Plua- wrote:

Random mod
[AiMod]
03:25:474 (194) - object isn't snapped

Mod

[Suggestion]
feel free to ignore these
00:15:221 (37) - d
00:27:594 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40) - kkddkdddk?
00:28:526 (42) - d
00:34:459 (83,84) - ctrl-g?
00:39:628 (125) - d
00:42:848 (152) - d
00:49:628 (27) - d
00:53:018 (41) - remove?
01:05:221 (109) - k
01:09:289 (8) - d
01:12:001 (19,20,21,22) - ddddk lebih pas sama lagunya imo... or ddd K
01:17:340 - add d?
01:38:696 - add d?
01:39:374 - add k?
01:39:628 (24) - d
01:42:001 (43) - d
01:44:459 - add k?
01:52:848 (123) - d
01:55:476 - d
02:09:967 (74) - sebelumnya d... change?
02:10:645 (78) - ^
02:42:933 - add d?
02:51:153 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88) - change to 02:51:153 - d 02:51:323 - kkddkkddkdkkdkddk?
02:53:950 (98) - d
02:54:374 (102) - k
02:57:086 (123,124) - kk
03:01:069 (156,157,158,159) - ctrl-g?
03:02:933 (174,178) - k
03:24:713 (187) - k
03:37:001 (54) - k
03:44:120 (12) - remove?
04:01:492 (34) - d
04:12:339 (103) - d
04:52:255 (101,104,107) - d
05:01:069 (7,8) - ctrl-g?
05:13:442 - add d?
05:27:509 (154,155,156) - ctrl-g?
05:30:560 (187,188,189) - ctrl-g?
05:58:442 (3) - d
06:02:001 (17,18) - ctrl-g?
06:03:865 (1) - D

[Consider change]
00:47:425 (11,12,13,14) - lagunya ga 1/6... mending dibuat kkd or kdd
00:47:933 (16,17,18,19) - this too... but I dunno what to change it to... maybe kdk
00:58:272 (68,69,70,71) - ^
00:58:781 (73,74,75,76) - ^
01:01:831 (93) - yg ini ada katnya sebelumnya kok ga ada? mending dibuat 2 2 nya ada ato 2 2 nya ga ada imo
01:46:916 (78,79,80,81,82) - sebelumnya ngikutin beatnya ini kok ga? 01:46:916 - d 01:47:170 - d 01:47:255 - k 01:47:425 - d
02:31:154 (86,87,88) - yg lain kkd why only this kdk? kalo bisa samain semua kdk or kkd
03:04:035 (186,187,188,189) - and 03:04:543 (192,193,194,195) - make it 1/4 or if you still want to 1/6, 03:04:091 (187) - k
03:26:237 (203,204,205,206) - 1/4
04:20:814 (22,23,24,25) - 1/4
04:24:430 (36) - move to 04:24:459 - and
04:24:656 (37) - move to 04:24:713 - ngikutin melodinya
04:31:662 (80,81,82,83) - 1/4
04:35:278 (94,95) - same as 04:24:430 (36,37) -

Summary: karena 3 org yg map kerasa beda stylenya tiap ganti verse thus making it not boring meskipun lagunya diulang"
03:04:882 - to 03:26:577 - love the streams <3
sorry if bad mod
nice map and good luck!

Plua- wrote:

Random mod
[AiMod]
03:25:474 (194) - object isn't snapped

Mod

[Suggestion]
feel free to ignore these
00:49:628 (27) - d changed
00:53:018 (41) - remove? no coz i follow the tak thing
01:05:221 (109) - k it says the pitch is high but i feel it suits low too
01:38:696 - add d? no sorry
01:39:374 - add k? added
01:39:628 (24) - dchanged
01:42:001 (43) - d im following the tak thing too
01:44:459 - add k? no sorry
01:52:848 (123) - d another tak thing
01:55:476 - d added
02:51:153 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88) - change to 02:51:153 - d 02:51:323 - kkddkkddkdkkdkddk? i follow your suggest with my own modifided notes
02:53:950 (98) - d no sorry
02:54:374 (102) - k changed
02:57:086 (123,124) - kk changed
03:01:069 (156,157,158,159) - ctrl-g? changed
03:02:933 (174,178) - k your suggest is modified a bit
03:44:120 (12) - remove? no sorry
04:52:255 (101,104,107) - d changed
05:01:069 (7,8) - ctrl-g? no sorry

[Consider change]
00:47:425 (11,12,13,14) - lagunya ga 1/6... mending dibuat kkd or kdd
00:47:933 (16,17,18,19) - this too... but I dunno what to change it to... maybe kdk
00:58:272 (68,69,70,71) - ^
00:58:781 (73,74,75,76) - ^
01:01:831 (93) - yg ini ada katnya sebelumnya kok ga ada? mending dibuat 2 2 nya ada ato 2 2 nya ga ada imo
01:46:916 (78,79,80,81,82) - sebelumnya ngikutin beatnya ini kok ga? 01:46:916 - d 01:47:170 - d 01:47:255 - k 01:47:425 - d
02:31:154 (86,87,88) - yg lain kkd why only this kdk? kalo bisa samain semua kdk or kkd
03:04:035 (186,187,188,189) - and 03:04:543 (192,193,194,195) - make it 1/4 or if you still want to 1/6, 03:04:091 (187) - k
03:26:237 (203,204,205,206) - 1/4
04:20:814 (22,23,24,25) - 1/4
04:24:430 (36) - move to 04:24:459 - and
04:24:656 (37) - move to 04:24:713 - ngikutin melodinya
04:31:662 (80,81,82,83) - 1/4
04:35:278 (94,95) - same as 04:24:430 (36,37) -

Summary: karena 3 org yg map kerasa beda stylenya tiap ganti verse thus making it not boring meskipun lagunya diulang"
03:04:882 - to 03:26:577 - love the streams <3
sorry if bad mod
nice map and good luck!

