Satoshi with Pikachu (CV:Matsumoto Rica/Otani Ikue) - Alola!

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Xinely
ok rebub
Sotarks
alola
ezek
*cough cough*
Plaudible
*hem hem*
Pentori
cleaning up bubbles
[ezek's Easy]
00:40:511 (5) - think you should do something different here rhythm/placement wise, since this is quite different from the repeating vocals 00:38:158 (1,2,3,4) - yet is mapped in the same pattern
01:06:393 (1) - intensities between 01:06:785 - and 01:07:177 - are completely different so you could probably break this up into slider + circle instead of having the single slider
01:07:569 (3) - doesn't reverse on anything significant, the emphasised offbeat is actually on 01:07:765 - similar to stuff like 01:00:903 (2) - 01:04:040 (2)
01:16:001 (3) - should try avoid the usage of 1/2 sliders where possible in easy. the red tick isn't very dominant here so a rhythm that works off the white ticks could work better https://puu.sh/vIbOS/4536442d8b.jpg
01:19:726 - is this supposed to use the default clap? sounds out of place
01:20:118 (2,3) - same thing about the 1/2 sliders, this can be simplified to only highlight the strongest sounds http://puu.sh/vIc13/3adc721022.jpg

the last 1/2 slider is ok to end on i guess

[Plaudible's Normal]
00:09:334 (6,1,2) - i reckon u could revise this rhythm a bit, i think you're trying to follow too many sounds causing the density to spike up here. could try something like http://puu.sh/vIiEE/fbc8692ab1.jpg that follows the main drum line while giving some attention to the trumpet
00:19:922 (2) - 00:23:060 (2) - etc. these beats seem quite unnecessary imo. all other red ticks 00:20:314 - 00:20:707 - contain these vocals but arent mapped, so mapping it here 00:19:922 (2) - felt somewhat inconsistent. could probably just remove these and have your rhythms follow the 1/1 drums specifically
00:20:903 (5,6) - 00:24:040 (5,6) - consider ctrl g'ing these rhythms? the last vocal is accented on each of these 00:21:491 - 00:24:628 - so having a clickable object to represent that is nice
00:33:452 (4,5) - ^ etc.
00:58:550 (3,1,2) - the rhythms are quite complicated here, but i dont think following the vocals is really acceptable since they aren't really rhythmical. u might as well just end this with a circle on 00:58:550

[Polka's Hard]
00:09:530 (5,1) - doesn't make much sense to stack the downbeat, it just limits movement. could maybe stack these 00:09:138 (3,4) - instead?
00:10:511 (3) - not the best rhythm imo, since u passively map 00:10:707 - which has the kick + melody
00:20:118 (3,4) - pretty noticeable spacing change here. i assume you're trying to keep the same visual spacing, but the same can be done if u have the slider further down
00:43:648 (4) - dont think you need the repeats to extend to 00:43:942 - since this is only sounds like a triplet
00:56:197 (3) - could just be replaced with a 1/2 slider instead, so u can cover 00:56:393 - with an object and keep consistency with stuff like 00:53:060 (4,5)

[Hobbes2's Insane]
00:25:805 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - triplet usage seems a bit excessive here, on top of that the vocals shift here and are less 1/4ish. combos like 00:26:981 (1,2,3,4,5) - have no 1/4 at all
00:26:981 (1) - 00:28:158 - mapping the stressed offbeat vocals but then skipping the one at 00:27:765 - causes some confusion with the rhythm. instead i reckon u could try ctrl g'ing 00:27:569 (3,4) - or work with a rhythm that focuses on highlighting the downbeats, similar to 00:25:609 (1)
00:41:687 (2,3) - i dont think anything supports the blue ticks, and it doesn't really highlight anything either
00:42:667 (1,2,3,4,5) - could be nicer with emphasis. beats like 00:43:256 (4) - dont get much attention yet they're stressed in the music
00:45:609 (4,1,2) - quite a nasty flow break tbh, to switch from the circular movements of 00:44:432 (1,2,3,4) - to almost linear flow in the opposite direction 00:45:609 (4,1,2) - is really uncomfortable
00:49:726 (3,4,5) - stacks seem broken here
00:53:648 (1,3,5,7) - while this is a somewhat decent concept, its really inconsistent with how u mapped things previously since the music hasn't changed much at all. almost feels as if this was included for the sake of having the pattern, instead of contributing to rhythms
01:22:471 (2) - is the double finish intentional? i dont really hear anything worthy of a finish
01:22:667 (3,4) - seems nicer to emphasise the trumpet with the slider like u did at the beginning 00:07:373 (3)

