Noriko Mitose - Duel Alternatives [CatchTheBeat]

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Sanyi
From my modding queue

Info: My keyboard is kinda broken - playability issues I mention might be caused by my keyboard instead of the pattern (but it shouldn't be too bad - I got a 1387 combo in my 4th try).

Kudosu only when helpful!

Verethragna
  1. 00:35:870 (4,1) - is inconsistent with 00:30:555 (2,1) - . I would therefore remove the hyperdash.
  2. 01:47:355 (8,1) - I would add a soft hyperdash here - that would make it more consistent with the previous part and makes sense rhythm-wise imo.
  3. 02:38:097 (2) - Move this to something like x:68 - looks better and plays smoother.
  4. 03:28:154 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - This is vicious antiflow - I miss always 03:28:754 (2) - . To catch here everything you need to hyperjump pretty precisely to land at a position where you get 03:28:754 (2) - without moving or you need to move left after the hyperdash which leads easily to a miss of 03:28:840 (3,4) - . I would make this stream more linear to the right or atleast move 03:28:754 (2) - a bit more to the right so that it's not so easy to miss here.
  5. 04:42:040 (2) - Is it really necessary to put that one so far left? Sure the previous notes somehow lead to the left but that wasn't enough for me to realize that the next note would come at the very left - which caused me to miss the pattern afterwards (the two fullscreen hypers). I would put that a bit more right - something like x:64 would do (which would also lead to the fact that the two hypers have the same length). If you decide to that you should maybe put 04:41:354 (1) - a bit more to the right as well.
  6. 06:14:097 (2,3) - Is this hyperdash really necessary? I think a more spare usage of hypers in this calm is better. What did you even emphasize? The vocal?
  7. 06:22:840 (1,1) - I would add a hyper here instead since there is this sound starting from 06:23:954 - which climaxes into 06:24:040 (1) - .
Sorry that the mod is so short, i couldn't find more :cry:

Nice stream patterns, put this map on the nomination planner bro :)
Topic Starter
Benita

Sanyi wrote:

From my modding queue

Info: My keyboard is kinda broken - playability issues I mention might be caused by my keyboard instead of the pattern (but it shouldn't be too bad - I got a 1387 combo in my 4th try).

Kudosu only when helpful!

Verethragna
  1. 00:35:870 (4,1) - is inconsistent with 00:30:555 (2,1) - . I would therefore remove the hyperdash. or i can add another hyperdash >:)
  2. 01:47:355 (8,1) - I would add a soft hyperdash here - that would make it more consistent with the previous part and makes sense rhythm-wise imo. absolutely
  3. 02:38:097 (2) - Move this to something like x:68 - looks better and plays smoother. sure
  4. 03:28:154 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - This is vicious antiflow - I miss always 03:28:754 (2) - . To catch here everything you need to hyperjump pretty precisely to land at a position where you get 03:28:754 (2) - without moving or you need to move left after the hyperdash which leads easily to a miss of 03:28:840 (3,4) - . I would make this stream more linear to the right or atleast move 03:28:754 (2) - a bit more to the right so that it's not so easy to miss here. I personally really like this pattern cause it compliments the music really well. I also have no problems hitting them and it's not as harsh as you're making it seem
  5. 04:42:040 (2) - Is it really necessary to put that one so far left? Sure the previous notes somehow lead to the left but that wasn't enough for me to realize that the next note would come at the very left - which caused me to miss the pattern afterwards (the two fullscreen hypers). I would put that a bit more right - something like x:64 would do (which would also lead to the fact that the two hypers have the same length). If you decide to that you should maybe put 04:41:354 (1) - a bit more to the right as well. moved the whole pattern to the right to make the hypers equal!
  6. 06:14:097 (2,3) - Is this hyperdash really necessary? I think a more spare usage of hypers in this calm is better. What did you even emphasize? The vocal? pitch yea, think it's ok
  7. 06:22:840 (1,1) - I would add a hyper here instead since there is this sound starting from 06:23:954 - which climaxes into 06:24:040 (1) - . sure
Sorry that the mod is so short, i couldn't find more :cry:

Nice stream patterns, put this map on the nomination planner bro :)
Thanks! You're more helpful than you think you are :3
Hareimu
mod thing

