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Team Grimoire - Grimoire of Darkness [OsuMania]

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EYA-
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 20 марта 2017 г. at 10:21:11

Artist: Team Grimoire
Title: Grimoire of Darkness
BPM: 185
Filesize: 9669kb
Play Time: 05:01
Difficulties Available:
  1. Danse ou Meurs - 4Key (4,97 stars, 3500 notes)
Download: Team Grimoire - Grimoire of Darkness
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Your last chance to prove yourself

Last edited by EYA- , edited 13 times in total.
Meiju
584 posts
Joined January 2015
Meiju
modsu
16:03 EYA-: габенмен
16:04 Mage: а?
16:04 EYA-: тестплей
16:04 EYA-: нужон
16:04 Mage: Давай
16:04 Mage: мапу
16:04 *EYA- is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1132098 Team Grimoire - Grimoire of Darkness]
16:11 Mage: Неплохо
16:11 Mage: Ща в редакторе гляну
16:12 EYA-: ну я заметил пару недочетов
16:12 EYA-: ща буду править
16:12 EYA-: пасиь
16:12 EYA-: б
16:12 Mage: 00:50:490 (50490|1,50490|3) -
16:13 EYA-: а понял
16:13 EYA-: раньше
16:13 Mage: 00:50:138 (50138|1,50138|3,50490|1,50490|3,50787|2,50787|0,51084|3,51084|1,51436|0,51436|2) - по моему это все 1/6
16:14 Mage: 00:51:355 (51355|1,51355|3) - а вот это странно
16:14 Mage: раньше ты этот звук не выделял
16:14 Mage: 00:59:949 - от сюда желательно менять паттерны
16:14 EYA-: выделяю дальше
16:14 Mage: ибо появляется новый звук а паттерны те же
16:15 EYA-: дык этого не было раньше
16:15 Mage: Нет, не выделяешь
16:15 Mage: 01:13:409 - зачем дабл
16:15 Mage: 01:14:706 - вот тут поятно, да
16:16 Mage: 01:17:301 - зачем трипл
16:16 EYA-: 01:13:246 (73246|3,73246|0,73409|1,73409|0) -
16:16 EYA-: оба одинаковые
16:16 EYA-: раз первый дабл
16:16 EYA-: пусть и второй будет
16:17 EYA-: триплет так как интенсивность нот растет
16:18 Mage: 01:37:571 - ну хз зачем тут бурст
16:18 Mage: не слышу звуков
16:18 EYA-: лн?
16:18 Mage: ага
16:19 Mage: 01:43:895 (103895|0,103895|3) - тут на 23 поставь
16:19 EYA-: не
16:19 Mage: ну да
16:19 EYA-: это будет хуево играть
16:19 Mage: 01:47:949 - этот бурст тож не идет
16:21 EYA-: ну ща попробу.
16:21 EYA-: похимичить
16:21 Mage: 01:32:706 - хех, по моему это единственный законный бурст в мапу
16:22 Mage: мапе*
16:22 EYA-: ((((
16:22 Mage: 02:25:084 - 1/8
16:22 EYA-: а барабанная дробь?
16:22 Mage: барабаны норм
16:22 EYA-: там 4 стука
16:22 EYA-: 1.6
16:22 EYA-: 1\6
16:23 Mage: Нет
16:23 Mage: 1/8
16:23 EYA-: пробовал на 1\8
16:23 EYA-: дичь
16:23 Mage: Да 1/8 это
16:23 Mage: (
16:23 Mage: 02:32:057 - а че не трипл
16:23 Mage: 02:33:314 - 
16:24 Mage: 02:35:949 - хех, а три ноты не жирно?)))
16:24 EYA-: нееее)
16:24 Mage: 02:36:436 - 02:37:409 - нот
16:24 Mage: 02:40:652 - 
16:25 EYA-: гуд айдиа
16:25 EYA-: дабл?
16:26 Mage: не
16:26 EYA-: будет джек, ну ок
16:26 Mage: сингл
16:26 EYA-: там и так сингл
16:26 EYA-: лол
16:26 Mage: 03:17:138 - тут можно и триплы
16:26 Mage: <_<
16:26 Mage: 03:18:355 - шо ты творишь
16:26 Mage: 03:18:273 - ?
16:26 Mage: 03:18:922 - 
16:27 Mage: 03:22:165 - 1/8
16:27 EYA-: це красиво
16:27 EYA-: хотел обыграть музыку
16:28 EYA-: тип плотный паттерн
16:28 EYA-: пауза
16:28 EYA-: плотный паттерн
16:28 EYA-: пауза
16:28 EYA-: 03:22:165 -
16:28 EYA-: ну нинад
16:28 Mage: 03:34:652 - ставь в этом парте джеки только на такие звуки
16:28 Mage: 03:35:949 - 
16:28 Mage: 03:39:841 - 
16:28 Mage: и тд
16:29 EYA-: кк
16:29 EYA-: сделал
16:29 Mage: 04:24:922 - вот с этого момента паттерны сложней сделай
16:30 Mage: 04:29:463 - где ноты D:
16:30 EYA-: ))))
16:30 EYA-: украли
16:30 EYA-: цыгане
16:30 Mage: 04:38:544 - дабл
16:31 Mage: 04:39:517 - 04:39:841 - даблы
16:31 EYA-: 04:29:463 -
16:31 EYA-: ну а че тут
16:31 Mage: 04:40:165 - ноту
16:31 EYA-: 1234 1234 1234?
16:31 Mage: 1/4
16:31 Mage: хз
16:31 Mage: 14 трилл можно
16:31 EYA-: 04:38:544 - фишка в том что пиано выделил синглами
16:32 Mage: я знаю
16:32 Mage: я просто слышу два звука
16:33 Mage: 04:41:787 - 04:42:436 - даблы
16:33 Mage: 04:42:598 - сингл
16:33 Mage: 04:43:733 - дабл
16:33 Mage: 04:44:138 - сингл
16:33 Mage: 04:44:706 - дабл
16:33 EYA-: не
16:33 EYA-: пиано парт
16:33 EYA-: не трогай
16:33 Mage: 04:46:328 - дабл
16:33 Mage: ФЫВЫВфбалфьа вл
16:33 Mage: фф 
16:33 Mage: а
16:34 Mage: Я СЛЫШУ ТАМ ДВА ЗВУКА ПИАНО
16:34 Mage: АЛЛЛООООООО
16:34 EYA-: ну плез
16:34 EYA-: ну лан(((
16:34 Mage: ты только основную пиано мелодию замапал
16:34 Mage: 04:46:652 - дабл
16:34 Mage: 04:46:976 - сингл
16:35 Mage: 04:47:301 - дабл
16:35 Mage: 04:47:625 - дабл
16:35 Mage: 04:48:273 - дабл
16:35 Mage: 04:48:922 - сингл
16:35 Mage: 04:49:571 - дабл
16:35 Mage: 04:50:219 - дабл
16:35 Mage: 04:50:544 - дабл
16:35 Mage: Все
16:35 Mage: =)
Wonki
930 posts
Joined February 2016
Wonki
helloo

