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Critical_Star
Collab Vermillion Lv.15
From KK suggestiion:
- 00:48:058 (48058|2,48058|0,48155|2,48155|1,48252|3,48252|0) - suggestion > http://puu.sh/t1gTn/545320d527.jpg
- 01:07:343 - add one more note for piano? ok
- 01:31:207 (91207|2,91207|0,91207|3,91402|1,91597|2,91791|3) - this is weird compared to 01:30:428 (90428|3,90720|0,91012|2,91109|1) - ok
- 01:38:804 (98804|0,98869|1,98934|2,98999|3) - 1/8? ok
- 01:45:233 (105233|1,105233|0,105330|3,105330|0,105428|1,105428|3,105525|0,105525|2,105622|1,105622|2,105720|0,105720|3,105817|1,105817|3,105915|0,105915|2) - how about this? > http://puu.sh/t1hk6/905dbc7f17.jpg

EDIT: updated FC part
Aruel
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Akasha-
BlackY - Paradission [OsuMania modding]


[Generals]
- BPM: Okay
- Offset: Okay
- AiMod: Okay
- Tags: Okay
- BG: Okay
- Kiai: Okay
- Metadata: Okay
- Folder’s problem: None
- Hitsound: Okay
- Timing: Okay
- Other: Okay

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Topic Starter
Critical_Star

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

BlackY - Paradission [OsuMania modding]


[Generals]
- BPM: Okay
- Offset: Okay
- AiMod: Okay
- Tags: Okay
- BG: Okay
- Kiai: Okay
- Metadata: Okay
- Folder’s problem: None
- Hitsound: Okay
- Timing: Okay
- Other: Okay

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thanks~ :) :) :)
Sandalphon
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Aruel

YaHao wrote:

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Topic Starter
Critical_Star
:)

mod from YaHoo

@chicken
00:47:960 (47960|0,48058|0,48155|2,48252|3) -
00:48:155 (48155|2,48252|3) - those two should be in jack instead of 00:48:058 (48058|2,48155|2) -
00:48:155 (48155|2,48252|3) - those two should be in jack instead of 00:48:058 (48058|2,48155|2) -
01:45:330 (105330|3,105428|3,105525|2,105622|2,105720|3,105817|3) - this still
01:45:622 (105622|2,105720|0) - CTRL+J should fix

@spy
01:36:661 (96661|3,96954|2,97246|2,97343|3,97441|1,97635|2,97830|3,98025|2,98220|3) - really unbalance rearranged
Aruel

Critical_Star wrote:

:)

mod from YaHoo

@chicken
00:47:960 (47960|0,48058|0,48155|2,48252|3) -
00:48:155 (48155|2,48252|3) - those two should be in jack instead of 00:48:058 (48058|2,48155|2) -
00:48:155 (48155|2,48252|3) - those two should be in jack instead of 00:48:058 (48058|2,48155|2) -
01:45:330 (105330|3,105428|3,105525|2,105622|2,105720|3,105817|3) - this still - x
01:45:622 (105622|2,105720|0) - CTRL+J should fix - Above and this one, I want to keep because I made jumphand stream
Thanks for mod 'w'

