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DragonForce - Fallen World

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Weriko
182 posts
Joined December 2015
Topic Starter
Weriko
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 9:18:29 PM

Artist: DragonForce
Title: Fallen World
BPM: 55
Filesize: 6659kb
Play Time: 04:02
Difficulties Available:
  1. Fallen (8.42 stars, 1811 notes)
Download: DragonForce - Fallen World
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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(220bpm alert, rip fingers if you arent a.... pro finger..er?)
nvm no legend cuz no know how to mep aaa

wahooo
another insane map
Bg and timing stolen from original map

dont know how to upload a map
waaaat ifff doennn to kze myzelf

ILL DO A CS5 DIFF (called legend) WITH LINEAR FLOW SOMEDAY TOO BCUZ ITS FEKING DRAGONFORCE

heh
Last edited by Weriko , edited 13 times in total.
Hollow Delta
793 posts
Joined March 2015
Hollow Delta
Requested I mod this.

00:21:285 (2,3,4) - The player is going to be pushing into this sliders, because of this I don't think it would play well because of the fact the player could push out of the boundaries of the follow circle. ctrl+g on each slider.
00:21:558 (3,4) - These also have a higher pitch than the previous 2 sliders. Maybe increase the SV here?
00:24:830 (3,4) - ^ I'll stop pointing these out, as the rise in pitch is very blatant, so I'll let you decide whether you fix it or nah.
00:25:376 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - These seem a bit out of place cause they're perfectly vertical, plus they don't play very well because when the player is snapping between each one, they're going to push forward a bit, and thus sliderbreak. I suggest angling them away from each other a bit. http://puu.sh/sDjH6/08f8d50c66.jpg
00:28:376 (5,6) - This change from counter-clockwise flow to clockwise on a weak note seems very awkward to me. I suggest moving 6 to somewhere around x:361 y:380 to give you an idea of what I'm thinking.
00:29:740 (1) - I personally thought it was a bit awkward to give the player this temporary muscle memory, only to contradict it on a weak note. This doesn't play very good. I suggest rotating the whole pattern 00:29:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - so 1 overlaps 00:29:330 (4) -
00:38:467 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I suggest making this pattern rotate counter-clockwise instead so it plays better.
00:40:786 (3,4,5,6) - This rhythm doesn't compliment the song very well. I suggest deleting 6 and moving everything forward by 1 red/white tick. Then place a hit circle at the empty spot 00:40:785 - here.
00:49:921 (3,4,5,6) - Why the change in direction on a weak note? I suggest ctrl+g on each slider so it rotates the other way.
00:49:103 (1) - Why did you put NC here? To me the NC seems a bit inconsistent.
00:55:649 (9,10) - ctrl+g so the notes continue flowing in the same direction. Keeping it how it is contradicts the direction we're fixed in.
00:57:012 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The rhythm is 'du du bu du du b du du'. The way you mapped it suggest it's 'bu du bu du' Consider changing this part.
02:18:421 - I suggest adding a green line here and lowering the volume, this verse seems a bit loud.
02:31:649 (1,2) - With the direction the stream was aiming in, and how much exaggeration is here, this direction felt a bit weird. ctrl+g
02:32:058 (1,2) - ^
02:38:740 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - This part doesn't really fit to me. Why not just continue the stream, but makes this section a very quiet, short-in-length stream?02:49:308 (5,6) - Some weird overlap thing going on. It doesn't look intentional. Fix?

Overall the streams were nice, and the patterns play really well. My main concern was over some of your rhythm choices. For the most part, it looked like you were mapping to the ticks, rather than the song itself.

