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Mir
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Seijiro
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10:09 *MrSergio is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1139249 CELLON - Labyrinth of Darkness [Lost]]
10:09 Mir: how do you not ctrl+s
10:09 Hhank19: Idk...
10:09 Hhank19: I want to flip my table
10:10 Hhank19: coz I did this SB 2 ducking times
10:11 Jakomo73: mir ur mapping :ok_hand:
10:11 Mir: LOL
10:11 Mir: i tried an extra
10:11 Mir: idk if i did well ;w;
10:11 *Hhank19 is screaming on top of his lung
10:11 Jakomo73: i mean it LOL i like ur maps <3
10:11 Mir: aw ty <3
10:12 Hhank19: ;-;.....why osu?
10:13 Jakomo73: hhank did u dl storybrew btw?
10:14 Jakomo73: cause i can make ur spectrum generator in like a second with that
10:14 Jakomo73: particle*
10:14 Hhank19: I use dem ducking storybrew
10:14 Hhank19: thats how I lose my osb file
10:15 Hhank19: I exported it immaturly
10:15 MrSergio: heh, 200 BPM stream as first play wasn't a smart move
10:15 Jakomo73: ohhhh
10:15 Mir: xD
10:16 Jakomo73: well hhank what do u want ur particle generator to do?
10:16 Mir: i have to move this 01:07:958 (1) -
10:16 MrSergio: 00:10:928 - till here you can easily use just one single pattern repeated several times for consistency's sake
10:16 Mir: everyone misread it
10:16 Mir: Meh
10:16 Hhank19: Jakomo73 whats the point...the file is missing
10:16 MrSergio: 00:20:433 - and till here you can add a second one and do the same
10:16 MrSergio: consistency is weak in that part
10:16 Mir: I feel like if I just patterned it the same for 10 seconds
10:16 Mir: it would get REALLY repetitive
10:17 MrSergio: you didn't tho. Just using the same rhythm is not what I mean
10:17 MrSergio: the song IS repetitive
10:17 Mir: Oh
10:17 MrSergio: 00:01:424 - 00:02:612 - this is one pattern
10:17 Mir: yeah
10:18 MrSergio: but it's not consistent right now
10:18 MrSergio: wait
10:18 Mir: but it's not meant to be o.o
10:18 Blookies: hello? uhh i need help with mapping my beat map..
10:18 Mir: i change pattern every measure
10:18 *Blookies is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1133075 Lukasz Pych - Windows XP Hip-Hop Beat]
10:19 Blookies: Yes. a windows xp map
10:19 Mir: windows xp hip hop beat oh boy
10:19 Blookies: boii
10:19 Jakomo73: camellia remix when?
10:19 Blookies: waiting for someone to help me
10:19 Blookies: meanwhiel playing
10:19 *Blookies is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1112840 NBGMusic - Your Baby Daddy's Best Nightmare]
10:20 Blookies: i mean
10:20 MrSergio: Mir: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6659951
10:20 *Blookies is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1121362 SilvaGunner - Title Theme & Ending - 7 GRAND DAD [GO MY WAY!!!]]
10:20 MrSergio: just an example, it can be better, obviously
10:20 MrSergio: but you take that pattern and repeat it or either make it evolve in some way
10:20 MrSergio: what you have right now is pretty much "let's go with the flow"
10:21 Mir: I kinda get what you mean
10:22 Mir: but my gut just tells me I don't wanna do it x.x
10:22 MrSergio: 00:24:740 (5) - shouldn't this be similar to 00:24:889 (6,7) - ?
10:22 Mir: yes it should
10:22 unko: My personal uggestin is to ditch this and install window xp on ur personal p c computer
10:22 MrSergio: 00:34:245 (4) - same thing
10:22 Kibbleru: am i boosted
10:22 MrSergio: 00:39:295 - wait, this is way it played strangely
10:23 MrSergio: why*
10:23 Blookies: can any boii help me with myee map?
10:23 Hhank19: I hate my ducking life ;-;
10:23 Mir: the gap?
10:23 MrSergio: yeah
10:23 Kibbleru: yea
10:23 Kibbleru: i can
10:23 Kibbleru: wot do u need
10:23 *Blookies is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1133075 Lukasz Pych - Windows XP Hip-Hop Beat [Easy]]
10:23 MrSergio: there is a note in there
10:24 Blookies: modding and other
10:24 MrSergio: 00:46:275 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - it's the same stuff as this, more or less
10:24 Blookies: yep a windose ex's pee
10:24 Kondou-Shinichi: can anyone help with timing :<
10:24 Mir: I don't hear a note there
10:24 Mir: tbh
10:24 Mir: but
10:24 Mir: After listening on 25% i hear it so i'll map it :x
10:25 Kibbleru: i wouldnt recommend cs 5 on easy diff
10:25 Kibbleru: also follow DS
10:25 MrSergio: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6659975 try it]
10:25 Hhank19: Someone reccomend me a good song please
10:25 Jakomo73: cs 10 is the only cs for an easy tbh
10:26 Mir: seems good
10:26 MrSergio: 01:07:216 (2,1) - duh
10:26 Mir: yeah i already moved it
10:27 Mir: ;w;
10:27 Hhank19: grr...
10:27 *Hhank19 walks away
10:27 MrSergio: 01:16:003 (1) - circles work better
10:27 Mir: alright