  1. If this map going to rank, change ur mp3 file 320 to 192 :D


Danse or Die
00:49:571 - 3note to be nice expressing big sound

01:32:706 (92706|3,92746|2,92787|1,92828|0,92868|3,92909|2,92949|1,92990|0,93030|3,93071|2,93111|1,93152|0,93192|3,93233|2,93273|1,93314|0,93355|3,93395|2,93436|1,93476|0,93517|3,93557|2,93598|1,93638|0) - I recommend representing each melody differently http://puu.sh/sqBxP/38ed400463.jpg

01:35:544 (95544|0,95625|1,95706|0,95787|1,95868|0,95949|1,96030|0,96111|1,96192|0,96273|1) - this is so hard u must change http://puu.sh/sqBCC/d484b9f73a.jpg

01:37:246 (97246|2,97328|2) - This jack isn't really necessary to remove but it will be hard to play

01:38:706 - I'm not sure if this is intented but there is melody

01:40:814 (100814|0,100895|1,100976|0,101057|1,101138|0,101219|1,101301|0,101382|1,101463|0) - same as above you need to change

02:04:490 - ~02:04:814 - I do think that the piano melody should be added

03:21:598 (201598|1,201598|3,201598|0,201598|2,201679|3,201679|0) - i recommend 03:21:679 (201679|3) - move to 2 personal opinion


k done :D
EYA-
186 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
EYA-

Wonki wrote:

helloo

  1. If this map going to rank, change ur mp3 file 320 to 192 :D


Danse or Die
00:49:571 - 3note to be nice expressing big sound

01:32:706 (92706|3,92746|2,92787|1,92828|0,92868|3,92909|2,92949|1,92990|0,93030|3,93071|2,93111|1,93152|0,93192|3,93233|2,93273|1,93314|0,93355|3,93395|2,93436|1,93476|0,93517|3,93557|2,93598|1,93638|0) - I recommend representing each melody differently http://puu.sh/sqBxP/38ed400463.jpg fixed

01:35:544 (95544|0,95625|1,95706|0,95787|1,95868|0,95949|1,96030|0,96111|1,96192|0,96273|1) - this is so hard u must change http://puu.sh/sqBCC/d484b9f73a.jpg Ill think about it

