) – These should be Kats to match up with previous. need variations w
    02:11:762 - ^^
    02:17:414 (184) – This should be Don, to match up with 02:20:893 (189) – variation + vocal
    02:25:241 (195,196) – DKD, just like before. ^
    02:29:588 – to 02:52:215 - This section should match up with 01:00:893 – to 01:16:545 –
    02:56:128 (236,1) – The spinner should start at the Kat. no theres still cymbal there qwq
    03:31:692 (41) – Don? why?
    03:35:170 (45) – Don? vocal?
    03:36:910 (48,50) – Dons? vocal sounds cheerful
    03:39:518 (51) – Kat? low pitch
    04:10:823 (90,1) - The spinner should start at the Kat. no why

    Futsuu:
    There's a lot of streams (probably not the correct term) in 1/2 that go over the limit of 3. I'm pretty sure that the BPM allows them (and you're going to tell me that repeatedly), but I pointed them out anyways because I'm not sure whether I'm correct in the fact that they're wrong, or I'm just being picky. Sorry in advance! thats ok! we're learning here so no need for apologize!
    [list:1337]01:03:284 (134,135,136,137) – I’m pretty sure that in Futsuu, rhythms like this aren’t allowed? Again, I could be wrong, but I suggest sticking with the “3 only” rule. Maybe delete 01:03:284 (134) -?
    01:10:458 (152,153,154,155,156) – Again, I’m pretty sure this isn’t allowed. I suggest deleting 01:11:110 (155) –
    01:13:936 (158,159) – Switch? nope for flow
    01:20:893 (169,170,171,172,173) – You know what I’m gonna say. I suggest deleting 01:21:545 (172) – this pattern is easy to play and the bpm isnt that high like you said so..
    01:25:241 (181) – I think this would sound better as a Don.
    01:31:328 (195,196,197,198,199) – You know. Delete 01:31:545 (196) –
    01:41:762 (222,223,224,225,226) - ^^
    01:43:501 (227,228) – These should be switched the match the pitches.
    02:07:849 (14,15,16,17) - … 02:08:067 (15) – delete.
    02:18:936 (46) – Delete. this is fine bcs enough breaks
    02:19:154 (46) – Kat?
    02:21:762 (52,53,54,55,56) – Sorry if pointing this out is annoying, especially if I end up being wrong. Delete 02:21:980 (53) – thats alrite! but im not changing either :P
    02:25:241 (62,63,64,65,66) - ^^ ^
    02:28:936 (72) – Delete. ^
    02:29:154 (72) – Don? no for flow
    02:29:588 – to 02:52:215 - This section should match up with 01:00:893 – to 01:16:545 –
    03:16:910 – If any changes were made, apply here also.
    03:34:083 (9) – Delete. qwq
    03:36:257 (14) - ^^
    03:39:301 (22) - ^^ QWQ
    04:10:823 (81,1) – The spinner should start at the Kat. no changing


If I came off as rude or mean, I'm sorry :?:? I'm not trying to!! youre not. youre being really nice
Finally, a Christmas song I like :lol::lol::lol: Good luck with ranking!

Ntiger wrote:

weff

[General]

First timing point should be 00:00:737 - and 3/4 and can also have a lower volume (50%)

03:44:736 - Add another timing point here to resnap first beat. i dont know if this is really necessary or no o_o

Other parts could have increased volume, tried in kiai and it sounded a little bit too quiet. 75-80% should be enough.
03:00:348 - This one should have same volume as intro and maybe the ones before this too. yay the timing broke

Edit the .osu so SV is 1.4


[Kantan]

OD4, HP7 (long song). kk im bad at these

00:03:913 (4,5,6) - 00:12:384 (14,15,16) - don't have consistent rhythm.

00:17:435 (21) - Unsnapped. probs bcs you changed the timing

00:19:588 - Would rather have a don here instead of 00:23:501 (29) - to allow bigger breaks, the Kantan is very continuous atm.

