wth is that wip mapset, holy.
Anyway, for those interested, there was a public lesson in #modhelp on this map, so if you want to give it a look, here it is (even if it's not much anyway):
Anyway, for those interested, there was a public lesson in #modhelp on this map, so if you want to give it a look, here it is (even if it's not much anyway):
logs mixed with #memehelp memes
21:53 WhytFng: i had a timing request
21:53 Zaphkael: ok zev
21:53 Magicamp: this WHOLE time what diff where yall talking about???
21:53 Zhuriel: i doubt it's more ridiculous than arithmophobia
21:53 WhytFng: you sure
21:53 Zaphkael: who what first map
21:54 riktoi: my first map!!!!
21:54 Magicamp: i wish there was a symbol of slapping myself!
21:54 WhytFng: there is
21:54 WhytFng: but it's unicode
21:54 Magicamp: ?
21:54 Arphimigon: FIRST MAP WHERE?
21:55 *riktoi is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1098659 you - Hold Angel]
21:55 WhytFng: Magicamp: forget it
21:55 riktoi: here!!!
21:55 Arphimigon: MUST SEE
21:55 Arphimigon: wat
21:55 Arphimigon: baka!
21:55 Magicamp: Xd
21:55 riktoi: haha psyche
21:55 WhytFng: riktoi: ナイスメーム
21:55 Magicamp: lol
21:55 Arphimigon: BAKA.
21:55 riktoi: i can't read moon runes fuk
21:55 WhytFng: LOL
21:56 riktoi: the triangle is me i guess
21:56 WhytFng: the rest is 300AD ancient pagan curses
21:56 Magicamp: XD
21:56 Arphimigon: guyz did u kno
21:56 Arphimigon: ninja is ded?
21:56 WhytFng: you're doomed for all eternity and the life after that
21:56 Magicamp: ssoooooo
21:57 Magicamp: whats the bpm?? 8O
21:57 Magicamp: XD
21:57 Arphimigon: 69
21:57 WhytFng: 420
21:57 Magicamp: nice'
21:57 Magicamp: big black time!!!
21:57 WhytFng: Zhuriel: you still think it's not as bad
21:58 Zhuriel: it sounds about comparable
21:59 Stingy: arphi wyd
21:59 Arphimigon: Not much
21:59 Arphimigon: Relaxin, talking to gf, chattin'
21:59 Stingy: nice
21:59 WhytFng: ay bois
22:00 Arphimigon: The cool things
22:00 *WhytFng is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1121852 Scott Cawthon / Zir Tobbs - Exotic Butters (Trap Remix)]
22:00 WhytFng: gd me
22:01 _Meep_: exotic butter
22:01 _Meep_: mmmmmmm
22:01 Arphimigon: Exotic Butters!
22:01 WhytFng: the most exotic of butters
22:01 Zaphkael: guys how do i know if a song is in 1/3?
22:02 WhytFng: listen to kicks
22:02 Arphimigon: listen to the MUSIC
22:02 WhytFng: or cymbals
22:02 Zaphkael: what are kicks?
22:02 Zaphkael: im srry im noob :c
22:02 *WhytFng kicks Zaphkael
22:02 WhytFng: those
22:02 Zaphkael: arphi shut up ur blowin mi cover
22:02 WhytFng: loud bass drum
22:02 Zaphkael: but
22:03 Zaphkael: uh
22:03 Arphimigon: ;-;
22:03 Zaphkael: can i just use 1/3 if i want to?
22:03 WhytFng: if you're trying to gnome i'll just kick you again and no
22:03 Zaphkael: i want ez triangles
22:04 Arphimigon: ye use to make triangeel then chang tu 1/2 aftr
22:04 Zaphkael: what do you mean with gnome lol
22:04 Zaphkael: why change again lol, that changes ur snaps again
22:04 Zaphkael: noob
22:05 _Meep_: zaph,can u testplay
22:05 Zaphkael: LOLno im in bed rn
22:05 _Meep_: ;-;
22:05 _Meep_: kk
22:05 Arphimigon: Hi bed
22:05 Zaphkael: srry
22:05 Arphimigon: I'm Chronic Masturbation
22:06 Zhuriel: WhytFng: listened to the whole thing, pretty interesting rhythmically but seemed a bit lacking in structure
22:06 WhytFng: hi i have a gf k
22:06 Arphimigon: Same
22:06 WhytFng: Arphimigon: you contradict urself :^)
22:06 Arphimigon: tbH I am grill sometimes (^:
22:06 Arphimigon: Not really
22:06 Arphimigon: You can have both
22:06 HighTec: I agree!
22:07 Arphimigon: If used well, it can even be a helpful tool
22:07 WhytFng: Zhuriel: i don't wanna time it save me
22:07 HighTec: being a bitch is fun
22:07 Shiguri: yes
22:07 Nao Tomori: hightec bubble my map
22:07 WhytFng: i see those on #osu all the time
22:07 Zaphkael: arphi fy
22:07 HighTec: sory i failed last bn test xd
22:07 Nao Tomori: o rip
22:07 Arphimigon: Ye fuk me :^)
22:08 zev: i'm being quiet for zaph
22:08 HighTec: arphi i'd do u every day <3
22:08 zev: czu he said shut up
22:08 Zhuriel: WhytFng: check out arithmophobia by animals as leaders, i timed that
22:08 Arphimigon: D:
22:08 Arphimigon: I'd do me too! C:
22:08 HighTec: C:
22:08 Zaphkael: zev u can speqk as long as its no memz or hl's ok
22:08 Zhuriel: and a few other fun time signature related things
22:08 zev: okidoki
22:08 Magicamp: oh no
22:08 Cheesecake: hello
22:08 Zaphkael: corrections: i do me!
22:08 *Zaphkael run
22:08 _Meep_: i do me too
22:08 Magicamp: changing my offset moved everything??
22:09 *_Meep_ runs
22:09 zev: arphi squeeze duck
22:09 Arphimigon: Already am
22:09 Zaphkael: i dunno magicamp
22:09 Zaphkael: im new
22:09 Zaphkael: i wish i got better at mapping tbh
22:09 Magicamp: isnt there a way to subtract a number for your timing points?
22:10 MrSergio: select them all
22:10 Arphimigon: Mapping is only worth it if you pick up c00l mappin'
22:10 zev: map more
22:10 zev: only way
22:10 [XV]: good evening mrSergio
22:10 Nao Tomori: thts 2 hard
22:10 Magicamp: but then how do you subtract
22:10 MrSergio: http://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/4R8tdXpn
22:10 MrSergio: -/+ <insert number>
22:10 MrSergio: good evening, #modhelp
22:10 Magicamp: ahhhhh
22:10 WhytFng: sergio is that XP
22:11 Magicamp: nive
22:11 MrSergio: no, it's Win7 without graphics
22:11 _Meep_: sergio
22:11 Magicamp: nice
22:11 _Meep_: hi
22:11 MrSergio: hi
22:11 WhytFng: cool cool
22:11 _Meep_: can u test my map ;w;
22:11 MrSergio: link
22:11 Magicamp: lol
22:11 *_Meep_ is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1123815 Aqours - Daisuki Dattara Daijoubu!]
