m-flo + daoko - IRONY (el poco maro Remix)

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Kawa

Reazen wrote:

BNs? Where are BNs?? wtf.
Great map :) I am playing this everyday idk why xD
Playable storyboard <333333
+kudos ( Kudos matters right?.. right?..)
Thank you! The BNs are all hiding somewhere far, far away... ;w;
Kawashiro
hello there! glad to meet u! i am kawa too :3
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  1. 03:44:318 (3) - hmm, skipping 03:44:659 - this sound seems not a good idea. how about use same beats at 03:38:693 (2,3,4,5,6) - here?
  2. 03:48:068 (2) - same as above. u can hear sounds at 03:48:323 - here too. maybe u can use 3circle stream at here
  3. 03:50:795 (2) - following vocal seems bad idea. cuz only there used 1/3. and u didn't used 1/3 at 03:52:159 - here even this point has same vocal beat
  4. 04:11:420 (3,4,1) - that also weird. pretty weird. at first, 04:11:590 - you skipped here even it has vocal and hi-hat sounds. and you should know 04:11:420 (3,4) - these part isn't same as like 04:13:977 (2,3) - here. and 04:12:102 - here also have hi-hat. how about just use simple 1/2 beats?
  5. 04:29:147 (4,5) - this should be 1/1 slider like 04:23:693 (3) - this?


btw did u make this sb? i rly luv it XD

GL ></
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Kawa

Kawashiro wrote:

hello there! glad to meet u! i am kawa too :3
Hello there fellow Kawa person o3o/ Just so we're clear here, I'm the real Kawa!
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  1. Cool mod


btw did u make this sb? i rly luv it XD
I did! I'm glad you like it~
GL ></
Thanks for modding! I'll make sure to leave a full proper reply once I get back home from a trip on 24.9.2017.
I checked your points really quick and most of them make sense~ I'll fix everything and leave feedback once I come back :3

Thanks for your patience and sorry for keeping you waiting!
Renumi
that storyboard is so beautiful, i really hope you get this to approval sometime ;o;7
Hathz

Kawashiro wrote:

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  1. 04:11:420 (3,4,1) - that also weird. pretty weird. at first, 04:11:590 - you skipped here even it has vocal and hi-hat sounds. and you should know 04:11:420 (3,4) - these part isn't same as like 04:13:977 (2,3) - here. and 04:12:102 - here also have hi-hat. how about just use simple 1/2 beats? Changed slightly.
Thank you.
Topic Starter
Kawa

Renumi wrote:

that storyboard is so beautiful, i really hope you get this to approval sometime ;o;7
Thank you! I'm really working on it but I feel like this mapset might not be unique enough to seem interesting to most BNs or something... I have no idea ;w;

Kawashiro wrote:

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  1. 03:44:318 (3) - hmm, skipping 03:44:659 - this sound seems not a good idea. how about use same beats at 03:38:693 (2,3,4,5,6) - here?
    At first I used a return slider there because I had trouble coming up with a decent pattern and because I thought it added some variation to the rhythm. Changed the return slider to single circle -> triple rhythm to stay consistent with the rest
  2. 03:48:068 (2) - same as above. u can hear sounds at 03:48:323 - here too. maybe u can use 3circle stream at here
    While I agree changing this return slider to the same rhythm as before could work, I decided to keep it as it is now because I believe using a simpler pattern/rhythm right before the 1/4 jump pattern 03:48:750 (4,5,1) - feels more comfortable to play.
  3. 03:50:795 (2) - following vocal seems bad idea. cuz only there used 1/3. and u didn't used 1/3 at 03:52:159 - here even this point has same vocal beat
    Improvised some 1/3 rhythm in the section from 03:51:818 - to 03:52:840 - to stay consistent with the 1/3 section before it but I could really use more feedback on this change
  4. 04:29:147 (4,5) - this should be 1/1 slider like 04:23:693 (3) - this?
    I prefer to keep it this way. 04:23:693 (3) - I used a 1/1 slider here as a lead-in for the "sleepy vocals" and the slider pattern following right after it 04:24:545 (1,2,3) - while I kept 04:29:147 (4,5) - as a 1/2 slider + circle because the increased note density after the first section. Using a slower 1/1 slider here while everything else aside from the emphasized stronger downbeats uses 1/2 would feel inconsistent and awkward.
Thank you again for modding and I'm sorry it took me so long to get back and reply! :)
Secretpipe
when qualified
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Kawa

Secretpipe wrote:

when qualified
Become BN again and qualify kthx
Kibbleru
wow a moddingv1 lol

00:21:136 (2,3) - a bit nazi but i would put some more space here to make it look more visually consistent
06:48:409 (5,1) - ^
00:42:975 (3,4) - is my osu broken or something or is every1 just making these obscene snappings to snap stuff to vocals now? add more timing points instead.
05:16:406 (3,2) - ^
00:54:588 (2) - 05:05:497 (1) -
yeah please don't do this, its not good practice, if u really need add timing points instead

01:37:159 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - i'd recommend something similar to what hathz did instead 00:31:875 (3,4,5) -
01:56:420 (3) - try this?