Other than that, good luck on the map.
Garden
Nomination Assessment Team
1,343 posts
Joined June 2013
Garden
irc mod
2016-12-05 09:47 Weriko: aaaa hi
2016-12-05 09:47 Weriko: do you want to mod another map :p?
2016-12-05 09:48 Garden: ok
2016-12-05 09:48 Weriko: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1138009 DragonForce - Fallen World]
2016-12-05 09:48 Weriko: here :3
2016-12-05 09:53 Garden:  much better rhythm choice than before :3
2016-12-05 09:57 Garden: 01:57:012 (1,3) - unstack them like previous patterns?
2016-12-05 09:57 Garden: 02:52:649 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - etc. u can actuallly improve those manual stacks 
2016-12-05 09:58 Garden: or u did them intentionally to create a feeling of chaos lol
2016-12-05 09:58 Weriko: actually
2016-12-05 09:58 Weriko: yeah
2016-12-05 09:58 Weriko: tried to make like a guitar sound but didnt work looks horrible lol
2016-12-05 09:58 Garden: but approaching circles really messed up xd
2016-12-05 09:58 Weriko: yeep
2016-12-05 09:58 Garden: yea lol
2016-12-05 09:59 Garden: 02:59:603 (4,5,6) - plays bad :<
2016-12-05 09:59 Garden: can replace 4,5 with a slider to follow guitar
2016-12-05 10:01 Garden: 03:19:853 (9,1) - 220bpm 1/4 gap + spacing
2016-12-05 10:01 Weriko: yeah that plays bad
2016-12-05 10:02 Weriko: ooops
2016-12-05 10:04 Garden: all for me00:30:830 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - also about the 1/3 rhyhthm part, u can also replace some circles with sliders to make them play much smoother
2016-12-05 10:04 Garden: uh ignore the ' all for me'
2016-12-05 10:05 Garden: lol
2016-12-05 10:05 Weriko: lel ok
2016-12-05 10:05 Garden: now thats probably all for me xD
Seijiro
osu! Alumni
3,438 posts
Joined April 2013
Seijiro
small talk about the map