00:27:414 (35) - Maybe move this to 00:26:545 - and change it to don to stay consistent with ^

00:32:197 (43) - 00:35:675 (47) - 00:39:154 (51) - 00:44:371 (57,58,59) - are all good notes to remove to have a few breaks in Kantan. The part is also calmer, so making a difference is always nice. only deleted 00:44:371 (54,56) -
> 01:33:067 (126) - 01:36:545 (130) - 01:40:024 (135) - 01:45:241 (142,143,144) - ^

00:56:980 - Missing a don.
> 01:50:893 - 01:57:849 - ^
> 02:25:675 - ^ kat

01:01:980 (80,81,82,83,84,85) - Would change this whole thing to kk d dd k to reflect pitch better.

01:05:458 (86,87,88) - Consider dd k for this too, to make this friendlier for Kantan. 1/2 is rare!

01:17:414 (104) - Delete, break before kiai!

01:20:458 - Add a don, move 01:21:328 (109) - to 01:22:197 - and change to kat. If the previous version of this was applied, of course! not changing to kat but moved

02:02:632 (164) - Similar to the other calmer part, but I would suggest moving this to 02:04:806 - here instead so it's a little bit more dense. Need to make a few differences to follow the song!
> 02:06:110 (168) - 02:13:067 (177) - ^ but since there's a note already, probably just delete this.
> 02:09:588 (173) - ^ (move)

02:20:893 (188) - Kat to stay consistent? Or make 02:21:762 (189) - kat for ~variation~ applied the second one

02:24:371 (193,194) - First kat, 2nd don. To stay consistent.

02:28:719 (198,199) - This is another good spot for break.

02:30:675 (201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209) - Same as before.

02:52:197 (231) - Unsnapped.
02:52:197 (231,232,233,234,235) - Would also change all of these to big kats cause more interesting.

03:00:324 (2) - Unsnapped too.

03:03:524 (5,6) - Inconsistent with intro.

03:19:084 - Final kiai, allows an extra don here. (Actually it's in the other kiai too C: )
03:26:040 - ^

03:33:866 - Nice spot for a don too

03:45:605 (60,61) - Because it was so intense until now: Players deserve a break. Generally adapt this to similar parts, maybe make it slightly more dense.
03:58:649 - From here: Make it less dense! (aka like other parts) imo current one is already denser than the prev parts, so im keeping it for now. the next part will be denser again because the music keep disappearing

04:11:040 (1) - Could go 1/1 longer to the end of sound (04:19:953 - )


[Futsuu]

OD4.5, HP6 really bad at these things

00:03:560 (4,5,6,7) - 00:12:031 (19,20,21,22) - Same as Kantan.

00:22:197 - Consider adding a don to make 3/2 less awkward to hit

00:31:762 (64,67) - Same as Kantan: Good spots to remove notes to make this part less dense. All of these are, in my opinion, very good spots to let players recover. 64 removal is also based on 00:35:893 -
> 00:35:241 (73) - ^
> 01:32:197 - Same as above, same as Kantan.

00:39:371 (83) - Remove as well for similar reasons.

00:41:110 (83) - Move to 00:41:545 - .

00:46:545 (93,94) - Change to kat to make the big don easier to play?

00:50:675 (102) - Intentional inconsistency?

01:01:328 (124,125,126,127) - 01:03:284 (129,130,131,132) - 01:05:023 (134,135,136,137) - Stick to one rhythm please? In the next part, too.

01:17:197 (158,159) - Break before kiai : D removed the first one

01:22:414 (170) - Rhythm is hard to catch and doesn't make that much sense, it works 01:22:197 - here too (as kat) and flows more naturally.

01:23:284 (172,173) - Without more notes, the first one feels out of place and the 2nd note literally follows nothing (at least that's how I feel), so maybe try to move 01:23:936 (173) - to 01:23:719 - here.

01:24:588 (175) - Doesn't follow anything, would rather remove.

01:26:545 (179) - Move to 01:25:675 - and change 01:26:110 (178) - to don to stay consistent with beginning of kiai.

01:56:762 (251) - Inconsistent with previous version of this part intentional?



Okay sorry, I'm exhausted already and I actually need to prepare at least a little bit for upcoming exam. So just general things: Improve consistency in everything after this part, fix issues I mentioned already that repeat, don't make the Futsuu easier - spread is actually fine. Things that are similar in fixing between Kantan and Futsuu, can be applied in Futsuu (02:52:197 (16,17,18,19,20,21,22) - for example. ALSO UNSNAP)

[Muzukashii]

More to come.