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... _Lv.15.osu
Sandalphon
IRC with cs and nothing found
Let's go .M.
Topic Starter
Critical_Star
irc with YaHao
22:20 YaHao: ok here i am
22:20 YaHao: just realise collab diff, how to irc
22:21 Critical_Star: LOL
22:21 Critical_Star: now u know
22:21 Critical_Star: but i can ask direct to them for your mod
22:22 YaHao: whatever, lets irc first
22:22 YaHao: send me the map via qq can?
22:22 Critical_Star: ok
22:26 Critical_Star: uplopading
22:28 Critical_Star: sent le
22:30 *YaHao is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1128525 BlackY - Paradission]
22:31 YaHao: widescreen support in normal
22:31 Critical_Star: metadata should be good
22:31 Critical_Star: closed for all
22:33 YaHao: 00:11:532 (11532|0,11532|1,11824|2,11824|1,12116|2,12116|3,12311|1,12311|2,12506|1,12506|0) - change this part so the player can notice the snaps are changing
22:33 YaHao: 00:12:116 (12116|3,12116|2,12311|2,12311|1,12506|0,12506|1) -
22:33 YaHao: 1/2 trill will work
22:34 Critical_Star: http://puu.sh/t7ECa/5a4a425086.png
22:35 YaHao: cool
22:35 YaHao: 00:59:259 - LN?
22:36 YaHao: 01:02:765 - LN as well? then move this 01:03:739 (63739|1) - to 4th col, make it jack with 01:03:934 (63934|3) - to emphasize the snare drum
22:36 Critical_Star: think i will leave it as 1/1 layering since i catch other sound here
22:36 Critical_Star: hmm
22:37 Critical_Star: 01:02:376 (62376|2) - think i change this as LN then
22:37 YaHao: done
22:37 Critical_Star: http://puu.sh/t7EHp/07c102e261.png
22:39 *YaHao is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1128525 BlackY - Paradission [CS vs. Spy.R's Orange Lv.9]]
22:40 Critical_Star: 'w'
22:41 YaHao: 00:46:597 (46597|3) - extend this till00:46:986 - ?
22:41 YaHao: same length with 00:46:012 (46012|3) -
22:42 Critical_Star: yep
22:43 YaHao: 00:46:012 (46012|3) - really unbalance
22:44 Critical_Star: i thought they have the same sound here
22:44 Critical_Star: 00:46:012 (46012|3,46597|3) -
22:44 YaHao: i copy the wrong timing
22:44 YaHao: lmao
22:44 Critical_Star: :^
22:45 YaHao: 01:36:661 (96661|3,96954|2,97246|2,97343|3,97441|1,97635|2,97830|3,98025|2,98220|3) -
22:45 YaHao: this i mean
22:46 *YaHao is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1128526 BlackY - Paradission [WhiteCS vs. BlackFC Vermilion Lv.15]]
22:46 Critical_Star: ok i let him know
22:49 YaHao: 00:47:960 (47960|0,48058|0,48155|2,48252|3) -
22:49 YaHao: 00:48:155 (48155|2,48252|3) - those two should be in jack instead of 00:48:058 (48058|2,48155|2) -
22:50 YaHao: 00:48:252 (48252|0,48350|0) - and not this
22:51 Critical_Star: noted
22:52 YaHao: 01:45:330 (105330|3,105428|3,105525|2,105622|2,105720|3,105817|3) - this still
22:53 YaHao: 01:45:622 (105622|2,105720|0) - CTRL+J should fix
22:53 YaHao: all good

thanks! 'W'
Feerum
Greetings and grats on qualify!

So, i just have a little objection about the Tags.
I can see you got most of the Tags probably from this wiki side.

I think following Tags should not be in the Beatmap:

HAPPY☆LUCKY☆YEAPPY
New York EVOLVED
ULTRA HAPPY MEGAMIX
VISION
超越してしまった彼女と其を生み落した理由
This are complete different songs and most, when not all, are by different artists. The only thing that these song's share is a vocal sample (according to the wiki website)

Have you any other reason why you have these tags? When yes, please explain it to me!
Topic Starter
Critical_Star

Feerum wrote:

Greetings and grats on qualify!

So, i just have a little objection about the Tags.
I can see you got most of the Tags probably from this wiki side.

I think following Tags should not be in the Beatmap:

HAPPY☆LUCKY☆YEAPPY
New York EVOLVED
ULTRA HAPPY MEGAMIX
VISION
超越してしまった彼女と其を生み落した理由
This are complete different songs and most, when not all, are by different artists. The only thing that these song's share is a vocal sample (according to the wiki website)

Have you any other reason why you have these tags? When yes, please explain it to me!
sorry this is my mistake.. I overlooked it, can you help me to fix the tag :o
sorry for the trouble :(
PANDAAAAAAAA
BN 常常查看 BN 的图。1-2 月他们会 rank 他们的图。just opinion, ok you can hate me now.
Akasha-
Let's have a cup of tea
Feerum
Disqualified to fix the Tag mistake.
As soon it's fixed i will re-qualify it directly for you!
Topic Starter
Critical_Star
fixed :)
Feerum
Tags are fixed, here's the heart!
Akasha-
new world record

also you forgot to add KONAMI you can kill me now
Aruel

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

new world record

also you forgot to add KONAMI you can kill me now
Akasha-
Valentrixe
hi

[WhiteCS vs. BlackFC Vermillion Lv.15]
  1. 00:02:376 (2376|1,2376|0) - i don't get it, what're you trying to follow? the synth? the next double should be on 00:02:668 - then, since 00:02:571 - contain no synth, only bass (if i'm right), and you need to add double in 00:02:473 - if you actually following the bass. choose one of them
  2. 00:01:986 (1986|3) - ??? what's this? you skipped all the same sound in 00:08:220 - , you can just use single note to follow the main synth like 00:02:084 (2084|1,2181|2,2278|3,2863|2,2960|1,3058|0) - , and ignoring the idkwhatitscalled in 00:01:986 (1986|3)
  3. 00:02:765 (2765|3) - if you do agree with ^ , then the only reason to add this note is to following the lower synth, which you're not following in 00:02:668 - , so better delete this note, otherwise, add note in every blue line in this section
  4. 00:03:155 - i would be more appreciate if you copy the exact pattern in 00:01:598 - since the melody is actually same. the music itself is repetitive in this part
  5. 00:04:226 (4226|1) - inconsistent with previous stanza
  6. 00:07:148 (7148|1,7343|0) - what are these notes is stand for? ugh
  7. 00:10:265 (10265|1,10558|0) - no significant change in the music but why did you make it different with previous stanza?

