• d=Don
  D=Big Don
  k=Katsu
  K=Big Katsu

1. 05:35:306 - this sv should be progressive as 05:35:391 - feels separated from the 1/4 pattern, i suggest adding these sv inherits for a better transition.
   
   
2. 05:35:306 - x1.09
3. 05:35:221 - x1.08
4. 05:35:137 - x1.07
5. 05:35:052 - x1.06
6. 05:33:865 - x1.03

1. 00:12:170 - here i suggest this, control+g in 00:12:170 (24,25) - , change 00:12:509 - to d and 00:12:679 - to K finisher, sounds better and makes 00:12:679 - consistent with 00:09:967 - .
2. 00:14:882 - same as ^ if you applied for consistency, control+g in 00:14:882 (42,43) - , change 00:15:221 - to d and 00:15:391 - to K finisher.
3. 00:20:391 - change this note to d and 00:20:560 - to k? i think ddkkd fits better here.
4. 02:03:103 - i think fits better moving this note to 02:02:933 - and changing to k and deleting 02:03:187 - as there isn't a strong beat in 02:03:187 - and follows better the melody.
5. 02:13:950 - if you applied ^, same here, move 02:13:950 - to 02:13:781 - and delete 02:14:035 - for consistency.
6. 03:08:781 - as i said in Guardistack's part, it feels weird starting the stream in the 1/2 beat, as you started it previously in 1/1 beat in 03:06:238 - and it's inconsistent, so i suggest moving 03:08:865 - to 03:08:696 - and change to k.
7. 03:14:289 - same as ^, move this note to 03:14:120 - for consistency?
8. 03:22:764 - same as ^ if applied, move this note to 03:22:594 - .
9. 04:13:865 - add a k here and it's feel to empty in comparation to 04:15:221 - .
10. 05:03:950 (19,20) - control+g in these notes? i think kdk fits good there with the instrumental.

1. 00:25:137 - probably you are trying to make a little of variation here, but i think the dkd fits better in 00:25:814 - changing 00:25:137 - to d, 00:25:221 - to k and 00:25:814 - to k , 00:25:899 - to d.
2. 00:27:933 - change 00:27:933 - and 00:28:018 - to d? kkddddkdk fits better with the melody imo.
3. 00:38:357 - add a k here? kdkkd fits good with the melody, as you have a long pattern in 00:27:933 - it's a bit weird and inconsistent having this easier.
4. 00:42:255 - add a k here? a long pattern ddkdkkd fits good here imo and also makes this more consistent as you usually put a note here like in 00:36:916 - .
5. 05:22:848 - change to k? i think kdk fits good with the melody like you did in 05:33:696 -.

1. 00:46:916 (8,9) - control+g in these notes? (k d) fits good with the instrumental and the melody.
2. 00:50:221 - there is a sound here and adding a k here would make a nice dkk that fits good imo, also, you have a note in 01:01:069 - , so this will make a good consistency.
3. 00:50:645 - change to D? fits good with the melody as it has a lower pitch.
4. 00:57:764 - if you applied 00:46:916 (8,9) -, swap 00:57:764 - with 00:57:933 - to make a k d d.
5. 01:01:492 - if you applied 00:50:645 - same here, D.
6. 01:37:425 - change to k for the melody? also, at least for me the next dkkdk it plays better with that k there.
7. 01:38:781 - if you applied ^ same here, change this to k.
8. 01:44:628 - change this note to k and 01:44:713 - to d making a dkd? i think fits good due to the instrumental.
9. 01:45:984 - change to k? i think kdddkkddk fits better with the melody than having kdddkdddk.
10. 02:51:238 - i suggest moving this note to 02:51:069 - as it feels weird and inconsistent starting the stream in that 1/2 beat 02:51:153 - as you started the stream previously in the 1/1 beat 02:48:611 - .
11. 02:53:357 - this 5plet sounds lot better as a ddddk, so i suggest changing 02:53:357 - and 02:53:526 - to d?
12. 05:38:103 - from here to 05:38:442 - make kkddk? the streams fits better with kkddkdkkkdkkddk imo.
13. 05:42:679 - change to k? fits good with the instrumental and the next stream flows better.

Hanjamon wrote:

Hello Guardistack, m4m as requested.

• d=Don
  D=Big Don
  k=Katsu
  K=Big Katsu

[General]

1. 05:35:306 - this sv should be progressive as 05:35:391 - feels separated from the 1/4 pattern, i suggest adding these sv inherits for a better transition.
   