not so good 10 minutes mod
00:10 Weriko: :`´c
00:10 MrSergio: :c
00:10 Weriko: you never answered me :´cccccccccccccc
00:10 MrSergio: ?.?
00:11 Weriko: about the map :çççççççççççççç
00:11 Weriko: am i that anoying :´ccccc?
00:11 MrSergio: ?.? (x2)
00:11 Weriko: ayy
00:11 MrSergio: consider that I crash often, so you might have sent me a PM right before a crash
00:12 Weriko: lel
00:12 Weriko: awe
00:12 MrSergio: or either I was afk and didn't notice the PM
00:12 Weriko: well i asked you if you could give me an opinion on this
00:12 *Weriko is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1138009 DragonForce - Fallen World]
00:12 Weriko: asd
00:12 MrSergio: recently I got too much DragonForce to listen to, dafuq
00:12 Weriko: lulz
00:12 MrSergio: I honestly started thinking that all their songs are the same in the end
00:13 Weriko: yep
00:13 Weriko: they are about the same
00:13 MrSergio: then mapping just one means mapping them all :D
00:13 *MrSergio runs*
00:13 Weriko: asdasdsff
00:13 Weriko: no cuz this one 220 bpm :cccc
00:13 MrSergio: first off, SV and AR just don't go together
00:14 Weriko: a
00:14 Weriko: only for that startç
00:14 Weriko: i hope
00:14 MrSergio: seems so
00:14 MrSergio: and this song has been mapped before :P
00:14 Weriko: lel
00:15 Weriko: :c
00:15 Weriko: butbut
00:15 Weriko: the other map is old :c
00:15 Weriko: and i like mine moar :c
00:15 MrSergio: 01:30:558 (4,1) - that change of circular movement doh
00:16 MrSergio: noticed just now, but 01:37:649 (1,2) - stuff like this pops up at random without any particular change into the song
00:16 MrSergio: is there a reason?
00:16 Weriko: o
00:16 Weriko: its guitar
00:17 MrSergio: 01:42:830 (2,5,8) - these notes should be more emphasized within that rhythm/pattern
00:17 MrSergio: 01:51:012 (1,2) - silence ends otherwise they just scartch my ears @.@
00:18 Weriko: ay ok
00:18 MrSergio: 01:51:830 (3,4,5) - triplets like this should start on a red tick, since the last note of the 3 will have the highest emphasis of them all
00:19 MrSergio: at least, that's how I perceive them
00:19 MrSergio: maybe they play differently
00:19 Weriko: a...
00:19 Weriko: well song triplets start on white tick
00:19 MrSergio: and it might be that you just need to fix the spacing
00:19 MrSergio: then yeah, this ^
00:20 Weriko: a
00:20 Weriko: okay
00:20 MrSergio: 02:04:649 (1,2,3,4) - I was waiting to see how this pattern would turn out, but in the end it is nothing much imo. Isn't there a better pattern? The difference with stream parts is way too big in note density
00:21 Weriko: o
00:21 MrSergio: 02:40:376 - these breaks aren't in the song
00:21 Weriko: well i kinda liked the movement because of voice
00:21 Weriko: but i will probably change
00:21 MrSergio: I know there is guitar
00:21 MrSergio: but uhhh... that stream falls entirely on drums
00:21 MrSergio: well, the whole song does
00:21 Weriko: well
00:21 Weriko: actually
00:21 Weriko: i was folllowing guitar ripperino
00:22 Weriko: but duh i might add a slider then
00:22 MrSergio: even repeat sliders are fine
00:23 MrSergio: actually, I encourage that
00:23 MrSergio: if you want to keep focus on guitar
00:23 MrSergio: but don't focus on that alone tho, because the note density is so high that even a 1/2 break has a big impact
00:23 MrSergio: not always, but you get it
00:24 Weriko: ok
00:24 MrSergio: 02:49:103 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - this is way too audacius lol
00:24 MrSergio: I mean
00:24 MrSergio: the snaps
00:24 MrSergio: 02:49:649 (9) - maybe NC
00:24 Weriko: holy
00:24 MrSergio: but you also need to make 02:49:649 (9,10,11,12) - a bit more noticeable, otherwise they seem the same stuff
00:24 Weriko: ok
00:24 MrSergio: even just repeat sliders work there
00:25 MrSergio: but I guess that wasn't your plan at all
00:25 Weriko: nop
00:25 Weriko: i wanted a fingerbreaker at that part
00:25 Weriko: but yeah ill make it more noticeable
00:25 MrSergio: 03:03:558 (1,2) - you should keep this rhythm for a bit longer
00:25 MrSergio: 03:03:967 (3,4) - this one should be the same as ^
00:25 MrSergio: in rhythm
00:26 Weriko: its funny
00:26 Weriko: because i was following the drums
00:26 Weriko: but ok
00:26 MrSergio: 03:03:558 - 03:03:967 - 03:04:376 - 03:04:649 - 03:04:921 - 03:05:330 - sliders, basically
00:26 MrSergio: 1/2, as you did for 03:03:558 (1) -
00:26 MrSergio: circles in the gaps
00:27 Weriko: hmm ok
00:27 MrSergio: duh, last one is misclick
00:27 MrSergio: last 2 sliders are good
00:27 MrSergio: 03:05:058 (2,4) -
00:27 Weriko: ok
00:28 MrSergio: that ending
00:28 MrSergio: holy
00:28 Weriko: ayyy
00:28 Weriko: that part is sooo intense
00:29 MrSergio: well, in general I can see consistency, which is good. Try to give some better structures, like the part where I linked where the sliders should go ^ and similar
00:29 Weriko: ok
00:30 Weriko: hmmm can you post this?
00:30 Weriko: im on my mac and well.... i cant make the changes here ;-;
00:30 MrSergio: ah, sure
Cerulean Veyron
2,090 posts
Joined August 2012
Cerulean Veyron
hi, light mod cuz i wanna farm kds thnx

[- - Fallen - -]
  1. 01:12:285 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 01:16:649 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Seriously though, why copying the same structure and rotating in a slight just for those jumps? It doesn't really suit best for me literally. And besides, it would've been better if you'd reconsider remaking it into something else rather than jumping in every second. At least give some care about flowing or patterning.
  2. 01:33:012 - Note density is a dependable subject based on distance spacing and placements. So uhmm starting from here, which is the circular streaming, is kinda downrating it. There are some streamings similar to this onee, but they were used a little different. But you could've done something greater than the current though...
  3. 02:33:694 (1,2) - The song track's guitar string intensity here sounds really good in my opinion, so try increasing the distance spacing here. NOT TOO MUCH, just as slight as the next jump on 02:33:967 (3,4) - .
  4. 02:48:285 (1) - Do you know? The slider's anchored slider points' placements too near and opposing it's direction... is unrankable? It kinda buzzes out the sliding position even though you're trying to follow some string on the song track, so I guess that didn't work well pretty much. As in, this would nearly confuse player's cursor movement. I highly recommend redoing this slider into more fitting.

okay nice 8*
Pittigbaasje
osu! Alumni
227 posts
Joined December 2012
Pittigbaasje
Hey!
Because you requested it and I think your map is cool.