asdfasdfasdf take a quick look on the rest of the map and i found a lot of errors
00:33:934 (33934|1,34129|1,34324|1,34519|1,34713|1,34908|1,35103|1,35298|1,35687|1,35882|1,36077|1,36272|1,36467|1,36661|1,36856|1,37051|1) - this anchor in example,
00:35:687 (35687|1,35785|2,35882|1,35882|3,35980|2,36077|1) - these have different melody with 00:36:467 (36467|1,36564|2,36661|1,36661|3,36759|2,36856|1) - but why they have the same pattern?

and why no hold in 00:42:116 - ?

.. 00:46:597 (46597|3) - should be end at 00:47:376

01:13:285 (73285|0,73285|2,73285|3) - looks like randomly placed triple for me
asfasdfsdf bad stream
i like the jack idea to follow the main synth tho, but this stream need more consistency check

in fact, this diff DOES need more consistency check --
Lirai
>:(
Topic Starter
Critical_Star

Valentrixe wrote:

hi

[WhiteCS vs. BlackFC Vermillion Lv.15] i am sad u cross me out :<
  1. 00:02:376 (2376|1,2376|0) - i don't get it, what're you trying to follow? the synth? the next double should be on 00:02:668 - then, since 00:02:571 - contain no synth, only bass (if i'm right), and you need to add double in 00:02:473 - if you actually following the bass. choose one of them
  2. 00:01:986 (1986|3) - ??? what's this? you skipped all the same sound in 00:08:220 - , you can just use single note to follow the main synth like 00:02:084 (2084|1,2181|2,2278|3,2863|2,2960|1,3058|0) - , and ignoring the idkwhatitscalled in 00:01:986 (1986|3)
  3. 00:02:765 (2765|3) - if you do agree with ^ , then the only reason to add this note is to following the lower synth, which you're not following in 00:02:668 - , so better delete this note, otherwise, add note in every blue line in this section
  4. 00:03:155 - i would be more appreciate if you copy the exact pattern in 00:01:598 - since the melody is actually same. the music itself is repetitive in this part
  5. 00:04:226 (4226|1) - inconsistent with previous stanza
  6. 00:07:148 (7148|1,7343|0) - what are these notes is stand for? ugh
  7. 00:10:265 (10265|1,10558|0) - no significant change in the music but why did you make it different with previous stanza?

asdfasdfasdf take a quick look on the rest of the map and i found a lot of errors
00:33:934 (33934|1,34129|1,34324|1,34519|1,34713|1,34908|1,35103|1,35298|1,35687|1,35882|1,36077|1,36272|1,36467|1,36661|1,36856|1,37051|1) - this anchor in example, does it really feel hard to play? is just a common stream with LN here so i cant really avoid that
00:35:687 (35687|1,35785|2,35882|1,35882|3,35980|2,36077|1) - these have different melody with 00:36:467 (36467|1,36564|2,36661|1,36661|3,36759|2,36856|1) - but why they have the same pattern? i know but i choose a balance snare stream here instead of catching the melody, this shouldnt be a big problem

and why no hold in 00:42:116 - ? i am emphasizing 00:42:506 (42506|0,42506|1,42603|2,42603|3,42798|2,42798|1,42993|1,42993|0,43187|0,43187|1) - this melody with double here, so i didnt use any LN here

.. 00:46:597 (46597|3) - should be end at 00:47:376 there is another long sound here u can heard till 00:47:571 -

01:13:285 (73285|0,73285|2,73285|3) - looks like randomly placed triple for me it is main melody + kick here u can see i used triple at 01:14:843 - 01:16:402 -
asfasdfsdf bad stream i am really sorry if this stream plays bad for you, at least it play pretty nice for me.
i like the jack idea to follow the main synth tho, but this stream need more consistency check

in fact, this diff DOES need more consistency check -- maybe it have a different note usage at some part since this is a collab diff, where we might used different way to map here
to be honest i can't really find if there is any wrong with it.
Aruel