   
2. 05:35:306 - x1.09
3. 05:35:221 - x1.08
4. 05:35:137 - x1.07
5. 05:35:052 - x1.06
6. 05:33:865 - x1.03

Fixed .... i never think about this lol... smooth SV up

[666 Collab lul]

Guardistack-'s parts:

1. 00:46:916 (8,9) - control+g in these notes? (k d) fits good with the instrumental and the melody. atm i reject this because the first note had lower pitch than the 2nd one
2. 00:50:221 - there is a sound here and adding a k here would make a nice dkk that fits good imo, also, you have a note in 01:01:069 - , so this will make a good consistency. fixed
3. 00:50:645 - change to D? fits good with the melody as it has a lower pitch. atm im gonna change this since i hear much better with lower
4. 00:57:764 - if you applied 00:46:916 (8,9) -, swap 00:57:764 - with 00:57:933 - to make a k d d. since i didnt change, so no
5. 01:01:492 - if you applied 00:50:645 - same here, D. changed
6. 01:37:425 - change to k for the melody? also, at least for me the next dkkdk it plays better with that k there. changed
7. 01:38:781 - if you applied ^ same here, change this to k. ^
8. 01:44:628 - change this note to k and 01:44:713 - to d making a dkd? i think fits good due to the instrumental. changed
9. 01:45:984 - change to k? i think kdddkkddk fits better with the melody than having kdddkdddk. changed
10. 02:51:238 - i suggest moving this note to 02:51:069 - as it feels weird and inconsistent starting the stream in that 1/2 beat 02:51:153 - as you started the stream previously in the 1/1 beat 02:48:611 - . replaced
11. 02:53:357 - this 5plet sounds lot better as a ddddk, so i suggest changing 02:53:357 - and 02:53:526 - to d? changed
12. 05:38:103 - from here to 05:38:442 - make kkddk? the streams fits better with kkddkdkkkdkkddk imo. changed and
13. 05:42:679 - change to k? fits good with the instrumental and the next stream flows better.

changed

Good luck~

Hanjamon wrote:

Hello Guardistack, m4m as requested.

• d=Don
  D=Big Don
  k=Katsu
  K=Big Katsu

Steven1's parts:

1. 00:25:137 - probably you are trying to make a little of variation here, but i think the dkd fits better in 00:25:814 - changing 00:25:137 - to d, 00:25:221 - to k and 00:25:814 - to k , 00:25:899 - to d. changed! I noticed that my consistency sux ;-;
2. 00:27:933 - change 00:27:933 - and 00:28:018 - to d? kkddddkdk fits better with the melody imo. i think kdddkdkdk better
3. 00:38:357 - add a k here? kdkkd fits good with the melody, as you have a long pattern in 00:27:933 - it's a bit weird and inconsistent having this easier. changed!
4. 00:42:255 - add a k here? a long pattern ddkdkkd fits good here imo and also makes this more consistent as you usually put a note here like in 00:36:916 - . thanks for the reminder, i changed it a little bit for more consistency.... but i think 00:42:255 is the same as 00:31:408 not 00:36:916
5. 05:22:848 - change to k? i think kdk fits good with the melody like you did in 05:33:696 -. changed!

Good luck~

Chromoxx wrote:

01:07:594 - you're missing very strong kicks here which is easily noticable because there aren't really any other prominent sounds (goes for the whole part)
01:10:306 - density picks up here even though there isn't any noticable change in the music

Chromoxx wrote:

few things i noticed when asked to testplay


05:35:391 - density going down here so strongly is kinda weird cos the music gets more intense, i'd suggest just keeping up the same density as before with the higher SV

also a more general thing, the stream patterning is kinda inconsistent using many different types of streams (simple ones, complex ones, kkkdk type stuff etc.) for similar sounds which is kinda weird when playing. i'd suggest trying to go for streams that are at least a bit more similar on the surface for better allround consistency

Surono wrote:

Guardistack-
00:59:374 - ini kenapa disini? seharusnya 00:59:713 - biar sama kek part pertamanya. ga perlu variasi kalau cuman ngulang 2 kali loopnya apa lagi sampe ngubah struktur demi variasi ga kepikiran pindah... padahal udah jeli bgt...

01:05:899 - teken kat biar ga monotone notesnya done

01:36:747 - ~ 01:58:103 - part lu yg bagian sini kliatannya ga nerapin konsistensi struktur tapi okelah, rapi menurut gw. perlukah saya revamp lagi untuk part ini?

kiai pertama lu rapiin, soalnya da beberapa yg rada ngawur densitynya. bagian kddkddk gitulah warnanya. tapi benah2in semua aja biar ga kliatan randomness. done.... for now... di press agak repetitive jadinya cuma di kasih variasi

Guardistack- wrote:

01:36:747 - ~ 01:58:103 - part lu yg bagian sini kliatannya ga nerapin konsistensi struktur tapi okelah, rapi menurut gw. perlukah saya revamp lagi untuk part ini?