[Fallen]
00:09:831 (3) - I'm really not sure about the return here. It felt a bit weird when I tested it.
00:11:195 (1,2) - there should be more spacing between these objects. (crucial)
00:12:490 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Felt forced. I feel like the bpm is too high to add a stream this long in a slow part like this.
00:18:762 (16,1,2) - this killed the flow for me personally. Then again, I'm not that good at streaming so could be just me.
00:21:831 (4,1) - this 1/4 transition from slider into stream with the direction the stream is going seems a bit too much. Maybe if you did the stream like this, it would play a lot nicer. http://puu.sh/t6gJo/28243a73fb.jpg
00:32:467 (1,2,3,4) - I don't think this plays nice
00:41:740 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - I personally would think it would be nicer if you mapped the vocals here instead of the guitar.
00:49:649 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this may be a little bit overmapped in the bad sense of the word.
01:03:012 (1,1) - consider adding more spacing between these two. (probably crucial, but could be defended I guess)
01:28:921 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think that this is overmapped in a bad way as well.
01:29:740 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - I feel like it would be nicer if you mapped this part to the vocals as well.
02:43:921 (1,2,3,4) - these should have equal spacing.
02:49:103 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2) - this looks kinda unplayable.
03:35:058 (1) - maybe this shouldn't be a slider but just 2 hitcircles.

Please keep in mind that most of these are just suggestions based upon my experience as a player. Feel free to discard them.