Jay E

00:09:282 - Consider adding some d here, since it feels a little awkward not having to play anything here despite the distinct low toned sounds.
thanks for pointing this out
01:12:340 (23) - Change to k for consistancy with the next ten seconds where you have k on all the white ticks.
It's destined to be a finisher, or to be exact thats the exact point where it does need to be a D.
01:22:848 (112) - Change to k for consistancy with the previous ten seconds "" "".
I'll tell you why i d it. It's because its surrounded with dolby digital k sound.
02:06:577 (53,122) - Given the tone, should probably be a k.
Nah its a d.
03:25:221 - Stream is mostly okay, though I found kkkdkkdkkdkkddk to be better.
Taken in, but I think... See it for yourself ok? :V

Theshitzumi

00:15:391 - mungkin tambahin finish kalo mau diemphasis di bagian sini
Mungkin ga skg/di map ini
00:19:459 - nah mulai dari sini dikasih 1/4 sampe 00:20:645 - biar makin sulit ? more challenging
Kayanya mendingan :v
00:20:730 - mending dibikin speedup 1.50 di slider sama big kat ? sama kaya di 01:33:950 -
Boleh jg kamu// jadi lebih ga boring D:
00:20:814 - kasih finisher di slidernya ? slider gede lebih bagus buat longslider gini imo, apalagi selanjutnya big note
Kayanya bener
01:06:916 - 01:22:679 (111,112)
Why am I taking your mods?
01:58:442
Untuk suara aja, ga perlu pemisah part juga krn technically ini 1 map wkwkwk
01:58:442
Ada kok :/ lagipula ini kan taiko :v namco aja masih ngemep
02:09:289 - maybe add finish ?
ah right i missed it
03:04:882 - ada suara cymbal di sini, tambahin finish
again
03:15:730 - ^
03:21:153 - ^
03:23:865 - ^
[strike]03:26:577 - ^[/strike] not my part lol
03:58:950 - add d ? ada musik di situ
Just how sharp are your ears?//not using headsets nor headphone tbh
04:01:408 - dan 04:01:662 - mending add d ? ada musik di situ
Just how sharp are your ears?(2)
04:04:374 - ^
04:07:255 - tambahin finisher, kyk di 03:56:408
o rite
04:09:798 - add d
04:12:255 - dan 04:12:509 - ^
04:15:221 - ^
Were invisible to my ears, but not anymore thanks Nishizumi Clinic.
05:09:628 - mending buat longstream dari sini sampe 05:10:984
Stop... Please....
05:57:086 - wtf these greenlines ?_? buat apa coba kalo ga ada notenya, ga ada fungsinya. also big donnya overlap ya. mending tetepin jadi 1.10 dulu setelah itu katnya baru kasih greenline 0.80x. cuma 2 greenline aja udah cukup bikin rapih sv changes kok
AWOKAOWKAOWKOAW TERNYATA BARLINE(barline yang tiap 4 beat(ingetnya tiap 1 beat(rencananya mau mulusin(akhirnya malah bodoh)))) NYA GA MUNCUL DI TENGAH TENGAH D sama k :v
06:03:865 oia :v

Jaye wrote:

Yo, the NM request from my queue.

[General]

1. d = don & k = kat, Caps on either for a Finisher.
2. Apologies in advance to any k nitpicks (we need more k's in maps tbh).

[ Satanic Collab]

1. 00:09:282 - Consider adding some d here, since it feels a little awkward not having to play anything here despite the distinct low toned sounds.
2. 00:36:577 (100) - Change to d, as it matches the background guitar riff that was follow in the previous area (also kkkdk feels pretty awkward here tbh).changed!
3. 01:01:323 (88) - Not necessary, but I'd recommend changing this to a d just to emphasise the next note.
4. 01:12:340 (23) - Change to k for consistancy with the next ten seconds where you have k on all the white ticks.
5. 01:22:848 (112) - Change to k for consistancy with the previous ten seconds "" "".
6. 01:32:001 (73) - Change to k "" "" consistancy etc. changed!
7. 01:33:018 (82) - I'm okay with this being d since you can hear the lower beat come in at this point. rejected, i think it's better to stick with the consistency
8. 01:37:764 (9,20) - Change to k for clapping sounds (which was done at 01:37:086 (4)).
9. 01:41:153 (37,38,39,40,41) - In line with my comment above, changing (37) to k would make sense but having this 5-plet in particular as kdkdk would sound unusual. I'd recommend changing to kdkkd to show the rise and fall of the main melody.
10. 02:06:577 (53,122) - Given the tone, should probably be a k.
11. 02:31:662 (91,92,93,94,95) & 02:34:374 (115,116,117,118,119) - Sounds a little unusual, (91/115) feels like it should be a k so I'd recommend kkddk or kkkdk. changed to kkkdk
12. 02:46:238 (26,31) - Change to k to emphasise the strongest instrument.
13. 02:58:103 (132,133,134,135,136,137,138) - Again this kddkk sort of thing feels a little awkward and unfitting, consider changing this. kkddkdk sounded good Imo.
14. 03:25:221 - Stream is mostly okay, though I found kkkdkkdkkdkkddk to be better.
15. 04:20:984 (25) - Honestly don't think the 1/6 here is super necessary, but this particular note should be k to follow the clear kdkdk type sound. changed!
16. 04:31:831 (83) - Change to k, same reason given as above ^. changed!
17. 05:21:492 (91,92) - Good stream, though I feel these too should be reversed since the ending of this stream doesn't quite fit a kdkdk with the music (kdkdd also works but I find that weird tbh).reversed! applied on 05:32:425 (209,210) too

Anyway I thought the map was pretty fun, I'll shoot you some kudosu for it

Nishizumi wrote:

[General]

a lot of unused greenlines, mending delete aja yg greenlinenya ga perlu (kaya misalnya 1.00x volume 100%, tapi greenline berikutnya juga sama. itu ga perlu, harus didelete). kalopun mau bikin pembeda part, bookmarkpun cukup

[Satanic Collab]

decrease hp obv, marathon ngapain gede2 hpnya. jadi 4.5 aja karena ini diff yg susah dan terlebih untuk ukuran marathon.