00:31:328 - Again, could be used a little bit better for resting. Actually fine right now, what's very disturbing are 00:37:197 (108,109,110) - all of these triplets, which don't seem to fit into the song.

thank you very much both of you, especially Ntiger!
no reply means applied! ;v;
Renka
I will do it modding today..sorry late;;

hi.from forum PM,for M4M(I chose Kantan and Muzukashii)

[ about]
  1. d is don note
  2. k is kat note
  3. D is Finish don note
  4. K is Finish kat note

  5. Purple is UnRankable , Please change
  6. Green is I would strongly recommend
  7. black is Pointed out that



[ General]
  1. Please uncheck the Widescreen Support


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[ Kantan]
  1. 00:17:000 (20) - delete? - I don't think that it is necessary
  2. 01:01:980 (76) - - remove? - I think this is difficult for Kantan.
  3. 01:02:197 (76) - change k? - If you adopt the above.
  4. 01:03:719 (79) - ^
  5. 01:05:458 (82) - ^
  6. 01:08:936 (85) - same as above.
  7. 01:10:675 (88) - ^
  8. 01:28:284 (111) - move to 01:26:545 - ? - 01:28:719 (112,113,114) - You can emphasize the sound of vocals.
  9. 01:24:806 (106) - change d? - if you adopt the above
  10. 01:38:719 (123) - remove?
  11. 02:13:067 (168) - remove? - I think that it is better to follow the previous pattern
  12. 02:25:675 (185) - change d? - There's no particular sound to emphasize
  13. 02:30:675 (192) - ~ same as above
  14. 02:40:023 - ~ 02:52:215 (222) - It is almost the same as Futsuu,So, try deleting these 02:40:892 (209) - ,02:42:631 (211) - ,02:44:371 (213) - ...
  15. 03:59:518 (82) - ,04:01:257 (84) - ,04:02:996 (84) - ,04:04:736 (85) - delete? - I think that notes is spreading compared to ordinary,I think that balance will be improved by deleting these
    Kantan
    Futsuu


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[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:58:610 (170) - change k? - I think that it sounds better?
  2. 01:01:328 (178) - ^
  3. 01:04:588 (189) - change k? - Prevent overlapping of color schemes?
  4. 01:16:545 (225,226,227,228) - kddk? - I think that it is better to follow the previous pattern
  5. 01:48:283 (329) - change k?
  6. 01:52:523 (343) - change d? - Since the vocal is down.
  7. 01:59:480 (365) - ^
  8. 01:59:805 (366) - ^
  9. 02:37:632 (494) - change k?
  10. 02:38:284 (496) - ^
  11. 02:39:806 (502) - ^
  12. 03:23:323 (62) - change d? - Since the vocal is down.
  13. 03:41:692 (127,128,129) - kdk? - I think that this one fits the sound.



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sorry late good luck~
Topic Starter
Senritsu

chaica wrote:

I will do it modding today..sorry late;;

hi.from forum PM,for M4M(I chose Kantan and Muzukashii)

[ about]
  1. d is don note
  2. k is kat note
  3. D is Finish don note
  4. K is Finish kat note

  5. Purple is UnRankable , Please change
  6. Green is I would strongly recommend
  7. black is Pointed out that



[ General]
  1. Please uncheck the Widescreen Support


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[ Kantan]
  1. 00:17:000 (20) - delete? - I don't think that it is necessary
  2. 01:01:980 (76) - - remove? - I think this is difficult for Kantan. sufficient break, it's fine
  3. 01:02:197 (76) - change k? - If you adopt the above.
  4. 01:03:719 (79) - ^
  5. 01:05:458 (82) - ^
  6. 01:08:936 (85) - same as above.
  7. 01:10:675 (88) - ^
  8. 01:28:284 (111) - move to 01:26:545 - ? - 01:28:719 (112,113,114) - You can emphasize the sound of vocals.
  9. 01:24:806 (106) - change d? - if you adopt the above
  10. 01:38:719 (123) - remove? no change for now
  11. 02:13:067 (168) - remove? - I think that it is better to follow the previous pattern
  12. 02:25:675 (185) - change d? - There's no particular sound to emphasize
  13. 02:30:675 (192) - ~ same as above
  14. 02:40:023 - ~ 02:52:215 (222) - It is almost the same as Futsuu,So, try deleting these 02:40:892 (209) - ,02:42:631 (211) - ,02:44:371 (213) - ...
  15. 03:59:518 (82) - ,04:01:257 (84) - ,04:02:996 (84) - ,04:04:736 (85) - delete? - I think that notes is spreading compared to ordinary,I think that balance will be improved by deleting these i think the current one is fine owo
    Kantan
    Futsuu


