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Arrival

Diva Days wrote:

[Arrival's Muzukashii]

00:32:214 (48) - This is actually same sound as (47), need to be K. or u did it cuz of (49), should change (46),(47) to k. Applied
00:35:667 (67) - Delete this, don't need stream here cuz there's no sound. as next one pattern 00:38:109 Playing and challenging purposes
00:53:773 (147) - same as 00:32:214 (48)
00:55:710 (157) - same as 00:35:667 (67)
00:58:574 (173) - ^
01:01:100 (187) - ^
01:15:333 (40) - same as 00:32:214 (48)
01:30:324 (17) - Don't need to add finish, remove finish here. Applied
Etsu
Hi o/

Taiko mod request from my queue (NM)

[General]
Circle:
d = don - D = big don
k = kat - K = big kat

  1. Currently the size of the BG is 1366x768 or 1920x1080.
  2. Fix name artist unicode in muzu conflict.. see here. must have the same name in all diff.
[DDDoni]
  1. 00:07:622 - add note? feel empty also in diff previous have note but here no?
  2. 00:38:109 (97) - change k for rhythm like 00:40:804 (120) -
  3. 00:39:877 (113,116) - control + g? for variation
  4. 00:44:341 (146,147) - and 00:44:846 (148,149) - control + g? combine better sound.. also change k in 00:45:352 (150) - sound clear
  5. 00:57:647 (214) - change k
  6. 00:58:321 (219) - ^
  7. 01:05:901 - same for consistency
  8. 01:19:712 (69,70,71) - control + g?
  9. 01:23:081 (93,94) - ^
  10. 01:58:789 (266,267,268) - ^
  11. 02:11:927 (374) - change d?
  12. 02:18:665 (400) - same you map with don like 02:17:991 (398) -
[Jona's Oni]
  1. 00:02:906 (2) - change don?
  2. 00:44:846 (87,88) - control + g?
  3. 00:36:088 (30,35) - change k? you map k 1/1 for rhythm is better imo like 00:32:719 (4) - , 00:33:393 (9) - ...
  4. 01:42:030 - and 01:42:283 - could add note 1/4 heard sound drums.. is better for the diff imo
  5. 02:15:970 (177,178) - maybe control + g for variation
[Arrival's Muzukashii]
  1. 00:32:887 (51,52,53) - this triple no is necessary..
  2. 00:35:582 (66,67,68) - ^ feel strange imo
  3. 00:42:320 (101,102,103) - ^
  4. 00:42:741 - here add note for triple is drums stream
  5. 00:44:341 (110,111,112,113) - make control + g and 00:44:846 (112,113) - same.. fits the sound is better for this diff imo
  6. 00:49:731 (130) - ^ change k?
  7. 00:55:710 (157) - delete?
  8. 00:56:131 - feel empty.. add note?
  9. 00:58:826 - ^
  10. 01:03:879 (201) - delete and 01:04:301 - add note here it look better this pattern
  11. 01:25:439 (87) - ^
  12. 01:27:292 (3) - delete no sound for thi diff considering spread
  13. 01:26:787 (1,2,3,4) - is preferible make single color (kk) so different diff since in diff next is similar
  14. 01:29:987 (14) - delete? only follow a just sound is better for this diff imo
  15. 01:32:261 (25) - delete?
  16. 01:33:861 - add note here? in section is similar but is preferible add here since in kiai is more playability
  17. 01:44:809 (94) - change k like 01:39:419 (64) -
  18. 01:50:452 - add note fo triple the sound is clear
  19. 02:08:053 (211) - change D?
  20. 02:11:590 - why no map here? hear sound like 01:28:471 -
  21. 02:14:285 - ^
[iControl's Futsuu]
  1. 00:05:769 (8) - change d?
  2. 00:21:939 - add note?
  3. 00:27:329 - ^
  4. 00:41:814 (36,37) - i like D for variation
  5. 00:43:162 (1) - change D?
  6. 00:51:247 (13,14) - move in 00:51:078 - 1/2? is confuse when following the sound as flute imo.. if apply then add note in 00:51:752 -
  7. 01:19:376 (15,16) - delete? is bit hard for this diff.. if remove then add note in 01:19:544 -
[agu's Kantan]
  1. 00:15:539 - add note?
  2. 00:18:234 - ^
  3. 00:22:276 (23) - change d is better for kantan is easy
  4. 00:25:645 (29) - change k?
  5. 00:42:151 - add note feel empty when have sound
  6. 00:45:015 - same since this song is 1/2 sound general
  7. 00:47:710 - ^
  8. 00:50:405 - ^
  9. 01:03:711 - ^ and section similar no important the SR just focus in spread
  10. 01:41:441 - add note?
  11. 02:00:305 (56,57) - change d for variation combine better sound imo
  12. 02:11:422 - add note and 02:11:759 - sound here for this diff
  13. 02:14:117 - ^
Topic Starter
Raphalge

Etsu wrote:

Hi o/

Taiko mod request from my queue (NM)