Watching the map really hypes me up. I hope I'll be good enough to pass it one day!
Good luck with the map.
-Pittigbaasje
Antares-
260 posts
Joined December 2012
Antares-
4 am irc mod i guess
2017-01-02 03:55 Weriko: DADDY
2017-01-02 03:55 Weriko: TESTPLAYU MY MAPPU DADDY
2017-01-02 03:55 Antares-: aaa
2017-01-02 03:55 Antares-: 4 am
2017-01-02 03:55 Weriko: EVEN BETTER
2017-01-02 03:55 Weriko: ITS LIKE
2017-01-02 03:55 Weriko: HARDCORE OSU PLAYING
2017-01-02 03:55 Antares-: im unable to do anything that requires coordination
2017-01-02 03:55 Antares-: sounds
2017-01-02 03:55 Antares-: epic
2017-01-02 03:56 Weriko: o
2017-01-02 03:56 Weriko: LOL
2017-01-02 03:56 Antares-: send and ill look in editor
2017-01-02 03:56 Antares-: or i can try but well i doubt i can survive longer than 2 secs
2017-01-02 03:56 Antares-: (:
2017-01-02 03:57 Weriko: :)
2017-01-02 03:57 Weriko: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1157377 Uetso Shi - firmament castle "velier"]
2017-01-02 03:57 Weriko: joke
2017-01-02 03:57 Weriko: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1138009 DragonForce - Fallen World]
2017-01-02 03:57 Antares-: wew even better
2017-01-02 03:57 Weriko: its the dragonforsu mappu
2017-01-02 03:58 Antares-: k i cant stream
2017-01-02 03:58 Weriko: ripperino
2017-01-02 04:01 Antares-: 00:43:853 - no sound here just sayin
2017-01-02 04:01 Antares-: just map it like other ones
2017-01-02 04:01 Antares-: cuz you skip rest of triples here anyways
2017-01-02 04:01 Weriko: o
2017-01-02 04:02 Weriko: i did that to emphasize
2017-01-02 04:02 Weriko: i think it fits
2017-01-02 04:03 Antares-: i dont see a thing to emphasize here but okkk
2017-01-02 04:03 Weriko: i do that a lot
2017-01-02 04:04 Weriko: for 1/2 vocals
2017-01-02 04:04 Weriko: or guitar sounds in some special spots
2017-01-02 04:04 Antares-: ok
2017-01-02 04:05 Antares-: 00:53:467 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this could be prettier :<
2017-01-02 04:05 Weriko: yeah
2017-01-02 04:05 Weriko: but then direction change wouldnt be that good
2017-01-02 04:06 Weriko: also
2017-01-02 04:06 Weriko: look at the hole stream
2017-01-02 04:06 Weriko: 00:53:467 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -
2017-01-02 04:06 Weriko: blanketing
2017-01-02 04:08 Antares-: 00:57:012 (1,5) - nc just those
2017-01-02 04:08 Antares-: and it would be way cleaner
2017-01-02 04:09 Weriko: ok
2017-01-02 04:09 Antares-: 01:21:012 -
2017-01-02 04:09 Antares-: wew
2017-01-02 04:11 Antares-: 02:06:830 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - this just cant flow good
2017-01-02 04:11 Antares-: that angle ugh
2017-01-02 04:11 Weriko: well
2017-01-02 04:11 Weriko: it can xd
2017-01-02 04:12 Weriko: no one had problems on that stream
2017-01-02 04:12 Antares-: well its just
2017-01-02 04:12 Antares-: uncomfortable looking at it
2017-01-02 04:12 Antares-: idk
2017-01-02 04:12 Antares-: 02:07:921 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - fix ds cuz im triggered
2017-01-02 04:12 Antares-: xd
2017-01-02 04:13 Weriko: watwat
2017-01-02 04:13 Antares-: well entire map is too spaced for me so idk
2017-01-02 04:13 Antares-: e
2017-01-02 04:13 Antares-: ds is unconsistent
2017-01-02 04:13 Weriko: well
2017-01-02 04:13 Weriko: idk
2017-01-02 04:14 Weriko: well
2017-01-02 04:14 Weriko: that spot is like just drums
2017-01-02 04:14 Weriko: and i felt like making it low ds
2017-01-02 04:14 Antares-: i meant make it all same ds ugh cuz now its off
2017-01-02 04:14 Antares-: stack
2017-01-02 04:15 Antares-: well whatever cuz its probably unnoticable by most ppl
2017-01-02 04:15 Antares-: im just
2017-01-02 04:15 Antares-: werd
2017-01-02 04:15 Weriko: wat
2017-01-02 04:15 Weriko: its not off D:
2017-01-02 04:15 Antares-: 02:08:057 (3,4) -
2017-01-02 04:15 Weriko: i converted slider lol
2017-01-02 04:15 Antares-: o.14
2017-01-02 04:16 Antares-: 02:08:330 (7,8) - same
2017-01-02 04:16 Weriko: well thats just osu doing sht
2017-01-02 04:16 Antares-: idk it looks off from
2017-01-02 04:16 Antares-: looking at it
2017-01-02 04:16 Antares-: does it even make sense
2017-01-02 04:16 Weriko: lol
2017-01-02 04:16 Weriko: sec
2017-01-02 04:16 Antares-: it doesnt
2017-01-02 04:16 Antares-: im half asleep already
2017-01-02 04:17 Weriko: o
2017-01-02 04:17 Antares-: 02:32:467 (1) - i like that part with linear bursts
2017-01-02 04:17 Weriko: lol
2017-01-02 04:17 Antares-: :)
2017-01-02 04:17 Weriko: :)
2017-01-02 04:18 Antares-: 03:31:921 (1,1,1,1,1,2) - owo
2017-01-02 04:18 Antares-: idk cant judge streams tbh
2017-01-02 04:18 Antares-: cuz #1 i suck at streaming and mapping those
2017-01-02 04:18 Antares-: #2 im barely awake
2017-01-02 04:18 Weriko: o
2017-01-02 04:18 Antares-: last stream op
2017-01-02 04:18 Antares-: af
2017-01-02 04:18 Antares-: thanks im fly
2017-01-02 04:18 Weriko: yep
2017-01-02 04:18 Antares-: ACTION fly
2017-01-02 04:19 Weriko: owaw
Silver Eyes
75 posts
Joined August 2016
Silver Eyes
why in graveyard? keep going plz
Weriko
182 posts
Joined December 2015
Topic Starter
Weriko

Silver Eyes wrote:

why in graveyard? keep going plz
5monthafteranswer:

no xd
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