[Verethragna]
  1. 01:15:298 (6) - You could move this slider to x:141 to emphasize noriko's voice's strength increase on this vocal line (also to differenciate it from the two previous 01:12:555 (1,2) - 01:13:927 (1,2) - patterns like these)
  2. 01:18:041 (1) - Moving this one to x:183 and then using ctrl+g can create a nice movement (might as well make 01:18:212 (2) - completely horizontal to make it flow better)
  3. 01:20:955 (2) - Making this one completely horizontal and moving it to x:317 and then 01:21:127 (3) - ctrl+g this one makes a nice left-left pattern that also correctly emphasizes the strength of noriko's voice.
  4. 01:26:270 (1) - Move to x:143? noriko's voice is highly-pitched here, so not emphasizing it with a hdash looks kinda weird to me. You could also ctrl+g it to create some variation on the movement.
  5. 01:46:841 (5,6,7,8) - Move this whole to x:259 to emphasize the snare sound at 01:46:841 (5) - with a hdash, since you've been doing so in patterns like 01:42:384 (2,3) - and 01:43:927 (3,4) - .
  6. 01:54:727 (1) - You could vary the shape of this slider so that it also goes to the left side of the screen momentarily and then return to the right side so that it doesn't cover the right side all the time, but this is optional.
  7. 02:49:926 (5,6,7,8) - These could also be two pairs of objects with hyperdashes in between, moving 02:50:097 (7,8) - to x:405 and then 02:50:183 (8) - to x:374.
  8. 02:58:497 (1,2,3,4,5) - You could add a hyperdash between 1 and 2 since there is a snare sound being played at 2, but if not, at least reduce the distance between them a bit, the dash is kinda hard (not to mention the antiflow the curve made by 2345 has). This can be easily fixed by tilting 02:58:497 (1) - a bit more vertically.
  9. 03:01:926 (1,2) - As before, you could add a hyperdash between these two to emphasize noriko's voice here. Moving 03:02:097 (2) - to x:245 and then ctrl+ging it does the trick and also plays really nicely.
  10. 03:04:840 (2) - ^, but moving it to x:87 this time. All these are optional if what you're intending to do is to use normal dashes between them.
  11. 03:10:326 (2) - ^, but to x:316 to emphasize the snare sound at 03:10:497 (3) - this time.
  12. 03:15:640 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - All these left-right jumps feel kinda boring IMO. Maybe progressively increasing distance between them (not 3,5x all the time, but 3,5x then 4x then 4,5x and so on) could work better.
  13. 03:20:440 (1,2,1,2,1) - Thought you'd use 1/8 curved streams for these or maybe 1/8 repeats, they'd fit better for the wubwub sounds. ESPECIALLY for 03:25:926 (1) - this slider, this could really work well if you ctrl+shift+f'd it into 1/8 streams.
  14. 04:35:869 (2,3) - ctrl+shift+s > 0,9x? right now the dashes are a bit too large and unexpected as such.
  15. 04:47:526 (4) - I'd just copypaste 04:46:840 (3) - for this slider myself, the shape of it looks really off and could use some more curving in.
  16. 05:08:440 (3,1,2,3,4) - These sliders feel a little bit boring and could use some variety even if the song is actually in a buildup. ctrl+ging any of the sliders could do the trick to break the left-right-left-right outward pointing sliders immersion it has currently.
  17. 05:17:011 (1) - PLEASE turn this slider into a 1/8 stream, it's just calling for it too goddamn much and it'd play beautifully as such ;w;
  18. 05:18:040 (3) - Move to x:278? Right now it feels like a strange stack of sorts.
  19. 05:20:783 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - reeeee everything is on the right side and the left side is almost empty, please spread some of the patterns to the left as well to compensate.
  20. 05:38:954 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - left... right... left... right... I think you could take 05:40:326 (1) - this slider for example, since the guitar pitch here is REALLY high and could use some differentiation from the previous sliders, and make it completely horizontal pointing to the left, and then ctrl+h 05:41:011 (2,1,2) - these three sliders to properly chain them back to the normal map without any major changes needed. All this makes the section a lot less repetitive and fun to play.
  21. 06:18:383 (3) - Make this slider completely horizontal to the right to trigger a hdash to the next slider. This is to keep consistency with the previous sections in which you did this, such as 06:14:269 (3,1) - and 06:15:811 (4,1) - .
  22. 06:20:097 (1) - ctrl+shift+r > turn by 40° and move to x:360 for the same reason as previous point.
  23. 06:37:411 (2) - Move to x:134?
  24. 07:27:983 (6,7) - Deep inside I feel this antiflow can be kinda unexpected for the map's ending. I'd rather do this with them, plays better IMO.

GORGEOUS song right here, and the map doesn't disappoint either, good job and good luck with pushing this for rank! <3
Topic Starter
Benita