[Kai's Insane]
00:05:903 - probably worth having a clap here instead, as this is the loudest of the drums
00:05:805 (1,2) - maybe space more? could very easily be deceived as 1/4 spacing
00:21:491 (3,4) - could use a 1/2 slider here and 2 circles for 00:22:079 (6) - since it seems most of ur rhythms were based off vocals

[Z-Insane]
00:06:066 (2) - wrongly snapped? should end on the red tick
00:10:707 (6,7,8) - could try mapping the 3/4 melodies on the blue ticks. the triplets kinda gloss over the music too much imo
00:11:883 (3) - almost feels undermapped, the music is basically mimicking 00:10:314 - here so i dont think the intensities should be so different from each other
00:20:903 (1,2,3) - 00:24:040 (1,2,3,4) - i think u should use consistent concepts with these since they're basically the same yet mapped differently
00:26:197 (3) - the switch to vocals felt a bit random, instead u could maybe ctrl g the rhythm at 00:25:412 (6,1) - so u can indicate that ur following vocals throughout the measure
00:49:726 (4,5,6) - 00:51:687 (5,6,7) - 00:52:863 (3,4,5) - 00:56:001 (3,4,5) - these triplets don't work that well imo, as they have the strong vocal on the red tick providing little emphasis, since triplets emphasise the note underneath. things like 00:47:765 (2,3,4) - 00:50:510 (8,9,1) - are ok as they're emphasising the beats on the white ticks 00:47:961 - 00:50:707 - where the vocals arent as strong on the red 00:47:765 - 00:50:511
01:06:001 (3,4) - consider making these different. 01:06:001 (3) - only carries one sound while 01:06:197 (4) - emphasises two

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CrystilonZ

Pentori wrote:

[Z-Insane]
00:06:066 (2) - wrongly snapped? should end on the red tick the snapping rn is based on xinely's mod i think. This is correct imo.
00:10:707 (6,7,8) - could try mapping the 3/4 melodies on the blue ticks. the triplets kinda gloss over the music too much imo that will stand out imo cuz there are no other 3/4 gap but made this part less dense
00:11:883 (3) - almost feels undermapped, the music is basically mimicking 00:10:314 - here so i dont think the intensities should be so different from each other made the other part less dense for consistency
00:20:903 (1,2,3) - 00:24:040 (1,2,3,4) - i think u should use consistent concepts with these since they're basically the same yet mapped differently done
00:26:197 (3) - the switch to vocals felt a bit random, instead u could maybe ctrl g the rhythm at 00:25:412 (6,1) - so u can indicate that ur following vocals throughout the measure that will make the jump there too large and stick out. I will try to come up with something xd
00:49:726 (4,5,6) - 00:51:687 (5,6,7) - 00:52:863 (3,4,5) - 00:56:001 (3,4,5) - these triplets don't work that well imo, as they have the strong vocal on the red tick providing little emphasis, since triplets emphasise the note underneath. things like 00:47:765 (2,3,4) - 00:50:510 (8,9,1) - are ok as they're emphasising the beats on the white ticks 00:47:961 - 00:50:707 - where the vocals arent as strong on the red 00:47:765 - 00:50:511 uhh i don't know much about the triplet emphasis thing xd I only use spacings to emphasize stuff. Anyway imo mapping this part all 1/2 feels very undermapped and mapping every 1/4 guitar thing sounds very excessive. I'm trying to find something in the middle in this part.
01:06:001 (3,4) - consider making these different. 01:06:001 (3) - only carries one sound while 01:06:197 (4) - emphasises two lol I did reply this to xinely too. The (4) is emphasized by the reverse flow thing. I also tried 2 circles and found that too cancerous