00:15:391 - mungkin tambahin finish kalo mau diemphasis di bagian sini
00:18:103 - sampe 00:19:289 - mending dibuat 1/2 aja (ilangin tripletnya) buat ngikutin beat drum dung dungnya ? penejalasan dibawahnya
00:19:459 - nah mulai dari sini dikasih 1/4 sampe 00:20:645 - biar makin sulit ? more challenging
00:20:730 - mending dibikin speedup 1.50 di slider sama big kat ? sama kaya di 01:33:950 -
00:20:814 - kasih finisher di slidernya ? slider gede lebih bagus buat longslider gini imo, apalagi selanjutnya big note
00:23:018 (77,78,79) - sini bisa diemphasis juga kalo mau. funnier imo
00:28:781 (44,45) - swap ? karena (45) nya sama periss kek 00:23:526 - pitchnya changed! tapi diganti d d
00:45:221 - bisa dikasih finish, buat penanda kalo bakal beda part lagi changed!
00:48:865 - add d di sini ? ada suara gitar di sini
00:49:459 - rasanya agak aneh kalo ini kosong, mending tambahin d ?
00:50:984 - mending mulai dari sini ikutin drum dibanding melody pianonya sampe 00:52:679 - menurut gw lebih asik di drum aja
00:59:713 - sama kaya 00:48:865
01:00:306 - sama kaya 00:49:459
01:01:831 - sampe 01:03:526 - sama kaya 00:50:984
01:06:916 - lebih baik ini jadi slow part aja di greenlinenya turunin ? maks nuruninnya sampe 0.80, tapi kalo mau smoother 0.85x aja
01:12:340 - if you apply above, kasih greenline 1.00 lagi di sini
01:22:594 (109,110) - dan 01:22:679 (111,112) - swap aja ? biar patternnya jadi kkddkkddkdk, flows better imo
01:23:187 - bisa dikasih emphasis di sini, kasih finish. buat pembeda part juga bisa changed!
01:31:323 - gw lebih suka bikin reasonable longstream sampe 01:33:865 - sih di sini dibanding ngulang2 pattern yg sebelumnya mulu. looks boring changed!
01:34:035 - mending greenline yg 1.50 di big kat depan pindahin ke sini ? biar kerasa slidernya juga, tambahin finisher juga kyk 00:20:730 changed!
01:36:238 (93,94,95) - sama kaya 00:23:018 - bisa diemphasis juga kasih finish rejected, suaranya lebih cocok k biasa..... well, saya pikirkan lg deh
01:47:425 (84,85) - swap ini, (85)nya kan sama kek 01:36:747 - napa jadi kat
01:58:103 - add d ? ada suara di sini, disayangkan bgt kalo kosong
01:58:442 - ganti jadi big don ? buat pemisah part jugaaaa, also bisa di emphasis kok
02:03:187 - delete ? ga ada suara apapun..
02:09:289 - maybe add finish ?
02:48:442 - ganti ke k ? kontras ke (43,45)
03:04:882 - ada suara cymbal di sini, tambahin finish
03:15:730 - ^
03:21:153 - ^
03:23:865 - ^
03:26:577 - ^ changed!
03:26:662 - add greenline with 0.75x ? buat variasi, ga monoton speednya 1 mulu changed! speednya 0,85 krn 0,75 kliatannya terlalu lelet + kurang cocok
03:32:001 - if you apply above, add greenline with 1.00x speed changed!
03:39:204 - add kat kyk di 03:37:848 - ? biar konsisten changed! niatnya mau dibikin agak beda sih, tapi kayaknya emg aneh
03:48:272 - sampe 03:50:814 - remove finisher di kat, annoying bgt menurut gw. musik ga terlalu emphasis tapi bakal lebih susah buat dimainin
03:50:984 - mending ganti strimnya jadi lebih bervariasi dibanding kdkdkdk yg lebih susah dihit dan ngebosenin ?
03:55:899 (16,17,18) - bisa diemphasis di sini
03:58:950 - add d ? ada musik di situ
04:01:408 - dan 04:01:662 - mending add d ? ada musik di situ
04:04:374 - ^
04:07:255 - tambahin finisher, kyk di 03:56:408
04:09:798 - add d
04:12:255 - dan 04:12:509 - ^
04:15:221 - ^
05:09:628 - mending buat longstream dari sini sampe 05:10:984
05:52:086 - bad flows, ga masuk dgn lagunya imo. mending d lebih baik
05:52:764 - sama kaya di atas
05:54:374 - sampe 05:55:730 - mending ganti yg lebih simple pattern streamnya, kek misalnya kkddkkddkkddk atau kkddkdkdddkkd etc. ini agak ribet dan ngebingungin, lagian offbeat juga =.=
05:56:408 - wtf this 1/6, pantesan ganjas gk pass. ga ada musik 1/6 di sono, kaenapa ini 1/6. hadeh
05:57:086 - wtf these greenlines ?_? buat apa coba kalo ga ada notenya, ga ada fungsinya. also big donnya overlap ya. mending tetepin jadi 1.10 dulu setelah itu katnya baru kasih greenline 0.80x. cuma 2 greenline aja udah cukup bikin rapih sv changes kok
06:03:865 - somehow gw lebih seneng ini ditetepin di 0.80x karena musiknya juga udah slow di klimaksnya.

intinya sih, mending ngikutin drumnya aja dibanding melodynya. soalnya ada yg kecampur2 pattern drum sama melody piano instrumen dll
gl om sesol, hope it helps

Jaye wrote:

Yo, the NM request from my queue.