01:37:246 (97246|2,97328|2) - This jack isn't really necessary to remove but it will be hard to play

01:38:706 - I'm not sure if this is intented but there is melody not understand

01:40:814 (100814|0,100895|1,100976|0,101057|1,101138|0,101219|1,101301|0,101382|1,101463|0) - same as above you need to change ^

02:04:490 - ~02:04:814 - I do think that the piano melody should be added done

03:21:598 (201598|1,201598|3,201598|0,201598|2,201679|3,201679|0) - i recommend 03:21:679 (201679|3) - move to 2 personal opinion


k done :D
Protastic101
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2016-11-27 02:23 EYA-: Hi protastic o/
2016-11-27 02:23 Protastic101: hey
2016-11-27 02:23 EYA-: Can i ask u about mod some stuff?
2016-11-27 02:24 Protastic101: Like asking for a mod or just questions in general?
2016-11-27 02:24 Protastic101: Cause I can answer short stuff, but I'm too lazy to actively check a map right now lol
2016-11-27 02:24 EYA-: asking for mod
2016-11-27 02:25 Protastic101: what map?
2016-11-27 02:25 EYA-: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1132098 Team Grimoire - Grimoire of Darkness [Danse ou Meurs]]
2016-11-27 02:26 Protastic101: oh dear
2016-11-27 02:26 EYA-: wa?
2016-11-27 02:28 Protastic101: Idk, some of the repeating jacks like 02:13:439 (133439|1,133520|1) - are pretty uncomfortable imo. Then the sounds like 02:19:520 (139520|3,139601|2,139682|1,139763|0,139763|3,139844|2,139925|1,140006|0) - where there's no 1/4 sound in the music, meaning those notes like 02:19:520 (139520|3,139682|1,139844|2,140006|0) - are ghosts
2016-11-27 02:29 Protastic101: 02:25:114 (145114|3,145114|2,145168|0,145168|1,145222|3,145222|2,145276|1,145276|0) - then this just seems a little overkill as a simple roll would be better because the minijumptrill is just excessive to use past 1/4 at this BPM in my opinion
2016-11-27 02:29 EYA-: oh
2016-11-27 02:29 Protastic101: 02:28:520 (148520|3,148520|1,148520|0,148520|2,148844|3,148844|2,148844|0,148844|1,149087|3,149087|2,149087|1,149087|0,149331|3,149331|0,149331|2,149331|1,149493|3,149493|1,149493|2,149493|0) - for these sounds, it'd be more appropriate to use triples because then you could vary the chord to represent pitch
2016-11-27 02:31 Protastic101: 02:38:249 (158249|0,158276|1,158303|3,158331|2,158358|0,158385|1,158412|3,158439|2,158466|0,158493|1,158520|3,158547|2) - this is definitely not 1/12 I'm sure
2016-11-27 02:32 EYA-: sure?
2016-11-27 02:32 EYA-: aaaa
2016-11-27 02:32 Protastic101: It's probably 1/6 or something, but either way, I'd simplify the snaps a little as using 1/12 seems like too much
2016-11-27 02:33 EYA-: can i use 1/8?
2016-11-27 02:33 Protastic101: I highly doubt it's 1/8
2016-11-27 02:33 EYA-: its probably impossible to understand true snap
2016-11-27 02:33 Protastic101: Yes, but 1/6 sounds closest I think
2016-11-27 02:34 Protastic101: 03:13:682 (193682|1,193763|0,193844|3,194006|0,194331|2) - also, notes like these are also ghosts and mapped to nothing
2016-11-27 02:35 Protastic101: 03:32:412 - I also feel that the jumptrill here is too long and that you should split it into two different chord types here like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6669350
2016-11-27 02:35 EYA-: not to break continuity of part i think
2016-11-27 02:36 Protastic101: The pitch of the synth or whatever changes there, so I think it's appropriate
2016-11-27 02:36 Protastic101: Anyways, just in general, a lot of this chart feels overchorded or has a lot of ghost notes
2016-11-27 02:37 Protastic101: 01:53:817 (113817|0,113844|1,113871|3,113898|2,113925|0,113952|1,113979|3,114006|2,114033|0,114060|1,114087|3,114114|2,114141|0,114168|1,114195|3,114222|2,114249|0,114276|1,114303|3,114331|2,114358|0,114385|1,114412|3,114439|2) - also, why
2016-11-27 02:37 EYA-: ok
2016-11-27 02:37 EYA-: thx
2016-11-27 02:37 Protastic101: Are you representing the long sound with short notes?
2016-11-27 02:37 EYA-: i dont know
2016-11-27 02:38 EYA-: \o/