call me back!!
ezek

Pentori wrote:

cleaning up bubbles
[ezek's Easy]
00:40:511 (5) - think you should do something different here rhythm/placement wise, since this is quite different from the repeating vocals 00:38:158 (1,2,3,4) - yet is mapped in the same pattern okay
01:06:393 (1) - intensities between 01:06:785 - and 01:07:177 - are completely different so you could probably break this up into slider + circle instead of having the single slider okay
01:07:569 (3) - doesn't reverse on anything significant, the emphasised offbeat is actually on 01:07:765 - similar to stuff like 01:00:903 (2) - 01:04:040 (2) I'll keep my current rhythm. I like the way it sounds with the vocals~
01:16:001 (3) - should try avoid the usage of 1/2 sliders where possible in easy. the red tick isn't very dominant here so a rhythm that works off the white ticks could work better https://puu.sh/vIbOS/4536442d8b.jpg yee, I was thinking about that one being not strong enough so fixed
01:19:726 - is this supposed to use the default clap? sounds out of place eew true, removed clap
01:20:118 (2,3) - same thing about the 1/2 sliders, this can be simplified to only highlight the strongest sounds http://puu.sh/vIc13/3adc721022.jpg I prefer to have all the vocals there emphasized since they're pretty strong, especially because it says "Alola" which as you can see is the name of the song and it deserves such thing. Plus, I testplayed this diff with a beginner some months ago and this was no issue at all~ The pattern is intuitive due to the equal snapping~

the last 1/2 slider is ok to end on i guess
Thanks~

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Plaudible

Pentori wrote:

[Plaudible's Normal]
00:09:334 (6,1,2) - i reckon u could revise this rhythm a bit, i think you're trying to follow too many sounds causing the density to spike up here. could try something like http://puu.sh/vIiEE/fbc8692ab1.jpg that follows the main drum line while giving some attention to the trumpet i love this, done
00:19:922 (2) - 00:23:060 (2) - etc. these beats seem quite unnecessary imo. all other red ticks 00:20:314 - 00:20:707 - contain these vocals but arent mapped, so mapping it here 00:19:922 (2) - felt somewhat inconsistent. could probably just remove these and have your rhythms follow the 1/1 drums specifically removed both
00:20:903 (5,6) - 00:24:040 (5,6) - consider ctrl g'ing these rhythms? the last vocal is accented on each of these 00:21:491 - 00:24:628 - so having a clickable object to represent that is nice
00:33:452 (4,5) - ^ etc. iffy on this since i use it super consistently and implementing rhythm changes would be a bit painful, and ctrl+ging those rhythms doesnt work since they're both reverse sliders. if you'd like me to try for an alternative though i will
00:58:550 (3,1,2) - the rhythms are quite complicated here, but i dont think following the vocals is really acceptable since they aren't really rhythmical. u might as well just end this with a circle on 00:58:550 done
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thx pentori <3 <3
Kaitjuh

Pentori wrote:

cleaning up bubbles
[Kai's Insane]
00:05:903 - probably worth having a clap here instead, as this is the loudest of the drums applied
00:05:805 (1,2) - maybe space more? could very easily be deceived as 1/4 spacing applied
00:21:491 (3,4) - could use a 1/2 slider here and 2 circles for 00:22:079 (6) - since it seems most of ur rhythms were based off vocals tried applying it, had to move around the next part though

call me back!!
Thanks Pentori!