[General]

1. d = don & k = kat, Caps on either for a Finisher.
2. Apologies in advance to any k nitpicks (we need more k's in maps tbh).

[ Satanic Collab]

1. 01:01:323 (88) - Not necessary, but I'd recommend changing this to a d just to emphasise the next note. I prefer k because both on the high pitch
2. 01:37:764 (9,20) - Change to k for clapping sounds (which was done at 01:37:086 (4)). added... seems more suits
3. 01:41:153 (37,38,39,40,41) - In line with my comment above, changing (37) to k would make sense but having this 5-plet in particular as kdkdk would sound unusual. I'd recommend changing to kdkkd to show the rise and fall of the main melody.YEP you right
4. 02:46:238 (26,31) - Change to k to emphasise the strongest instrument.changed
5. 02:58:103 (132,133,134,135,136,137,138) - Again this kddkk sort of thing feels a little awkward and unfitting, consider changing this. kkddkdk sounded good Imo.Changed

Anyway I thought the map was pretty fun, I'll shoot you some kudosu for it WOW....TYSM♥

Nishizumi wrote:

[General]

a lot of unused greenlines, mending delete aja yg greenlinenya ga perlu (kaya misalnya 1.00x volume 100%, tapi greenline berikutnya juga sama. itu ga perlu, harus didelete). kalopun mau bikin pembeda part, bookmarkpun cukup blame shirai- for this .... nanti gw organisir untuk ini

[Satanic Collab]

decrease hp obv, marathon ngapain gede2 hpnya. jadi 4.5 aja karena ini diff yg susah dan terlebih untuk ukuran marathon. changed

00:48:865 - add d di sini ? ada suara gitar di sini added
00:49:459 - rasanya agak aneh kalo ini kosong, mending tambahin d ? added
00:50:984 - mending mulai dari sini ikutin drum dibanding melody pianonya sampe 00:52:679 - menurut gw lebih asik di drum aja Revamped (untuk sementara)
00:59:713 - sama kaya 00:48:865 changed
01:00:306 - sama kaya 00:49:459 changed
01:01:831 - sampe 01:03:526 - sama kaya 00:50:984 revamped
01:47:425 (84,85) - swap ini, (85)nya kan sama kek 01:36:747 - napa jadi kat lebih prefer d D dibanding k D
01:58:103 - add d ? ada suara di sini, disayangkan bgt kalo kosong added
02:48:442 - ganti ke k ? kontras ke (43,45) udah k
03:48:272 - sampe 03:50:814 - remove finisher di kat, annoying bgt menurut gw. musik ga terlalu emphasis tapi bakal lebih susah buat dimainin bagi gw cocok2 aja karena penanda akan stream juga
03:50:984 - mending ganti strimnya jadi lebih bervariasi dibanding kdkdkdk yg lebih susah dihit dan ngebosenin ? revamped
03:55:899 (16,17,18) - bisa diemphasis di sini Maksud?
05:52:086 - bad flows, ga masuk dgn lagunya imo. mending d lebih baik changed
05:52:764 - sama kaya di atas
05:54:374 - sampe 05:55:730 - mending ganti yg lebih simple pattern streamnya, kek misalnya kkddkkddkkddk atau kkddkdkdddkkd etc. ini agak ribet dan ngebingungin, lagian offbeat juga =.= Revamped... tapi beberapa ane modif sih...
05:56:408 - wtf this 1/6, pantesan ganjas gk pass. ga ada musik 1/6 di sono, kaenapa ini 1/6. hadeh AGAK EMPET DELETE INI SIH TAPI removed... gw lebih ngikutin itu sebagai finisher dari stream aslinya

intinya sih, mending ngikutin drumnya aja dibanding melodynya. soalnya ada yg kecampur2 pattern drum sama melody piano instrumen dll
gl om sesol, hope it helps

SE_LovelySoul wrote:

Nishizumi wrote:

03:55:899 (16,17,18) - bisa diemphasis di sini Maksud?

TY.... semoga di ricek lagi sama om nishi

Nishizumi wrote:

maksud gw, bisa lebih ditekankan lagi dengan tambahin finisher.
lu kira gw bn minta diricek lagi -_-

Saturnalize wrote:

SPOILER

males mod per orang, assign masing" aja, mod diliat dari current player punya pola

1. 00:09:374 - d
2. 00:47:933 (15,16,17,18,19) - dkdkd -> 00:58:781 (81,82,83,84,85) - 04:20:814 (22,23,24,25,26) -
3. 00:54:374 (58) - d
4. 02:06:916 (55) - k
5. 02:07:255 (57) - k
6. 03:04:035 (186,187,188,189) - 1/4 ddk
7. 03:04:543 (191,192,193,194) - 1/4 kkd
8. 03:53:865 (14) - finish -> 00:20:814 (82) - 01:34:035 (100) - biar konsisten
9. 04:34:374 (98) - K changed! sekalian di bagian 04:23:526 juga
10. 04:35:730 (103) - K changed! sekalian di bagian 04:24:882 juga
11. 05:51:577 (157) - buang
12. 05:59:459 (5) - buang
    06:01:153 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - k d k k d k k

Saturnalize wrote:

SPOILER

males mod per orang, assign masing" aja, mod diliat dari current player punya pola

1. 00:09:374 - d
2. 00:47:933 (15,16,17,18,19) - dkdkd -> 00:58:781 (81,82,83,84,85) - 04:20:814 (22,23,24,25,26) -
3. 00:54:374 (58) - d
4. 02:06:916 (55) - k
5. 02:07:255 (57) - k
6. 03:04:035 (186,187,188,189) - 1/4 ddk
7. 03:04:543 (191,192,193,194) - 1/4 kkd
8. 03:53:865 (14) - finish -> 00:20:814 (82) - 01:34:035 (100) - biar konsisten
9. 04:34:374 (98) - K
10. 04:35:730 (103) - K
11. 05:51:577 (157) - buang
12. 05:59:459 (5) - buang
    06:01:153 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - k d k k d k k

Aloda wrote:

Mod. Sorry I took so long

Satanic Oni

The only specific thing I want to mention is that there are no 1/6 sounds to justify your use of 1/6 at 03:04:035 and 03:04:543 - these should definitely be 1/4 instead.