  1. Currently the size of the BG is 1366x768 or 1920x1080.will fix bg
  2. Fix name artist unicode in muzu conflict.. see here. must have the same name in all diff. annoying bug -_-, fixed.
[DDDoni]
  1. 00:07:622 - add note? feel empty also in diff previous have note but here no? adding a note would throw off the section structure, so no change for now.
  2. 00:38:109 (97) - change k for rhythm like 00:40:804 (120) - cant hear any sound that supports a k there.
  3. 00:39:877 (113,116) - control + g? for variation I prefer the current flow, also don't think variation is needed this early.
  4. 00:44:341 (146,147) - and 00:44:846 (148,149) - control + g? combine better sound.. also change k in 00:45:352 (150) - sound clear not changing the doubles cause I don't want them to be the same as the next second ones as they sound a lot different. also mapped the quad to the pitch rather than tone.
  5. 00:57:647 (214) - change k k here would be too many for this section
  6. 00:58:321 (219) - ^ ^
  7. 01:05:901 - same for consistency ..same as what?
  8. 01:19:712 (69,70,71) - control + g? this makes a double which would be very out of place here ??
  9. 01:23:081 (93,94) - ^ that sounds pretty nice actually! Applied!
  10. 01:58:789 (266,267,268) - ^ heavily dislike the flow this creates.
  11. 02:11:927 (374) - change d? would have to change all the other ones aswell, and I'd rather keep the k k's to justify the last 2 notes.
  12. 02:18:665 (400) - same you map with don like 02:17:991 (398) - see last point
thanks for modding!
IControl

Etsu wrote:

Hi o/

Taiko mod request from my queue (NM)


[iControl's Futsuu]
  1. 00:05:769 (8) - change d? Doesnt flow well with other part imo
  2. 00:21:939 - add note? This breaks what sounds im mapping too
  3. 00:27:329 - ^
  4. 00:41:814 (36,37) - i like D for variation I like to keep things consistent
  5. 00:43:162 (1) - change D? ^
  6. 00:51:247 (13,14) - move in 00:51:078 - 1/2? is confuse when following the sound as flute imo.. if apply then add note in 00:51:752 - Im actually mapping to the bass because its much easier to follow
  7. 01:19:376 (15,16) - delete? is bit hard for this diff.. if remove then add note in 01:19:544 - Its not that hard lol also this pattern goes well with the rhythm at kai time.
Thanks but no change
Jona

Etsu wrote:

Hi o/

[General]
Circle:
d = don - D = big don
k = kat - K = big kat

  1. Currently the size of the BG is 1366x768 or 1920x1080. Should be fixed pretty

    [Jona's Oni]
    1. 00:02:906 (2) - change don? I think kat is fine, no change
    2. 00:44:846 (87,88) - control + g? 88 has a high pitch sound, so no change
    3. 00:36:088 (30,35) - change k? you map k 1/1 for rhythm is better imo like 00:32:719 (4) - , 00:33:393 (9) - ... Not sure what you mean, so I'll keep it the way it is for now
    4. 01:42:030 - and 01:42:283 - could add note 1/4 heard sound drums.. is better for the diff imo I will think about this, maybe change later
    5. 02:15:970 (177,178) - maybe control + g for variation Same sound as the two singles before this, variation would only make it wierd. No change
Thanks :)
roufou

Etsu wrote:

[agu's Kantan]
  1. 00:15:539 - add note? changed a bit
  2. 00:18:234 - ^ same as above
  3. 00:22:276 (23) - change d is better for kantan is easy no change for now, might need change but I don't think this sounds good
  4. 00:25:645 (29) - change k? same as above
  5. 00:42:151 - add note feel empty when have sound the reason there's no note there is because it sounds weird if I put it there and not on the next one
  6. 00:45:015 - same since this song is 1/2 sound general again it's hard to fit notes here without having to add even more for it to sound good, then becoming too hard
  7. 00:47:710 - ^ as above
  8. 00:50:405 - ^ as above
  9. 01:03:711 - ^ and section similar no important the SR just focus in spread as above
  10. 01:41:441 - add note? don't think so
  11. 02:00:305 (56,57) - change d for variation combine better sound imo changed the first one
  12. 02:11:422 - add note and 02:11:759 - sound here for this diff tried to change it to sound better
  13. 02:14:117 - ^ added
Yuzeyun
succ
i wont care about the sr yields because no one should

[Dashed Double Drill Oni]

01:20:807 (78) - how bout getting a k on this note? there's a snare sound going on
01:52:641 (204,205) - invert, the rhythm is two snares on the blue ticks then the last snare ends on the white one.
01:59:379 (271,272) - ^ and 01:59:547 (273,274) - as well if you do it because snare consistency
02:00:726 (284,285) - ^ (but can do kk as well but it's harder)
02:02:074 (298,299) - ^
02:03:421 (311,312) - ^
actually there are more but i feel like you didn't even want snare consistency :thinking2:

[Oni]
00:21:602 (100,...) - i think you can just use simple notes rather than big; it simply feels rough to have 30ish big notes in a row 1/1. also maybe map more than just.... that, it just doesn't blend in well between the two difficulties
about svs i'd advise you to change them to be smoothreading because it feels weird

[Muzukashii]
traître Kappa

[Futsuu]
01:15:502 (1) - 01:26:281 (1) - might need one 2/1 break section
01:26:450 (1) - personally dont like the spinner, you could put notes on the melody with a simple pattern

[Kantan]
idk my only complaint is the constant kdk on upbeat, doesn't play really interesting in my opinion :(
Topic Starter
Raphalge

Unmei Muma wrote:

succ
i wont care about the sr yields because no one should

[Dashed Double Drill Oni]