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00:25:805 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - triplet usage seems a bit excessive here, on top of that the vocals shift here and are less 1/4ish. combos like 00:26:981 (1,2,3,4,5) - have no 1/4 at all I made the second triplet a slider instead for vocals.
00:26:981 (1) - 00:28:158 - mapping the stressed offbeat vocals but then skipping the one at 00:27:765 - causes some confusion with the rhythm. instead i reckon u could try ctrl g'ing 00:27:569 (3,4) - or work with a rhythm that focuses on highlighting the downbeats, similar to 00:25:609 (1) Fix
00:41:687 (2,3) - i dont think anything supports the blue ticks, and it doesn't really highlight anything either Really? I hear a triplet in the trumpet melody
00:42:667 (1,2,3,4,5) - could be nicer with emphasis. beats like 00:43:256 (4) - dont get much attention yet they're stressed in the music Disagree tbh. All of the notes in the music here feel like similar intensity to me, so if i emphasize any particular note would make an adjacent note feel underwhelming. I think a jump pattern like this with similar spacing is better for the section as a whole.
00:45:609 (4,1,2) - quite a nasty flow break tbh, to switch from the circular movements of 00:44:432 (1,2,3,4) - to almost linear flow in the opposite direction 00:45:609 (4,1,2) - is really uncomfortable Fix
00:49:726 (3,4,5) - stacks seem broken here Fix
00:53:648 (1,3,5,7) - while this is a somewhat decent concept, its really inconsistent with how u mapped things previously since the music hasn't changed much at all. almost feels as if this was included for the sake of having the pattern, instead of contributing to rhythms Eh, I can change this if I must but i rather like it. It's a good representation of the trumpet buildup that's leading into the section 00:56:393 (1), and just mapping it like I would the other patterns is pretty lame.
01:22:471 (2) - is the double finish intentional? i dont really hear anything worthy of a finish Fixed
01:22:667 (3,4) - seems nicer to emphasise the trumpet with the slider like u did at the beginning 00:07:373 (3) Fix

Thanks Pentori!

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Cryst I think my hitsounds are good but make sure for me :d
polka

Pentori wrote:

[Polka's Hard]
00:09:530 (5,1) - doesn't make much sense to stack the downbeat, it just limits movement. could maybe stack these 00:09:138 (3,4) - instead? :arrow:I stacked because it matches the trumpet.
00:10:511 (3) - not the best rhythm imo, since u passively map 00:10:707 - which has the kick + melody :arrow:I was actually mapping pikachu here haha.
00:20:118 (3,4) - pretty noticeable spacing change here. i assume you're trying to keep the same visual spacing, but the same can be done if u have the slider further down :arrow:Wouldn't that make things worse?
00:43:648 (4) - dont think you need the repeats to extend to 00:43:942 - since this is only sounds like a triplet :arrow:ok
00:56:197 (3) - could just be replaced with a 1/2 slider instead, so u can cover 00:56:393 - with an object and keep consistency with stuff like 00:53:060 (4,5) :arrow:Sorry but I really like how it sounds and it matches with 00:52:079 (1) -
osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:アローラ!!
Artist:Satoshi with Pikachu (CV:Matsumoto Rica/Otani Ikue)
ArtistUnicode:サトシwithピカチュウ (CV:松本梨香/大谷育江)
Creator:CrystilonZ
Version:Polka's Hard
Source:ポケットモンスター サン&ムーン
Tags:Saku Pokemon Pokémon Pocket Monsters the series Sun and Moon opening 佐香 智久 Sako Tomohisa ezek Hobbes2 Plaudible Kaitjuh PolkaMocha Nintendo GAME FREAK
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Topic Starter
CrystilonZ
k all updated & checked hs in hobbes' diff

gonna poke pentori
Pentori
recheck
[ezek's Easy]

ezek wrote:

Pentori wrote:

01:07:569 (3) - doesn't reverse on anything significant, the emphasised offbeat is actually on 01:07:765 - similar to stuff like 01:00:903 (2) - 01:04:040 (2) I'll keep my current rhythm. I like the way it sounds with the vocals~
theres just no logic to this though, the emphasised offbeat is the red tick before the downbeat 01:07:765 - which you correctly mapped previously 01:04:628 - 01:01:491 . ctrl g'ing the rhythm at 01:07:177 (2,3) - would make more sense

[Plaudible's Normal]
00:58:550 (1) - should be hitsounded + doesn't need the nc. also i mentioned to remove these as well 00:59:334 (1,2) - as they don't really snap to anything specific, any reason for keeping those?
01:06:001 (1) - i get ur trying to add important to this slider with the nc, but its something that can just disrupt normal players. considering that other similar visual patterns dont have the nc 01:13:844 (4) - 01:21:687 (7) - u should probably remove it

