Surono wrote:

youre good mapping at metal genre song, nice nice~

oh yes, just keep mapping if timing is not correctly if u feel. cuz the problem just metronome changes. not BPM or Offset !

General

Boo

JessiChan wrote:

Hihi M4M request ._.)/

General

º First of all, I do not understand the title of the difficulty. Does it have something to do with the song? If not, please change it.xD Don't worry, I'll change it if this gets closer to ranked or if many people complain (I know it's supposed to be a taiko diff name)

º Put a background on the map, remember that it should be with the dimensions: 1366x768 Eh... I'll put one when I find one.

Boo

1. 00:07:272 (44) - Remove the finisher, not allowed in triplets. Or you can separate it by deleting this note: 00:07:154 (43) - actually it's allowed at the end of triplets if following these guidelines https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Taiko_Ranking_Criteria#Guidelines also it's 1/2 triplet, not 1/4. So I'll be keeping it.
2. 00:30:919 (160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192) - I do not quite understand what you did in this section. You could change it. I recommend that you put the speed of the audio in looooow and listen well what there is.changed it. thanks :3
3. 01:01:389 (387) - Same as I said at the beginning.keeping it.
4. 01:38:801 (615) - 01:40:683 (621) - 01:42:566 (627) - They could wear finisher. Sound better.thanks thanks, I liked it.
5. 02:46:094 (221,222) - ctrl + g here. Sound better.thanks for calling that, but I don't quite like kdd or dkk patterns so I removed the note here 02:46:153 - to follow the same pattern as before and after this part.
6. 03:06:329 (1) - Why a spin here? There is still sound left over, use creativity. okok. I actually hadn't mapped here for the sake of playability (I was mapping the guitar and 1/6 in 255bpm isn't fun). However, later I changed some parts and forgot this one :c
7. 03:23:329 (40,41,42,43,44) - This sounds weird, you could change it, maybe.`changed a bit. I was scared to put more stuff in this transition because it'd make this part hard.

Well, I think you should change this map a lot. It is difficult to distinguish what happens, you follow much what the guitar does and you forget the percussion you have in the background. Remember that this is taiko, to follow vowels is good from time to time, but the taiko is a percussion instrument, it is not okay to follow the whole vowel (in this case, the guitar) Of course, do not take this personal, it's just a tip for you to get better. Thus begins and of course, there are parts where it is well mapped. Good Luck!dwdw.I like how the map sounds by following the synth and in many parts the drums are just constant 1/4 dkdkdkdkdkdkd for 30 seconds. It'd just be hard/boring. c:

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Hello, M4M.

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Following keyboards is ok, but in my opinion you followed too much. Since this mod is Taiko, you can concentrate on the drums as well.e.e I'll give the same answer as on the mod above.

boo

00:07:625 (46,47) - This space is too much. May be you can add some notes which goes well with drums in 1/2. Or 1/4 too.okok. put it in similar parts too.
00:18:389 - Optional. The patterns look nice but there is a drum sound too so you can add a don here.Originally there was a note here and in many similar parts but I removed for the sake of playability. I'll be keeping it.
00:22:566 (128,129,130) - I don't recommend putting 1/3 notes unless it's in the song. And from i hear, there are no 1/3 sounds. So you need to change those to 1/4.tbh I can hear 1/3 here. Or something closer to 1/3 than to 1/4. I had already tested 1/4 here and it was off so unless someone else say sth about it I'll be keeping it.
00:24:213 - ~ 00:30:330 - Between these two sections, either use slider because of the sustained keyboard sound or fill with some notes which are following drums. The space is too much in my opinion.I like the way it sounds. Sorry, I'll be keeping it e.e
00:38:683 (224) - The keyboard sound is changing at this slider. May be removing it and as you did before, follow the keyboard to fill the gap.okok thanks.
00:40:683 (233,234,235,236,237) - Fill this section with 1/4 kats only because of the snare sounds.thanks thanks
00:44:918 (259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275) - At this section, the drum sounds are getting lower and lower. So i recommend make 00:44:918 (259,260) - this two and 00:45:389 (265) - this one to kat.yaya thanks.
00:48:683 - The drum is getting harder compared to the previous part. You can make 3-plet or 5-plet patterns.done done.
00:51:507 (325,326,327,328,329,330,331,332,333,334,335,336,337) - Considering drum sounds, they are 1/4, not 1/3.once again I can hear 1/3 here. Also it's nice to play this
00:53:977 (341) - kat because of the snare.yy
00:55:741 - May be it's on purpose but the preview point isn't snapped.I put it 1/8 earlier
00:56:918 (365,366) - ctrl + g.Mm I'll keep it because I don't want it to be different to the same part earlier at the beginning but thanks c:
01:01:742 (389,390) - Mentioned it earlier at 00:07:625.
01:11:977 (445,446) - The keyboard sounds are the same so 01:12:094 (446) - you should change it to k. If you agree, you need to change the previous one - it's in the beginning i suppose - to keep consistency.true true, but I don't like the way 4 single kats, one after another, sounds. so... sorry e.e
01:16:683 (471,472,473) - Mentioned in earlier at 00:22:566.
01:26:330 (499,500,501,502,503,504,505,506,507,508) - Maybe spicing up this pattern with kats will sound better because the red sounds are conflicted with the snare sounds in drums.ok. this originally had kats in it but I was concerned with the difficulty here. I'll add it again and see how it goes (thanks thanks o/)
01:29:741 (538) - From here to 01:35:153 (584) - here you need to add some 1/4 notes. Following the keyboard is ok, but the drum is strong at this section.
You can combine both of them.yep. added notes.
01:35:271 (585,586,587,588,589,590,591,592,593,594,595,596,597) - Mentioned in earlier at 00:22:566.also can hear 1/3.
01:46:272 (650) - Move this to 01:46:153 - here and 01:46:212 (649) - change this to a don to follow the keyboard.actually this part is 1/3 just like the patterns before it but since it has strong drums I put it in the 1/4 snap to cover it.
01:47:272 (1) - This spinner feels wrong here. It should start 01:47:506 - here and before that you need to fill the gap between the time i said I placed the spinner here because there are 1/6 sounds in it and it'd be hell to play in 255bpm and 01:46:566 (653) - this with 1/3 notes because of the keyboard sounds.? it already has 1/3
01:47:977 (1,2,3,4,5) - k kkk k.didn't like it, sorry e.e
02:07:092 - add d.fair enough.
02:40:330 (181,182,183) - kkk.mm okay.
02:46:388 - 02:46:506 - these two places, add k.02:46:506 - added here
02:48:976 - add k.I added a don because I don't like the dkk pattern (and made changes to similar parts)
02:49:036 (242) - d.won't change to keep the consistency with the pattern
03:23:152 (39,40,41,42,43,44) - The keyboard sounds are faster than the others yet, you mapped with more space. Try to adding some notes.added some notes. also concerned about the difficulty here.
03:26:564 (66) - k.ya.
03:33:682 - add k.okok.
03:37:094 (149) - This note is supposed to be in 1/3, not 1/4.fixed it and the previous note