Hareimu wrote:

mod thing

[Verethragna]
  1. 01:15:298 (6) - You could move this slider to x:141 to emphasize noriko's voice's strength increase on this vocal line (also to differenciate it from the two previous 01:12:555 (1,2) - 01:13:927 (1,2) - patterns like these) pp
  2. 01:18:041 (1) - Moving this one to x:183 and then using ctrl+g can create a nice movement (might as well make 01:18:212 (2) - completely horizontal to make it flow better) pp
  3. 01:20:955 (2) - Making this one completely horizontal and moving it to x:317 and then 01:21:127 (3) - ctrl+g this one makes a nice left-left pattern that also correctly emphasizes the strength of noriko's voice. pp
  4. 01:26:270 (1) - Move to x:143? noriko's voice is highly-pitched here, so not emphasizing it with a hdash looks kinda weird to me. You could also ctrl+g it to create some variation on the movement. pp
  5. 01:46:841 (5,6,7,8) - Move this whole to x:259 to emphasize the snare sound at 01:46:841 (5) - with a hdash, since you've been doing so in patterns like 01:42:384 (2,3) - and 01:43:927 (3,4) - . removed the clap cause there actually is no snare in the song
  6. 01:54:727 (1) - You could vary the shape of this slider so that it also goes to the left side of the screen momentarily and then return to the right side so that it doesn't cover the right side all the time, but this is optional. made it cool
  7. 02:49:926 (5,6,7,8) - These could also be two pairs of objects with hyperdashes in between, moving 02:50:097 (7,8) - to x:405 and then 02:50:183 (8) - to x:374. no i follow vocal
  8. 02:58:497 (1,2,3,4,5) - You could add a hyperdash between 1 and 2 since there is a snare sound being played at 2, but if not, at least reduce the distance between them a bit, the dash is kinda hard (not to mention the antiflow the curve made by 2345 has). This can be easily fixed by tilting 02:58:497 (1) - a bit more vertically. pp
  9. 03:01:926 (1,2) - As before, you could add a hyperdash between these two to emphasize noriko's voice here. Moving 03:02:097 (2) - to x:245 and then ctrl+ging it does the trick and also plays really nicely. pp
  10. 03:04:840 (2) - ^, but moving it to x:87 this time. All these are optional if what you're intending to do is to use normal dashes between them pp
  11. 03:10:326 (2) - ^, but to x:316 to emphasize the snare sound at 03:10:497 (3) - this time. pp
  12. 03:15:640 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - All these left-right jumps feel kinda boring IMO. Maybe progressively increasing distance between them (not 3,5x all the time, but 3,5x then 4x then 4,5x and so on) could work better. pp
  13. 03:20:440 (1,2,1,2,1) - Thought you'd use 1/8 curved streams for these or maybe 1/8 repeats, they'd fit better for the wubwub sounds. ESPECIALLY for 03:25:926 (1) - this slider, this could really work well if you ctrl+shift+f'd it into 1/8 streams. pp
  14. 04:35:869 (2,3) - ctrl+shift+s > 0,9x? right now the dashes are a bit too large and unexpected as such. fixed distance
  15. 04:47:526 (4) - I'd just copypaste 04:46:840 (3) - for this slider myself, the shape of it looks really off and could use some more curving in. that breaks the distance to the next note so no
  16. 05:08:440 (3,1,2,3,4) - These sliders feel a little bit boring and could use some variety even if the song is actually in a buildup. ctrl+ging any of the sliders could do the trick to break the left-right-left-right outward pointing sliders immersion it has currently. increased the spacing but won't change the pattern
  17. 05:17:011 (1) - PLEASE turn this slider into a 1/8 stream, it's just calling for it too goddamn much and it'd play beautifully as such ;w; pp
  18. 05:18:040 (3) - Move to x:278? Right now it feels like a strange stack of sorts. did ish
  19. 05:20:783 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - reeeee everything is on the right side and the left side is almost empty, please spread some of the patterns to the left as well to compensate. tried balancing it
  20. 05:38:954 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - left... right... left... right... I think you could take 05:40:326 (1) - this slider for example, since the guitar pitch here is REALLY high and could use some differentiation from the previous sliders, and make it completely horizontal pointing to the left, and then ctrl+h 05:41:011 (2,1,2) - these three sliders to properly chain them back to the normal map without any major changes needed. All this makes the section a lot less repetitive and fun to play.did something
  21. 06:18:383 (3) - Make this slider completely horizontal to the right to trigger a hdash to the next slider. This is to keep consistency with the previous sections in which you did this, such as 06:14:269 (3,1) - and 06:15:811 (4,1) - . pitch is lower here which is why no hdash
  22. 06:20:097 (1) - ctrl+shift+r > turn by 40° and move to x:360 for the same reason as previous point.
  23. 06:37:411 (2) - Move to x:134?
  24. 07:27:983 (6,7) - Deep inside I feel this antiflow can be kinda unexpected for the map's ending. I'd rather do this with them, plays better IMO.

GORGEOUS song right here, and the map doesn't disappoint either, good job and good luck with pushing this for rank! <3
thanks for more ppd :^)
Divine Cake
my 2nd attempt at modding this, atleast now i know some mapping rather than nothing.