01:20:807 (78) - how bout getting a k on this note? there's a snare sound going on good ears
01:52:641 (204,205) - invert, the rhythm is two snares on the blue ticks then the last snare ends on the white one. real good ears.
01:59:379 (271,272) - ^ and 01:59:547 (273,274) - as well if you do it because snare consistency skipping this one as I feel 01:59:379 (271) - is a much quieter snare than the first one, also want to have quite a bit of variety in the patterns so I'll just say the last 3 notes are mapped to the synth :^)
02:00:726 (284,285) - ^ strongly dislike how these would play, probably just personal but idk
02:02:074 (298,299) - ^ ^
02:03:421 (311,312) - ^ applying for consistency
actually there are more but i feel like you didn't even want snare consistency :thinking2: :thinking3:
IControl

Unmei Muma wrote:

succ
i wont care about the sr yields because no one should



[Futsuu]
01:15:502 (1) - 01:26:281 (1) - might need one 2/1 break section I agree
01:26:450 (1) - personally dont like the spinner, you could put notes on the melody with a simple pattern I replaced this part with a very simple pattern
Thank you for your awesome mod :)

Futsuu update
http://puu.sh/uLHuV/79b0f9a91d.osz
Ideal
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IRC for DADADADADADADADADADOni
2017-06-02 19:55 Raphalge: reminder to mod my map :^)
2017-06-02 19:55 Idealism: np
2017-06-02 19:55 Idealism: im gonna check now
2017-06-02 19:55 Idealism: :d
2017-06-02 19:55 Raphalge: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1300689 Hige Driver - ukigumo]
2017-06-02 19:55 Idealism: aight
2017-06-02 19:56 Raphalge: alternatively this one is fine too
2017-06-02 19:56 Raphalge: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1279277 landcelita - Tohno Gensou Monogatari (landcelita rmx)]
2017-06-02 19:56 Idealism: alright alright
2017-06-02 20:00 Idealism: ok so id much rather irc mod the dddoni diff for ukigumo and post rest on thread
2017-06-02 20:00 Idealism: xd
2017-06-02 20:01 Raphalge: o
2017-06-02 20:01 Raphalge: that's fine
2017-06-02 20:02 Idealism: 00:08:127 (22) - change to d? seems to play better here rather than k
2017-06-02 20:03 Raphalge: mmm
2017-06-02 20:04 Raphalge: on a lower diff I'd agree but it really doesn't make that big of a difference here
2017-06-02 20:04 Raphalge: I'm also following the retro-beeps rather than the "synth"
2017-06-02 20:04 Idealism: ah
2017-06-02 20:05 Idealism: since you switch to the synth after that section i thought you were mapping to it
2017-06-02 20:06 Idealism: 00:22:444 (4,5) - ctrl+g, 4 doesn't sound pitched enough like 5 does to use a k instead of d and vice versa
2017-06-02 20:07 Idealism: plus keeps consistency with the following ddks
2017-06-02 20:08 Raphalge: the ddk's in the later parts sound different though :(
2017-06-02 20:08 Idealism: 00:27:666 (27,28,29) - sounds exactly the same
2017-06-02 20:08 Idealism: and is a ddk
2017-06-02 20:08 Idealism: 00:24:971 (15,16,17) - this one doesn't
2017-06-02 20:09 Raphalge: yeah i was thinking i could change 00:27:666 (27,28,29) - to dkd instead
2017-06-02 20:09 Idealism: imo you should change 00:24:971 (15,16,17) - to dkd instead
2017-06-02 20:10 Idealism: as the pitch is higher on 16 and lowers on 17
2017-06-02 20:10 Raphalge: yeah i see it
2017-06-02 20:10 Raphalge: flows better too
2017-06-02 20:10 Idealism: yup!
2017-06-02 20:12 Idealism: 00:45:352 (150,151,152,153) - kddk sounds better here tbh
2017-06-02 20:12 Raphalge: eh
2017-06-02 20:12 Raphalge: seems pretty subjective imo
2017-06-02 20:13 Raphalge: i think both work but I'd rather keep it as dkkd for the sake of flow
2017-06-02 20:14 Idealism: its just that i noticed that you did that for 00:48:047 (160,161,162,163) - except that the pitch maintains itself in 161 and then lowers
2017-06-02 20:14 Idealism: unlike the one i linked, in which the pitch lowers on 151
2017-06-02 20:15 Raphalge: ok that one i can change cause kkdk looks really weird
2017-06-02 20:17 Idealism: 01:03:374 (258,259,260,261,262,263) - ddk ddk looks almost the same and agrees with the pitching here
2017-06-02 20:18 Idealism: other than that holy this section is GREAT
2017-06-02 20:18 Raphalge: o
2017-06-02 20:19 Raphalge: there i mostly just want to keep it consistent with the last kiai
2017-06-02 20:19 Raphalge: 00:41:814 (129,130,131,132,133,134) -
2017-06-02 20:20 Idealism: ah
2017-06-02 20:20 Idealism: also 00:41:646 (127) - change to k? :d
2017-06-02 20:20 Idealism: i just skipped over that lol
2017-06-02 20:22 Raphalge: sounds kinda weird imo :S
2017-06-02 20:25 Idealism: 01:20:723 (77,78,79) - kkd or ddk?
2017-06-02 20:25 Idealism: ddd doesnt really sound.. right imo lol
2017-06-02 20:26 Raphalge: ddk sounds alright if I change 01:20:386 (75) - to k
2017-06-02 20:26 Idealism: yea agreed
2017-06-02 20:28 Idealism: 01:33:019 (39) - k? it sounds VERY similar to 01:32:682 (36) -
2017-06-02 20:29 Idealism: its actually the same thing but pitched higher