Ok since you followed the keyboard mostly, i'll give the advices by looking the keyboards only.

03:46:682 (219) - d.thanks, I liked it c:
04:37:856 (582,583,584) - Mentioned in earlier.still can hear 1/3
05:27:619 - You can add a note here since there is a keyboard sound.donedone.

Hope this helps~ it did. a lot c:

[R] wrote:

yo

[boo]
insert BG picture here orz
00:05:389 (34,35) - delete to make sound not weird (ex 00:06:448 - ) nah, I like how it is right now
00:08:448 - change kat, high pitch here yep, did on similar parts
01:02:565 - change kat ^
01:53:154 (45,46,47) - how about making kkd kkd this part ? That's not bad but I prefer how it is right now. It gives emphasis on the synth
02:59:271 - put note here instead, there has no unique sound done done c:
03:47:858 - change kat ? this part 03:46:093 - | 03:47:034 - have start with kats I placed the kats on the white lines, where there is more high pitch etc.
03:48:682 (235,236) - can invert this thanks, didn't like that many kdkdkdk... on this part
04:19:150 - add note ? Nah, I'm keeping it. It's the same as the part at the beginning
04:19:503 - change don to emphasize 04:19:738 - ^ and also I didn't like how ddd or kkk sounds in this part
04:35:267 - | 04:36:679 - can add note to give a variety betwen previous repetetion (ex 00:10:095 - ) That's what I don't want to do, sorry xD
04:46:561 - | 04:47:973 - same ^ ^

well maybe just that from me
good luck c:

1. Seems like the instrument sound on 00:03:036 (23) - is pretty strong , I think you can you k to emphasis this section. If you applied, you can add d on 00:03:389 -
2. 00:57:153 (376) - ^
3. 04:18:325 (483) - ^
4. 00:42:095 - ~ 00:44:918 - Due to taiko is drum relate game, focus too much the element which is not drum/beat relate may cause lacks of structure of map,I suggest you trying to focus more drum/beat like you did on 00:30:330 - ~00:34:565 -
5. 01:47:271 (1) - you can continue add notes instead of just spinner.the drum and instrument didn't stop or on long tone.
6. 01:52:212 - ~01:54:094 - ^
7. 02:13:388 - ~02:17:622 - ^
8. 03:06:329 - ~03:09:270 - ^(this one doesn't match the sounds perfectly
9. 03:38:917 - ~04:01:856 - ^
10. 05:27:737 - ~05:32:090 - ^
11. 02:29:624 - ~02:40:918 - this part could use slower sv and speed up gradually to connect 02:40:918 -
12. 03:18:800 - ~03:24:447 - ^
13. the instrument's long tone starts on 03:04:800 - ,you may move the slider start on 03:04:800 -
14. 03:29:741 - ^
15. 03:15:623 (1) - in my opinion, you can follow drum by notes instead of spinner.

qoot8123 wrote:

Hi, here comes my m4m mod

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1. Seems like the instrument sound on 00:03:036 (23) - is pretty strong , I think you can you k to emphasis this section. If you applied, you can add d on 00:03:389 - thanks thanks, did the same for the 2 below
2. 00:57:153 (376) - ^
3. 04:18:325 (483) - ^
4. 00:42:095 - ~ 00:44:918 - Due to taiko is drum relate game, focus too much the element which is not drum/beat relate may cause lacks of structure of map,I suggest you trying to focus more drum/beat like you did on 00:30:330 - ~00:34:565 - okay, did some changes on the part before this one too.
5. 01:47:271 (1) - you can continue add notes instead of just spinner.the drum and instrument didn't stop or on long tone. :c alright, I'll cover the 1/6 with something
6. 01:52:212 - ~01:54:094 - ^ I actually didn't put any spinner here, but I placed some notes to fill the blanks
7. 02:13:388 - ~02:17:622 - ^ ^
8. 03:06:329 - ~03:09:270 - ^(this one doesn't match the sounds perfectly I know, originally I mapped the guitar here but people didn't like so I'm trying to adapt it now. Made some changes.
9. 03:38:917 - ~04:01:856 - ^ Alright, changed some parts
10. 05:27:737 - ~05:32:090 - ^ also changed some parts
11. 02:29:624 - ~02:40:918 - this part could use slower sv and speed up gradually to connect 02:40:918 - eh, I did it but I don't know if it's correct
12. 03:18:800 - ~03:24:447 - ^ ^
13. the instrument's long tone starts on 03:04:800 - ,you may move the slider start on 03:04:800 - ye
14. 03:29:741 - ^ yeye
15. 03:15:623 (1) - in my opinion, you can follow drum by notes instead of spinner. Mm, I'll consider that if more people comment this.