22:11 _Meep_: expert plez <3
22:11 WhytFng: _Meep_ i'm not good enough confirmed
22:12 _Meep_: lol
22:12 MrSergio: here we go
22:12 _Meep_: xhill -.-
22:12 _Meep_: chill*
22:12 HighTec: lolis
22:12 Magicamp: i guess i will move them by the differance between 3068 my previous offset by 171 my current?
22:12 Magicamp: lol
22:12 Nao Tomori: what are you trying to do now
22:13 Magicamp: move my timing points
22:13 WhytFng: i have like 30 songs timed and unmapped
22:13 WhytFng: i'm so lazy
22:14 MrSergio: offset is late
22:14 Magicamp: so whyfng should i just start over??
22:14 _Meep_: is it shit
22:14 Magicamp: just delete it?
22:14 WhytFng: rip my username
22:14 _Meep_: MY GOD THE OFFSET IS ALWAYS WRONG
22:14 WhytFng: don't give up, keep trying
22:14 WhytFng: if you can't do it request for timing
22:14 Magicamp: drink some bleach
22:14 Nao Tomori: offset +4 or so
22:15 Nao Tomori: assuming sergio acc is good
22:15 Magicamp: and then just delete it
22:15 WhytFng: offest is good +/- about 300
22:15 Magicamp: thats what i should do?
22:15 MrSergio: umh...
22:15 WhytFng: usually
22:15 MrSergio: nvm, it's good
22:15 _Meep_: rip
22:15 _Meep_: i disconnected
22:15 _Meep_: was there any problems sergio?
22:15 MrSergio: nope
22:15 _Meep_: Any comments/complaints? ;o
22:15 MrSergio: I mean, not with timing
22:15 _Meep_: Yea
22:16 _Meep_: I can see its not related to timing
22:16 MrSergio: compains: combo colors please
22:16 _Meep_: XD
22:16 _Meep_: Anything that I could improve? -.-
22:16 MrSergio: how to typo
22:16 -Nitrous: rip
22:16 _Meep_: Oh yea LOL
22:16 MrSergio: don't you have a mentor? LOL
22:16 _Meep_: i didn't add those
22:16 *_Meep_ runs
22:16 WhytFng: chewed up
22:16 _Meep_: Ima just put 3 combo colors
22:16 _Meep_: color of chika you and riko
22:16 -Nitrous: hoyl
22:16 Nao Tomori: xexxar mentor LUL
22:17 *-Nitrous faints
22:17 WhytFng: why not chica bonnie and foxy
22:17 -Nitrous: because screw FNAF
22:17 Yoshino--: are combo colors needed?
22:17 MrSergio: yes
22:17 _Meep_: there
22:17 MrSergio: because I say so
22:17 WhytFng: black black and black
22:17 -Nitrous: :O
22:17 _Meep_: sergio,anything else to complain abt
22:17 _Meep_: ;o
22:17 MrSergio: 00:05:887 (4,5) - rip movement
22:18 _Meep_: why D:
22:18 MrSergio: 00:03:887 (1,2,3,4,1) - structure can be improved. Can you maybe give it... something... idk, it just doesn't tell me anything
22:18 MrSergio: listen to vocals
22:18 _Meep_: Ok,will see what I can do o-o
22:18 MrSergio: 00:06:053 - strong beat wasted
22:18 Nao Tomori: 00:54:220 (2) - inb4 red tick trigger
22:19 _Meep_: trudat
22:19 MrSergio: and in general, spacing is not increasing, even tho vocal emphasis does
22:19 _Meep_: so much stuff i missed,omg -.-
22:19 MrSergio: 00:05:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - between these I mean
22:19 MrSergio: ^ it's the same as for 00:03:887 (1,2,3,4,1) -
22:20 MrSergio: I hope your mentor told you the golden rule of mapping: song is your supreme and overpowered lord
22:20 MrSergio: you do what the song asks for, not what you want to (in most cases)
22:20 -Nitrous: I'm learning so much even tho I have no mentor
22:21 Nao Tomori: unless ur mapping can do
22:21 MrSergio: 00:09:220 (5,1) - flow and emphasis are rip here too. Try: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6516835
22:21 Nao Tomori: then you do what you want
22:21 _Meep_: omfg
22:21 _Meep_: my connection
22:21 _Meep_: AAAAAAAAA
22:21 _Meep_: stupid SG internet fkin with me -.-
22:21 MrSergio: http://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/z8QcxaM3
22:21 _Meep_: rip
22:21 _Meep_: now i cant even open a osu link
22:22 -Nitrous: uhh _Meep_ how big is the set going to be?
22:22 MrSergio: we could move it to a PM, but I get teh feeling someone else might get something from this anyway
22:22 _Meep_: Its alr big enough
22:22 Daoski: im learning
22:22 MrSergio: 00:11:053 - 00:11:387 - don't waste them please
22:22 MrSergio: Meep ^
22:23 _Meep_: sliderart taimu
22:23 MrSergio: or at least, 00:11:387 - place a beat here, stacked on 00:11:553 (1) -
22:23 MrSergio: I mean, stacked on 00:11:720 (2) - , damn it
22:23 MrSergio: no, it's fine even with just that beat
22:23 MrSergio: but if you want the slider, make it. In that case it would be a waste to not click on 00:11:387 - tho
22:23 _Meep_: fixed
22:24 _Meep_: Hmm,if we need to click on 00:11:387 - ,I think a slider is rather off dead
22:24 MrSergio: 00:12:887 (4,5) - make sure that this jump is a bigger than 00:12:720 (3,4) -
22:24 _Meep_: oshit the triangle isn't perfect
22:24 Bluekrait: are there streams in advanced difficulties?
22:24 MrSergio: it's a matter of emphasis, listen to the song
22:24 MrSergio: no
22:24 Bluekrait: 150 bpm
22:24 MrSergio: still no
22:24 Bluekrait: triples?
22:25 MrSergio: Advanced =/= hard
22:25 MrSergio: use 1/4 snaps after sliders, but not more
22:25 Bluekrait: advanced is easier than hard right?
22:25 MrSergio: yes
22:25 pkhg: maybe 1/4 slider
22:25 xfraczynho: guys
22:25 Bluekrait: ok thanks
22:25 xfraczynho: can anyone help me with hitsounds?
22:25 WhytFng: can someone test a ~5* map for me, and tell me if what i have so far is too repetitive
22:25 _Meep_: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6516873
22:25 Nao Tomori: is it dnb
22:25 xfraczynho: i'll
22:25 xfraczynho: gimme a sec
22:25 _Meep_: looks horrible sergio XD will try to change
22:25 MrSergio: Meep, what did you do so far with your mentor?