10:28 MrSergio: 01:45:235 (3) - the beat on the white ticks gets wasted like this
10:28 MrSergio: 01:45:087 (2,3) - ctrl +g (rhythm-wise)
10:28 Kondou-Shinichi: don't wanna do any homework :<
10:29 Blookies: So. anyone finally help me? ;-;
10:29 Mir: done
10:29 Kibbleru: i did :d
10:29 Kibbleru: use CS 3 or something for easy
10:29 Kibbleru: also stick with distance snap
10:30 MrSergio: 02:24:740 (4) - if you remove this guy you better focus the attention on the next pattern. Moreover, that sound is too faint to be that relevant o,p
10:30 MrSergio: imo*}
10:30 Blookies: i have grid snap distance snap and 1/4
10:30 Kibbleru: as long as its tiny grid its fine
10:30 Mir: but i like that sound ;w;
10:30 Kibbleru: idk what u mean by distance snap 1/4
10:31 Kibbleru: thats the beat snap divisor i think ur talking about
10:31 Kibbleru: [http://puu.sh/suUyS/1c52b19c0d.jpg this is distance snap]
10:31 MrSergio: 03:23:107 (8,1) - similar to...00:39:146 -
10:31 Mir: mhm
10:31 MrSergio: and the above one was an "IF"
10:32 MrSergio: imo it's better without it, but it's your map
10:32 Mir: ah
10:32 Mir: i'd rather keep it in
10:33 Mir: cuz after all that 4/1 stuff you'd probably expect another beat there
10:33 Hhank19: If if if if if if if
10:33 Kondou-Shinichi: hi
10:33 Mir: not*
10:33 Mir: expect
10:33 MrSergio: no, that's actually a good counter-point
10:33 MrSergio: it breaks the 4/1 rhythm
10:33 MrSergio: and also the spacing
10:34 Hhank19: MrSergio can you time the map I just gave you today? :3
10:34 Mir: mhm
10:34 MrSergio: 02:23:998 (3,4) - this spacing is visually the same as 02:22:810 (2,3) -
10:34 MrSergio: yet 02:23:998 (3,4) - are 5/2 apart, while 02:22:810 (2,3) - are 4/1 apart
10:34 MrSergio: Hhank19: not really, unless you are a god of mapping and that map is going to turn out into a masterpiece
10:34 Mir: it's linking me weird things
10:35 Hhank19: ;-;
10:35 Hhank19: ok
10:35 Mir: i don't really get it x.x
10:35 Mir: did you nc anything?
10:35 MrSergio: you basically didn't use DS there
10:35 MrSergio: I didn't touch a single thing lol
10:35 Mir: probably was me rip
10:35 Mir: also yeah i didn't use ds
10:36 Mir: I probably should..
10:36 Mir: but it'd be like
10:36 Mir: 0.01x
10:37 Mir: and I don't know how to do DS with a value that low
10:37 Jakomo73: When a value is greater then or equal to another >=
10:37 MrSergio: use smaller snaps lol
10:37 MrSergio: http://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/T52eVR7W
10:37 MrSergio: place all of them at 1/2 apart and space them
10:37 Mir: oh
10:37 MrSergio: then move them on the timeline
10:38 MrSergio: just don't make that stuff you did in my screen
10:38 Mir: okay
10:38 Blookies: MrSergio
10:38 MrSergio: ah, Mir, 02:24:740 (4) - the beat on the tail is strongher, which makes it awkward to play, that's why I wanted it removed
10:39 Blookies: MrSergio. can you help me too?
10:39 Mir: i feel it first if the active note is placed at the beginning of the sound even if the sound is stronger on the end
10:39 Mir: it fits*
10:39 MrSergio: Mir didn't ask for anything tho. Please do 1 + 1
10:40 Blookies: oh well i need to map everything for myself
10:40 MrSergio: well, that was my final attempt to make you change that, rip
10:40 Mir: sowwy ;w;
10:41 MrSergio: 02:45:087 (8) - maybe give it a strange shape, due to the strange sound it represents
10:41 Mir: speaking of that slider
10:41 Mir: i need to slow it to 1.0x
10:42 Mir: also bent it a bit
10:42 MrSergio: 02:54:592 (1) - ah, same as this?
10:42 Mir: yeah
10:42 MrSergio: even just a simple sharp angle works, instead of the curve
10:42 Mir: mhm, red anchor bend :3
10:43 MrSergio: well, I guess that's more or less what I can point out from the testplay
10:43 Mir: that's not as bad as I thought it would be tbh
10:43 MrSergio: keep in mind structure needs some more thinking tho. In other words, planning
10:44 Mir: could you give an example?
10:44 MrSergio: those first 20 secs
10:44 Mir: in the map*
10:44 MrSergio: it was the first thing I pointe out
10:44 MrSergio: pointed
10:44 Mir: oh right
10:45 Mir: i feel like the structure is fine there o.o
10:45 MrSergio: it generally applies to later parts too, just with more pattern variety
10:45 MrSergio: heh... with time you will get the details that make a difference I guess. I can't really show you what I mean since there are too many possibilities
10:46 Mir: fair enough x.x
10:47 *Lumy is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1140078 Powerless - Frey's Philosophy]
10:47 Mir: Thanks for the help Sergio <3
10:47 Lumy: does my extra is well ?
10:47 C00L: england much
10:47 MrSergio: and I was supposed to finsh my other BN check requests...
10:47 Lumy: i see that's kind of unbalanced into the std diff
10:47 MrSergio: aaaa
Korey
I suck at modding