In overall, you are good at following the instrument's sounds ,but you sometimes ignore the drum/beat which is very important element in taiko map. I recommend you focus more drum/beat relate thing in order not to make the structure too insubstantial. :c
Anyway, Good Luck for your map c:

Nofool wrote:

dang sorry for being so late

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*- 00:22:566 (132,133,134) – are you sure this is 1/3? I mean I sounds somewhere between 1/3 and ¼ but I would rather use ddd ¼ or d d 1/2 instead tbh I think 1/3 fits more in the music but I changed to 1/4 ddd so it plays better. Also changed similar parts, thanks.

*- 00:24:448 – to - 00:25:036 – you could probably add 6 k notes in ½ there to like, accompany the sound from the previous K. - 00:25:389 – to - 00:25:977 – same with 6 d, etc (those are supported by the song itself) ok, added.

^ those 2 suggestions are to be considered on other similar parts

*- 00:32:095 (176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184) – id make this a stream, dddkddkkddk, that’s a non-stop ¼ in the song there this and other parts used to follow the nonstop 1/4, however I changed it to triples following another mod saying it was hard and would help playability. I'll change this back, ya.

*- 00:37:036 (220,221) – would have more impact if you swaped color, to counter - 00:35:154 (206,207) - nice catch, I liked c:

*- 00:39:389 - / - 00:40:095 – those breaks are a bit awkward to me, the song is still kinda “crazy” like for the previous/upcoming structures Ok, I filled those blanks with some notes.

*- 01:42:212 (679,680) – swap colors to represent the different pitch here? anuibvmijobvmjoiet thanks for catching that, Idk how I missed it.

*- 01:52:094 – add d here or remove - 01:52:272 (39) - ? to make it look more consistent with - 01:48:213 (4,5,6,7) – done

*- 02:05:504 – d missing here? According to the other d around this one should be following te song too

*- 02:28:210 (85,86,87,88,89) – try kkkd dk for a better melody follow? Else kkkdddk if you really want to have both the melody/drums I changed to kkkdddk

*- 02:32:330 (120) – maybe this as k would be more natural to play since all other similar spots are k and next beat the first d of the d spam true, kat makes more sense here.

*- 03:00:094 – d, - 03:00:917 – k, - 03:02:093 – k? I think those flow better without ½ breaks, just like previous long structures indeed. changed it.

*- 03:07:917 -add d to follow the whole melody sound, remove - 03:08:094 (414) – and make 03:08:211 (415,416,417,418,419) – k k d d k d k ½? This to follow better the melody Mm ok.

*- 03:14:623 -/ - 03:14:623 – would add k and d at those spots respectively for the melody’s sake again since most of this part’s patterns are on it Uh... you placed the same time mark twice there. I changed the time you mentioned to kat and 03:14:976 - to don (I hope that's what you meant).

*- 03:47:505 (272) -/- 03:48:211 (277) – remove? Consistency with - 03:46:799 – Nice one, loved how it plays/sound now.

*- 03:53:974 – id add d there and remove - 03:54:562 (332) – (and possibly - 03:54:386 (330) – too) to make the thing look more like - 03:52:211 (310,311,312,313) – I added the d at 03:53:974 - , deleted 03:54:386 - and changed 03:54:444 - to don. 03:54:562 - Removing this note would make a weird gap between this part and the next one that I didn't like.

*- 03:59:856 (360,361,362,363,364,365,366) – try kkd kkdkkd dk instead of k d k k k k k? to follow the melody, seems better than the current result

*- 05:43:324 (139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152) – a bit awkward to play tbh, what about this :

my cursor is at - 05:43:619 -, I made the slider end ¼ later than you did, this result is just a bit natural to play and focus on the main beats of that weird melody I changed to what you said except for 05:43:502 - that I kept a k and I also kept a k here 05:43:384 -
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gl, thats some unusual map but the song itself makes it unusual lol asdasdafdf thanks, I'll need luck to get something out of this

-Valony- wrote:

Hi,

Here is my mod :

03:23:152 (39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53) - I find it very harsh to play, and for me, doesn't fit here, I would have remplaced it with a 1/6. I made some 1/4 patterns here instead of the doubles. Remapping it with 1/6 would be too tryhard tho.

04:10:915 (471) - and 04:11:974 (478) - and 05:14:090 (938) - for me, placing a finisher at the beginning / end of a mono color stream from the same color is highly unplayable, I would simply remove the finishers. I'll keep it. This part uses 1/2 snapping so it's not a "stream" and it ain't that hard to play at all. Also the finishers give emphasis on strong beats in the music.

05:29:855 (19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) - I realy don't like this patter, seems unnecessary hard and complicated. I would have done something like that : https://puu.sh/x9rGq/925a7494f5.jpg hat fit more the song and the ma in my opinion. I'll also keep it. Your suggestion wouldn't cover the drums beats at 05:29:972 - and 05:30:325 - .

except that, everything look nice to me. yay

Gl in ranking thanks :^)