22:25 Nao Tomori: whytfng
22:25 WhytFng: Nao Tomori: neuro dnb
22:26 Nao Tomori: it is
22:26 WhytFng: thanks love you
22:26 WhytFng: net opinion?
22:26 WhytFng: x*
22:26 MrSergio: just to have a clue as to what to bring up and what not
22:26 _Meep_: So far he taught me on aesthetics and equal spacing,though some parts don't have it due to mass editing XD
22:26 Nao Tomori: gimme
22:26 *WhytFng is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1123461 Sirma - Trigger (Computerartist Remix)]
22:26 Nao Tomori: triggered
22:26 xfraczynho: why people changes sample sounds every inherit point?
22:26 MrSergio: well, "equal spacing" is part of "spacing" so he should have taught you how it works in general
22:27 xfraczynho: is it neccesary for rank?
22:27 MrSergio: which is mainly the problem I see on this map
22:27 Nao Tomori: xexxar's idea of spacing is very "interesting"
22:27 Daoski: @fraczynho not really
22:27 Nao Tomori: whytfng what dif
22:27 _Meep_: mainly the problem
22:27 *_Meep_ cries
22:27 MrSergio: 00:15:220 (2,3,4,5,1) - better, try to analyze this one and apply the same concept to similar parts
22:27 MrSergio: although structure is weak
22:27 RlKU: Can anyone give me their opinion on the current state of a map im working on
22:27 *RlKU is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1124776 Mocki - Weekend (Jai Wolf Remix)]
22:27 MrSergio: (but it's better to fix one thing than having everything out of place)
22:28 xfraczynho: ik isn't
22:28 _Meep_: Ok,I think I see some of the problems
22:28 xfraczynho: so everyone keep changing to SC:1, SC:2 and i don't know why
22:28 MrSergio: 00:17:053 (5,1) - emphasis
22:28 MrSergio: da jumpu
22:28 _Meep_: notes aren't emphasized well enuf because they have different distances than what the song should be presented as
22:28 MrSergio: emphasis is created through "differences in spacing"
22:29 MrSergio: to give more emphasis to a certain beat you need to give less to the one before it
22:29 Fenza: vote trump 2016
22:29 _Meep_: Yea,which is,what I think my map lacks alot
22:29 _Meep_: Hmm,ok then
22:29 _Meep_: I'll rework the map tmrw,its getting late for me now
22:29 MrSergio: and since the basic concept of emphasis is, distance = emphasis, the more distance the better for emphasis
22:29 _Meep_: got it
22:29 MrSergio: 00:18:387 (3,4) - this is one of the few patterns working well with reversed emphasis\
22:30 MrSergio: due to the downwards movement (second type of emphasis, playfield)
22:30 MrSergio: (yes, playfiueld has an emphasis)
22:30 -Nitrous: omg 14+ SP already
22:30 MrSergio: with that in mind, try a Ctrl + G on 00:19:887 (1) -
22:30 Nao Tomori: Fenza: please
22:30 HML: vote trump 2016
22:30 Fenza: nao tomori please
22:30 Zaphkael: 14 sp pu lease thats nothing
22:30 Fenza: thanks
22:30 Fenza: a person that understands :^)
22:30 _Meep_: done
22:31 Nao Tomori: dont do this to us
22:31 -Nitrous: no I mean 14 sp filled with self-starring maps
22:31 MrSergio: 00:21:720 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - imo you should start from 00:22:053 - with that pattern of 1/2 half stacked notes
22:31 -Nitrous: please
22:31 Nao Tomori: i see you havent seen whirl's map
22:31 MrSergio: just a feel I get from the song tho, I can't explain this time
22:31 Zaphkael: dat moment when your map has 40+ sp and over half comes from mods on the set
22:31 _Meep_: so I should directly stack the first 2,3?
22:32 MrSergio: 00:24:387 (2,3) - enable stacking and check the mini spacing which comes out of this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6516925
22:32 MrSergio: that, or just simply change pattern
22:32 -Nitrous: I'm supposed to leave for school now but this mentoring seems interesting to read.
22:32 MrSergio: just don't make them similar to the other 2 groups of 1/2
22:32 -Nitrous: Also I'm playing SIF so school can wait :^)
22:32 Zaphkael: remap
22:32 _Meep_: Ima space the notes a bit
22:33 MrSergio: 00:25:220 (7) - x268 y116 ?
22:33 MrSergio: again emphasis on the next slider
22:33 MrSergio: 00:29:887 (2) - clicks are better, hence circles instead (just personal)
22:34 _Meep_: I'll leave it as a reverse slider
22:34 MrSergio: 00:30:720 (1,2,3) - your mentor taught you aesthetics, right? I guess he missed this stuff or he shoouold explain it again to you, since it's not that beautiful
22:34 _Meep_: Wanna go to pm,its getting a bit full here XD
22:34 MrSergio: nope
22:34 -Nitrous: rip
22:34 _Meep_: Ok then
22:34 MrSergio: I'm not gonna teach other 50 users, so I'll keep it here
22:34 Nao Tomori: gg
22:34 Arphimigon: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
22:34 Nao Tomori: i think only ugly about that is 1
22:34 *[-obee58-] is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1099380 Unknown Artist - Cory White House de Chou Taihen! [captin's Insane]] -Easy +DoubleTime
22:34 Arphimigon: Dont go spreading your subjective thoughts around
22:34 Nao Tomori: curved too much
22:34 Arphimigon: *leave*
22:34 _Meep_: Well no,this part was not here when he checked this map
22:34 _Meep_: but
22:34 MrSergio: 00:31:720 (3) - why not removing the slider node of 00:31:720 (3) - ?
22:34 _Meep_: I see what you mean
22:34 MrSergio: double link, rip
22:35 BestLeeSinged: do we need mentor mentors
22:35 MrSergio: who knows
22:35 Arphimigon: I wanna mentore mentors!
22:35 -Nitrous: woah
22:35 [-obee58-]: i cant even play this lOl rip me
22:35 -Nitrous: mentoring mentors
22:35 MrSergio: 00:35:220 (1,2) - swap NC?
22:35 -Nitrous: we're going to need mentors that mentor mentors then
22:35 Nao Tomori: and mentors to mentor mentor mentors
22:35 _Meep_: Oh yea,xr did tell me things about the slider shapes
22:35 -Nitrous: basically mentorception
22:36 MrSergio: 00:37:887 (1,2) - I guess it's consistent, although NCs usually go on strong beats
22:36 MrSergio: (swap NC)
22:36 Zaphkael: but dont those mentor mentors might need mentors?
22:36 Nao Tomori: 00:42:887 (2) - rip slider
22:36 MrSergio: 00:39:720 (3) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6516964?
22:37 MrSergio: and the ones filling the chat with useless stuff where should go, I wonder?