00:05:184 (2) - maaaaaybe move to something like x:160. feels a bit overspaced too tho, just missing some spacing on 00:04:670 (1,2,3) -
00:18:384 (1,2) - don't like those straight sliders that much, id use something like this:
(may need remake 00:18:727 (3) - a bit for better flow)

00:47:184 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - rly like how this fits with the music. tho maybe tilt 00:47:527 (3) - a bit more to the right to make the transition towards the right side clearer. (also 00:47:870 (1,3) - to have a constant increase in rightward tilt).
01:00:898 (1) - shouldnt the stream start here?
01:20:098 (1) - ignoring the fact that the flow gets compleatly ruined (might be fixable), coulnt there be a repeat 1/4 slider till here 01:20:355 -? Because of the vibrato
01:34:498 - 01:35:184 - missing something here, but you cant just add a repeat on 01:33:812 (5) - maybe reduce slider by 1/4 and add another slider on the next white tick equaly long as the other.
02:45:983 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - another vibrato, another possibility for a repeat slider.
03:14:269 (1) - maybe just drop the repeat and increase length to a 1/2 beat slider.
03:25:926 (1) - feel a 1/8 stream fits better with the wub. in this one too 03:36:897 (1) -
03:31:069 (6) - shouldnt this slider end on the blue tick after? dont hear anything clear on 03:31:240 -
04:09:811 - 04:28:669 - feel all the tripples like this 04:09:811 (1,2,3) - have too little movement, id like some back and forth movement. something like 0.60x - 0.70x (or other patterns, just spacing is a bit to low between the beats).
05:23:869 (1) - id like a slow slider, something like

06:02:269 (1) - this note is stronger than 06:01:926 (6) - but they have the same spacing.
the next points are about the same spacing issue, feel like you should emphesise the vocal more. something like 2.50x - 2.60x
06:03:297 (6,1) -
06:06:040 (7,1) -
06:07:411 (6,1) -

its not much, but its what i found worth complaining about. GL on the map, cool song
Topic Starter
Benita

Divine Cake wrote:

my 2nd attempt at modding this, atleast now i know some mapping rather than nothing.

00:05:184 (2) - maaaaaybe move to something like x:160. feels a bit overspaced too tho, just missing some spacing on 00:04:670 (1,2,3) - no hypers here, introducing them here 00:07:412 - which is a pretty distinct beat
00:18:384 (1,2) - don't like those straight sliders that much, id use something like this: I don't like wiggles ):
(may need remake 00:18:727 (3) - a bit for better flow)

00:47:184 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - rly like how this fits with the music. tho maybe tilt 00:47:527 (3) - a bit more to the right to make the transition towards the right side clearer. (also 00:47:870 (1,3) - to have a constant increase in rightward tilt). fixed it a bit
01:00:898 (1) - shouldnt the stream start here? very true
01:20:098 (1) - ignoring the fact that the flow gets compleatly ruined (might be fixable), coulnt there be a repeat 1/4 slider till here 01:20:355 -? Because of the vibrato I don't quite like that, the current pattern is playing around with the vocals and mapping too much of the background noises will end up drowning the vocals
01:34:498 - 01:35:184 - missing something here, but you cant just add a repeat on 01:33:812 (5) - maybe reduce slider by 1/4 and add another slider on the next white tick equaly long as the other. I really really don't like how this turned out because I can't reduce the distance to the previous note and shit so might change it back to how it originally was cause that played a lot better......
02:45:983 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - another vibrato, another possibility for a repeat slider. what nothing changes here
03:14:269 (1) - maybe just drop the repeat and increase length to a 1/2 beat slider. true
03:25:926 (1) - feel a 1/8 stream fits better with the wub. in this one too 03:36:897 (1) -
03:31:069 (6) - shouldnt this slider end on the blue tick after? dont hear anything clear on 03:31:240 -
04:09:811 - 04:28:669 - feel all the tripples like this 04:09:811 (1,2,3) - have too little movement, id like some back and forth movement. something like 0.60x - 0.70x (or other patterns, just spacing is a bit to low between the beats).
05:23:869 (1) - id like a slow slider, something like

06:02:269 (1) - this note is stronger than 06:01:926 (6) - but they have the same spacing.
the next points are about the same spacing issue, feel like you should emphesise the vocal more. something like 2.50x - 2.60x
06:03:297 (6,1) -
06:06:040 (7,1) -
06:07:411 (6,1) -