• d=Don
  D=Big Don
  k=Katsu
  K=Big Katsu

1. Consider adding some tags.

1. 00:06:801 - i suggest changing this note d, as the pitch is lower and i can hear a drum there.
2. 00:18:213 (109,110,111) - are you sure about a kkd there? i think a ddd fits pretty well there.
3. 00:32:095 - change 00:32:095 - and 00:32:154 - to k? kkdkddkkddk could fit pretty well with the "bit instrumental"?
4. 01:00:918 - same here about changing to d if you accepted the suggestion of 00:06:801 - .
5. 01:12:330 - same suggestion as 00:18:213 (109,110,111) - if you accepted.
6. 01:26:094 - i suggest changing this to k, so it fits better with the instrumental.
7. 01:43:741 - change to k for a bit of consistency like in 01:38:094 - ? d d k, also, it fits good.
8. 01:45:153 - change this note to k? for some reason it flows better starting this 1/3 with kkkd.
9. 01:47:035 - at least for me, this dkddkdkdk it feels a bit weird to play, you could try ddkdkkddk, it fits pretty good imo.
10. 02:08:857 - add a k? there is a sound there where a kkd could fit good.
11. 02:31:976 - a personal suggestion, in all the kdk of this section i think it fits better and flows better with kkd.
12. 02:52:153 - as is the only 1/4 pattern with a finisher at the end i suggest deleting this note, as it looks weird imo.
13. 03:36:917 - the snap goes weird there, try ending the "1/3" stream at 03:37:623 - .
14. 04:22:091 - same as suggested in 00:06:801 -.
15. 04:33:503 - same as suggested in 00:18:213 (109,110,111) - .
16. 04:58:561 - same as suggested in 01:26:094 - .
17. 05:21:149 - it feels weird doing d here but k in the other notes with the same sound, i suggest using k here as it fits better and looks more consistent.
18. 05:50:441 - i suggest changing this note to k for a similar reason to ^, as you are doing double clap in parts like 05:52:205 - but not here.
19. 06:14:440 - changing this ddk to kkd fits lot better with the instrumental.

Hanjamon wrote:

Hello Marm, here's my mod~

• d=Don
  D=Big Don
  k=Katsu
  K=Big Katsu

[General]

1. Consider adding some tags.

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1. 00:06:801 - i suggest changing this note d, as the pitch is lower and i can hear a drum there. done.
2. 00:18:213 (109,110,111) - are you sure about a kkd there? i think a ddd fits pretty well there. Mm, I added a note before this triple to connect with the previous 1/2 note and those three notes are now ddk. The beginning of the triple was low pitch indeed.
3. 00:32:095 - change 00:32:095 - and 00:32:154 - to k? kkdkddkkddk could fit pretty well with the "bit instrumental"? ooo I like it, thanks.
4. 01:00:918 - same here about changing to d if you accepted the suggestion of 00:06:801 - . yep.
5. 01:12:330 - same suggestion as 00:18:213 (109,110,111) - if you accepted. did the same as before.
6. 01:26:094 - i suggest changing this to k, so it fits better with the instrumental. nice catch.
7. 01:43:741 - change to k for a bit of consistency like in 01:38:094 - ? d d k, also, it fits good.I like it! Thanks for this one.
8. 01:45:153 - change this note to k? for some reason it flows better starting this 1/3 with kkkd. I'll deny this one. dkkd plays better imo and it's easier to follow the next dkkd 1/3
9. 01:47:035 - at least for me, this dkddkdkdk it feels a bit weird to play, you could try ddkdkkddk, it fits pretty good imo. Mm, I changed the pattern accordingly, this new one plays well.
10. 02:08:857 - add a k? there is a sound there where a kkd could fit good. added
11. 02:31:976 - a personal suggestion, in all the kdk of this section i think it fits better and flows better with kkd. Mm, kkd plays a bit better but kdk sounds better imo. I'll keep it for now, might change if other people mention it.
12. 02:52:153 - as is the only 1/4 pattern with a finisher at the end i suggest deleting this note, as it looks weird imo. Deleted, doesn't look that weird but it doesn't play well with that finisher indeed.
13. 03:36:917 - the snap goes weird there, try ending the "1/3" stream at 03:37:623 - .The synth I'm following on this part is in 1/2 snapping where you mentioned.
14. 04:22:091 - same as suggested in 00:06:801 -. mhm.
15. 04:33:503 - same as suggested in 00:18:213 (109,110,111) - . the same as before.
16. 04:58:561 - same as suggested in 01:26:094 - . yep.
17. 05:21:149 - it feels weird doing d here but k in the other notes with the same sound, i suggest using k here as it fits better and looks more consistent. asddsfgasdfsaf thanks for catching that.
18. 05:50:441 - i suggest changing this note to k for a similar reason to ^, as you are doing double clap in parts like 05:52:205 - but not here. again thanks for catching that c: .
19. 06:14:440 - changing this ddk to kkd fits lot better with the instrumental. fits better and plays better, thanks for this one!

These kind of maps are uncommon xD good luck~ thanks thanks o/

IControl wrote:

Hey m4m

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00:01:860 (16,17,18) - swap sounds higher than lower ok ok, sounds right.
00:02:566 (20) - k this sounds like a higher pitch Mm, the kdk pattern would break the consistency of changing pattern colours every 1/2 in triples on this less dense part. kdk means k k on 1/2 and I didn't like this.
00:15:742 - add a note here. This part sounds more important compared to 00:14:330 - Mm, I'll keep it, the melody is the same and I prefer to keep the same pattern for the same melody here.
00:21:389 - ^ same as before.
00:33:742 - isn't this part kinda under mapped. Ik it might be hard to play but this is an hard song. you could do something like 00:33:918 - add d 00:34:389 - add d 00:34:683 - add k 00:35:036 - add d etc I did add some notes on this part. Followed some of the suggestions but I didn't like some others so didn't change everything.
00:35:507 - same suggestion here ^ samesame.
00:41:860 - you can make this a 5 note stream to follow the sfx and drums i would do dkkdd made ddkkd
00:42:801 - ^ Not here because it wouldn't give emphasis on the synth at 00:42:801 -
add a note here 00:48:624 - and here 00:48:742 - following the durm eh.. I see the reason for this but a 5 note stream here would play weird since the synth I'm mapping here is following 1/2 rhythm. The burst would seem strange.
00:48:977 - these are triples following the drum I would recommend slowing down the song and seeing where the drums land on the rest of this section cuz its kinda inaccurate kind of the same as before. Even if this is a drum part it wouldn't play so well... The triples I did fits and plays really well for that part. Hope you understand. I might change this later if it gets very requested.
01:28:625 (675) - shouldn't this be del to give the piano more emphasis and it matches your previous patterns at 01:28:094 - Aight, done it and also added a kat here 01:28:741 -
03:02:800 - why not 1/2 notes instead of slider. The guitar is really strong as it's the main sound here, so I thought I'd make something different to give emphasis for this specific sound. Also long dkdkdkdk, kdkdkdkd, ddkkddkk, kkddkkdd streams are really boring.
03:12:800 - this is under mapped. Should just be one long stream here till 03:15:623 - Indeed it is. It was undermapped for the sake of playability suggested by other mods before this one.
03:15:741 - start spinner here? Makes sense. Added a k where spinner previously started.
03:23:094 - add note here ok.
03:23:388 - ^ matches the song better asdfdafsfas Alright. Added it but I'm still scared that this part will be considered too hard.
03:30:652 (116) - move this note to here 03:30:682 - sounds more accurate Even if the drum is at 03:30:682 - the 3/8 synth/piano I'm following is at 03:30:652 - . The note at the drum sound would make this part horrible to play as it'd break the 3/8 rhythm.
03:36:211 - the 1/3s start here 03:36:564 - every thing before this should be 1/4 same as before, following the 3/8 synth/piano
03:42:799 - aren't there some 1/3s from here 03:42:799 - to here 03:43:152 - ok, did some changed to fit this part 03:45:623 -
04:45:150 - this part sounds kinda under mapped too follows the same melody as here 00:08:448 - so I did similar patterns.
05:35:855 - aren't these 1/3s again till here 05:37:502 - Eh... actually those are 3/8. Other modders suggested for this part to be undermapped when I thought it was 1/6 +1/4. Mapping this part as 3/8 doesn't seem so weird/hard to play so... dsafdsafd I changed it, hope BN accept it.
05:43:384 - should this part should just be a long 1/4 stream here I changed this part following Nofool suggestion for playability.