Other than that, I think that you need a little more consistency between sections. I know that can be hard to do in a collab diff like this, but it seems to me that SE_LovelySoul's mapping tends to be more dense than steven's or Shriai's. Because of this, the flow of the map is a little strange. Just consider what the other mappers have done a little more when mapping your sections.

I can tell that a lot of effort went into this map, and I think it's paid off - for the most part, this map is really good.

Good luck

Surono wrote:

oke

Bagian Umum:
metadata oke2 wae.. coba tambahin lagi creator gamenya di tags: ZUN kan mungkin bnyk yg nyari map2 toho dgn keywords creator gamenya added

Bagian si HS Clap:
* keknya "berlebihan" kalau 01:41:323 - ini jadi kat, di ubah jadi don aja deh karna ga support apa2 disini buat jadi kat. changed
* 01:42:170 - finish kalau mau rada ga jelas
* 01:43:526 - same above ^
* 01:44:882 - kat finish, nada tinggi rada aneh jg malah
* 03:55:899 (16,17,18) - wow, kat finish.. beda sama part2 yg laen ada yang nyuruh lol...

dan bener2 cuma ini aja.. sebnernya mau point out banyak tentang suara2 cymbal, setelah menit ke 2 ya skip bagian2 cymbalnya. pertimbangkan aja kalau mau nambah finish2nya lagi.. keknya udah aman2 aja bagi gw setelah lewat 2 menitan. karna emang kalau udah kolaborasi itu variety udah ga ketulungan buat di point atau di mod. cuma kudu perhatiin aja emphasis pola2 yg berlebihan kek point ke 1 di modnya si HS clap.

udah gini aja, bye

open it

sebagai balasan, mod map chata gw kalian ber3.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/551892
makasih mas bodo amet mas... tapi nanti gw mod walau bakal lama

Surono wrote:

oke

Bagian Umum:
metadata oke2 wae.. coba tambahin lagi creator gamenya di tags: ZUN kan mungkin bnyk yg nyari map2 toho dgn keywords creator gamenya

Bagian si HS Normal:
* 00:09:967 - ini cymbal kan kuat, mending tambahin kat biar kerasa penekanan buat si musik trus 00:12:679 - suara cymbal yg ini bisa dikasih finisher
* 00:15:391 - cymbal = finisher
* 00:18:103 - same above
* 00:19:289 - dari sini keknya tempo high drum udah beda, solusi cukup 00:19:289 (71,72) - ctrl g pola ini biar konsisten dengan suara drum tinggi di selanjutnya *u did kats there*
* 00:22:170 - dari suara ga begitu kuat, tapi bisa juga pake kat finish kalau emang tujuan ngempasis suara tinggi. kalau mau ubah jadi don finish trus 00:23:018 (85,86,87) - ini bisa diisi finisher, imo enak2 aja buat dikasih finisher suara drum tinggi2 gitu, malah lebih tinggi dari base drum sebelumnya

Bagian si HS Whistle:
* 00:28:103 (38,39,40) - monotone kali. aku ada dua saran, jadi dkd atau kkd? changed, jadi kkd karena kayaknya lebih butuh banyak kat
* 00:28:950 - kenapa bagian suara kek gini kebanyakan ga di isi finisher? kek si bagian HS normal aja xd changed!
* 00:30:306 (55) - don finish changed!
* 00:39:798 - cymbal, shuld don finish! changed+reworked! sekalian disini biar sama 00:41:153
* 01:35:391 (101,102,103,104) - kalau emang mirip kek bagian HS normal. liat point ke trakhir di bagian mod si HS Normal *itu sugestinya* skip dulu yang ini

Bagian si HS Clap:
* keknya "berlebihan" kalau 01:41:323 - ini jadi kat, di ubah jadi don aja deh karna ga support apa2 disini buat jadi kat.
* 01:42:170 - finish kalau mau
* 01:43:526 - same above
* 01:44:882 - kat finish, nada tinggi
* 03:55:899 (16,17,18) - wow, kat finish.. beda sama part2 yg laen

dan bener2 cuma ini aja.. sebnernya mau point out banyak tentang suara2 cymbal, setelah menit ke 2 ya skip bagian2 cymbalnya. pertimbangkan aja kalau mau nambah finish2nya lagi.. keknya udah aman2 aja bagi gw setelah lewat 2 menitan. karna emang kalau udah kolaborasi itu variety udah ga ketulungan buat di point atau di mod. cuma kudu perhatiin aja emphasis pola2 yg berlebihan kek point ke 1 di modnya si HS clap.

udah gini aja, bye

open it

sebagai balasan, mod map chata gw kalian ber3.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/551892
makasih mas

Saturnalize wrote:

SPOILER

males mod per orang, assign masing" aja, mod diliat dari current player punya pola