its not much, but its what i found worth complaining about. GL on the map, cool song
posting to not lose progress brb thanks for mod
koliron
2017-11-25 12:39 koliron: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1128661 Noriko Mitose - Duel Alternatives [Verethragna]]
2017-11-25 12:39 koliron: comr
2017-11-25 12:39 Benny-: owo
2017-11-25 12:40 koliron: what do you think about an hyper here 00:16:670 (6,1) - ? i think it would work so nice with that sound!
2017-11-25 12:42 Benny-: done
2017-11-25 12:42 koliron: ok
2017-11-25 12:43 koliron: 00:20:441 (4,5,6) - since there's a 1/2 jump after 1/4 hyper, i think make 00:20:784 (6) - a little more curvy would be better played
2017-11-25 12:43 koliron: when i jump to that 6, its hard to stop the dash
2017-11-25 12:43 koliron: correctly*
2017-11-25 12:43 koliron: maybe its because im noob, test it just in case
2017-11-25 12:44 Benny-: i think its fine owo
2017-11-25 12:44 koliron: yeah maybe, i just woke up, nvm it lmao
2017-11-25 12:44 koliron: 00:29:698 (1,2,1) - i personally dont think that hyper deserves that much distance
2017-11-25 12:45 koliron: everything is calm around and this is an hyper from wall to wall :C
2017-11-25 12:45 koliron: you could move 1 to the right and 2 to the left and iit would still be hyper
2017-11-25 12:45 Benny-: decreased it
2017-11-25 12:46 Benny-: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9620790
2017-11-25 12:46 Benny-: is like this now
2017-11-25 12:46 koliron: looks better!
2017-11-25 12:48 koliron: 01:05:012 (1,2,3,4) - what about make this stream a little more horizontal? so it would still be hard but wont make the ryuuta stop there
2017-11-25 12:49 Benny-: noob :^)
2017-11-25 12:49 Benny-: kidding
2017-11-25 12:49 koliron: hahaha
2017-11-25 12:49 Benny-: what kind of horisontal are you thinking
2017-11-25 12:49 Benny-: like linear horisontal or just more distance between the notes
2017-11-25 12:50 koliron: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9620820
2017-11-25 12:50 koliron: like this
2017-11-25 12:52 Benny-: i cant tell if it plays better or not
2017-11-25 12:52 Benny-: i guess ill put it like that for a while and see what i think
2017-11-25 12:52 koliron: okii
2017-11-25 12:53 koliron: 01:36:041 (4,5,6) - i think you could change the distance 4,5 by a little, its like a dash but is not at the same time!
2017-11-25 12:53 koliron: i mean is not an "obvious" dash
2017-11-25 12:53 koliron: what baout put 4 where 6 is
2017-11-25 12:54 Benny-: ok
2017-11-25 12:54 Benny-: it was to give a bit leniency after the harsh jumps
2017-11-25 12:54 Benny-: but i mean it doesn't matter that much so i dont mind changing it
2017-11-25 12:54 koliron: o
2017-11-25 12:54 koliron: maybe
2017-11-25 12:55 koliron: 01:54:727 (1) - loved this slider
2017-11-25 12:55 Benny-: thanks
2017-11-25 12:55 Benny-: there will be better
2017-11-25 12:55 koliron: <3
2017-11-25 12:55 koliron: o why
2017-11-25 12:55 koliron: its good as how it is!
2017-11-25 12:55 koliron: fine*
2017-11-25 12:56 Benny-: no i mean
2017-11-25 12:56 Benny-: there are better ones later in the map
2017-11-25 12:56 koliron: aaah
2017-11-25 12:56 koliron: yeaaa
2017-11-25 12:57 koliron: 03:03:297 (1,2,3) - the vocal is getting stronger but the hypers are closer
2017-11-25 12:58 koliron: what about move 3 a little to the left?
2017-11-25 12:59 koliron: 03:28:669 (1,2,3,4) - dont let people make you change this!!!!!!
2017-11-25 12:59 Benny-: they already tried!! D:
2017-11-25 12:59 Benny-: done btw
2017-11-25 12:59 koliron: xD
2017-11-25 13:00 koliron: i love how everyone asks for hard maps and they are the first to criticize patterns like these :^)
2017-11-25 13:00 Benny-: no it's like
2017-11-25 13:00 Benny-: they want hard maps
2017-11-25 13:00 Benny-: but mods out everything hard in maps
2017-11-25 13:01 koliron: indeed
2017-11-25 13:01 koliron: 04:30:726 (5,6,1) -
2017-11-25 13:01 koliron: the jump from 6 to 1 feels a little weird isnt it?
2017-11-25 13:01 koliron: maybe because of the previous 1/4 hyper
2017-11-25 13:01 Benny-: its supposed to be hard
2017-11-25 13:01 Benny-: or
2017-11-25 13:02 Benny-: harsh
2017-11-25 13:02 Benny-: i guess
2017-11-25 13:02 koliron: oh then its fine
2017-11-25 13:02 Benny-: it's become a thing im doing recently
2017-11-25 13:02 Benny-: putting long dashes after harsh 1/4 hypers
2017-11-25 13:02 Benny-: LOL
2017-11-25 13:02 koliron: never said it was bad
2017-11-25 13:02 koliron: just asking
2017-11-25 13:02 koliron: :D
2017-11-25 13:03 Benny-: owo
2017-11-25 13:04 koliron: 04:54:726 (3,1,2) - noticed that this was the same as 04:57:469 (1,2,3) - , what about make these last ones like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9620909
2017-11-25 13:04 koliron: since its also repeated before
2017-11-25 13:04 koliron: let me find it
2017-11-25 13:04 koliron: 05:02:954 (7,1,2) -
2017-11-25 13:06 Benny-: changed it
2017-11-25 13:06 koliron: good!
2017-11-25 13:07 koliron: 05:14:097 (5,6,1) - mmmh i think you could add a dash or hyper to 1, its a normal movement and feels pretty weird imo
2017-11-25 13:09 koliron: 05:45:126 (2) - loved this one
2017-11-25 13:10 Benny-: owo
2017-11-25 13:10 Benny-: doesn't do that much but gives a little effect for the guitar
2017-11-25 13:10 Benny-: fixed the hyper though
2017-11-25 13:10 koliron: mmmh
2017-11-25 13:10 koliron: 06:40:669 (1,2) - and here? same reason
2017-11-25 13:11 koliron: idk if its because i just woke up or its actually weird
2017-11-25 13:11 koliron: test it
2017-11-25 13:11 Benny-: normal antiflow
2017-11-25 13:11 Benny-: not really hard owo
2017-11-25 13:12 koliron: |ok then
2017-11-25 13:12 Benny-: you can even hit it with standstill on the triplet
2017-11-25 13:13 koliron: 06:50:954 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - 06:53:011 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - its fine if you really like it, but personally i think you could make different mvements here
2017-11-25 13:13 koliron: i did it in augoeides and it was so much criticized
2017-11-25 13:13 koliron: im suggestion this more like the rest than for me
2017-11-25 13:13 koliron: for*
2017-11-25 13:14 koliron: they are so many left right in a row
2017-11-25 13:14 koliron: :S
2017-11-25 13:14 koliron: there* lol
2017-11-25 13:14 Benny-: no one has criticized it so far owo
2017-11-25 13:14 Benny-: only hareimu who made me make them more spaced lol
2017-11-25 13:15 koliron: and noone did it in the thread of augoeides, because the people who dont like that doesnt mod
2017-11-25 13:15 koliron: wait
2017-11-25 13:15 Benny-: that's too bad for them!!!!!!
2017-11-25 13:15 Benny-: they don't know shit about mapping
2017-11-25 13:15 Benny-: i can justify that with it's the gimmick of the map
2017-11-25 13:16 Benny-: it's used throughout and this is the finale
2017-11-25 13:16 koliron: 06:51:640 (1,2,3,4) - what about change this to something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9621008 this
2017-11-25 13:16 koliron: well, they dont know about mapping
2017-11-25 13:16 koliron: but they are who plays it so, i think you should take in care their opinions as well
2017-11-25 13:16 Benny-: 01:32:270 (4,1,2,3,4) - same as here
2017-11-25 13:17 Benny-: i dont like it
2017-11-25 13:17 koliron: aaaa
2017-11-25 13:17 Benny-: i only did it in the first one so it gradually gets hard