22:37 Zaphkael: mentorception lol
22:37 *Zaphkael hides
22:37 _Meep_: I didn't even notice that slider node
22:37 _Meep_: lol
22:37 MrSergio: I changed that in the screen
22:37 _Meep_: 00:42:887 (2) - I felt that the curve fit the song better
22:37 MrSergio: to make it more "pleasant"
22:37 _Meep_: Yea,I saw it
22:38 MrSergio: 00:37:220 (1,2) - rip emphasis
22:38 _Meep_: I wanted to group the clapping tgt
22:38 _Meep_: as in stack the notes
22:38 -Nitrous: welp gtg now
22:38 _Meep_: seeya
22:39 MrSergio: 00:44:053 (1,2,3) - a bit too... "sloppy" ? Try: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6516978
22:39 MrSergio: you're using lines... use them till the end
22:39 _Meep_: ;o
22:39 _Meep_: fixed
22:39 MrSergio: 00:45:720 - na 00:46:053 - ni 00:46:387 - mo
22:40 Fenza: why not do this in pms
22:40 Fenza: xd
22:40 Fenza: pm's
22:40 MrSergio: I stated my resons above
22:40 _Meep_: so,I should make 'mo' clickable as well?
22:40 MrSergio: those 3 beats should hold the same rhythm, hence the same 1/2 slider
22:40 MrSergio: yes, the last one can be kept a circle tho
22:40 MrSergio: since you need the pause for the next pattern
22:40 Fenza: i got shit for doing this in modhelp once
22:40 Fenza: that's why i asked
22:41 MrSergio: true, let's meme
22:41 Nao Tomori: let
22:41 Nao Tomori: gnome?
22:41 MrSergio: 00:48:387 (2,3) - following vocals here?
22:41 Fenza: what does that even mean
22:41 Arphimigon: I remember when mappin with logic was considered OP
22:41 Fenza: who needs logic
22:41 Arphimigon: Now it's the norm and every1 h8tes it
22:41 MrSergio: I'd rather have 3 into circles
22:42 _Meep_: yea
22:42 _Meep_: vocals
22:42 MrSergio: again, check what they say and how they say it
22:42 Fenza: heighteights it
22:42 Babo-ya: https://i.redd.it/cn33lk4bo7wx.png
22:42 _Meep_: kk
22:42 MrSergio: 00:49:887 (2) - this can be easily made 1/4 shorter, even in testplay it was a bit awkward
22:43 MrSergio: 00:51:720 (4) - check vocals again
22:43 Lassikko: Babo-ya: spicy memme
22:43 MrSergio: 00:54:053 (1,2,3,4) - I had a hard time reading these during testplay, maybe make them more spaced a little?
22:43 _Meep_: okiee,spacin' em a few more pixels
22:43 MrSergio: 01:02:387 - 01:02:553 - rip vocals
22:44 MrSergio: 01:02:874 - a bit more of structure would help here. As of now they are just random jumps so try finding a shape to give them all
22:44 _Meep_: Ok then
22:44 MrSergio: 01:08:394 (1,1,1,1,1) - color fiesta x)
22:44 _Meep_: X3
22:44 _Meep_: Well
22:45 _Meep_: Without colors,no NC would mean No tension at this part
22:45 MrSergio: 01:10:560 (1,2) - try increasing spacing here, considering 01:10:727 (2) - has far more emphasis then 01:10:060 (3,4,5) - and similar
22:45 _Meep_: Works better with patterns that use 1/3 tho,but whatevs
22:45 MrSergio: 01:13:394 (1,2) - aesthetics can be improved, along with structure I guess
22:45 MrSergio: actually, take the whole pattern
22:46 _Meep_: 01:14:560 (4) - I kind of liked this slider tbh :/
22:46 MrSergio: 01:16:060 (1,2) - spacing looks a bit too big, or it should have been a slider, idk
22:46 Zaphkael: what is all this gnome bullshit
22:46 MrSergio: good, then you already have a hint on how to change the pattern
22:46 _Meep_: kk,gona lower the spacin'
22:46 MrSergio: try giving more meaning to that slider you like
22:47 _Meep_: Hmm,ok
22:47 MrSergio: 01:21:060 (5,6,1) - emphasis
22:47 Frostwich: ye
22:47 Frostwich: hi sergio
22:47 _Meep_: got it
22:47 MrSergio: 01:23:560 (2,3) - [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6517030 on vocals]
22:48 Sotarks: Frostwich
22:48 Frostwich: hello
22:48 Sotarks: (can you) mod my map?
22:48 _Meep_: changed
22:48 Sotarks: _Meep_
22:48 Sotarks: (can you) mod my map?
22:48 _Meep_: yus
22:48 Sotarks: thx
22:48 WhytFng: Sotarks: thx for pp
22:48 _Meep_: i alr tried to mod ur map
22:48 _Meep_: LOL
22:48 _Meep_: failed terribly
22:48 Sotarks: WhytFng: thx for pp
22:48 HB24: no
22:48 MrSergio: 01:35:227 (2,3) - bigger spacing maybe
22:48 WhytFng: ur welcome
22:48 *Sotarks is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1115622 fhana - The Color to Gray World]
22:48 Sotarks: that map
22:48 Sotarks: is a new fhana beauty song
22:49 MrSergio: 01:39:393 (1,2,3,4,5) - structure <.<
22:49 _Meep_: spacing given
22:49 [-obee58-]: remove mouse lag
22:49 MrSergio: 01:41:560 - please why
22:49 MrSergio: sudden spacing out of nowhere
22:49 MrSergio: check the spacing you used for 01:39:393 (1,2,3) -
22:49 HB24: hi sergio
22:49 Sotarks: hi hb43
22:49 HB24: hi soterks
22:49 _Meep_: What u mean sudden spacing out of nowhere? You mean the 3/4?
22:50 Sotarks: sup
22:50 MrSergio: umh... I guess... that's all the stuff I can mention without going into details of some possible lesson your mentor might give you later
22:50 MrSergio: I mean the 1/2 spam
22:50 _Meep_: Well,the beats there are pretty much the same
22:50 HB24: ughh
22:50 HB24: this mentor thing
22:50 HB24: i dont like it
22:50 _Meep_: so making them the same dist. would be wise i guess
22:51 MrSergio: find me a place in your map where I can see spacings at least at x3.00, since you have jumps of x4.25 here
22:51 MrSergio: 01:41:727 (2) - just select and check lol
22:51 _Meep_: o
22:51 MrSergio: 01:43:727 (1) - lol, x5.68
22:51 Sotarks: Hb
22:51 Sotarks: can you be my mentor
22:51 MrSergio: yes, sotarks needs mentoring
22:51 _Meep_: made it 5.0
22:51 _Meep_: XD
22:51 HB24: are u a grill?