Overall this map is fun to play but its hard to tell you're mapping to the drums or the sfx keyboard at some points. Also I thought some parts were under mapped gl fasfdfsfad it's the map's fault :p

Nishizumi wrote:

hey, as you requested via pm

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02:09:896 - unused redline, delete. ok

02:29:624 - volume gap is too huge, and on the slow part is still loud. maybe increase to 80% for louder hitsound? Mhm, done it.

03:34:329 - neither metronome and volume, it doesn't change anything with redline at 03:24:447 - ok.
04:09:386 - ^ okok.

04:39:503 - forgot to add finish? Indeed, added.

05:55:087 - add a don here? there is kick sound sure, also added a kat here 05:55:087 - and changed previous note to k.

06:08:911 - this part sounds more energic than before, try making 1/2 pattern instead of only 1/1 like the slow part. kinda boring on here. Makes sende, made some 1/2 patterns.

06:16:322 - similar issue as 02:29:624 - , try 80% until 06:18:322 - and then 06:21:146 - try 90%, and 06:22:087 - goes back to 80% and no change until the song ends. ok ok, sounds better indeed.

in addition: give more slow sv on slow part then back to normal sv on normal part would be cool and more interesting to play in my opinion
great map. hope my mod helps you and hope this goes ranked faster adding some sv. I hope so too orz

pimpG wrote:

checked the metronome as requested
some small parts are too weird to measure but i think it's not a big deal. this composer is a bastard

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xfraczynho wrote:

Hi! Hope this can be helpful for you ~

General

1. Metadata suggestions: Add to tags: 'HertzDevil, Blueshift' according to HertzDevil - Blueshift Galaxy (original song name) (https://soundcloud.com/plrusek-chan/redshift-galaxy check this). Also you can add 'Metal' cause genre thanks, was thinking about tags.
2. Kiai times: I suggest you..: 00:55:740 - and every kind of this rhythm. Even it's not the hardest part in the map I think it's the more 'active' :p.
   01:27:741 - maybe this can be fine too! I made parts like 00:55:740 - as kiai (including 00:01:624 - ) 01:27:741 - I didn't because didn't sound too "active" and it's too close to the previous kiai.

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1. 00:05:035 - I suggest you to add don here; it feels so empty and makes good pattern with two doubles yes yes, the kd dk is really nice!
2. 00:06:447 - for example I think this break is better than the first one; long electronic sound is mappable Indeed.
3. Well it repeats through the section, helps at focusing on drum more than the electronic sound :') Yep, I'll repeat the previous suggestions in this section.
4. 00:24:447 - tbh from here I dont like so much these Finisher SV change. I think it can be faster or if you're not that lazy make it ascendant SV idk. I suggest you making 1.1 finisher and 1x rest of song (it's readable dw xD) did ascendant sv.
5. Also about this section I think you could make some little variations instead ddddddK kkkkkkkD considering all of the melodies are not the same Mm, I did some variation on the notes before the finishers, however I kept the D K D K D finisher pattern because it's more intuitive.
6. 00:32:271 (218,219) - what about using ctrl+g on these? I think it's more accurate at drum follow (you can notice it at 25% pr) done.
7. 00:32:682 - 00:35:270 - I feel this section a little random a little overmapped. Maybe distributing triples / quintuples can help idk I did some changes with the patterns here, it follows the melody better now.
8. 00:38:800 - add some note here, feels so empty and break is strange here you can finish with quintuple same as 00:36:917 - (it felt nice) Added some notes here (not the same way as 00:36:917 - though.
9. 00:45:388 - I think this drum feels same as 00:31:976 - but a little shorter asdfsdfsad I'll keep this one, imo it would be too hard to play. Also the way it is now plays well with the melody.
10. 00:51:820 (425,426,427) - make them ddk instead kkd. Feels really nice at playing / follows great drum ooo thanks.
11. 00:55:740 - same comments about breaks / adding note Mhm, did the same.
12. Well some comments repeat on this section xD
13. 01:28:389 (671,672) - I think ctrl+g here could work cause I feel like melody is ascendant on this section so finishing patterns like this as kat feels good :') I did ddk instead of kdk (kdk is too hard orz)
14. 01:28:741 (675) - some more personal suggest: don maybe? feels better xD ok. Also changed note here 01:29:270 - to make it symmetric.
15. 01:29:506 (685,686,687) - ddk follows pitch better asfdsffdsasd thanks.
16. 01:33:152 - I don't get why from here you start using double ddk pattern; it feels good at focusing on speedup song you can enjoy this and make longer patterns using same base orz, didn't notice that. Made some longer patterns because of the speed up here.
17. 01:35:270 - I think this pattern doesn't follow anything D: It follows the synth in the song ;w;
18. 01:36:211 - same as 00:31:976 -Well, not actually the same since it's shorter. However I did change it to a longer stream that follows the melody and covers the drums.
19. 01:45:623 (804,805) - ctrl+g follow pitches better and makes variation from here :3 talked a bit in game and made some changes that enhances the melody between the 1/3 and also doesn't play bad
    This section feels good <3 This part of the song feels good <3
20. 01:59:859 (96) - kat cause same pitch as 01:59:741 (95) - aaa, I put a don here first to make this part better to play (next 3 notes are 1/3 kats and the previous note is kat too. A kat here would make k k (k k k). That followed by the ddd is really weird to play) and second to follow the melody.
21. 02:26:679 (78) - make this don so you make a difference from 02:25:268 (71) - (they haven't the same tone) I agree, changed.