Pretty clear map tbh
Hareimu
it has been too long since this post was made
Topic Starter
Benita
im stupid
F D Flourite
ur stupid x)

will mod later. now I'm tired

[Verethregna]
  1. 00:46:841 (4,1) - better be a HDash
  2. 00:11:270 - maybe do some movement on this sound?
  3. 00:37:241 (4) - turn into a 1/1 slider+circle for the vocal at 00:37:755 - ?
  4. 00:53:870 (1) - 1/2 reverse slider or something? even if you're following vocal, drum at 00:54:041 - can be taken care of at the same time
  5. 01:05:012 (1,2,3,4) - the 1.1x distance is for what? I only felt harsh to walk after the HDash, but no sounds there are really notable.
  6. 01:33:812 (5) - NC
Ascendance
FDF doesn’t seem like they’ll finish their mod so I’ll take over from here, placeholder
Topic Starter
Benita

F D Flourite wrote:

ur stupid x)

will mod later. now I'm tired

[Verethregna]
  1. 00:46:841 (4,1) - better be a HDash sure
  2. 00:11:270 - maybe do some movement on this sound? don't see the point, nothing distinct to emphasise here
  3. 00:37:241 (4) - turn into a 1/1 slider+circle for the vocal at 00:37:755 - ? ok
  4. 00:53:870 (1) - 1/2 reverse slider or something? even if you're following vocal, drum at 00:54:041 - can be taken care of at the same time ok
  5. 01:05:012 (1,2,3,4) - the 1.1x distance is for what? I only felt harsh to walk after the HDash, but no sounds there are really notable. reduced a tad
  6. 01:33:812 (5) - NC I've not nc'd any of the other patterns like this
applying what you got so far, if you still wanna mod it, just continue in a new post :3
Ascendance
bubbled!