1. 00:09:374 - d
2. 00:47:933 (15,16,17,18,19) - dkdkd -> 00:58:781 (81,82,83,84,85) - 04:20:814 (22,23,24,25,26) -
3. 00:54:374 (58) - d
4. 02:06:916 (55) - k
5. 02:07:255 (57) - k
6. 03:04:035 (186,187,188,189) - 1/4 ddk
7. 03:04:543 (191,192,193,194) - 1/4 kkd
8. 03:53:865 (14) - finish -> 00:20:814 (82) - 01:34:035 (100) - biar konsisten
9. 04:34:374 (98) - K
10. 04:35:730 (103) - K
11. 05:51:577 (157) - buang
12. 05:59:459 (5) - buang
    06:01:153 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - k d k k d k k

Surono wrote:

oke

Bagian Umum:
metadata oke2 wae.. coba tambahin lagi creator gamenya di tags: ZUN kan mungkin bnyk yg nyari map2 toho dgn keywords creator gamenya

Bagian si HS Normal:
* 00:09:967 - ini cymbal kan kuat, mending tambahin kat biar kerasa penekanan buat si musik trus 00:12:679 - suara cymbal yg ini bisa dikasih finisher
* 00:15:391 - cymbal = finisher
* 00:18:103 - same above
* 00:19:289 - dari sini keknya tempo high drum udah beda, solusi cukup 00:19:289 (71,72) - ctrl g pola ini biar konsisten dengan suara drum tinggi di selanjutnya *u did kats there*
* 00:22:170 - dari suara ga begitu kuat, tapi bisa juga pake kat finish kalau emang tujuan ngempasis suara tinggi. kalau mau ubah jadi don finish trus 00:23:018 (85,86,87) - ini bisa diisi finisher, imo enak2 aja buat dikasih finisher suara drum tinggi2 gitu, malah lebih tinggi dari base drum sebelumnya

Bagian si HS Whistle:
* 00:28:103 (38,39,40) - monotone kali. aku ada dua saran, jadi dkd atau kkd?
* 00:28:950 - kenapa bagian suara kek gini kebanyakan ga di isi finisher? kek si bagian HS normal aja xd
* 00:30:306 (55) - don finish
* 00:39:798 - cymbal, shuld don finish!
* 01:35:391 (101,102,103,104) - kalau emang mirip kek bagian HS normal. liat point ke trakhir di bagian mod si HS Normal *itu sugestinya*

Bagian si HS Clap:
* keknya "berlebihan" kalau 01:41:323 - ini jadi kat, di ubah jadi don aja deh karna ga support apa2 disini buat jadi kat.
* 01:42:170 - finish kalau mau
* 01:43:526 - same above
* 01:44:882 - kat finish, nada tinggi
* 03:55:899 (16,17,18) - wow, kat finish.. beda sama part2 yg laen

dan bener2 cuma ini aja.. sebnernya mau point out banyak tentang suara2 cymbal, setelah menit ke 2 ya skip bagian2 cymbalnya. pertimbangkan aja kalau mau nambah finish2nya lagi.. keknya udah aman2 aja bagi gw setelah lewat 2 menitan. karna emang kalau udah kolaborasi itu variety udah ga ketulungan buat di point atau di mod. cuma kudu perhatiin aja emphasis pola2 yg berlebihan kek point ke 1 di modnya si HS clap.

udah gini aja, bye

open it

sebagai balasan, mod map chata gw kalian ber3.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/551892
makasih mas

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

21:44 Nardoxyribonucleic: 02:07:933 (62,63,64) - there are no 3/4 rhythm...
21:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: Notes like 02:12:594 (93) - should be used cautiously. Not a good choice if not supported by any sound

My Angel Yura wrote:

hi ~
d=don
k=kat
D=big don
K=big kat

mod

[Satanic Collab]
00:09:882 - add d
01:12:255 - add k
01:12:340 - change d
01:18:187 - delete
01:32:594 - change d changed!
01:33:272 - change k i think d suits better
01:33:442 - change d changed!
01:33:948 - add d i'll consider this later
01:34:035 - delete slider and add k i'll stay with slider for now
01:34:120 - add slider (but Spinner is better than Slider I think :d) i'll stay with slider for now, gonna consider this later
01:44:882 - change K
02:01:408 (22,23) - ctrl+g
02:06:916 - change k
02:08:187 (63,64) - delete
02:17:764 - change k
02:19:034 (130,1) - delete
03:31:492 - change d changed!
03:31:577 - delete deleted!
03:31:747 - change d changed!
03:31:916 - add d i want to put big don after this, so i cant make 1/4 of d
03:32:001 - change k gonna stay with D
03:39:289 - change k changed!
05:10:814 (81,82) - change k
05:10:984 - change d
05:50:899 - delete
03:25:474 (194) - object is not snapped

good luck

My Angel Yura wrote:

hi ~
d=don
k=kat
D=big don
K=big kat
[box=mod][Satanic Collab]
01:44:882 - change K Changed
05:50:899 - delete Deleted
good luck

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Here are some suggestions upon testplaying the map, mainly some consistency issues and pattern choices of 1/4 notes.

