13:52 Stefan: are you around?
13:56 Ellyu: yes
13:57 Ellyu:
13:57 Stefan: good, just finishing my breakfast and we can start the IRC mod for your map. :3c
13:57 Ellyu: breakfast...
13:58 Ellyu: I saw ur local time is 13:57
13:58 Stefan: yeah.. I woke up late a bit
14:06 Stefan: Okay
14:07 Stefan: let's see what we have
14:07 Ellyu: :3
14:08 Stefan: We were checking Oni last time iirc
14:08 Stefan: let me just check the mod post I did
14:09 Stefan: O
14:09 Stefan: thzz were modding too
14:09 Stefan: that's nice, so the map is even more different now
14:09 Ellyu: yes
14:10 Ellyu: 3 month ago he said he would mod it
14:10 Stefan: I see
14:10 Ellyu: and he mod it last week
14:10 Ellyu: lmao
14:10 Stefan: slowpoke
14:10 *Stefan shrugs
14:13 Stefan: I think it's save to say Inner Oni and Oni are fine
14:13 Stefan: so we don't need to go through them
14:13 *Stefan is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247898 illion - AIWAGUMA [Muzukashii]]
14:16 Ellyu: cool
14:18 Stefan: 00:43:611 (44) - you could move the note to 00:43:781 - for some consistency to 00:42:418 (40,41) -
14:18 Stefan: Either way, you could also remove 00:42:418 (40,44) - instead
14:18 Stefan: for less density
14:19 Ellyu: okay
14:19 Ellyu: removed now
14:21 Ellyu: remove 00:44:293 (45) - too
14:21 Stefan: Good
14:26 Stefan: 00:22:304 - 00:22:815 - the SV boost could be done earlier, especially because of the triplet on 00:21:963 (12,13,14,15) - which can be really hard to read for Muzukashii players.
14:26 Stefan: maybe 00:11:224 (33,34,35) - ?
14:27 Stefan: That can be consistent for Oni and Inner Oni too if you like that spot.
14:27 Ellyu: hmmm
14:27 Ellyu: i see
14:27 Stefan: For Muzukashii it's crucial to use SV changes
14:28 Stefan: so you need to take more caution for them
14:30 Ellyu: fixed~
14:31 Stefan: 00:59:463 (106) - personally I'd consider a removal of the note
14:32 Stefan: it feels better to me without tapping on that time spot.
14:34 Ellyu: if there should be a removal in this pattern.somehow i feel better to remove 00:59:122 (105) -
14:35 Stefan: Well, that is also fine!
14:36 Stefan: 01:41:054 (53) - could be removed too to shortend the combo a bit
14:37 Stefan: and 01:54:690 (6) - is the only note that doesn't fit that much song-wise, also recommend to remove.
14:37 Stefan: (kiai here is pretty nice btw!)
14:38 Ellyu: 01:54:690 (6) - removed
14:38 Ellyu: but i think 01:41:054 (53) - is fine. i try to use a longer combo to start the kiai
14:39 Stefan: I see, okay.
14:42 Stefan: However, as cool as the Kiai is in Muzukashii but it's still too simple corresponding to Oni
14:42 Stefan: Especially because Muzukashii doesn't provide any triplets
14:43 Ellyu: cuz there used to be a lite oni lol
14:44 Stefan: What was the reason for removal?
14:45 Ellyu: it's too crude
14:47 Stefan: I see.
14:48 Stefan: Well.. then we have to solve this somehow for Muzukashii then
14:49 Stefan: 01:43:440 - triplet here?
14:49 Ellyu: futsuu:537 circles muzu:794 circles oni:1133
14:49 Stefan: Well, that sounds fine, considering we can add some more notes to Muzukashii
14:50 Stefan: 01:48:895 - another triplet? Maybe even kkk
14:50 Ellyu: ummm
14:51 Ellyu: wait a minute
14:51 Ellyu: i can decide and upload to show you
14:51 Stefan: sure
14:51 Ellyu: maybe you can check futsuu now
14:52 Stefan: uh.. well, I want to have one difficulty done.