2018-03-15 15:31 Ascendance: u wanna voice or just do irc
2018-03-15 15:31 Benny-: whatever works
2018-03-15 15:32 Ascendance: i dont giv a fuk
2018-03-15 15:32 Ascendance: the map is pretty much fine
2018-03-15 15:32 Benny-: nice
2018-03-15 15:32 Ascendance: so here we go then
2018-03-15 15:32 Ascendance: small stuff
2018-03-15 15:32 Benny-: well i should probably apply what fdf has so far (?)
2018-03-15 15:32 Benny-: in her
2018-03-15 15:33 Benny-: placeholder mod
2018-03-15 15:33 Benny-: lol
2018-03-15 15:33 Ascendance: ya do that
2018-03-15 15:34 Ascendance: then poke
2018-03-15 15:34 Benny-: well
2018-03-15 15:34 Benny-: okay
2018-03-15 15:37 Ascendance: duel alternatives not even on the sheet
2018-03-15 15:48 Benny-: ok
2018-03-15 15:48 Benny-: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/6539418
2018-03-15 15:49 Ascendance: ok ready
2018-03-15 15:49 Benny-: ready
2018-03-15 15:49 Ascendance: 00:21:298 (2,3,4) - can u make this fully horizontal
2018-03-15 15:49 Ascendance: it's pretty shallow so the catcher has to slow down a lot after a faster pace
2018-03-15 15:49 Benny-: wht sacomg os ficp
2018-03-15 15:49 Benny-: what spacing
2018-03-15 15:49 Benny-: is fully horisontal
2018-03-15 15:50 Ascendance: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10478601 with 1.06x between them
2018-03-15 15:51 Benny-: done
2018-03-15 15:52 Ascendance: mbomb 01:17:870 (3) - x:396 makes this less cramped here
2018-03-15 15:52 Benny-: sur
2018-03-15 15:52 Benny-: e
2018-03-15 15:52 Benny-: mbomb
2018-03-15 15:52 Ascendance: 01:20:612 (4,1) - should b an hdash
2018-03-15 15:54 Benny-: \doen
2018-03-15 15:54 Ascendance: 01:21:641 (2,3,4) - 1.06x
2018-03-15 15:54 Ascendance: 01:24:898 (5,6) - hdash
2018-03-15 15:54 Ascendance: well the hdash should actually be between 01:24:727 (4,5) -
2018-03-15 15:56 Benny-: ok all done
2018-03-15 15:56 Ascendance: 01:38:441 (3,4) - cross screen hyper in a calm section haha yes
2018-03-15 15:57 Benny-: oh
2018-03-15 15:58 Ascendance: oh.
2018-03-15 15:58 Benny-: well reduced i guess
2018-03-15 15:58 Ascendance: 02:27:640 (2) - x:214 feels really nice and not so cramped
2018-03-15 15:59 Benny-: ok
2018-03-15 15:59 Ascendance: mbomb 03:00:554 (1,2,3) - x:102
2018-03-15 15:59 Ascendance: distance is kinda far from previous object
2018-03-15 15:59 Benny-: ok done
2018-03-15 16:00 Ascendance: 03:02:869 (2) - x:212 yes
2018-03-15 16:00 Benny-: ok
2018-03-15 16:00 Ascendance: 03:04:497 (4,1) - copypaste sighted
2018-03-15 16:01 Benny-: ah yes
2018-03-15 16:01 Benny-: well
2018-03-15 16:01 Benny-: it is copy pasted
2018-03-15 16:01 Benny-: but i changed some stuff up
2018-03-15 16:01 Ascendance: dw lol
2018-03-15 16:01 Benny-: so it isn't that obvious
2018-03-15 16:01 Ascendance: just do the same fix
2018-03-15 16:01 Benny-: xd
2018-03-15 16:01 Ascendance: same with 03:05:526 (2,3,4) -
2018-03-15 16:02 Benny-: done
2018-03-15 16:02 Benny-: xd
2018-03-15 16:02 Ascendance: 03:28:497 (8,1,2,3,4) - this feels really poopy
2018-03-15 16:02 Ascendance: ctrl h 03:28:669 (1,2,3,4) - and move to x418 maybe
2018-03-15 16:02 Benny-: mbomb
2018-03-15 16:03 Ascendance: no mbomb therew
2018-03-15 16:03 Benny-: inspired by that one antiflow pattern in confliguration
2018-03-15 16:03 Benny-: no i mean
2018-03-15 16:03 Benny-: read above
2018-03-15 16:03 Benny-: LUL
2018-03-15 16:03 Ascendance: oh
2018-03-15 16:03 Ascendance: cancer
2018-03-15 16:03 Benny-: i don't mind changing it but
2018-03-15 16:03 Benny-: it's like
2018-03-15 16:03 Benny-: 03:28:754 (2) - siren sound thing is here
2018-03-15 16:04 Ascendance: it just kinda plays weird since it throws the catcher at a sharp angle left
2018-03-15 16:05 Ascendance: 04:30:726 (2,3) - x:153
2018-03-15 16:05 Ascendance: less squished
2018-03-15 16:05 Benny-: yeah
2018-03-15 16:06 Ascendance: 04:50:354 (2) - please move this to 1/2 lol
2018-03-15 16:06 Benny-: oops
2018-03-15 16:06 Benny-: lol
2018-03-15 16:06 Ascendance: and obviously move it away from the tail also
2018-03-15 16:07 Benny-: donee
2018-03-15 16:07 Benny-: lul
2018-03-15 16:08 Ascendance: first time you haven't emphasized this sound 05:37:240 -
2018-03-15 16:08 Ascendance: kinda bad to have it on a slidertail
2018-03-15 16:09 Ascendance: 05:56:097 (3,4,5) - anime
2018-03-15 16:12 Benny-: i reworked the patterns around 05:37:240 -
2018-03-15 16:12 Ascendance: owok
2018-03-15 16:13 Benny-: also anime fixwd
2018-03-15 16:13 Ascendance: 05:58:154 (1,1) - seems like sucha nice place 4 a stream
2018-03-15 16:15 Benny-: lol did i dc
2018-03-15 16:16 Ascendance: idk
2018-03-15 16:16 Ascendance: did u get my last point
2018-03-15 16:16 Benny-: yes
2018-03-15 16:16 Ascendance: did u fix it
2018-03-15 16:16 Benny-: 05:58:154 (1,1) - if this was ur last point
2018-03-15 16:16 Benny-: then yes
2018-03-15 16:17 Ascendance: the stream 1
2018-03-15 16:17 Benny-: yes
2018-03-15 16:17 Benny-: fixed it
2018-03-15 16:18 Ascendance: update
2018-03-15 16:18 Benny-: updatrd
Topic Starter
Benita
owob
BoberOfDarkness
UWU
_handholding
Ascendance
circlejerk....
salchow
Oh god
F D Flourite
[Continue]
  1. Offset +6ms for both red lines. Pop the bubble due to timing issue. Note that the following suggestions were made before timing change.
  2. I still think that AR9.5 is high for such a map. BPM is below 180, random 1/2 jumps and antiflows are everywhere, while 1/4 patterns are not complex. Most breaks by me are in 1/2 sections. AR9.3 would probably fit it better.
  3. 01:47:527 (1,2) - can be slightly shorter on its distance because of the flow
  4. 02:40:840 (4,5) - can be a HDash?
  5. 02:49:926 (5,6,7,8,1) - not sure if the flow is made intentional, but I'd prefer at least a bit of curve at 02:50:097 (7,8) -
  6. 02:59:526 (3,1) - this jump seems pretty unnatural and random...
  7. 05:02:440 (4,5,6) - you may use equal distance (by increasing 05:02:440 (4,5) - ) instead of curve to express the build-up from 05:01:926 (1) - to 05:03:469 (1) -
  8. 06:43:926 (6,1) - Hmm, flow can be better? Now they're pretty much overlapped, but music at 06:44:097 - is obviously starting a new section, as your NC indicates. Something that makes more difference would help.