22:52 MrSergio: I had to teach hiim how to set NCs the other day
22:52 *MrSergio runs*
22:52 Sotarks: zzz
22:52 _Meep_: XD
22:52 Sotarks: i like NC mods
22:52 Sotarks: tbh
22:52 Nao Tomori: me 2
22:52 HB24: holy
22:52 Nao Tomori: gib nc mod please
22:52 Sotarks: nao tomori
21:53 Zaphkael: ok zev
21:53 Magicamp: this WHOLE time what diff where yall talking about???
21:53 Zhuriel: i doubt it's more ridiculous than arithmophobia
21:53 WhytFng: you sure
21:53 Zaphkael: who what first map
21:54 riktoi: my first map!!!!
21:54 Magicamp: i wish there was a symbol of slapping myself!
21:54 WhytFng: there is
21:54 WhytFng: but it's unicode
21:54 Magicamp: ?
21:54 Arphimigon: FIRST MAP WHERE?
21:55 *riktoi is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1098659 you - Hold Angel]
21:55 WhytFng: Magicamp: forget it
21:55 riktoi: here!!!
21:55 Arphimigon: MUST SEE
21:55 Arphimigon: wat
21:55 Arphimigon: baka!
21:55 Magicamp: Xd
21:55 riktoi: haha psyche
21:55 WhytFng: riktoi: ナイスメーム
21:55 Magicamp: lol
21:55 Arphimigon: BAKA.
21:55 riktoi: i can't read moon runes fuk
21:55 WhytFng: LOL
21:56 riktoi: the triangle is me i guess
21:56 WhytFng: the rest is 300AD ancient pagan curses
21:56 Magicamp: XD
21:56 Arphimigon: guyz did u kno
21:56 Arphimigon: ninja is ded?
21:56 WhytFng: you're doomed for all eternity and the life after that
21:56 Magicamp: ssoooooo
21:57 Magicamp: whats the bpm?? 8O
21:57 Magicamp: XD
21:57 Arphimigon: 69
21:57 WhytFng: 420
21:57 Magicamp: nice'
21:57 Magicamp: big black time!!!
21:57 WhytFng: Zhuriel: you still think it's not as bad
21:58 Zhuriel: it sounds about comparable
21:59 Stingy: arphi wyd
21:59 Arphimigon: Not much
21:59 Arphimigon: Relaxin, talking to gf, chattin'
21:59 Stingy: nice
21:59 WhytFng: ay bois
22:00 Arphimigon: The cool things
22:00 *WhytFng is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1121852 Scott Cawthon / Zir Tobbs - Exotic Butters (Trap Remix)]
22:00 WhytFng: gd me
22:01 _Meep_: exotic butter
22:01 _Meep_: mmmmmmm
22:01 Arphimigon: Exotic Butters!
22:01 WhytFng: the most exotic of butters
22:01 Zaphkael: guys how do i know if a song is in 1/3?
22:02 WhytFng: listen to kicks
22:02 Arphimigon: listen to the MUSIC
22:02 WhytFng: or cymbals
22:02 Zaphkael: what are kicks?
22:02 Zaphkael: im srry im noob :c
22:02 *WhytFng kicks Zaphkael
22:02 WhytFng: those
22:02 Zaphkael: arphi shut up ur blowin mi cover
22:02 WhytFng: loud bass drum
22:02 Zaphkael: but
22:03 Zaphkael: uh
22:03 Arphimigon: ;-;
22:03 Zaphkael: can i just use 1/3 if i want to?
22:03 WhytFng: if you're trying to gnome i'll just kick you again and no
22:03 Zaphkael: i want ez triangles
22:04 Arphimigon: ye use to make triangeel then chang tu 1/2 aftr
22:04 Zaphkael: what do you mean with gnome lol
22:04 Zaphkael: why change again lol, that changes ur snaps again
22:04 Zaphkael: noob
22:05 _Meep_: zaph,can u testplay
22:05 Zaphkael: LOLno im in bed rn
22:05 _Meep_: ;-;
22:05 _Meep_: kk
22:05 Arphimigon: Hi bed
22:05 Zaphkael: srry
22:05 Arphimigon: I'm Chronic Masturbation
22:06 Zhuriel: WhytFng: listened to the whole thing, pretty interesting rhythmically but seemed a bit lacking in structure
22:06 WhytFng: hi i have a gf k
22:06 Arphimigon: Same
22:06 WhytFng: Arphimigon: you contradict urself :^)
22:06 Arphimigon: tbH I am grill sometimes (^:
22:06 Arphimigon: Not really
22:06 Arphimigon: You can have both
22:06 HighTec: I agree!
22:07 Arphimigon: If used well, it can even be a helpful tool
22:07 WhytFng: Zhuriel: i don't wanna time it save me
22:07 HighTec: being a bitch is fun
22:07 Shiguri: yes
22:07 Nao Tomori: hightec bubble my map
22:07 WhytFng: i see those on #osu all the time
22:07 Zaphkael: arphi fy
22:07 HighTec: sory i failed last bn test xd
22:07 Nao Tomori: o rip
22:07 Arphimigon: Ye fuk me :^)
22:08 zev: i'm being quiet for zaph
22:08 HighTec: arphi i'd do u every day <3
22:08 zev: czu he said shut up
22:08 Zhuriel: WhytFng: check out arithmophobia by animals as leaders, i timed that
22:08 Arphimigon: D:
22:08 Arphimigon: I'd do me too! C:
22:08 HighTec: C:
22:08 Zaphkael: zev u can speqk as long as its no memz or hl's ok
22:08 Zhuriel: and a few other fun time signature related things
22:08 zev: okidoki
22:08 Magicamp: oh no
22:08 Cheesecake: hello
22:08 Zaphkael: corrections: i do me!
22:08 *Zaphkael run
22:08 _Meep_: i do me too
22:08 Magicamp: changing my offset moved everything??
22:09 *_Meep_ runs
22:09 zev: arphi squeeze duck
22:09 Arphimigon: Already am
22:09 Zaphkael: i dunno magicamp
22:09 Zaphkael: im new
22:09 Zaphkael: i wish i got better at mapping tbh
22:09 Magicamp: isnt there a way to subtract a number for your timing points?
22:10 MrSergio: select them all
22:10 Arphimigon: Mapping is only worth it if you pick up c00l mappin'
22:10 zev: map more
22:10 zev: only way
22:10 [XV]: good evening mrSergio
22:10 Nao Tomori: thts 2 hard
22:10 Magicamp: but then how do you subtract
22:10 MrSergio: http://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/4R8tdXpn
22:10 MrSergio: -/+ <insert number>
22:10 MrSergio: good evening, #modhelp
22:10 Magicamp: ahhhhh
22:10 WhytFng: sergio is that XP
22:11 Magicamp: nive
22:11 MrSergio: no, it's Win7 without graphics
22:11 _Meep_: sergio
22:11 Magicamp: nice
22:11 _Meep_: hi
22:11 MrSergio: hi
22:11 WhytFng: cool cool
22:11 _Meep_: can u test my map ;w;
22:11 MrSergio: link
22:11 Magicamp: lol
22:11 *_Meep_ is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1123815 Aqours - Daisuki Dattara Daijoubu!]