Jukke's

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I'll just try and focus on the important stuff since you seem to be lacking structure and emphasis, test playing is probably the best way to improve your flow. blankets, polygons and visual spacing are good for structure.

01:01:488 (7,8,9,10,1) - you should differentiate these softer streams somehow from 01:02:973 (9,10,11,12,1) - these streams

00:58:517 (1) - you could probably make this slider faster and then go back to 1.5x on 00:58:963 -
00:59:854 (5,6,7) - this is dumb, rethink it by listening to the music
01:00:448 (1,2,3) - why does 2 have high spacing and then 3 low spacing when the music doesnt suggest that?
01:01:785 (1,2) - more spacing
01:02:676 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - the way you have this stream mapped atm, all the notes have the same spacing besides 9 which you did to show the change in the music but, 1. it looks bad 2.you should have lower spacing into higher spacing to emphasis it correctly.
01:03:270 (1,1) - looks ugly, end slider on 01:03:715 -
01:04:309 (5) - straight slider looks bad here
01:04:607 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - lower spacing and then have the spacing increase for 01:05:200 (5,6,7) - try and think about each placement and why they do/do not make sense
01:05:646 (8) - change to 1/1 slider
01:06:091 (2,3,4,5,6) - this plays bad imo testplay to find flow you like but i suggest changing the rhythm. 01:06:537 (3,4,5,6) - id just do 3/4s here personally. slider should definitely start on 01:07:280 - though
01:07:725 (8,10) - kick sliders on 8 and 10 would represent the melody better
01:09:359 (1,2,3) - spacing way too high
01:11:438 (9) - why is there a kick slider here? 01:11:289 (8) - id put a 1/2 slider here
01:11:735 - should not be skiping over this
01:13:369 (2,3) - dont you normally have streams here? what is this all of a sudden
01:14:111 (5,6,7,8) - lower spacing
01:16:339 (1,2) - why is this stacked?
01:16:562 (2) - change to a 1/2 slider and add a 1/2slider at 01:16:785 - 01:17:007 -
01:17:230 (7,8,9,10) - stream shouldnt start until here and the jump to 7 uncalled for by the music