Well as a general comment map is currently nice and fun so I think you should take a quick look about some patterns that doesn't follow really good ascendant / descendant rhythm and some sections that are a little undermapped/overmapped and I think it gets perfect :') thanks <3 fun and nice to play are my goals with this one!

Good luck! Thanks o/

pimpG wrote:

se estava insatisfeito com meu timing poderia ter me pedido pra fazer recheck ou poderia ter poupado meu tempo e pedido diretamente pra ele.

1. 04:11:266 - I strongly believe that the measure reset is on this. The drums and the next timing point supports that it's there.
2. 00:00:213 - This should be 6/4, no reason to put a 4/4 there. Hence, the next timing point is unneccessary.
3. 01:16:445 - This timing point is pointless too. The first one has the exact same rhythm and there is no timing point there. Also, the measure is ending perfectly. Plus, because of the 3ms offset change, 01:18:327 - you need an omitted timing point in order to omit one of the double barlines.
4. I don't understand why you put the slider tick rate to 3, when you have 03:02:798 (288) - this kind of slider. Please explain.
5. 03:52:210 - This timing point is needless as well, since the previous one is also 3/4.
6. 05:15:148 - Same as 04:11:266.

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Hello, M4M.

[Timing]

1. 04:11:266 - I strongly believe that the measure reset is on this. The drums and the next timing point supports that it's there.
2. 00:00:213 - This should be 6/4, no reason to put a 4/4 there. Hence, the next timing point is unneccessary.
3. 01:16:445 - This timing point is pointless too. The first one has the exact same rhythm and there is no timing point there. Also, the measure is ending perfectly. Plus, because of the 3ms offset change, 01:18:327 - you need an omitted timing point in order to omit one of the double barlines.
4. I don't understand why you put the slider tick rate to 3, when you have 03:02:798 (288) - this kind of slider. Please explain.
5. 03:52:210 - This timing point is needless as well, since the previous one is also 3/4.
6. 05:15:148 - Same as 04:11:266.

Those are the things that I've found with the timing. Call me back when you apply it. And, don't give kudos for this post, I'll mod it for the 2nd time.

Marm wrote:

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Hello, M4M.

[Timing]

1. 04:11:266 - I strongly believe that the measure reset is on this. The drums and the next timing point supports that it's there.
2. 00:00:213 - This should be 6/4, no reason to put a 4/4 there. Hence, the next timing point is unneccessary.
3. 01:16:445 - This timing point is pointless too. The first one has the exact same rhythm and there is no timing point there. Also, the measure is ending perfectly. Plus, because of the 3ms offset change, 01:18:327 - you need an omitted timing point in order to omit one of the double barlines.
4. I don't understand why you put the slider tick rate to 3, when you have 03:02:798 (288) - this kind of slider. Please explain.
5. 03:52:210 - This timing point is needless as well, since the previous one is also 3/4.
6. 05:15:148 - Same as 04:11:266.

Those are the things that I've found with the timing. Call me back when you apply it. And, don't give kudos for this post, I'll mod it for the 2nd time.

Applied everything, but aren't some of the "pointless" timing points to reset the rhythm on the Nightcore mod beats?

The timing from before was made by Raiden, maybe you should talk to him (or I myself can do that) because it's already the 4th timing reset on this map orz.

Also about the slider it's because the ticks were too slow imo and the tick rate at 3 played well in those guitar parts but I can change it back to 1 with no problem.

1. 02:05:386 - Put a timing point and omit the barline.
2. 02:11:737 - ^
3. 02:53:622 - ^
4. 03:18:798 - That part feels too off. Like, it's really weird. Following the keyboard is nice, but the notes are actually in 170 BPM 4/4, and snapping them like 255 BPM 1/6 feels wrong. They both fit rhythm-wise, but keyboard doesn't fit. Consider it changing to 170 BPM, and apply a splice timing on 03:26:717 - this part. I mean, put a 255 BPM for just that spot and revert it back to 170 BPM on 03:27:268 - this. After that spot, the keyboard is 170 BPM 1/4 at some spots, and adapting it to 255 BPM 1/3 is wrong because they're not the same. 255 BPM 1/3 is equal to 191,25 BPM, which feels pretty off. Additionally, if you want to make the measure lines appear in 255 BPM 1/3, go to the file and change the 3rd number to 2, which will make it 2/4. Here is an example for you:
   
   
   
   On those lines, look up the 2nd number. If they are positive, they're timing points, If they're not, they're inherited ones. Find your offset (which is 214327 right now) and change the 3rd number of it to 2.
5. 03:34:327 - Change this one to 170 BPM as well, to 4/4.
6. 04:12:677 - Put a timing point and omit it.
7. 04:16:443 - ^

frukoyurdakul wrote:

More timing stuff I've noticed in actual testplay:

1. 02:05:386 - Put a timing point and omit the barline.
2. 02:11:737 - ^
3. 02:53:622 - ^
4. 03:18:798 - That part feels too off. Like, it's really weird. Following the keyboard is nice, but the notes are actually in 170 BPM 4/4, and snapping them like 255 BPM 1/6 feels wrong. They both fit rhythm-wise, but keyboard doesn't fit. Consider it changing to 170 BPM, and apply a splice timing on 03:26:717 - this part. I mean, put a 255 BPM for just that spot and revert it back to 170 BPM on 03:27:268 - this. After that spot, the keyboard is 170 BPM 1/4 at some spots, and adapting it to 255 BPM 1/3 is wrong because they're not the same. 255 BPM 1/3 is equal to 191,25 BPM, which feels pretty off. Additionally, if you want to make the measure lines appear in 255 BPM 1/3, go to the file and change the 3rd number to 2, which will make it 2/4. Here is an example for you:
   
   
   
   On those lines, look up the 2nd number. If they are positive, they're timing points, If they're not, they're inherited ones. Find your offset (which is 214327 right now) and change the 3rd number of it to 2.
5. 03:34:327 - Change this one to 170 BPM as well, to 4/4.
6. 04:12:677 - Put a timing point and omit it.
7. 04:16:443 - ^

Call me back when you handle the unsnapped notes that will occur on the 170 BPM part, and the rest of it.

1. I recommend OD = 7 and HP = 4. Above 240 BPM OD=7 for this kind of dense map would be fine, and decimal HP values don't work properly on Taiko.
2. 00:23:977 (153,154) - Instead of k d, I recommend kkk due to the drums.
3. 01:18:327 - The kiai ends late, put a green point here and end it here.
4. 01:36:329 - Because of the drums, how about kkkdkkddkkddkddd here? It fits better than this I think.
5. 01:53:388 (107,108) - Reverse those? For keyboard pitch it might be good.
6. 02:17:916 - How about adding a don here and 02:18:092 (298,299) - making these two kats? Will support the drums better since the last two are on snare sounds.
7. 02:31:974 (21,22,23) - dkd fits better due to keyboard pitch. This applies on the rest of it, don't forget tho change them if you accept.
8. 02:38:681 (81,87) - Ctrl + g on those, they're not consistent. The first section you mapped 02:36:564 (62) - this as a kat where that note is don. Make them similiar because the pitches are way prominent to put a variation there.
9. 02:46:386 - Add a kat maybe? Snares are very loud there. Change the similiar parts as well if you accept.
10. 02:53:975 (198,199,200) - Kats? To emphasize the higher keyboard sounds.
11. 03:18:798 - Make this timing point's measure 2/4 so it'll fit to 255 bpm 3/4 on 02:29:622 - this spot. Change it from the file since you can't do in editor.
12. 03:23:209 - I think you can make this a whole stream, since it contains a fast keyboard.
13. 03:30:209 - Add a note to provide a better readability with the suggestion below.
14. 03:30:532 - 03:31:591 - From here to here, snap the notes to 1/4 like this (point is on 03:30:797):
    
15. 03:46:797 - Fill this gap a little bit. The change of density on the notes are weird, and it breaks the structure you follow. Add some notes with at least one 1/4 triplet for every 2-stanza.
16. 03:53:385 - The drums are 1/4, no reason to map it as 1/3.
17. 05:22:559 (502) - Don here? If you change it the snare sound on 05:22:676 (503) - this will be emphasized more.
18. 05:35:853 - Make this pattern more readable, Either use 1/3 or 1/4 but this kind of stream is unreadable, if you count 05:36:676 - this bar line here. It may not follow the actual sounds, but that's not a problem there because this composer is nuts. Map's structure is more important.
19. 06:12:908 - The drums are better for a 1/4 pattern, even though they're unsnapped. Also, if you change it to flat 1/4, it'll be more readable.
20. 06:31:142 - I think you can add some triplets starting from here, the drums are hard enough to do so.

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Hello again.

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1. I recommend OD = 7 and HP = 4. Above 240 BPM OD=7 for this kind of dense map would be fine, and decimal HP values don't work properly on Taiko. ok, changed.
2. 00:23:977 (153,154) - Instead of k d, I recommend kkk due to the drums. ok made it kkk.
3. 01:18:327 - The kiai ends late, put a green point here and end it here. done.
4. 01:36:329 - Because of the drums, how about kkkdkkddkkddkddd here? It fits better than this I think. Changed to kkkdkdddkkddkdddk instead.
5. 01:53:388 (107,108) - Reverse those? For keyboard pitch it might be good. aaa I like how kd plays better :c
6. 02:17:916 - How about adding a don here and 02:18:092 (298,299) - making these two kats? Will support the drums better since the last two are on snare sounds. added a kat instead and made the kkk.
7. 02:31:974 (21,22,23) - dkd fits better due to keyboard pitch. This applies on the rest of it, don't forget tho change them if you accept. ok, also changed the second of the 3 kats before those parts since it fits the melody and is better to play with dkd (02:31:739 - for example)
8. 02:38:681 (81,87) - Ctrl + g on those, they're not consistent. The first section you mapped 02:36:564 (62) - this as a kat where that note is don. Make them similiar because the pitches are way prominent to put a variation there. ok, done.
9. 02:46:386 - Add a kat maybe? Snares are very loud there. Change the similiar parts as well if you accept. okay added. but I didn't find any other similar part with strong snares like this. Idk if I missed any.
10. 02:53:975 (198,199,200) - Kats? To emphasize the higher keyboard sounds. changed only the note at the end of the triplet as it's a pitch change. I wanted to keep the others as don to give emphasis on the drums that begin at 02:54:328 - . I also changed 02:55:386 (214) - to kat for consistency with that change.
11. 03:18:798 - Make this timing point's measure 2/4 so it'll fit to 255 bpm 3/4 on 02:29:622 - this spot. Change it from the file since you can't do in editor. Changed it for the whole 170bpm part. (Had to omit first bar line at 03:26:717 - because of that.
12. 03:23:209 - I think you can make this a whole stream, since it contains a fast keyboard. okay, hope it isn't too hard :p.
13. 03:30:209 - Add a note to provide a better readability with the suggestion below.
14. 03:30:532 - 03:31:591 - From here to here, snap the notes to 1/4 like this (point is on 03:30:797): ok, it isn't as bad as I thought it'd be :v.
    