[Polka's Hard]

PolkaMocha wrote:

Pentori wrote:

00:10:511 (3) - not the best rhythm imo, since u passively map 00:10:707 - which has the kick + melody :arrow:I was actually mapping pikachu here haha.
uhhh but the pikachu is on a completely different track, how are players supposed to know you've changed track for one pattern

00:20:118 (3,4) - https://puu.sh/w37tq/8351fb722b.jpg reduces the jump/prevents the movement from being really linear
00:43:648 (4) - this doesn't seem fixed

[Hobbes2's Insane]
00:27:961 (4,5) - stacking this is really awkward, as it takes all the emphasis off 00:28:158 (5) - while you were following the offbeat vocals
00:42:667 (1,2,3,4,5) - i don't think the intensities are similar at all, beats like 00:42:863 (2) - contain no vocal and are a weaker drum compared to 00:43:060 (3,4) . this pattern is just really bland imo as it represents different sounds in the same manner

[Z-Insane]
00:06:066 (2) - snapping is definitely wrong, snapping to the red tick is closer to the sound in the music

CrystilonZ wrote:

Pentori wrote:

00:10:707 (6,7,8) - could try mapping the 3/4 melodies on the blue ticks. the triplets kinda gloss over the music too much imo that will stand out imo cuz there are no other 3/4 gap but made this part less dense
i dont think i quite understand, whats wrong with making it stand out when its clearly supported by the music? other instances you could do this include 00:12:569 (5) . being the top diff you should be trying to follow what the music offers, not simplify it

00:20:903 (1,2,3) - 00:24:040 (1,2,3,4) - perhaps u misunderstood me for this part. i was implying to have wider more spaced jumps that stand out from 00:19:922 (3,4,5,6,7) - similar to how 00:24:040 (1,2,3) - does the same

CrystilonZ wrote:

Pentori wrote:

00:49:726 (4,5,6) - 00:51:687 (5,6,7) - 00:52:863 (3,4,5) - 00:56:001 (3,4,5) - these triplets don't work that well imo, as they have the strong vocal on the red tick providing little emphasis, since triplets emphasise the note underneath. things like 00:47:765 (2,3,4) - 00:50:510 (8,9,1) - are ok as they're emphasising the beats on the white ticks 00:47:961 - 00:50:707 - where the vocals arent as strong on the red 00:47:765 - 00:50:511 uhh i don't know much about the triplet emphasis thing xd I only use spacings to emphasize stuff. Anyway imo mapping this part all 1/2 feels very undermapped and mapping every 1/4 guitar thing sounds very excessive. I'm trying to find something in the middle in this part.
i'm not telling you to remove every triplet, just the ones where it breaks the emphasis. right now they seem to be placed really randomly with no relation to the music. also perhaps u could include some 1/4 at 00:44:432 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - to balance out densities, since that section is very 1/2 heavy

hmm
Topic Starter
CrystilonZ

Pentori wrote:

recheck

[Z-Insane]
00:06:066 (2) - snapping is definitely wrong, snapping to the red tick is closer to the sound in the music ok if you insist

i dont think i quite understand, whats wrong with making it stand out when its clearly supported by the music? other instances you could do this include 00:12:569 (5) . being the top diff you should be trying to follow what the music offers, not simplify it k gonna increase the complexity of this part to make it go well with that rhythm then

00:20:903 (1,2,3) - 00:24:040 (1,2,3,4) - perhaps u misunderstood me for this part. i was implying to have wider more spaced jumps that stand out from 00:19:922 (3,4,5,6,7) - similar to how 00:24:040 (1,2,3) - does the same kk

i'm not telling you to remove every triplet, just the ones where it breaks the emphasis. right now they seem to be placed really randomly with no relation to the music. also perhaps u could include some 1/4 at 00:44:432 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - to balance out densities, since that section is very 1/2 heavy the concept is kinda like emphasising the vocals where matsumoto sings and a mix between the vocal and instrument where the backup singers sing. gonna delete 00:51:687 (5,6,7) - then. Hopefully this is more clear now xd

hmm
Thanks for the recheck o/
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Nao Tomori
hi
thought i'd take another quick look at this before pentori qualified.