22:11 _Meep_: expert plez <3
22:11 WhytFng: _Meep_ i'm not good enough confirmed
22:12 _Meep_: lol
22:12 MrSergio: here we go
22:12 _Meep_: xhill -.-
22:12 _Meep_: chill*
22:12 HighTec: lolis
22:12 Magicamp: i guess i will move them by the differance between 3068 my previous offset by 171 my current?
22:12 Magicamp: lol
22:12 Nao Tomori: what are you trying to do now
22:13 Magicamp: move my timing points
22:13 WhytFng: i have like 30 songs timed and unmapped
22:13 WhytFng: i'm so lazy
22:14 MrSergio: offset is late
22:14 Magicamp: so whyfng should i just start over??
22:14 _Meep_: is it shit
22:14 Magicamp: just delete it?
22:14 WhytFng: rip my username
22:14 _Meep_: MY GOD THE OFFSET IS ALWAYS WRONG
22:14 WhytFng: don't give up, keep trying
22:14 WhytFng: if you can't do it request for timing
22:14 Magicamp: drink some bleach
22:14 Nao Tomori: offset +4 or so
22:15 Nao Tomori: assuming sergio acc is good
22:15 Magicamp: and then just delete it
22:15 WhytFng: offest is good +/- about 300
22:15 Magicamp: thats what i should do?
22:15 MrSergio: umh...
22:15 WhytFng: usually
22:15 MrSergio: nvm, it's good
22:15 _Meep_: rip
22:15 _Meep_: i disconnected
22:15 _Meep_: was there any problems sergio?
22:15 MrSergio: nope
22:15 _Meep_: Any comments/complaints? ;o
22:15 MrSergio: I mean, not with timing
22:15 _Meep_: Yea
22:16 _Meep_: I can see its not related to timing
22:16 MrSergio: compains: combo colors please
22:16 _Meep_: XD
22:16 _Meep_: Anything that I could improve? -.-
22:16 MrSergio: how to typo
22:16 -Nitrous: rip
22:16 _Meep_: Oh yea LOL
22:16 MrSergio: don't you have a mentor? LOL
22:16 _Meep_: i didn't add those
22:16 *_Meep_ runs
22:16 WhytFng: chewed up
22:16 _Meep_: Ima just put 3 combo colors
22:16 _Meep_: color of chika you and riko
22:16 -Nitrous: hoyl
22:16 Nao Tomori: xexxar mentor LUL
22:17 *-Nitrous faints
22:17 WhytFng: why not chica bonnie and foxy
22:17 -Nitrous: because screw FNAF
22:17 Yoshino--: are combo colors needed?
22:17 MrSergio: yes
22:17 _Meep_: there
22:17 MrSergio: because I say so
22:17 WhytFng: black black and black
22:17 -Nitrous: :O
22:17 _Meep_: sergio,anything else to complain abt
22:17 _Meep_: ;o
22:17 MrSergio: 00:05:887 (4,5) - rip movement
22:18 _Meep_: why D:
22:18 MrSergio: 00:03:887 (1,2,3,4,1) - structure can be improved. Can you maybe give it... something... idk, it just doesn't tell me anything
22:18 MrSergio: listen to vocals
22:18 _Meep_: Ok,will see what I can do o-o
22:18 MrSergio: 00:06:053 - strong beat wasted
22:18 Nao Tomori: 00:54:220 (2) - inb4 red tick trigger
22:19 _Meep_: trudat
22:19 MrSergio: and in general, spacing is not increasing, even tho vocal emphasis does
22:19 _Meep_: so much stuff i missed,omg -.-
22:19 MrSergio: 00:05:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - between these I mean
22:19 MrSergio: ^ it's the same as for 00:03:887 (1,2,3,4,1) -
22:20 MrSergio: I hope your mentor told you the golden rule of mapping: song is your supreme and overpowered lord
22:20 MrSergio: you do what the song asks for, not what you want to (in most cases)
22:20 -Nitrous: I'm learning so much even tho I have no mentor
22:21 Nao Tomori: unless ur mapping can do
22:21 MrSergio: 00:09:220 (5,1) - flow and emphasis are rip here too. Try: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6516835
22:21 Nao Tomori: then you do what you want
22:21 _Meep_: omfg
22:21 _Meep_: my connection
22:21 _Meep_: AAAAAAAAA
22:21 _Meep_: stupid SG internet fkin with me -.-
22:21 MrSergio: http://mrsergio.s-ul.eu/z8QcxaM3
22:21 _Meep_: rip
22:21 _Meep_: now i cant even open a osu link
22:22 -Nitrous: uhh _Meep_ how big is the set going to be?
22:22 MrSergio: we could move it to a PM, but I get teh feeling someone else might get something from this anyway
22:22 _Meep_: Its alr big enough
22:22 Daoski: im learning
22:22 MrSergio: 00:11:053 - 00:11:387 - don't waste them please
22:22 MrSergio: Meep ^
22:23 _Meep_: sliderart taimu
22:23 MrSergio: or at least, 00:11:387 - place a beat here, stacked on 00:11:553 (1) -
22:23 MrSergio: I mean, stacked on 00:11:720 (2) - , damn it
22:23 MrSergio: no, it's fine even with just that beat
22:23 MrSergio: but if you want the slider, make it. In that case it would be a waste to not click on 00:11:387 - tho
22:23 _Meep_: fixed
22:24 _Meep_: Hmm,if we need to click on 00:11:387 - ,I think a slider is rather off dead
22:24 MrSergio: 00:12:887 (4,5) - make sure that this jump is a bigger than 00:12:720 (3,4) -
22:24 _Meep_: oshit the triangle isn't perfect
22:24 Bluekrait: are there streams in advanced difficulties?
22:24 MrSergio: it's a matter of emphasis, listen to the song
22:24 MrSergio: no
22:24 Bluekrait: 150 bpm
22:24 MrSergio: still no
22:24 Bluekrait: triples?
22:25 MrSergio: Advanced =/= hard
22:25 MrSergio: use 1/4 snaps after sliders, but not more
22:25 Bluekrait: advanced is easier than hard right?
22:25 MrSergio: yes
22:25 pkhg: maybe 1/4 slider
22:25 xfraczynho: guys
22:25 Bluekrait: ok thanks
22:25 xfraczynho: can anyone help me with hitsounds?
22:25 WhytFng: can someone test a ~5* map for me, and tell me if what i have so far is too repetitive
22:25 _Meep_: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6516873
22:25 Nao Tomori: is it dnb
22:25 xfraczynho: i'll
22:25 xfraczynho: gimme a sec
22:25 _Meep_: looks horrible sergio XD will try to change
22:25 MrSergio: Meep, what did you do so far with your mentor?
22:25 Nao Tomori: whytfng
22:25 WhytFng: Nao Tomori: neuro dnb
22:26 Nao Tomori: it is
22:26 WhytFng: thanks love you
22:26 WhytFng: net opinion?