2017-06-02 20:30 Idealism: 01:50:536 - holy SHIT THIS REMINDS ME SO MUCH OF POKEMON FOR SOME REASON AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
2017-06-02 20:30 Idealism: this FUCKING SONG MAN
2017-06-02 20:30 Idealism: ITS GREAT
2017-06-02 20:31 Raphalge: IKR
2017-06-02 20:31 Raphalge: also for 01:33:019 (39) - k would feel off with the bass
2017-06-02 20:32 Idealism: ah
2017-06-02 20:32 Raphalge: in reality i just dont like it but i find random things to use to defend my arguements
2017-06-02 20:33 Idealism: lol
2017-06-02 20:33 Idealism: sincere
2017-06-02 20:33 Idealism: xd
2017-06-02 20:34 Idealism: 01:58:789 (266) - wtf dude have some respect for my ocd REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE in a serious note though, why is this k k when all of the other sections are d k with exactly the same pitch and bass?
2017-06-02 20:35 Raphalge: tbh no reason
2017-06-02 20:35 Idealism: lol
2017-06-02 20:35 Raphalge: k k flows better and the two notes sound almost exactly the same but d k also work
2017-06-02 20:35 Idealism: k k just kills the flow considering literally every single one is d k
2017-06-02 20:36 Idealism: tbh
2017-06-02 20:36 Raphalge: fiiiine
2017-06-02 20:36 Raphalge: d k it is
2017-06-02 20:37 Idealism: 02:18:665 (400) - why k xd its the exact same thing as 02:17:991 (398) -
2017-06-02 20:38 Idealism: plus all of the other ones etc
2017-06-02 20:38 Idealism: same case lol
2017-06-02 20:38 Raphalge: there's a tiny pitch change
2017-06-02 20:39 Raphalge: maybe placebo but i hear it
2017-06-02 20:39 Idealism: listen to it in x0.25 and x0.50
2017-06-02 20:39 Idealism: i hear no difference
2017-06-02 20:40 Idealism: which also made me realize something
2017-06-02 20:40 Idealism: 02:11:927 (374,375) - 02:14:622 (385,386) - 02:17:317 (396,397) - all of these have the same pitch of the other d ks
2017-06-02 20:41 Raphalge: still dunno
2017-06-02 20:41 Raphalge: im hearing a "du-da" on the d k's and a "da-da" on the k k's
2017-06-02 20:42 Raphalge: even on 0.25x
2017-06-02 20:42 Raphalge: maybe im going senile?
2017-06-02 20:42 Idealism: LOL
2017-06-02 20:42 Idealism: im only hearing "du-da"s on all of them
2017-06-02 20:43 Raphalge: well im hearing dadadadadadadadadada's on them
2017-06-02 20:43 Raphalge: wait wrong song
2017-06-02 20:43 Idealism: 打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打打
2017-06-02 20:43 Raphalge: fun fact this guy also made dadadada
2017-06-02 20:43 Idealism: yeah
2017-06-02 20:43 Idealism: i noticed that
2017-06-02 20:44 Idealism: o ya on a random note gz on 8k pp my boy
2017-06-02 20:44 Raphalge: thx
2017-06-02 20:45 Raphalge: farming submission pp for 8 hours was worth it
2017-06-02 20:45 Idealism: hell yea
2017-06-02 20:47 Idealism: fun fact i had to change the ar to 9 manually to be able to mod this
2017-06-02 20:47 Idealism: lul
2017-06-02 20:47 Idealism: editor was 2 fast
2017-06-02 20:47 Raphalge: wait what
2017-06-02 20:47 Raphalge: ar does nothing though?
2017-06-02 20:47 Idealism: on the editor it does
2017-06-02 20:47 Raphalge: but for taiko everything's on the timeline
2017-06-02 20:47 Idealism: remember im a std player
2017-06-02 20:47 Idealism: LOL
2017-06-02 20:48 Raphalge: dude this would be dope on standard
2017-06-02 20:48 Idealism: yea
2017-06-02 20:48 Idealism: holy
2017-06-02 20:48 Raphalge: ukigumo [DEATHSTACK]
2017-06-02 20:48 Idealism: LOL YES
2017-06-02 20:48 Raphalge: o yeah
2017-06-02 20:48 Raphalge: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/659794 Hige Driver - ukigumo]
2017-06-02 20:48 Idealism: cookiezi said he loves taiko mapping, time to become a popular mapper because of taiko
2017-06-02 20:48 Idealism: l ol
2017-06-02 20:49 Idealism: IS THAT FOR DT
2017-06-02 20:49 Idealism: OMG
2017-06-02 20:49 Raphalge: uh
2017-06-02 20:49 Raphalge: it would be hard as fuck with dt but sure
2017-06-02 20:50 Idealism: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/659794 Hige Driver - ukigumo [DDDot AR10.33 +DT]] +DoubleTime
2017-06-02 20:52 Idealism: shit aim
2017-06-02 20:52 Idealism: mostly bc im tired
2017-06-02 20:52 Idealism: so yea
2017-06-02 20:52 Idealism: l ol
2017-06-02 20:52 Raphalge: lo
2017-06-02 20:54 Raphalge: 10 misses > shit aim
2017-06-02 20:55 Idealism: lol i hit the square
2017-06-02 20:55 Idealism: ????????????
2017-06-02 20:55 Raphalge: :think:
2017-06-02 20:55 Idealism: this is DEFINITELY fcable
2017-06-02 20:55 Idealism: also
2017-06-02 20:55 Idealism: i realized
2017-06-02 20:55 Idealism: this is ar10 and the other one is 10.33
2017-06-02 20:55 Idealism: bc dr ar9
2017-06-02 20:55 Idealism: xd
2017-06-02 20:55 Raphalge: mhm
2017-06-02 20:55 Idealism: reading problems
2017-06-02 20:55 Idealism: feelsgoodman
2017-06-02 20:55 Raphalge: btw remember to post the irc log on the thread for free kd :v
2017-06-02 20:56 Idealism: ya xd
Chromoxx
irc on the highest diff, talked about some density stuff and SV