Surono wrote:

steven
00:27:933 (35,36,37,38,39) - kdkkd lebih alus, ga ada sounds yg noticeable buat jadi kdkdk dan itu cuma sekedar flow accepted

00:28:526 (41,43) - drum yg noticeable, kat ini doang biar keteken. 00:28:442 - jadi ini di don biar ga berlbihan accepted

00:35:899 - dari sini struktur kok xxx x x x xxx? kiri2nya aja xxx x x xxx. 00:36:831 - pindah ke 00:36:662 - sudah sy pindah, sekalian triplet depannya saya bikin mirip kyk sebelumnya biar konsisten

01:31:916 - tuker ke 01:32:425 - , 01:33:357 - ke 01:33:526 - biar konsisten di stream ini awalnya mau dibikin agak variasi sih, tapi kayak gini pun kayaknya ga apa2

04:18:103 - sampe 04:20:137 - strukturnya aneh, padhal similar soundsnya jelas2 begitu tapi kok dibuat gini? mending samain kek dari 04:28:950 - accepted

04:33:865 - geser ke tick biru kanan 04:33:950 - , teken drumnya biar ga kebuang. nada nada masih bisa jadi pengecualian, tapi drum kalau di ignore itu sayang banget dan berasa kek undermapped suaranya lebih kenceng drpd drum nya sih menurut saya, kalo dibikin triplet ddd gimana?

05:15:984 - kat biar ga monotone, sekalian ngikut flow nada utama kdkdkdkdk lebih kedengeran natural, mending dibiarin supaya suara musiknya lebih ke emphasis soalnya di bagian depan2nya gak monoton kok patternnya

05:26:831 - ya sama kek sebelumnya ^

Surono wrote:

shirai-
02:00:984 - sampe 02:01:492 - hadeh.. nada penting malah dibuat gini. strukturnya jadiin x xxxxx, contoh k dkddk/dkdkd/kdkdk

02:04:374 - masih ada beat, taruh don

02:12:086 - di isi biar sama kek poin pertama

02:15:560 - hapus biar konsisten, sebelumnya aja 2plet

cieg setengahnya kiai, terinspiritid nax tatzucieg ya xixixiixixixixi xd

03:58:442 - kat, ccd dkd bkin canggung penekanan suara penting.

04:01:323 - pindah 04:01:408 -

04:03:865 - kek sebelumnya, di kat

04:09:289 - kat, 04:09:882 - don

04:12:170 - ke 04:12:255 -

05:08:865 - pasang don biar sama kek ddkkd sebelumnya 05:07:509 -

05:59:459 - ga ada suara....

06:00:814 - yg ini boleh keknya, masih ada flow lewat

1. wtf da bg lonjong amat, mending ori size imo. jadi aneh diliatnya. kepala yg cewe blonde juga kepotong pula.
2. 01:06:916 - unused greenline.
3. 01:23:187 - ^
4. 01:34:035 - inconsistent sv changes. yg pertama 1.4x yg ini 1.5x. tapi menurut gw lebih bagus 1.4x cepetnya masih bisa dinikmatin. i mean cepetnya ga ngagetin, relaxed and fun
5. 01:58:442 - mending ini jadiin slow part aja, tambahin slow sv 0.85x
6. 02:20:137 - kalo apply atas, ini balik jadi normal sv lagi
7. 03:31:662 - sv changesnya ancur amat tbh, how come bn leaves this issue x_x mending coba sv ini, much smoother :
   - 03:31:492 - 0.88x
   - 03:31:662 - 0.90x
   - 03:31:747 - 0.92x
   - 03:31:831 - 0.94x
   - 03:32:001 - 1.00x
8. 03:53:865 - sama kaya 01:34:035
9. 05:33:865 - menurut gw ini jgn dikasih sv up, ga terlalu menekan ke lagunya. lebih baik mulai dari stream kkddkkD tambahin per 0.01x jadi 1.01x sampe 1.07x trus tambahin greenline 1.10x di 05:35:476
10. 06:03:865 - unused greenline.

Surono wrote:

di gw ga kepotong masnya, karna emang pengen pake yg lebar segini juga wsnya dah aktif dan itu dah di tes pake perbandingan ss di game sama si mapper tapi tergantung dianya aja mau gimana dan kalau ada green line yang ga kepake sbnernya ga ngefek buat gameplay kecuali kalau berantakan ada banyak ya kudu di point out, ty dah deep check. mending jadi bn situ xd oh ya yang sv gitu ga usah main sindir-sindir nyebut nama gituan lah, gw juga sebagai modder ga mungkin bagus tapi gw masih bisa judge sama punya sikit cukup knowledge entah dari arahan grup ini atau pengalaman selama ini. tapi gw jujur cuman noob doang, gw kan bukan super atau expert modder atau apalah.. cuma ada titel nominatornya, bisanya ngenominasi map. kalau pengen orang kek gw kudu improve ya balik aja ke jaman nama ungu sama merah, ungu yang kerja terus merah yang nentuin. tapi buat sekarang ampun mastah otw sungkem mode, gw bakal ngati-ngati kedepannya.