IRC mod with SE_LovelySoul, Jan 15, 2017

20:29 SE_LovelySoul: hi
20:29 Nardoxyribonucleic: hi
20:29 SE_LovelySoul: can i ask something?
21:23 SE_LovelySoul: up
21:24 Nardoxyribonucleic: ?
21:25 SE_LovelySoul: erm open for mod / M4M? or maybe if you cant... open for testplay?
21:25 Nardoxyribonucleic: testplay is okay
21:26 SE_LovelySoul: ah ok
21:26 SE_LovelySoul: so...
21:26 *SE_LovelySoul is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1129831 dBu - Kyoumu Shuusou Kyoku ~ Pandemonic Planet]
21:26 SE_LovelySoul: if you want to testplay
21:26 SE_LovelySoul:
21:26 SE_LovelySoul: thx btw if you do
21:28 *Nardoxyribonucleic is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1129831 dBu - Kyoumu Shuusou Kyoku ~ Pandemonic Planet [Satanic Collab]] <Taiko>
21:34 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm...
21:34 SE_LovelySoul: so...
21:34 SE_LovelySoul: what do you think?
21:36 Nardoxyribonucleic: Some parts are not consistent enough, and some of them do not flow smoothly.
21:36 SE_LovelySoul: ah... any suggestions?
21:37 SE_LovelySoul: ty btw
21:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: e.g. 02:20:137 (1) - could be mapped as k like the following ones 02:21:492 (11,21,31,41,52) -
21:42 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:40:814 (33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41) - you may try dkddkdkkd here
21:44 Nardoxyribonucleic: 02:07:933 (62,63,64) - there are no 3/4 rhythm...
21:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: Notes like 02:12:594 (93) - should be used cautiously. Not a good choice if not supported by any sound
21:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: I will just stop here since there are still plenty of room for improvement.
21:48 SE_LovelySoul: ah sure... thank you

Take the part from 03:42:848 to 03:55:052 - as an example. The rhythm is identical, but you used very different constellations among 03:42:848 (1,2,3,4) - 03:45:560 (25,26,27,28) - , which would be in fact a bit confusing. 04:45:221 - this part as well.

Good luck~

asuasu_yura wrote:

hi ~
d=don
k=kat
D=big don
K=big kat

mod

[Satanic Collab]
00:09:882 - add d
01:12:255 - add k
01:12:340 - change d
01:18:187 - delete
01:32:594 - change d
01:33:272 - change k
01:33:442 - change d
01:33:948 - add d
01:34:035 - delete slider and add k
01:34:120 - add slider (but Spinner is better than Slider I think :d)
01:44:882 - change K
02:01:408 (22,23) - ctrl+g
02:06:916 - change k
02:08:187 (63,64) - delete
02:17:764 - change k
02:19:034 (130,1) - delete
03:31:492 - change d
03:31:577 - delete
03:31:747 - change d
03:31:916 - add d
03:32:001 - change k
03:39:289 - change k
05:10:814 (81,82) - change k
05:10:984 - change d
05:50:899 - delete
03:25:474 (194) - object is not snapped

good luck

• d=Don
  D=Big Don
  k=Katsu
  K=Big Katsu

1. 05:35:306 - this sv should be progressive as 05:35:391 - feels separated from the 1/4 pattern, i suggest adding these sv inherits for a better transition.
   
   
2. 05:35:306 - x1.09
3. 05:35:221 - x1.08
4. 05:35:137 - x1.07
5. 05:35:052 - x1.06
6. 05:33:865 - x1.03

1. 00:12:170 - here i suggest this, control+g in 00:12:170 (24,25) - , change 00:12:509 - to d and 00:12:679 - to K finisher, sounds better and makes 00:12:679 - consistent with 00:09:967 - .
2. 00:14:882 - same as ^ if you applied for consistency, control+g in 00:14:882 (42,43) - , change 00:15:221 - to d and 00:15:391 - to K finisher.
3. 00:20:391 - change this note to d and 00:20:560 - to k? i think ddkkd fits better here.
4. 02:03:103 - i think fits better moving this note to 02:02:933 - and changing to k and deleting 02:03:187 - as there isn't a strong beat in 02:03:187 - and follows better the melody.
5. 02:13:950 - if you applied ^, same here, move 02:13:950 - to 02:13:781 - and delete 02:14:035 - for consistency.
6. 03:08:781 - as i said in Guardistack's part, it feels weird starting the stream in the 1/2 beat, as you started it previously in 1/1 beat in 03:06:238 - and it's inconsistent, so i suggest moving 03:08:865 - to 03:08:696 - and change to k.
7. 03:14:289 - same as ^, move this note to 03:14:120 - for consistency?
8. 03:22:764 - same as ^ if applied, move this note to 03:22:594 - .
9. 04:13:865 - add a k here and it's feel to empty in comparation to 04:15:221 - .
10. 05:03:950 (19,20) - control+g in these notes? i think kdk fits good there with the instrumental.

1. 00:25:137 - probably you are trying to make a little of variation here, but i think the dkd fits better in 00:25:814 - changing 00:25:137 - to d, 00:25:221 - to k and 00:25:814 - to k , 00:25:899 - to d.
2. 00:27:933 - change 00:27:933 - and 00:28:018 - to d? kkddddkdk fits better with the melody imo.
3. 00:38:357 - add a k here? kdkkd fits good with the melody, as you have a long pattern in 00:27:933 - it's a bit weird and inconsistent having this easier.
4. 00:42:255 - add a k here? a long pattern ddkdkkd fits good here imo and also makes this more consistent as you usually put a note here like in 00:36:916 - .
5. 05:22:848 - change to k? i think kdk fits good with the melody like you did in 05:33:696 -.

1. 00:46:916 (8,9) - control+g in these notes? (k d) fits good with the instrumental and the melody.
2. 00:50:221 - there is a sound here and adding a k here would make a nice dkk that fits good imo, also, you have a note in 01:01:069 - , so this will make a good consistency.
3. 00:50:645 - change to D? fits good with the melody as it has a lower pitch.
4. 00:57:764 - if you applied 00:46:916 (8,9) -, swap 00:57:764 - with 00:57:933 - to make a k d d.
5. 01:01:492 - if you applied 00:50:645 - same here, D.
6. 01:37:425 - change to k for the melody? also, at least for me the next dkkdk it plays better with that k there.
7. 01:38:781 - if you applied ^ same here, change this to k.
8. 01:44:628 - change this note to k and 01:44:713 - to d making a dkd? i think fits good due to the instrumental.
9. 01:45:984 - change to k? i think kdddkkddk fits better with the melody than having kdddkdddk.
10. 02:51:238 - i suggest moving this note to 02:51:069 - as it feels weird and inconsistent starting the stream in that 1/2 beat 02:51:153 - as you started the stream previously in the 1/1 beat 02:48:611 - .
11. 02:53:357 - this 5plet sounds lot better as a ddddk, so i suggest changing 02:53:357 - and 02:53:526 - to d?
12. 05:38:103 - from here to 05:38:442 - make kkddk? the streams fits better with kkddkdkkkdkkddk imo.
13. 05:42:679 - change to k? fits good with the instrumental and the next stream flows better.