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[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:58:610 (170) - change k? - I think that it sounds better?
  2. 01:01:328 (178) - ^
  3. 01:04:588 (189) - change k? - Prevent overlapping of color schemes?
  4. 01:16:545 (225,226,227,228) - kddk? - I think that it is better to follow the previous pattern intentionally lols
  5. 01:48:283 (329) - change k? consistency owo
  6. 01:52:523 (343) - change d? - Since the vocal is down. it is not? owo
  7. 01:59:480 (365) - ^ ^
  8. 01:59:805 (366) - ^ ^
  9. 02:37:632 (494) - change k? intentionally because the flat vocal
  10. 02:38:284 (496) - ^ ^
  11. 02:39:806 (502) - ^ ^
  12. 03:23:323 (62) - change d? - Since the vocal is down. it's rising
  13. 03:41:692 (127,128,129) - kdk? - I think that this one fits the sound.



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sorry late good luck~
no reply means fixed

thanks for mod!
ptar124
didn't quite rank this on the 25th I see. Anyways, will mod this soon.
edit2: From the Christmas mod queue! (how did I forget to mention)
You're not serious with the 1/2s are you. And there are lots of 1/1 quintuplets. I wouldn't recommend that at all. This is too hard a Kantan, don't believe the SR.

Onosakihito wrote:

Typical for a Kantan is the usage of 1/1 notes and 2/1 spaces or above, which gives the new player the possibility to prepare himself for the next patterns.A Kantan contains not many notes, and even the 1/1 are not frequently used.
it's not too bad. In fact the hitsounds are VERY nice in this diff, just that lots of things are overdone.
00:15:560 (24,25,26) - this can throw beginners off, might need nerfing

01:20:893 (155,156,157,158,159) - could be too much for futsuu. Given the low bpm, this should be fine, but it is still pretty hard.

There are lots of 1/2 quintuplets in this diff, with a lot of color changes too. Even at 138bpm, this will be challenging.

Other parts of the map are very nicely done, I got no comments.
00:22:088 (54,55) - Ctrl+G?

00:37:414 (106,107) - please make this like the other parts, it's an outlier that doesn't really fit.

Okay, I'll stop here. No way I'm going to be able to mod this without ruining the map style. Your map may or may not be bad, it's just that I can't really mod this without completely taking it apart and build it up again. In the end, us mappers like and don't like different things. Since you are already an experienced taiko mapper, I don't think this is an issue with map quality. Might be an issue with the two of us having very different mindsets (and thus why I didn't like this diff too much).

One thing I can be sure is that the fast parts with lots of drum beats are what you map best but the soft parts sound really problematic.
00:31:328 (115) - a big don might be better to end that d_k_d_k_d_k_d motif you have going on for that earlier part of the song

00:37:197 (143) - may want to consider that. I'm not really a fan of monochromatic doublets, especially when 2 sounds are different. I do understand that 00:36:980 (142) is of a lower pitch but a dk in this case might work better.

00:39:262 (154,155) - this, is where a monochromatic doublet sounds nicer. There really isn't any change in pitch because there is only one note played. In addition, how this is mapped out repeats kd for two times and makes it really redundant (because you will repeat this kd pattern for so many more times). A dd would fit this better. Apply this to other places with similar patterns as you find appropriate

00:47:197 (189) to 01:00:458 (237) - this part of the song has way too many kats as opposed to dons. Try to add a little bit more dons to that, without enough dons, the existing dons will stand out too much and emphasize those beats more than it probably should.