15. 03:46:797 - Fill this gap a little bit. The change of density on the notes are weird, and it breaks the structure you follow. Add some notes with at least one 1/4 triplet for every 2-stanza. Alright, I did it (I think?)
16. 03:53:385 - The drums are 1/4, no reason to map it as 1/3. tbh I hear the drums as 1/3 here (at least at 25% playback rate they are closer to the purple lines than the red/blue lines). Also added a note at 03:53:209 - as the song supports and plays better with the 1/3 later, might change if it's really 1/4.
17. 05:22:559 (502) - Don here? If you change it the snare sound on 05:22:676 (503) - this will be emphasized more. sure, done.
18. 05:35:853 - Make this pattern more readable, Either use 1/3 or 1/4 but this kind of stream is unreadable, if you count 05:36:676 - this bar line here. It may not follow the actual sounds, but that's not a problem there because this composer is nuts. Map's structure is more important. Remade it with 1/4 and 2 sections using some easily readable 1/3 before everything goes nuts as it fits the song (and I love 1/4+1/3 mixes pls don't destroy this :C)
19. 06:12:908 - The drums are better for a 1/4 pattern, even though they're unsnapped. Also, if you change it to flat 1/4, it'll be more readable. ok, changed to 1/4 and the second note of the triplet to k because the repeating pattern here is meh.
20. 06:31:142 - I think you can add some triplets starting from here, the drums are hard enough to do so. ok, added some triplets and mini streams as this section progressed since the intensity also increased with it.

This song is haaard. I hope you won't choose something like that in the future but this is interesting, isn't it? :^)

1. 01:18:271 - It seems that kiai flashes one more time, so add a green point here and end the kiai on snapped, also cancel the kiai on 01:18:298 - this red point in order to keep the kiai flashes one more time.
2. 02:11:855 (1048) - Shift this note to 1/2 right, to the white tick. It feels empty there. (02:11:973 - This spot I mean.)
3. 03:26:717 - Make this timing point 3/4 in order to provide a better NC rhythm.
4. 03:51:504 - 04:09:853 - Make two parts similiar. The second part contains some finishers that the first part doesn't have. My suggestion will be removing the finishers on the 2nd part. You know what, 05:13:736 - finishers suit there. Make the first part with finishers as well in order to keep them consistent.
5. 05:37:441 (103) - Even though I'm still not convinced with this 1/3 1/4 stream, delete that note to leave a space between the slider and 05:37:382 (102) - this note. For playability, there should be at least 1/2 gap between them.
6. 05:43:382 - A stream here due to the keyboard? Would feel better.
7. 06:33:377 (157,158) - 06:34:789 (169,170) - 06:36:201 (181,182) - 06:37:613 (194,195) - 06:40:436 (219,220) - I strongly recommend DONS here. It will fit way better with the low-pitched keyboard and the drums.

frukoyurdakul wrote:

I believe this will be my hardest work...

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1. 01:18:271 - It seems that kiai flashes one more time, so add a green point here and end the kiai on snapped, also cancel the kiai on 01:18:298 - this red point in order to keep the kiai flashes one more time.done I guess.
2. 02:11:855 (1048) - Shift this note to 1/2 right, to the white tick. It feels empty there. (02:11:973 - This spot I mean.) alright, the sv change is more readable now too.
3. 03:26:717 - Make this timing point 3/4 in order to provide a better NC rhythm. ok.
4. 03:51:504 - 04:09:853 - Make two parts similiar. The second part contains some finishers that the first part doesn't have. My suggestion will be removing the finishers on the 2nd part. You know what, 05:13:736 - finishers suit there. Make the first part with finishers as well in order to keep them consistent. alright, added the finishers on the first part.
5. 05:37:441 (103) - Even though I'm still not convinced with this 1/3 1/4 stream, delete that note to leave a space between the slider and 05:37:382 (102) - this note. For playability, there should be at least 1/2 gap between them. Mhm, deleted.
6. 05:43:382 - A stream here due to the keyboard? Would feel better. sure, made a stream that still plays well with the following 3/2 guitar sounds.
7. 06:33:377 (157,158) - 06:34:789 (169,170) - 06:36:201 (181,182) - 06:37:613 (194,195) - 06:40:436 (219,220) - I strongly recommend DONS here. It will fit way better with the low-pitched keyboard and the drums. ok, also changed all the other 2finisher parts to don + the similar part before it that has no finishers for consistency.

Call me back when you are done... (i guess)

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Turns out I've missed something...

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01:18:298 - Move this timing to 01:18:328 - here, to prevent the double line. The note seems unsnapped for some reason. And, snap that note to 2nd timing point, 01:18:330 (601) - here. It is now on 01:18:328 (601) - this. done.

02:25:268 (1127) - On every emphasize, you used d d K, so you should use d d K here too. Mm, the d k K was because of the melody that's different from the following d d K but sure, d d K is easier to play.

03:21:150 (21,23) - Make the pattern dkd, since the other part has only dkd pattern on this bass emphasize. ok.

05:35:853 - I'm sorry but I have to put that you need to change it to 1/3, from what I hear the keyboards are only 1/3. done

06:27:612 (95) - 06:29:024 (109) - 06:30:436 (123) - 06:31:848 (139) - 06:38:907 (206) - 06:41:672 (232,233) - (swap) Change all of them to kats, to keep it consistent with the existing keyboard sound which you represented with kat at the previous section. ok.

I think that's all. hopefuly

frukoyurdakul wrote:

I believe this will be my hardest work...