14:52 Stefan: If you need longer you're free to take your time
14:52 Ellyu: okay
14:52 Stefan: because I have more than enough of that
15:00 Ellyu: done
15:01 Stefan: Hmm, yeah that looks much better now
15:01 Stefan: just 01:54:009 (3,7) - to be removed
15:01 Stefan: then I am perfectly fine with the Kiai
15:02 Ellyu: oops
15:02 Ellyu: removed now
15:02 Stefan: Alright.
15:05 Stefan: Mind asking
15:05 Stefan: Why are you using the same taiko hitsounds as custom hitsounds for.. uh Taiko?
15:07 Ellyu: wait
15:07 Ellyu: uhh
15:07 Stefan: Or maybe.. maybe I should re-dl the map
15:07 Stefan: brb
15:07 Ellyu: my default hitsound is different from it
15:08 Ellyu: i am pretty sure cuz i stole the hitsound from other's map lol
15:08 Stefan: So it's to force the TnT hitsounds for the map
15:10 Stefan: hmhmh, dunno if that's necessary at all. But we'll leave it like that rn.
15:10 Ellyu: the japanese style hitsound fit the music well imo
15:12 Stefan: well. I can't deny that, It is just if other BNs will agree with that usage.
15:14 Stefan: Okay, we're done with Muzukashii
15:14 Ellyu: cool
15:14 Stefan: Just let us quick check for Oni's 2nd Kiai, we may do some split to fit better to Muzukashii
15:15 Ellyu: okay
15:16 Stefan: 03:00:486 (153) - sounds to me the best to remove, combo lenght is quite long considering how short they're in Muzukashii
15:16 Stefan: 03:04:918 (181) - ^
15:17 Ellyu: i see
15:17 Ellyu: removed now
15:17 Stefan: 03:18:895 (13) - ^
15:17 Stefan: 03:22:645 (8) - ^
15:17 Stefan: 03:29:804 (59) - ^
15:18 Stefan: That should do it.
15:21 Ellyu: 03:18:895 - 03:29:804 - removed. 03:22:645 - move to 03:22:730 - and remove 03:23:071 -
15:22 Stefan: aight
15:28 Stefan: Ah, let go afk quick
15:53 Stefan: k back
15:54 Stefan: 00:22:134 - 00:22:474 - 00:22:815 - SV boosts for Futsuu should not be used at all
15:55 Stefan: as well for 00:00:997 - to not reduce it.
15:57 Ellyu: okay
15:57 Ellyu: green line removed
15:57 Stefan: 01:02:531 (1) - instead of this time spot you could move it to 01:01:509 -
15:58 Stefan: like you did 00:55:543 (63,64,65,66) -
15:59 Ellyu: uhh
16:00 Ellyu: did you said anything before "like you did 00:55:542(63,64,65,66)-"
16:00 Ellyu: my network kinda suck now
16:01 Stefan: nah
16:01 Stefan: that was my last message
16:06 Stefan: 02:52:815 (48) - Why isn't that note a finisher note?
16:06 Stefan: Like all other difficulties did.
16:07 Stefan: additionally, you can also change the note on this spot in the Muzukashii to D
16:08 Ellyu: sorry i just went to switch a network interface
16:08 Ellyu: hope it works now
16:09 Stefan: Ah, okay
16:09 Stefan: 02:52:815 (48) - Why isn't that note a finisher note?
16:09 Stefan: Like all other difficulties did
16:09 Stefan: As well for the note on the same time spot in Muzukashii
16:10 Ellyu: oops i miss that
16:11 Ellyu: fixed
16:13 Stefan: 02:25:543 - 02:34:747 - personally I wouldn't recommend the long break here between, that are my 2 cents
16:13 Stefan: but that section can have some more 1/2 notes
16:13 Stefan: to fit better for the spread.
16:14 Stefan: but I think that's it.