I think 01:09:588 (276,277,278) or 01:07:849 (268,269,270) sounds better than 01:04:371 (254,255,256) in a lot of ways. It's not problematic so it's up to you (I mean, the whole mod is up to you but this is more up to you than the others :D)

01:30:458 - this space is an abrupt pause, you might want to add something in there

02:30:566 (663,664) - again with the monochromatic doublets

Pretty decent overall, a lot of hitsounds that I personally don't quite like that wasn't mentioned. I don't really like to throw in mods and just say "I don't like it, fix that". I don't really know what was wrong with some of the parts I don't like so they weren't mentioned.

edit: the SV for the beginning part should be slower. In Muzu right now it (at 170bpm) is faster than the normal SV (at 138bpm)
Raediaufar
[Oni]
HP 6? soalnya ini lagu durasinya lama dan ditambah part akhir yg bpm nya lumayan kenceng kayaknya susah deh kalo dikasih HP 7

00:05:678 (11) - ganti jadi d? soalnya ini low pitch sih

00:14:148 (29) - sama kek diatas

00:15:560 - ini sebenarnya lebih pas dibikin 1/6 sih, jadi 1/6 ddddk dari 00:15:560 - sampai 00:15:795 -

00:22:632 (69) - delete, soalnya di part ini 00:28:175 - kamu ngasih break pas vokalnya lagi jeda juga

00:38:936 (152,153) - ctrl + g? lebih pas sama pitch nya itu

00:40:675 (161,162) - ^

00:42:414 (170,171) - ^

00:47:414 (190) - d? biar ngepas sama patternmu yg 00:48:501 (194,195,196,197,198,199) - dan 00:50:241 (201,202,203,204,205,206) - soalnya suaranya sama dan dua pattern itu juga dibikin sama jadi lebih baik yg disini juga dibikin sama

01:02:849 (247,248) - d, lebih pas sama pitch vokal

01:26:545 (354) - lebih pas snap kesini 01:26:654 -

01:48:284 (465) - d, sama kek di part yg tadi sih, biar ngepasin sama pattern disini 01:49:371 -

01:51:544 (478,479) - ctrl + G, piano nya masih ada disini 01:51:545 - , dan suaranya sama kayak 01:51:111 (476,477) -

02:01:545 (520) - d, disini pitch musiknya lebih rendah

02:15:132 (586) - snap ke 02:15:241 - , kk kemudian kkkd cukup membingungkan patternnya

02:27:632 (649,650) - kd lebih sama musik

02:29:371 (657) - k, imo lebih pas ke vokal

02:31:545 (667) - d, lebih pas ke vokal

03:10:936 (27) - k, vokalnya sama kek 03:10:583 (26) -

03:28:323 (68) - k, dan delete 03:28:432 (69) - soalnya aku lihat kamu full ikut vokal disitu

03:34:518 (98) - k, ada suara snare drum

03:44:192 - add k, soalnya suara "sparkle" nya udah jelas disitu jadi rasa aneh kalo nggak di add note sama sekali

03:55:823 (208,209) - ctrl + g, biar gk sama kek di 03:54:083 - patternnya, dan 03:57:996 (220) - taroh di k, soalnya pitch nya tinggi disini

[Muzukashii]
HP: 5.5

00:12:031 - d k k d k lebih pas sama musik

00:26:328 (68) - d lebih cocok sih disini

00:26:980 (70) - d, dibandingkan 00:27:197 (71,72,74) - pitchnya itu lebih rendah

00:37:414 (106) - snap ke 00:37:306 - dan add d di 00:37:632 - ngepasin ritme sebelumnya

01:03:393 (186) - k, lebih pas sama vokal

01:21:110 - add k lah, disini ada vokal dan aneh kalo ada breaknya

01:32:958 (280) - d lebih cocok ke musik sih ini

01:40:241 (304) - d, dibanding k lebih cocok d ini

02:00:241 (370) - delete, gk ngikut vokal apa apa ini sedangkan di part ini kamu ngikut vokal kecuali pas kddk 01:58:067 (362,363,364,365) - (dan ini bukan part yg sama dengan part kddk)

02:11:762 (407,408) - ctrl + g, lebih ngepas sama suara "sparkle" di backgroundnya, disini 02:08:719 (398,399,400,401) - kamu juga ngikut ke pitch nya sparkle