02:15:852 - i recommend mapping this out here, it would give some more contrast to the symmetry stuff ur doing next measure
02:49:772 (3,1) - can u make this overlap look..nicer?
04:11:420 (3,4,5) - this is.. kind of weird, please just map the drums here
04:36:392 (4,5) - why is this stacked so weirdly
07:05:454 (1,5) - this is kinda unecessary, u really dont need to perfect stack here, try something else please



metadata n stuff
Topic Starter
Kawa

Kibbleru wrote:

wow a moddingv1 lol
It's an old mep <w<;

06:48:409 (5,1) - ^
I honestly have no idea how I could let that pass... Reworked the pattern a bit to look more visually appealing
05:16:406 (3,2) - ^
Fixed by snapping the sliders 05:16:406 (3) - and 05:19:119 (2) - to the dominant white ticks before them. While the sound they follow seems a tiny bit delayed, I believe it would be impossible to notice mid-gameplay and would be better to stay consistent with the rest of the map rather than making separate timing points for each sound, especially in sections such as 05:15:681 - where the player would normally assume the gap between all 3 objects is the same
01:37:159 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - i'd recommend something similar to what hathz did instead 00:31:875 (3,4,5) -
Sounds good, changed the pattern & rhythm by swapping around some sliders and circles to match it while still flowing well into the next part.

metadata n stuff
Fixed metadata a bit after doing some research (Changed from m-flo & daoko - IRONY (el poco maro remix) to m-flo + daoko - IRONY (el poco maro Remix)
I'm gonna add this to the beatmap desc for now just in case
  1. Song announcement
  2. Official m-flo channel


The remix part is a bit hard to confirm since the el poco maro deleted his official soundcloud and any direct links to his work or profile.
He's most commonly referred to with no capital letters while his "Remix" is capitalized both on most websites and on several ranked maps so I fixed it accordingly.
  1. This is the closest thing I could find


Any points not mentioned here will be addressed by Hathz once he comes online~

Thank you so much for modding! :)
Hathz

Kibbleru wrote:

00:21:136 (2,3) - a bit nazi but i would put some more space here to make it look more visually consistent ok
06:48:409 (5,1) - ^
00:42:975 (3,4) - is my osu broken or something or is every1 just making these obscene snappings to snap stuff to vocals now? add more timing points instead. ok
00:54:588 (2) - 05:05:497 (1) -
yeah please don't do this, its not good practice, if u really need add timing points instead
i really need
01:56:420 (3) - try this? ok
02:15:852 - i recommend mapping this out here, it would give some more contrast to the symmetry stuff ur doing next measure ok
02:49:772 (3,1) - can u make this overlap look..nicer? i guess
04:11:420 (3,4,5) - this is.. kind of weird, please just map the drums here fine
04:36:392 (4,5) - why is this stacked so weirdly becaused otherwise osu will auto-stack the 2nd circle in the opposite direction of the slider which is not what i want
07:05:454 (1,5) - this is kinda unecessary, u really dont need to perfect stack here, try something else please changed slightly..
thx
Kibbleru
ok
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Kawa
omg i love you
-mint-
move to pending? lol
Kibbleru

qqqant wrote:

move to pending? lol
doesnt matter.
Kibbleru

Kawa wrote:

omg i love you
np bby
Uta
i see kawa i press favorite
Gabe

qqqant wrote:

move to pending? lol
just because im retarded and i like when things are organized, i moved it there :3c

good luck with the map!!
Reazen
Ranked please ._.
-Mo-
General
- 00:42:975 - 05:05:496 - Not convinced extra red lines are the correct way to remedy these. Will check with other people about this, though you could try ask/fix things too.

- 05:16:363 (3) - Sounds like it's too early, for example. Plus all of the sounds in the break 05:08:223.
- 05:15:681 - Red line here is also making it so the downbeat is off by half a measure, it makes much more sense having the downbeat on the piano chords. You end up resetting the metronome later anyway, when it's these red lines causing a problem in the first place.

Storyboard
- 03:16:363 - 05:05:496 - Stars in a night sky are static, so they should move across the sky at the same speed. But for some reason you have some stars moving faster and overtaking other stars which is eehh.

- blur2.jpg and mblur2.jpg usused.

Hathz
- 00:19:602 (2,3,4) - I guess I understand why the stacks are different, but I still can't help but feel that it looks weird aesthetically. I think you could get away with stacking them the same since it's early in the map and it's still possible to read based on approach circles, or you could just change the pattern to avoid doing this altogether.
- 01:51:818 (1) - Emphasis on the head of this seems underwhelming since low spacing and previous slider points staight into it. Easiest fix is Ctrl+H and increase spacing, but do whatever.
- 02:29:999 - Lower SV would've been cool for this section but I guess it's fine if you don't want to change.
- 04:16:704 (2,4,1) - Stacks are doing weird thinigs here. Turn on View -> Stacking and make it so first two sliders are neatly stacked.
- 06:24:545 (1) - Similar to before, emphasis is kinda lacking because spacing and previous slider.
- 06:55:568 (5) - Could Ctrl+H so overlap is avoided.
- 06:57:272 (1) - Linear slider like this just seems really out of place since most of this section is using regular curve sliders. Something like this I could see as being more suitable:

- 07:06:477 (5) - Off blanket, might as well fix.

Kawa
- 01:36:732 (6) - Stack is broken.
- 04:23:181 (1,3) - Could avoid this overlap if you wanted.
- 04:25:908 (1) - This sort of slider just seems kinda weird to use especially for a 1/2 without any significant sound on it. I would just keep it a regular shape pointing leftwards.
- 04:31:363 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Would be cooler if the 1/4 spacing was consistent through this.
- 05:33:068 (2,3) - Reducing spacing for this thing all of a sudden seems kinda odd.
- 06:50:625 (2) - I think there are better choices than doing an overlap like this. For example, this could be stacked on the tail, and then you could move 06:50:454 (1) to stack with 06:49:772 (3).

Pop is for timing concerns, happy to rebubble when that's resolved.
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