log
2017-07-05 17:12 Raphalge: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1182308 Hige Driver - ukigumo]
2017-07-05 17:12 Raphalge: thx
2017-07-05 17:12 Chromoxx: will do after the current one :D
2017-07-05 17:22 Chromoxx: ok let's go
2017-07-05 17:22 Chromoxx: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1182308 Hige Driver - ukigumo [DDDoni]] <Taiko> +Hidden
2017-07-05 17:27 Chromoxx: okay
2017-07-05 17:27 Chromoxx: the map is kinda built a lot around escalating toward the end
2017-07-05 17:28 Raphalge: mhm
2017-07-05 17:28 Chromoxx: but i feel like the SV is a bit overdone, 1.1 and then going up to 1.2 on the last half of the kiai would be a bit more fitting imo
2017-07-05 17:29 Raphalge: hmm
2017-07-05 17:29 Chromoxx: 02:05:864 - would also make the decrease here seem less drastic, it makes the entire stream look like its lower SV but its still the same intensity in the song
2017-07-05 17:29 Raphalge: would 1.25x be acceptable?
2017-07-05 17:30 Raphalge: definitely agree on that second point though
2017-07-05 17:30 Chromoxx: i'm not the one who decides what's acceptable ^^
2017-07-05 17:30 Chromoxx: but yea, just see what works for yourself i guess ^^
2017-07-05 17:31 Chromoxx: also i feel liek some of the streams in the kiai are too long
2017-07-05 17:31 Chromoxx: you have a bunch of 1/2 notes with only triplets and then suddenly comes a longer stream even though the music isn't that much more intense
2017-07-05 17:31 Raphalge: 01:47:167 (153) - like this one?
2017-07-05 17:32 Chromoxx: yea like that
2017-07-05 17:32 Chromoxx: and most of the ones in the second half of the kiai
2017-07-05 17:32 Chromoxx: but mostly it's just the long streams standing out too much
2017-07-05 17:33 Chromoxx: 00:43:162 - also i feel like this part could be mapped a bit more densely, theres still a lot going on in the music
2017-07-05 17:33 Chromoxx: 01:04:722 - same for this
2017-07-05 17:33 Raphalge: hmm
2017-07-05 17:33 Raphalge: that'd mostly be filling in some blanks though right?
2017-07-05 17:34 Chromoxx: yea, i see you're following only the main electronic flute type thingie or whatever it is
2017-07-05 17:34 Chromoxx: but there's a lot more going on in the music so only mapping that is kinda underwhelming imo
2017-07-05 17:35 Chromoxx: also from 00:10:822 - at the start there's a bunch of continuous 1/4 so it might be cool if you could put some triplets or whatever into your short 1/2 patterns to emphasize that but i can understand if you wanna leave it out for more consistent buildup throughout the map
2017-07-05 17:37 Raphalge: idk about triples but it can definitely be a bit denser
2017-07-05 17:37 Raphalge: uploaded a test diff with some more notes during the calm parts
2017-07-05 17:37 Chromoxx: looks better
2017-07-05 17:38 Chromoxx: 01:04:722 - you forgot this one tho xD
2017-07-05 17:38 Chromoxx: 00:26:992 - also finishers like this are kinda out of place, since there's not really any strong crash here
2017-07-05 17:40 Raphalge: what about the first one in that section
2017-07-05 17:41 Chromoxx: 00:21:602 - this one is ok i guess
2017-07-05 17:41 Chromoxx: the ones after that not really imo
2017-07-05 17:41 Chromoxx: anyway, i gotta go now.. i'll post the log in the thread :D
strickluke
FREEDOM

agu's Kantan:
01:24:597 (121) - add a k here?

IControl's Futsuu:
00:04:085 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - kkk twice in a row sounds weird, maybe change the second pattern to kdk
00:52:089 (16) - delete this
Idk, I think this difficulty could use more 2/1 breaks or more breaks in general, because the rhythm gets kinda boring after a while
01:35:040 (13,14,15,16) - I feel that a 1/1 pattern fits here better instead of a 1/2 double pattern
01:40:430 (33,34,35,36) - ^

Arrival's Muzukashii:
01:15:333 (40) - add finish
Nice diff otherwise :D

Jona's Oni:
00:02:738 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This first pattern has 9 notes in it, but the rest of the patterns have 7 notes up until the 20 second mark. Maybe consider deleting 00:02:906 (2) -
00:31:540 (2) - deleting this sounds better to me, just personal opinion though
01:31:671 (1) - Make this a D imo

DDDoni:
01:49:694 (179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189) - For patterns like these I personally like to start increasing SV at the very beginning, not in the middle of it. Unless you have a reason you did it specifically in the middle of the pattern, try starting the sv change at the beginning.

Nice set, sorry I'm a horrible person and never mod things :o
IControl

strickluke wrote:

FREEDOM


IControl's Futsuu:
00:04:085 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - kkk twice in a row sounds weird, maybe change the second pattern to k
I dont like the way kkk kdk sounds


00:52:089 (16) - delete this lol why?