22:26 WhytFng: x*
22:26 MrSergio: just to have a clue as to what to bring up and what not
22:26 _Meep_: So far he taught me on aesthetics and equal spacing,though some parts don't have it due to mass editing XD
22:26 Nao Tomori: gimme
22:26 *WhytFng is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1123461 Sirma - Trigger (Computerartist Remix)]
22:26 Nao Tomori: triggered
22:26 xfraczynho: why people changes sample sounds every inherit point?
22:26 MrSergio: well, "equal spacing" is part of "spacing" so he should have taught you how it works in general
22:27 xfraczynho: is it neccesary for rank?
22:27 MrSergio: which is mainly the problem I see on this map
22:27 Nao Tomori: xexxar's idea of spacing is very "interesting"
22:27 Daoski: @fraczynho not really
22:27 Nao Tomori: whytfng what dif
22:27 _Meep_: mainly the problem
22:27 *_Meep_ cries
22:27 MrSergio: 00:15:220 (2,3,4,5,1) - better, try to analyze this one and apply the same concept to similar parts
22:27 MrSergio: although structure is weak
22:27 RlKU: Can anyone give me their opinion on the current state of a map im working on
22:27 *RlKU is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1124776 Mocki - Weekend (Jai Wolf Remix)]
22:27 MrSergio: (but it's better to fix one thing than having everything out of place)
22:28 xfraczynho: ik isn't
22:28 _Meep_: Ok,I think I see some of the problems
22:28 xfraczynho: so everyone keep changing to SC:1, SC:2 and i don't know why
22:28 MrSergio: 00:17:053 (5,1) - emphasis
22:28 MrSergio: da jumpu
22:28 _Meep_: notes aren't emphasized well enuf because they have different distances than what the song should be presented as
22:28 MrSergio: emphasis is created through "differences in spacing"
22:29 MrSergio: to give more emphasis to a certain beat you need to give less to the one before it
22:29 Fenza: vote trump 2016
22:29 _Meep_: Yea,which is,what I think my map lacks alot
22:29 _Meep_: Hmm,ok then
22:29 _Meep_: I'll rework the map tmrw,its getting late for me now
22:29 MrSergio: and since the basic concept of emphasis is, distance = emphasis, the more distance the better for emphasis
22:29 _Meep_: got it
22:29 MrSergio: 00:18:387 (3,4) - this is one of the few patterns working well with reversed emphasis\
22:30 MrSergio: due to the downwards movement (second type of emphasis, playfield)
22:30 MrSergio: (yes, playfiueld has an emphasis)
22:30 -Nitrous: omg 14+ SP already
22:30 MrSergio: with that in mind, try a Ctrl + G on 00:19:887 (1) -
22:30 Nao Tomori: Fenza: please
22:30 HML: vote trump 2016
22:30 Fenza: nao tomori please
22:30 Zaphkael: 14 sp pu lease thats nothing
22:30 Fenza: thanks
22:30 Fenza: a person that understands :^)
22:30 _Meep_: done
22:31 Nao Tomori: dont do this to us
22:31 -Nitrous: no I mean 14 sp filled with self-starring maps
22:31 MrSergio: 00:21:720 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - imo you should start from 00:22:053 - with that pattern of 1/2 half stacked notes
22:31 -Nitrous: please
22:31 Nao Tomori: i see you havent seen whirl's map
22:31 MrSergio: just a feel I get from the song tho, I can't explain this time
22:31 Zaphkael: dat moment when your map has 40+ sp and over half comes from mods on the set
22:31 _Meep_: so I should directly stack the first 2,3?
22:32 MrSergio: 00:24:387 (2,3) - enable stacking and check the mini spacing which comes out of this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6516925
22:32 MrSergio: that, or just simply change pattern
22:32 -Nitrous: I'm supposed to leave for school now but this mentoring seems interesting to read.
22:32 MrSergio: just don't make them similar to the other 2 groups of 1/2
22:32 -Nitrous: Also I'm playing SIF so school can wait :^)
22:32 Zaphkael: remap
22:32 _Meep_: Ima space the notes a bit
22:33 MrSergio: 00:25:220 (7) - x268 y116 ?
22:33 MrSergio: again emphasis on the next slider
22:33 MrSergio: 00:29:887 (2) - clicks are better, hence circles instead (just personal)
22:34 _Meep_: I'll leave it as a reverse slider
22:34 MrSergio: 00:30:720 (1,2,3) - your mentor taught you aesthetics, right? I guess he missed this stuff or he shoouold explain it again to you, since it's not that beautiful
22:34 _Meep_: Wanna go to pm,its getting a bit full here XD
22:34 MrSergio: nope
22:34 -Nitrous: rip
22:34 _Meep_: Ok then
22:34 MrSergio: I'm not gonna teach other 50 users, so I'll keep it here
22:34 Nao Tomori: gg
22:34 Arphimigon: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
22:34 Nao Tomori: i think only ugly about that is 1
22:34 *[-obee58-] is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1099380 Unknown Artist - Cory White House de Chou Taihen! [captin's Insane]] -Easy +DoubleTime
22:34 Arphimigon: Dont go spreading your subjective thoughts around
22:34 Nao Tomori: curved too much
22:34 Arphimigon: *leave*
22:34 _Meep_: Well no,this part was not here when he checked this map
22:34 _Meep_: but
22:34 MrSergio: 00:31:720 (3) - why not removing the slider node of 00:31:720 (3) - ?
22:34 _Meep_: I see what you mean
22:34 MrSergio: double link, rip
22:35 BestLeeSinged: do we need mentor mentors
22:35 MrSergio: who knows
22:35 Arphimigon: I wanna mentore mentors!
22:35 -Nitrous: woah
22:35 [-obee58-]: i cant even play this lOl rip me
22:35 -Nitrous: mentoring mentors
22:35 MrSergio: 00:35:220 (1,2) - swap NC?
22:35 -Nitrous: we're going to need mentors that mentor mentors then
22:35 Nao Tomori: and mentors to mentor mentor mentors
22:35 _Meep_: Oh yea,xr did tell me things about the slider shapes
22:35 -Nitrous: basically mentorception
22:36 MrSergio: 00:37:887 (1,2) - I guess it's consistent, although NCs usually go on strong beats
22:36 MrSergio: (swap NC)
22:36 Zaphkael: but dont those mentor mentors might need mentors?
22:36 Nao Tomori: 00:42:887 (2) - rip slider
22:36 MrSergio: 00:39:720 (3) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6516964?
22:37 MrSergio: and the ones filling the chat with useless stuff where should go, I wonder?