poke ingame if you done with nishi things

Nishizumi wrote:

yo, just came here to improve this a bit (no kds)

1. wtf da bg lonjong amat, mending ori size imo. jadi aneh diliatnya. kepala yg cewe blonde juga kepotong pula.
2. 01:06:916 - unused greenline.
3. 01:23:187 - ^
4. 01:34:035 - inconsistent sv changes. yg pertama 1.4x yg ini 1.5x. tapi menurut gw lebih bagus 1.4x cepetnya masih bisa dinikmatin. i mean cepetnya ga ngagetin, relaxed and fun
5. 01:58:442 - mending ini jadiin slow part aja, tambahin slow sv 0.85x
6. 02:20:137 - kalo apply atas, ini balik jadi normal sv lagi
7. 03:31:662 - sv changesnya ancur amat tbh, how come bn leaves this issue x_x mending coba sv ini, much smoother :
   - 03:31:492 - 0.88x
   - 03:31:662 - 0.90x
   - 03:31:747 - 0.92x
   - 03:31:831 - 0.94x
   - 03:32:001 - 1.00x
8. 03:53:865 - sama kaya 01:34:035
9. 05:33:865 - menurut gw ini jgn dikasih sv up, ga terlalu menekan ke lagunya. lebih baik mulai dari stream kkddkkD tambahin per 0.01x jadi 1.01x sampe 1.07x trus tambahin greenline 1.10x di 05:35:476
10. 06:03:865 - unused greenline.

Shirai- wrote:

even einstein couldnt read it right

Nishizumi wrote:

yo, just came here to improve this a bit (no kds)

1. wtf da bg lonjong amat, mending ori size imo. jadi aneh diliatnya. kepala yg cewe blonde juga kepotong pula.
2. 01:06:916 - unused greenline.
3. 01:23:187 - ^
4. 01:34:035 - inconsistent sv changes. yg pertama 1.4x yg ini 1.5x. tapi menurut gw lebih bagus 1.4x cepetnya masih bisa dinikmatin. i mean cepetnya ga ngagetin, relaxed and fun
5. 01:58:442 - mending ini jadiin slow part aja, tambahin slow sv 0.85x
6. 02:20:137 - kalo apply atas, ini balik jadi normal sv lagi
7. 03:31:662 - sv changesnya ancur amat tbh, how come bn leaves this issue x_x mending coba sv ini, much smoother :
   - 03:31:492 - 0.88x
   - 03:31:662 - 0.90x
   - 03:31:747 - 0.92x
   - 03:31:831 - 0.94x
   - 03:32:001 - 1.00x
8. 03:53:865 - sama kaya 01:34:035
9. 05:33:865 - menurut gw ini jgn dikasih sv up, ga terlalu menekan ke lagunya. lebih baik mulai dari stream kkddkkD tambahin per 0.01x jadi 1.01x sampe 1.07x trus tambahin greenline 1.10x di 05:35:476
10. 06:03:865 - unused greenline.

Niko-nyan wrote:

04:50:645 - remove finisher, there is no drum sound here
05:39:459 - kkdkddkdkkd k d k ato kkdkddkdkkd kkd k
05:42:848 - dkkkd
05:43:272 - ; 05:43:442 - remove note
05:45:730 - kkk ?
05:46:153 - remove, a little awkward but can be usefull to nerf a little
05:46:238 - this long stream is too hard to nerf need a little help :'(
05:51:577 - remove
05:54:204 - prefer like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8355692 with 1/1 finishers

a little bit nerf will be good tho

no kds

edit : for steven1's part nerf
05:16:153 - ; 05:16:323 - remove
05:27:001 - ; 05:27:170 - remove

for steven1's part nerf, it has a good rest 1/2 instead of overusing 1/4

Raiden wrote:

smol things

satan
01:36:238 (2,3,4) - stuff like those probably deserve finishers for the potent crashes
03:55:899 (16,17,18) -

00:45:221 - do sv transition please no sudden 0,85x
04:18:103 - too

SPOILER

ye

IamKwaN wrote:

Why is the artist dBu instead of dBu music?

http://www.dobuusagi.com/dBu21st/
http://www.dobuusagi.com/
https://soundcloud.com/dobuusagi/nightmare-canon

also, please also provide reference for the romanised title, if there's any, thanks!

Guardistack- wrote:

poke surono and raiden to break it maybe if this is really needed to break it