Idk, I think this difficulty could use more 2/1 breaks or more breaks in general, because the rhythm gets kinda boring after a while
I see your point but the songs is very dense and i would rather wait for a bn b4 completing remapping my map

01:35:040 (13,14,15,16) - I feel that a 1/1 pattern fits here better instead of a 1/2 double pattern
01:40:430 (33,34,35,36) - ^
Changed them
Thank you for your mod :)
Futsuu
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Topic Starter
Raphalge

strickluke wrote:

FREEDOM

DDDoni:
01:49:694 (179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189) - For patterns like these I personally like to start increasing SV at the very beginning, not in the middle of it. Unless you have a reason you did it specifically in the middle of the pattern, try starting the sv change at the beginning. I've experimented with it in previous versions of the diff but it simply didn't work out, I guess I could try to rework it if everyone else thinks the same way.

Nice set, sorry I'm a horrible person and never mod things :o
thanks and thanks for the random mod?? :D
IControl
Hi there modding this for m4m

agu's Kantan

00:16:886 - del to match the previous structure?

00:25:308 (27) - move to 00:24:634 - for simillar reasons above and 00:24:634 - sounds more important than 00:25:308 -

00:26:318 (29) - del? there are alot of 1/1s in this section and I think this is a good spot for a break




Arrival's Muzukashii

01:27:292 (3) - del this to match this pattern 01:26:787 -

01:29:987 (14) - ^

01:36:387 (47) - coninsder move these notes to here 01:36:556 - and change to d in this section to match the keyboard better

01:46:157 (98) - this could go over here 01:45:988 - for similar reasons above

Jona's Oni

00:43:162 - to 00:53:942 - try to make this part more dense or the kai times less dense because that section is easier than the beginning 00:02:738 - when it should be more intesnse

02:06:706 - I think this part could have even less notes because it very calm in this section and the player could probably use a break.

@Raphalge you uploaded your old DDDoni not sure with that was on purpose

I didn' t see any issues with DDDoni hopefully this helps us get it ranked! :)
Topic Starter
Raphalge

IControl wrote:

Hi there modding this for m4m



@Raphalge you uploaded your old DDDoni not sure with that was on purpose oops

I didn' t see any issues with DDDoni hopefully this helps us get it ranked! :)
\o/
Arrival

IControl wrote:

Arrival's Muzukashii

01:27:292 (3) - del this to match this pattern 01:26:787 - i'd like to improvise here

01:29:987 (14) - ^

01:36:387 (47) - coninsder move these notes to here 01:36:556 - and change to d in this section to match the keyboard better done

01:46:157 (98) - this could go over here 01:45:988 - for similar reasons above done
https://pastebin.com/4685FT0P

ty
Jona

strickluke wrote:

FREEDOM

Jona's Oni:
00:02:738 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This first pattern has 9 notes in it, but the rest of the patterns have 7 notes up until the 20 second mark. Maybe consider deleting 00:02:906 (2) - removed
00:31:540 (2) - deleting this sounds better to me, just personal opinion though Not sure about this, so no change for now
01:31:671 (1) - Make this a D imo D doesn't feel right here imo, no change

IControl wrote:

Hi there modding this for m4m
Jona's Oni

00:43:162 - to 00:53:942 - try to make this part more dense or the kai times less dense because that section is easier than the beginning 00:02:738 - when it should be more intesnse I don't really see how this is a problem, so no change

02:06:706 - I think this part could have even less notes because it very calm in this section and the player could probably use a break. you might have a point here but I can't really think of a reasonable way to change this, also there is a break like 3 seconds after so i'll wait for more opinions on this before I change anything

Thanks for the mods :)
Surono
>DDD
* seems 1st kiai had 5plet more than 2nd kiai, hmmm
* 01:25:860 - yeh k for that drum, ddk nah ewrr....
* 01:32:092 - kat here to consistently with 01:37:061 - this structure etc
* 01:53:315 - please delete, here dense doesnt makes sense imo w.
* 01:53:063 - i have an idea here, dkd kdk dkdkddk d would be fit here since it consistent with 01:52:052 - this stucture from here
* 02:05:106 - nah please delete, increasing here imo looks forced
* 02:08:053 - THIS PART IS GOOD (2)
guud

>Oni
* 00:37:940 - delete here as mini-rest for this kiai?
* 00:59:500 - same above
* 01:21:060 -
* 01:26:197 - too overdone, delete.
seems 3rd kiai had 1/2 break at half part, so yeah considering this to delete as break. try to check the spread density between muzu and DDDoni with your diff.

>Muzukashii
* hai uncel

>Futsuu
* 00:10:822 - ~ 00:21:602 - a bit dense for this part, 00:12:338 - 00:13:686 - 00:17:728 - 00:19:076 - try to delete these?
* 00:34:066 - 00:39:456 - delete to give distance 1/1 breaks in this kiai
* 00:38:951 - move 00:38:614 - here to keep consistent with the previously structure
* and 2nd kiai and about breaks too
* try to find breaks spot at 3rd kiai

>Kantan
* for overall kiais and similar part, out of ideas...?