2016-11-27 02:38 Protastic101: Cause while I think that's kind of ok for bass dubs or wubs, for a sound as smooth as this, a single LN is more fitting
2016-11-27 02:38 Protastic101: I mean, just removing that 1/12 burst brought the SR down from 5.14* to 4.98*
2016-11-27 02:39 EYA-: yep
2016-11-27 02:39 Protastic101: So I'm kind of getting this feeling that it's done just to inflate the SR to be a little higher than it should be
2016-11-27 02:40 Protastic101: 01:00:547 (60547|3,60547|1,60871|0,60871|3,60952|1,60952|2,61195|1,61195|2) - and etc. For piano sounds like this, I think using a single note if it's followed by a jump is fine too
2016-11-27 02:40 Protastic101: the kick should get the emphasis here, so they shouldn't be chorded the same I think
2016-11-27 02:41 Protastic101: Besides, you could make the snares like 01:04:520 (64520|1,64520|3) - triples this way, by using patterns like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6669375
2016-11-27 02:41 EYA-: like this?
2016-11-27 02:41 EYA-: https://puu.sh/svUQu/2560b78a81.jpg
2016-11-27 02:41 Protastic101: Yeah
2016-11-27 02:43 Protastic101: 01:08:087 (68087|2,68195|1,68303|2,68412|1,68520|2,68628|1,68736|2,68844|1,68952|2,69060|1,69168|2,69276|1,69385|2,69493|1,69601|2,69709|1,69817|2,69925|1,70033|2,70141|1,70249|2,70358|1) - I also think that you should vary this trill as it's repetitive to play for so long, and the pitch of the piano doesn't alternate consistently between only two notes
2016-11-27 02:45 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6669389 Here's an idea of what you could do instead
2016-11-27 02:46 EYA-: ~done
2016-11-27 02:47 EYA-: should i change pattern before this point
2016-11-27 02:47 EYA-: ?
2016-11-27 02:47 EYA-: 01:00:303 -
2016-11-27 02:47 EYA-: https://puu.sh/svV2r/423a0de603.jpg
2016-11-27 02:47 Protastic101: 01:30:790 (90790|3,90817|2,90844|1,90871|0,90898|3,90925|2,90952|1,90979|0,91006|3,91033|2,91060|1,91087|0) - also, again, feels pretty overkill for the sound it's supposed to represent
2016-11-27 02:47 EYA-: https://puu.sh/svV2R/64c6eb78c2.jpg
2016-11-27 02:47 Protastic101: Yeah, that's great
2016-11-27 02:52 Protastic101: 01:51:222 (111222|2,111385|2,111547|2,111709|2,111871|2,112033|2,112195|2,112358|2) - also, do take note of how long your note stacks get
2016-11-27 02:52 Protastic101: I'd say 4 notes long is the largest you should get to before varying the patterns to avoid ti
2016-11-27 02:52 Protastic101: it*
2016-11-27 02:54 Protastic101: So uhm, yeah
2016-11-27 02:54 Protastic101: To summarize:
2016-11-27 02:54 Protastic101: 1. If it's a smooth and long sound, just use a long note, don't use a 1/12 burst.
2016-11-27 02:55 Protastic101: 2. reduce some of the doubles in the beginning to single notes, in order to better accent the snares with triples and kicks with doubles
2016-11-27 02:55 EYA-: yes sir
2016-11-27 02:55 Protastic101: 3. Reduce some of the chord sizes, like those quads I mentioned earlier to triples, in order to better represent pitch
2016-11-27 02:56 Protastic101: 4. A lot of the 1/4 streams starting at 01:33:709 - are ghosts, (but not all, like 01:35:655 (95655|1,95736|0,95817|1,95898|0,95979|1) - )
2016-11-27 02:56 Protastic101: so remove the ghost notes
2016-11-27 02:57 Protastic101: 5. Jacks are stuff should be used carefully to avoid making uncomfortable patterns, and it's ok to break chord size consistency if you have to (like jump-single-hand is better in lieu of jump-jump-hand)
2016-11-27 02:58 Protastic101: Sorry, I can't mod in detail right now, but I'm about to go to bed lol
2016-11-27 02:58 EYA-: i have already done a lot
2016-11-27 02:58 EYA-: thx
2016-11-27 02:59 Protastic101: I'll try to take a closer look this weekend or something, or i might just ask my friend to look at it instead
2016-11-27 03:00 Protastic101: Do you want me to post log or nah?
2016-11-27 03:01 EYA-: as you wish
2016-11-27 03:01 EYA-: free kudos ha ha
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