edit:i suck at wording things sorry just ask me if you dont understand/disagree with anything
Jukkii

ikorza wrote:

I suck at modding

Jukke's

SPOILER
I'll just try and focus on the important stuff since you seem to be lacking structure and emphasis, test playing is probably the best way to improve your flow. blankets, polygons and visual spacing are good for structure.

01:01:488 (7,8,9,10,1) - you should differentiate these softer streams somehow from 01:02:973 (9,10,11,12,1) - these streams dont really understand what you mean by differentiating when theyre already different

00:58:517 (1) - you could probably make this slider faster and then go back to 1.5x on 00:58:963 - did so
00:59:854 (5,6,7) - this is dumb, rethink it by listening to the music made it more like a triangle
01:00:448 (1,2,3) - why does 2 have high spacing and then 3 low spacing when the music doesnt suggest that? i made it bc i thought it looked nice, fixed spacing difference
01:01:785 (1,2) - more spacing [color=#40FF00yea boi[/color]
01:02:676 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - the way you have this stream mapped atm, all the notes have the same spacing besides 9 which you did to show the change in the music but, 1. it looks bad 2.you should have lower spacing into higher spacing to emphasis it correctly. personally it doesnt look too bad, made the part after 9 have higher spacing
01:03:270 (1,1) - looks ugly, end slider on 01:03:715 - i made it 3/4 for emphasis (also it was smexy dude)
01:04:309 (5) - straight slider looks bad here fixed
01:04:607 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - lower spacing and then have the spacing increase for 01:05:200 (5,6,7) - try and think about each placement and why they do/do not make sense well ill trust you on this one, to me these notes sound really similar so i couldnt think of making the spacing get higher as it goes (this is a problem with me, i have like the opposite of perfect pitch hearing, i think its like being colorblind but with sound)
01:05:646 (8) - change to 1/1 slider fixed
01:06:091 (2,3,4,5,6) - this plays bad imo testplay to find flow you like but i suggest changing the rhythm. 01:06:537 (3,4,5,6) - id just do 3/4s here personally. slider should definitely start on 01:07:280 - though i dont really agree, but i did make a slider 3/4 and added a note to the white tick
01:07:725 (8,10) - kick sliders on 8 and 10 would represent the melody better no, i dont think so
01:09:359 (1,2,3) - spacing way too high made it a bit easier to play, but kept the spacing relatively same
01:11:438 (9) - why is there a kick slider here? 01:11:289 (8) - id put a 1/2 slider here 01:11:374 (1) - moved this to the red tick and made it longer and changed where it is
01:11:735 - should not be skiping over this if iwas skipping something before its not skipping anything anymore
01:13:369 (2,3) - dont you normally have streams here? what is this all of a sudden it seems i tried to follow the bassline, fixed that with a stream
01:14:111 (5,6,7,8) - lower spacing lowered it a little
01:16:339 (1,2) - why is this stacked? unstacked
01:16:562 (2) - change to a 1/2 slider and add a 1/2slider at 01:16:785 - 01:17:007 - fixed
01:17:230 (7,8,9,10) - stream shouldnt start until here and the jump to 7 uncalled for by the music fixed but the music did call for the jump with the melody (basically stream followed the drums and the jump followed the melody, it works because you can aim the streams in a similar way to sliders like the ones that were before, but whatever)

edit:i suck at wording things sorry just ask me if you dont understand/disagree with anything

ok thanks for mod fam
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