Unmei Muma wrote:

[Kantan]
idk my only complaint is the constant kdk on upbeat, doesn't play really interesting in my opinion :(
Topic Starter
Raphalge

Surono wrote:

>DDD
* seems 1st kiai had 5plet more than 2nd kiai, hmmm agree that it's a bit weird, tried to fit another one in, hope it works xd
* 01:25:860 - yeh k for that drum, ddk nah ewrr.... ehh idk about dkk, feels weird with flow maybe dkd d k?
* 01:32:092 - kat here to consistently with 01:37:061 - this structure etc yep that sounds good
* 01:53:315 - please delete, here dense doesnt makes sense imo w. oooo applied with the next suggestion
* 01:53:063 - i have an idea here, dkd kdk dkdkddk d would be fit here since it consistent with 01:52:052 - this stucture from here ^yeah that^
* 02:05:106 - nah please delete, increasing here imo looks forced wtf there's not a sound there how did i not notice before???
* 02:08:053 - THIS PART IS GOOD (2) YEAHAHEHEH
guud
thank you sur ;)
IControl

Surono wrote:

>Futsuu
* 00:10:822 - ~ 00:21:602 - a bit dense for this part, 00:12:338 - 00:13:686 - 00:17:728 - 00:19:076 - try to delete these?

* 00:34:066 - 00:39:456 - delete to give distance 1/1 breaks in this kiai
* 00:38:951 - move 00:38:614 - here to keep consistent with the previously structure
* and 2nd kiai and about breaks too
* try to find breaks spot at 3rd kiai
Fixed all and added some breaks in all the kai sections and at 01:15:502 -

Now my diff has more stars tho? thank you for the mod :)

Futsuu
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Jona

Surono wrote:

>DDD

>Oni
* 00:37:940 - delete here as mini-rest for this kiai? applied
* 00:59:500 - same above applied
* 01:21:060 - applied
* 01:26:197 - too overdone, delete. deleted
seems 3rd kiai had 1/2 break at half part, so yeah considering this to delete as break. try to check the spread density between muzu and DDDoni with your diff. Not sure what you're implying here, a more detailed explanation would be appriciated :)
Thanks for the mod :)
Aloda
Alright let's see what we've got. no kds I guess

Do you have a metadata source?

[agu's Kantan]
Lots of the gaps you've used in this diff feel pretty awkwardly placed. Take the gaps at 00:10:822 - for example. You've left a gap right when the melody starts to pick up pace, making this weird disparity between the intensity of the song and the intensity of your mapping. There are a few other similar places throughout the map: 00:16:212 - is the same thing, for the gap at 00:37:772 - (and the same gap in other similar structures), you have the gap right at the start of the measure. imo, almost always it's way better to instead have a gap at the end of a measure . Try adding a note at 00:38:109 - and removing the one at 00:37:435 - this plays way nicer. Same thing goes for the end of this section 01:03:374 - where you leave a gap right when some really intense sounds kick in.

For the patterns like 00:34:740 (41,42,43) - k d k just fits way better. I guess the reason you've used this pattern is for variety? But for a Kantan especially, intuitive and fitting patterning is way more important than variety. This applies for every time you've used this structure.

01:15:502 - 01:26:281 - I'm sure there's a better way to map this section rather than just recycling the same exact structure you used for the kiais. tbh the same applies to the last kiai, the rhythm is pretty different to the first two, and using this same structure over and over again gets pretty boring pretty quickly.

[iControl's Futsuu]
This diff has a lot of big issues. First of all, the overall density of the diff is too high for a Futsuu. In the last kiai especially the 1/2 usage is too high with too little breaks (the recommended number for a Futsuu is a minimum of one 2/1 or larger break per 4-5 measures. 01:30:324 - 01:54:578 - has none! That's 18 measures. The negligible 3/2 breaks in here don't cut it). Furthermore, the gaps you have used feel really awkwardly placed. Just to point out the biggest offender, look at the gap at 01:19:544 - It falls right on the first beat of the measure which is a really important sound here, and it's super, super unintuitive to skip over like this. Overall this diff needs some major changes before it's ready.

[Arrival's Muzukashii]
Breaking the pattern of 1/2 triplet, inverted pattern triplet for 00:10:149 (28,29,30) - feels kind of weird. It doesn't really matter though, I just find k d k here more aesthetically pleasing.

Switching from even to odd length 1/2 patterns at 00:26:992 - doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The rhythm stays the same, so it's a lot better imo to keep structural consistency rather than recycle the same structure you used for 00:10:822 - .

The 3/4 at 01:30:324 (17,18,19) - plays a little awkwardly since you haven't mapped to the similar sounds following them. Try just leaving a gap here and adding a note at 01:30:998 - It plays a lot better, I think.

[Jona's Oni]
This feels like a very big step up from the muzu, I believe it should be nerfed a bit.

Smooth sv drop at 02:06:706 - please, not so sudden.

There are no real individual things that I have an issue with, but yeah, nerf this diff a bit and we'll see.

[DDDoni]
01:16:849 (60,61,62) - Try shifting this back half a beat (ie. so the triplet starts at 01:16:681 -

I'm pretty happy with this diff.

Some more work needed, particularly on the lower diffs before the set is ready for ranking. You're welcome to post it in my queue again when you think it's ready. :D
Topic Starter
Raphalge

Aloda wrote:

Alright let's see what we've got. no kds I guess

Do you have a metadata source? Sadly the only thing I could find was a discogs link.

[agu's Kantan]
Lots of the gaps you've used in this diff feel pretty awkwardly placed. Take the gaps at 00:10:822 - for example. You've left a gap right when the melody starts to pick up pace, making this weird disparity between the intensity of the song and the intensity of your mapping. There are a few other similar places throughout the map: 00:16:212 - is the same thing, for the gap at 00:37:772 - (and the same gap in other similar structures), you have the gap right at the start of the measure. imo, almost always it's way better to instead have a gap at the end of a measure . Try adding a note at 00:38:109 - and removing the one at 00:37:435 - this plays way nicer. Same thing goes for the end of this section 01:03:374 - where you leave a gap right when some really intense sounds kick in.