02:28:936 (464) - delete, imo ini pattern kepanjangan sih dan ditambah diakhir juga ada finisher yg bikin part ini lumayan susah

03:10:936 (26) - k, sama pitch vokalnya dengan 03:10:583 (25) -

03:18:867 (46) - delete aja sih ini, gk ngikut ke vokal apa apa

03:37:344 - suggest add d disini, disini 03:33:540 (97,98,103,104) - kamu juga naroh duplet di part vokal yg 1/4

03:41:910 - add d, alasan sama kek diatas

03:50:823 (165) - snap ke sini 03:50:931 - lebih daripada kamu bikin kkk disitu

03:56:910 - sebenarnya gpp sih disini kamu pattern nya ngikutin ritme kek pattern sebelumnya, soalnya agak aneh dibikin 1/1 gitu karena musiknya gk berubah disini

[Futsuu]
00:45:675 (89) - delete, agak aneh karena sebelumnya pattern kamu 2/1 dan musiknya gk beda jauh juga disini sama yg disitu

00:53:284 (103) - delete. gk ngikut apa apa ini not

01:14:806 (144,145) - ctrl + g, lebih pas pitch nya sama vokal

01:21:545 (156) - k, karena ini 5 not berurutan bagusnya dibuat yg lebih enak diread

01:35:240 (185,186,187) - dkk lebih pas sama musik

01:39:153 (194) - k, lebih ngepas sama musik

01:40:457 (196) - d lebih pas imo

01:43:719 - add d? soalnya ada suara sparkle di musiknya

01:54:153 (14) - delete, nggak ngikut apa apa ini

02:07:849 (13) - d, lebih pas sama vokal

02:52:215 - kalo mau ini bisa dikasih finish semua kat nya, karena gap antar notnya 2/1 masih aman aja sih buat futsuu, tapi kalo nggak mau bisa dikasih di 02:52:215 (1,7) - aja ya yg penting dikasih finish lah di part ini soalnya beatnya kuat banget disitu

03:20:171 (35) - k, biar lebih mudah di read

03:30:605 (3) - karena ini 03:30:823 (4) - finisher, bagusnya di delete aja

03:38:866 (20) - k, biar lebih mudah di read

[Kantan]
01:01:980 (76,77) - gue gatau apa 1/2 emang bisa dipake di kantan tapi kalo menurut gue delete aja deh ini, berlaku juga bagi 1/2 yg lain

01:57:849 (149) - k, ddd rasa aneh disini soalnya musiknya gk semuanya low pitch disini

02:40:893 - add k, dan juga dibikin 2/1 aja breaknya disini, gk usah 4/1. Jadi add note juga di 02:42:632 -, 02:44:371 -, 02:46:110 - , 02:47:849 - , 02:49:588 - , 02:51:328 -

02:52:215 - ritmu nya aneh banget deh disini, ikutin pattern futsuu aja tapi gk usah di finish (kalo kamu apply mod yg kasih finish itu)

03:36:910 (52) - d, vokalnya juga udah end disini jadi aneh kalo dikasih k
[R]
yo

[Muzukashii]
01:03:067 - change kat, pitchnya berbeda dengan 01:03:393 -
01:08:610 (203,204,205) - change don, alunan di part ini dominan don. biar emphasize vocal di 01:09:154 -
01:53:067 - ada perubahan pitch disini coba ganti kat, kalo diterapkan 01:54:371 - bisa ganti don
02:38:284 (494,495,496) - coba salah satu notenya diubah kat, terlalu banyak don disini

02:52:541 - gw sih merasa d d d lebih enak break di 02:53:193 - ,tapi yang sekarang ok lah
03:12:700 - change don ?
03:25:823 - delete ?

03:37:453 - mending pasang delete, pasang kat di 03:37:344 - biar breaknya lebih jelas
03:50:714 (163,164) - move 03:51:040 -

[Oni]
00:23:067 - delete, spot yang pas buat kasih rest
00:56:545 (224,225) - change don, vocal disini 00:57:197 - pitchnya berbeda
01:23:936 - delete ?
02:37:741 - delete ?
03:36:910 - delete ?
03:41:692 - | 03:41:910 - | 03:42:344 - mungkin bisa ganti kat untuk variasi

yah mungkin cuma segitu aja
good luck
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