Valentrixe wrote:

hi

[WhiteCS vs. BlackFC Vermillion Lv.15]
  1. 00:02:376 (2376|1,2376|0) - i don't get it, what're you trying to follow? the synth? the next double should be on 00:02:668 - then, since 00:02:571 -contain no synth, only bass (if i'm right), and you need to add double in 00:02:473 - if you actually following the bass. choose one of them - I didn't follow drum, I followed main piano and there's definitely has a sound that I followed
  2. 00:01:986 (1986|3) - ??? what's this? you skipped all the same sound in 00:08:220 - , you can just use single note to follow the main synth like 00:02:084 (2084|1,2181|2,2278|3,2863|2,2960|1,3058|0) - , and ignoring the idkwhatitscalled in 00:01:986 (1986|3) - Seems you never read what I intended, I mainly use 2 notes which has just piano, I never 2 note'd on drum in this part as you can see.
  3. 00:02:765 (2765|3) - if you do agree with ^ , then the only reason to add this note is to following the lower synth, which you're not following in 00:02:668 - , so better delete this note, otherwise, add note in every blue line in this section - I didn't agree with mod on above and there's just a synth.
  4. 00:03:155 - i would be more appreciate if you copy the exact pattern in 00:01:598 - since the melody is actually same. the music itself is repetitive in this part - For hand balance and it will be boring if I just use same pattern on above too.
  5. 00:04:226 (4226|1) - inconsistent with previous stanza 00:02:668 - If you mean here, they are liternally different. 00:04:226 (4226|1) -This part has more strong syhtn than 00:04:226 (4226|1) - here. In my personal opinion, even I could feel the difference while playing
  6. 00:07:148 (7148|1,7343|0) - what are these notes is stand for? ugh Should I explain about it? even it isn't ghost note and unreasonable notes?
  7. 00:10:265 (10265|1,10558|0) - no significant change in the music but why did you make it different with previous stanza? - I feel the drum is getting more stronger from 00:10:168 - here.

asdfasdfasdf take a quick look on the rest of the map and i found a lot of errors
00:33:934 (33934|1,34129|1,34324|1,34519|1,34713|1,34908|1,35103|1,35298|1,35687|1,35882|1,36077|1,36272|1,36467|1,36661|1,36856|1,37051|1) - this anchor in example, - I really have no idea why this is an error. Just heavy pattern is an error? Look, there's loooong LN and we have only 3 columns and wants to emphasis the kick and synth both. So I thought and thought again and made this pattern and I ever didn't feel this pattern is awkward and uncomfortable or unbalanced or etc.
00:35:687 (35687|1,35785|2,35882|1,35882|3,35980|2,36077|1) - these have different melody with 00:36:467 (36467|1,36564|2,36661|1,36661|3,36759|2,36856|1) - but why they have the same pattern? I have no idea what I should reply on this mod. I do think that it won't be a problem. No issue on playable and nothing awkwardness and unrankable issues. This is just unreasonable.

and why no hold in 00:42:116 - ? - This one is not my part so I'll leave it to CS

.. 00:46:597 (46597|3) - should be end at 00:47:376 There's sound like dubstep which finishs on 00:47:571 - here with strong bass.

01:13:285 (73285|0,73285|2,73285|3) - looks like randomly placed triple for me - This is also not my parts but I guess CS didn't want to make jack with triple+double. As you can see, when there are many doubles, CS didn't used triple but when there are not many doubles, CS used triple, this is my guessing.

asfasdfsdf bad stream

i like the jack idea to follow the main synth tho, but this stream need more consistency check

in fact, this diff DOES need more consistency check --
First, you MUST not decide that map is bad or not with only your playability.
Second, inconsistency is due to of this map is collab. CS and I have definitely different style and I even think that is the charming point of collab (Can feel which part made by who or who)

I think you should consider what mapper intended before you do a mod.
Arzenvald

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

Valentrixe

Fresh Chicken wrote:

First, you MUST not decide that map is bad or not with only your playability. | i didn't judged it by its playability, i judged it by its consistency
Second, inconsistency is due to of this map is collab. CS and I have definitely different style and I even think that is the charming point of collab (Can feel which part made by who or who) | and yeah when i talking about consistency i didn't compare your part with cs part, i'm talking about inconsistecy in your own part

I think you should consider what mapper intended before you do a mod.
also i find it kinda funny when you said you didn't feel any unbalanced issue in the pattern when the pattern need to press 8 times 1/2 notes in the same lane twice

ah well sorry for bothering anyway, thanks for the reply tho
Sandalphon
kk kys smh
Another Lie
CS didn't notice me when get bubbled T_T
#I'm sad here :(
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