For the patterns like 00:34:740 (41,42,43) - k d k just fits way better. I guess the reason you've used this pattern is for variety? But for a Kantan especially, intuitive and fitting patterning is way more important than variety. This applies for every time you've used this structure.

01:15:502 - 01:26:281 - I'm sure there's a better way to map this section rather than just recycling the same exact structure you used for the kiais. tbh the same applies to the last kiai, the rhythm is pretty different to the first two, and using this same structure over and over again gets pretty boring pretty quickly.
uhh, oops? A lot of the mentioned changes are from me applying a discord mod from Taikocracy for agu, so I guess I messed up. But what I'm getting from this is that you basically want the pre-surono version. Will check with agu to see if he still has that.

[iControl's Futsuu]
This diff has a lot of big issues. First of all, the overall density of the diff is too high for a Futsuu. In the last kiai especially the 1/2 usage is too high with too little breaks (the recommended number for a Futsuu is a minimum of one 2/1 or larger break per 4-5 measures. 01:30:324 - 01:54:578 - has none! That's 18 measures. The negligible 3/2 breaks in here don't cut it). Furthermore, the gaps you have used feel really awkwardly placed. Just to point out the biggest offender, look at the gap at 01:19:544 - It falls right on the first beat of the measure which is a really important sound here, and it's super, super unintuitive to skip over like this. Overall this diff needs some major changes before it's ready.

iControl is kinda dead so we'll see if he notices this or not, otherwise I guess I'll have to apply stuff.


[DDDoni]
01:16:849 (60,61,62) - Try shifting this back half a beat (ie. so the triplet starts at 01:16:681 - I like it! applied.

I'm pretty happy with this diff.

Some more work needed, particularly on the lower diffs before the set is ready for ranking. You're welcome to post it in my queue again when you think it's ready. :D
welp, next time will probably be for a different map seeing as the gd'ers look like they're pretty tired with this set. But thanks for the mod either way :D/
Arrival

Aloda wrote:

[Arrival's Muzukashii]
Breaking the pattern of 1/2 triplet, inverted pattern triplet for 00:10:149 (28,29,30) - feels kind of weird. It doesn't really matter though, I just find k d k here more aesthetically pleasing. okay it also sounds better i guess

Switching from even to odd length 1/2 patterns at 00:26:992 - doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The rhythm stays the same, so it's a lot better imo to keep structural consistency rather than recycle the same structure you used for 00:10:822 - . changed

The 3/4 at 01:30:324 (17,18,19) - plays a little awkwardly since you haven't mapped to the similar sounds following them. Try just leaving a gap here and adding a note at 01:30:998 - It plays a lot better, I think. i'll leave it as it is as the d d d follows us imo quite well
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Aloda wrote:

[agu's Kantan]
Lots of the gaps you've used in this diff feel pretty awkwardly placed. Take the gaps at 00:10:822 - for example. You've left a gap right when the melody starts to pick up pace, making this weird disparity between the intensity of the song and the intensity of your mapping. There are a few other similar places throughout the map: 00:16:212 - is the same thing, for the gap at 00:37:772 - (and the same gap in other similar structures), you have the gap right at the start of the measure. imo, almost always it's way better to instead have a gap at the end of a measure . Try adding a note at 00:38:109 - and removing the one at 00:37:435 - this plays way nicer. Same thing goes for the end of this section 01:03:374 - where you leave a gap right when some really intense sounds kick in. I'll probably add some notes in the gaps mentioned but I prefer the last one as is

For the patterns like 00:34:740 (41,42,43) - k d k just fits way better. I guess the reason you've used this pattern is for variety? But for a Kantan especially, intuitive and fitting patterning is way more important than variety. This applies for every time you've used this structure. yeah everyone was complaining about the map being boring and shit so I had to force some changes I guess I'll change back

01:15:502 - 01:26:281 - I'm sure there's a better way to map this section rather than just recycling the same exact structure you used for the kiais. tbh the same applies to the last kiai, the rhythm is pretty different to the first two, and using this same structure over and over again gets pretty boring pretty quickly. I'm not sure I could map it in a way I like e.e
IControl
[iControl's Futsuu]
This diff has a lot of big issues. First of all, the overall density of the diff is too high for a Futsuu. In the last kiai especially the 1/2 usage is too high with too little breaks (the recommended number for a Futsuu is a minimum of one 2/1 or larger break per 4-5 measures. 01:30:324 - 01:54:578 - has none! That's 18 measures. The negligible 3/2 breaks in here don't cut it). Furthermore, the gaps you have used feel really awkwardly placed. Just to point out the biggest offender, look at the gap at 01:19:544 - It falls right on the first beat of the measure which is a really important sound here, and it's super, super unintuitive to skip over like this. Overall this diff needs some major changes before it's ready.

iControl is kinda dead so we'll see if he notices this or not, otherwise I guess I'll have to apply stuff.
Removed a lot of notes still higher star rating

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Jona

Aloda wrote:

[Jona's Oni]
This feels like a very big step up from the muzu, I believe it should be nerfed a bit. removed a couple of notes to make it less dense

Smooth sv drop at 02:06:706 - please, not so sudden. made it somewhat smoother

There are no real individual things that I have an issue with, but yeah, nerf this diff a bit and we'll see. I tried :)
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