22:37 Zaphkael: mentorception lol
22:37 *Zaphkael hides
22:37 _Meep_: I didn't even notice that slider node
22:37 _Meep_: lol
22:37 MrSergio: I changed that in the screen
22:37 _Meep_: 00:42:887 (2) - I felt that the curve fit the song better
22:37 MrSergio: to make it more "pleasant"
22:37 _Meep_: Yea,I saw it
22:38 MrSergio: 00:37:220 (1,2) - rip emphasis
22:38 _Meep_: I wanted to group the clapping tgt
22:38 _Meep_: as in stack the notes
22:38 -Nitrous: welp gtg now
22:38 _Meep_: seeya
22:39 MrSergio: 00:44:053 (1,2,3) - a bit too... "sloppy" ? Try: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6516978
22:39 MrSergio: you're using lines... use them till the end
22:39 _Meep_: ;o
22:39 _Meep_: fixed
22:39 MrSergio: 00:45:720 - na 00:46:053 - ni 00:46:387 - mo
22:40 Fenza: why not do this in pms
22:40 Fenza: xd
22:40 Fenza: pm's
22:40 MrSergio: I stated my resons above
22:40 _Meep_: so,I should make 'mo' clickable as well?
22:40 MrSergio: those 3 beats should hold the same rhythm, hence the same 1/2 slider
22:40 MrSergio: yes, the last one can be kept a circle tho
22:40 MrSergio: since you need the pause for the next pattern
22:40 Fenza: i got shit for doing this in modhelp once
22:40 Fenza: that's why i asked
22:41 MrSergio: true, let's meme
22:41 Nao Tomori: let
22:41 Nao Tomori: gnome?
22:41 MrSergio: 00:48:387 (2,3) - following vocals here?
22:41 Fenza: what does that even mean
22:41 Arphimigon: I remember when mappin with logic was considered OP
22:41 Fenza: who needs logic
22:41 Arphimigon: Now it's the norm and every1 h8tes it
22:41 MrSergio: I'd rather have 3 into circles
22:42 _Meep_: yea
22:42 _Meep_: vocals
22:42 MrSergio: again, check what they say and how they say it
22:42 Fenza: heighteights it
22:42 Babo-ya: https://i.redd.it/cn33lk4bo7wx.png
22:42 _Meep_: kk
22:42 MrSergio: 00:49:887 (2) - this can be easily made 1/4 shorter, even in testplay it was a bit awkward
22:43 MrSergio: 00:51:720 (4) - check vocals again
22:43 Lassikko: Babo-ya: spicy memme
22:43 MrSergio: 00:54:053 (1,2,3,4) - I had a hard time reading these during testplay, maybe make them more spaced a little?
22:43 _Meep_: okiee,spacin' em a few more pixels
22:43 MrSergio: 01:02:387 - 01:02:553 - rip vocals
22:44 MrSergio: 01:02:874 - a bit more of structure would help here. As of now they are just random jumps so try finding a shape to give them all
22:44 _Meep_: Ok then
22:44 MrSergio: 01:08:394 (1,1,1,1,1) - color fiesta x)
22:44 _Meep_: X3
22:44 _Meep_: Well
22:45 _Meep_: Without colors,no NC would mean No tension at this part
22:45 MrSergio: 01:10:560 (1,2) - try increasing spacing here, considering 01:10:727 (2) - has far more emphasis then 01:10:060 (3,4,5) - and similar
22:45 _Meep_: Works better with patterns that use 1/3 tho,but whatevs
22:45 MrSergio: 01:13:394 (1,2) - aesthetics can be improved, along with structure I guess
22:45 MrSergio: actually, take the whole pattern
22:46 _Meep_: 01:14:560 (4) - I kind of liked this slider tbh :/
22:46 MrSergio: 01:16:060 (1,2) - spacing looks a bit too big, or it should have been a slider, idk
22:46 Zaphkael: what is all this gnome bullshit
22:46 MrSergio: good, then you already have a hint on how to change the pattern
22:46 _Meep_: kk,gona lower the spacin'
22:46 MrSergio: try giving more meaning to that slider you like
22:47 _Meep_: Hmm,ok
22:47 MrSergio: 01:21:060 (5,6,1) - emphasis
22:47 Frostwich: ye
22:47 Frostwich: hi sergio
22:47 _Meep_: got it
22:47 MrSergio: 01:23:560 (2,3) - [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6517030 on vocals]
22:48 Sotarks: Frostwich
22:48 Frostwich: hello
22:48 Sotarks: (can you) mod my map?
22:48 _Meep_: changed
22:48 Sotarks: _Meep_
22:48 Sotarks: (can you) mod my map?
22:48 _Meep_: yus
22:48 Sotarks: thx
22:48 WhytFng: Sotarks: thx for pp
22:48 _Meep_: i alr tried to mod ur map
22:48 _Meep_: LOL
22:48 _Meep_: failed terribly
22:48 Sotarks: WhytFng: thx for pp
22:48 HB24: no
22:48 MrSergio: 01:35:227 (2,3) - bigger spacing maybe
22:48 WhytFng: ur welcome
22:48 *Sotarks is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1115622 fhana - The Color to Gray World]
22:48 Sotarks: that map
22:48 Sotarks: is a new fhana beauty song
22:49 MrSergio: 01:39:393 (1,2,3,4,5) - structure <.<
22:49 _Meep_: spacing given
22:49 [-obee58-]: remove mouse lag
22:49 MrSergio: 01:41:560 - please why
22:49 MrSergio: sudden spacing out of nowhere
22:49 MrSergio: check the spacing you used for 01:39:393 (1,2,3) -
22:49 HB24: hi sergio
22:49 Sotarks: hi hb43
22:49 HB24: hi soterks
22:49 _Meep_: What u mean sudden spacing out of nowhere? You mean the 3/4?
22:50 Sotarks: sup
22:50 MrSergio: umh... I guess... that's all the stuff I can mention without going into details of some possible lesson your mentor might give you later
22:50 MrSergio: I mean the 1/2 spam
22:50 _Meep_: Well,the beats there are pretty much the same
22:50 HB24: ughh
22:50 HB24: this mentor thing
22:50 HB24: i dont like it
22:50 _Meep_: so making them the same dist. would be wise i guess
22:51 MrSergio: find me a place in your map where I can see spacings at least at x3.00, since you have jumps of x4.25 here
22:51 MrSergio: 01:41:727 (2) - just select and check lol
22:51 _Meep_: o
22:51 MrSergio: 01:43:727 (1) - lol, x5.68
22:51 Sotarks: Hb
22:51 Sotarks: can you be my mentor
22:51 MrSergio: yes, sotarks needs mentoring
22:51 _Meep_: made it 5.0
22:51 _Meep_: XD
22:51 HB24: are u a grill?
22:52 MrSergio: I had to teach hiim how to set NCs the other day
22:52 *MrSergio runs*
22:52 Sotarks: zzz
22:52 _Meep_: XD
22:52 Sotarks: i like NC mods
22:52 Sotarks: tbh
22:52 Nao Tomori: me 2
22:52 HB24: holy
22:52 Nao Tomori: gib nc mod please
22:52 Sotarks: nao tomori