Top diff

00:58:648 (1,1) - this spinner recovery is still pretty annoying, and really confusing ince the spinner animation will cover up the approach circle of the note, effectively massively reducing the time you have to react to it. i suggest ending it at the red tick to avoid this issue.

01:05:805 (1,2,3) - the cursor movement (imo) going from 5>1 is slower than 1>2 so you need to do this weird speedup in the middle of the triple. if you see 01:02:079 (2,3,4,5) - the spacing into the triple is much higher, so it's very comfortable to play. over here, the spacing is pretty small by comparison. so it's kinda awkward.

01:09:726 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is massively out of place with the rest of the diff. you use almost exclusivley sharp angle jumps, so randomly sticking a fullscreen square is really out of place. i highly highly recommend changing this since it really doesn't fit at all with the rest of the map.
Hobbes2
fixed both, then

https://pastebin.com/raw/PHmKfYgx

edit - 00:46:197 (2,4) - cryst could you fix this stack lol
polka

Pentori wrote:

[Polka's Hard]
uhhh but the pikachu is on a completely different track, how are players supposed to know you've changed track for one pattern :arrow:I don't think they're gonna care haha. I really like this part.

00:20:118 (3,4) - https://puu.sh/w37tq/8351fb722b.jpg reduces the jump/prevents the movement from being really linear :arrow:I was aiming for linear flow here :o reduced the jump tho
00:43:648 (4) - this doesn't seem fixed :arrow:oops >_>
thx pentori!

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ezek
I suddenly stopped receiving notifications for this thread, someone should've poked me~

Pentori wrote:

recheck
[ezek's Easy]

Pentori wrote:

01:07:569 (3) - doesn't reverse on anything significant, the emphasised offbeat is actually on 01:07:765 - similar to stuff like 01:00:903 (2) - 01:04:040 (2) I'll keep my current rhythm. I like the way it sounds with the vocals~
theres just no logic to this though, the emphasised offbeat is the red tick before the downbeat 01:07:765 - which you correctly mapped previously 01:04:628 - 01:01:491 . ctrl g'ing the rhythm at 01:07:177 (2,3) - would make more sense
Okay, I've applied your suggestion~ I don't wanna be any trouble with the nomination process in this set.

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Topic Starter
CrystilonZ

Naotoshi wrote:

hi
thought i'd take another quick look at this before pentori qualified.

Top diff

00:58:648 (1,1) - this spinner recovery is still pretty annoying, and really confusing ince the spinner animation will cover up the approach circle of the note, effectively massively reducing the time you have to react to it. i suggest ending it at the red tick to avoid this issue. ya gonna stand my ground on this one xd. That's pretty much the point to end the spinner there tbh. Also it fits so why not

01:05:805 (1,2,3) - the cursor movement (imo) going from 5>1 is slower than 1>2 so you need to do this weird speedup in the middle of the triple. if you see 01:02:079 (2,3,4,5) - the spacing into the triple is much higher, so it's very comfortable to play. over here, the spacing is pretty small by comparison. so it's kinda awkward. idk if i understand this correctly but here's what i was trying to do: I was trying to accelerate the gameplay (aka cursor speed) in the way that it peaks at the "HAIII" there. Hopefully this is a good explanation lol.

01:09:726 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is massively out of place with the rest of the diff. you use almost exclusivley sharp angle jumps, so randomly sticking a fullscreen square is really out of place. i highly highly recommend changing this since it really doesn't fit at all with the rest of the map. I don't think it's out of place tbh lol. Well most of the patterns are triangles and the zig-zag things but there are stuff like 00:32:667 (3,6,1,2) - as well. lastly i don't think 90 degrees is that large xd.
Thanks for the suggestion nao. i hope my explanations satisfy you xd
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