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Topic Starter
Benita

F D Flourite wrote:

[Continue]
  1. Offset +6ms for both red lines. Pop the bubble due to timing issue. Note that the following suggestions were made before timing change. oof, i increased it by 10.
  2. I still think that AR9.5 is high for such a map. BPM is below 180, random 1/2 jumps and antiflows are everywhere, while 1/4 patterns are not complex. Most breaks by me are in 1/2 sections. AR9.3 would probably fit it better. The song is quite streamy so I'd rather keep the ar, however, if other people think I should decrease it I don't mind.
  3. 01:47:527 (1,2) - can be slightly shorter on its distance because of the flo :x w its meant as a dash for the vocals actually, I'd rather keep it!
  4. 02:40:840 (4,5) - can be a HDash? would make it incosistent with other parts like 00:56:965 (2,3) - I wanna keep the hdashes at the finishers/vocals
  5. 02:49:926 (5,6,7,8,1) - not sure if the flow is made intentional, but I'd prefer at least a bit of curve at 02:50:097 (7,8) - fix, its no longer awkward to play
  6. 02:59:526 (3,1) - this jump seems pretty unnatural and random... no longer awks!
  7. 05:02:440 (4,5,6) - you may use equal distance (by increasing 05:02:440 (4,5) - ) instead of curve to express the build-up from 05:01:926 (1) - to 05:03:469 (1) - I'd rather increase the gradually increase of distance if that's ok ):
  8. 06:43:926 (6,1) - Hmm, flow can be better? Now they're pretty much overlapped, but music at 06:44:097 - is obviously starting a new section, as your NC indicates. Something that makes more difference would help. fixed up this part a bit!


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Thanks!!!

Edit: I meant I increased the offset by 6 which was what FDF suggested
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