Hanjamon wrote:

Hello Guardistack, m4m as requested.

• d=Don
  D=Big Don
  k=Katsu
  K=Big Katsu

[General]

1. 05:35:306 - this sv should be progressive as 05:35:391 - feels separated from the 1/4 pattern, i suggest adding these sv inherits for a better transition.
   
   
2. 05:35:306 - x1.09
3. 05:35:221 - x1.08
4. 05:35:137 - x1.07
5. 05:35:052 - x1.06
6. 05:33:865 - x1.03

Fixed .... i never think about this lol... smooth SV up

[666 Collab lul]

Guardistack-'s parts:

1. 00:46:916 (8,9) - control+g in these notes? (k d) fits good with the instrumental and the melody. atm i reject this because the first note had lower pitch than the 2nd one
2. 00:50:221 - there is a sound here and adding a k here would make a nice dkk that fits good imo, also, you have a note in 01:01:069 - , so this will make a good consistency. fixed
3. 00:50:645 - change to D? fits good with the melody as it has a lower pitch. atm im gonna change this since i hear much better with lower
4. 00:57:764 - if you applied 00:46:916 (8,9) -, swap 00:57:764 - with 00:57:933 - to make a k d d. since i didnt change, so no
5. 01:01:492 - if you applied 00:50:645 - same here, D. changed
6. 01:37:425 - change to k for the melody? also, at least for me the next dkkdk it plays better with that k there. changed
7. 01:38:781 - if you applied ^ same here, change this to k. ^
8. 01:44:628 - change this note to k and 01:44:713 - to d making a dkd? i think fits good due to the instrumental. changed
9. 01:45:984 - change to k? i think kdddkkddk fits better with the melody than having kdddkdddk. changed
10. 02:51:238 - i suggest moving this note to 02:51:069 - as it feels weird and inconsistent starting the stream in that 1/2 beat 02:51:153 - as you started the stream previously in the 1/1 beat 02:48:611 - . replaced
11. 02:53:357 - this 5plet sounds lot better as a ddddk, so i suggest changing 02:53:357 - and 02:53:526 - to d? changed
12. 05:38:103 - from here to 05:38:442 - make kkddk? the streams fits better with kkddkdkkkdkkddk imo. changed and
13. 05:42:679 - change to k? fits good with the instrumental and the next stream flows better.

changed

Good luck~

Hanjamon wrote:

Hello Guardistack, m4m as requested.

• d=Don
  D=Big Don
  k=Katsu
  K=Big Katsu

Steven1's parts:

1. 00:25:137 - probably you are trying to make a little of variation here, but i think the dkd fits better in 00:25:814 - changing 00:25:137 - to d, 00:25:221 - to k and 00:25:814 - to k , 00:25:899 - to d. changed! I noticed that my consistency sux ;-;
2. 00:27:933 - change 00:27:933 - and 00:28:018 - to d? kkddddkdk fits better with the melody imo. i think kdddkdkdk better
3. 00:38:357 - add a k here? kdkkd fits good with the melody, as you have a long pattern in 00:27:933 - it's a bit weird and inconsistent having this easier. changed!
4. 00:42:255 - add a k here? a long pattern ddkdkkd fits good here imo and also makes this more consistent as you usually put a note here like in 00:36:916 - . thanks for the reminder, i changed it a little bit for more consistency.... but i think 00:42:255 is the same as 00:31:408 not 00:36:916
5. 05:22:848 - change to k? i think kdk fits good with the melody like you did in 05:33:696 -. changed!

Good luck~

Chromoxx wrote:

01:07:594 - you're missing very strong kicks here which is easily noticable because there aren't really any other prominent sounds (goes for the whole part)
01:10:306 - density picks up here even though there isn't any noticable change in the music

Chromoxx wrote:

few things i noticed when asked to testplay


05:35:391 - density going down here so strongly is kinda weird cos the music gets more intense, i'd suggest just keeping up the same density as before with the higher SV

also a more general thing, the stream patterning is kinda inconsistent using many different types of streams (simple ones, complex ones, kkkdk type stuff etc.) for similar sounds which is kinda weird when playing. i'd suggest trying to go for streams that are at least a bit more similar on the surface for better allround consistency

Surono wrote:

Guardistack-
00:59:374 - ini kenapa disini? seharusnya 00:59:713 - biar sama kek part pertamanya. ga perlu variasi kalau cuman ngulang 2 kali loopnya apa lagi sampe ngubah struktur demi variasi ga kepikiran pindah... padahal udah jeli bgt...

01:05:899 - teken kat biar ga monotone notesnya done

01:36:747 - ~ 01:58:103 - part lu yg bagian sini kliatannya ga nerapin konsistensi struktur tapi okelah, rapi menurut gw. perlukah saya revamp lagi untuk part ini?

kiai pertama lu rapiin, soalnya da beberapa yg rada ngawur densitynya. bagian kddkddk gitulah warnanya. tapi benah2in semua aja biar ga kliatan randomness. done.... for now... di press agak repetitive jadinya cuma di kasih variasi

Guardistack- wrote:

01:36:747 - ~ 01:58:103 - part lu yg bagian sini kliatannya ga nerapin konsistensi struktur tapi okelah, rapi menurut gw. perlukah saya revamp lagi untuk part ini?