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  1. Check Aimod one more time

[Newton's Normal]
  1. 01:23:340 (1,1,2) - If i now there normal need 3tic End of spinner
  2. 01:56:635 (1,1,2) - 02:46:404 (1,1) - 03:42:069 (1,1) - 03:44:670 (1,1) - ^
  3. 00:22:300 (5,1,2) - worng DS ?
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_ Hatsune Miku wrote:

From #modreqs
  1. Check Aimod one more time

[Newton's Normal]
  1. 01:23:340 (1,1,2) - If i now there normal need 3tic End of spinner 2 ticks is fine, i asked
  2. 01:56:635 (1,1,2) - 02:46:404 (1,1) - 03:42:069 (1,1) - 03:44:670 (1,1) - ^ ^
  3. 00:22:300 (5,1,2) - worng DS ? nope, these are meant to be played like hitcircles because of slider leniency so it's fine.
minor change on a spinner
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 191201
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 35340
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.2

[Metadata]
Title:Snow halation
TitleUnicode:Snow halation
Artist:u's
ArtistUnicode:μ's
Creator:Underdogs
Version:Newton's Normal
Source:ラブライブ! School idol project
Tags:love live! school idol project full ver. NewtonsCradle Sc4v4ng3r sullywally
BeatmapID:1133020
BeatmapSetID:528792

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:3
ApproachRate:4
SliderMultiplier:1
SliderTickRate:1

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//Break Periods
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2,173714,190228
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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257,192,119756,2,0,P|304:205|352:193,2,100,0|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
212,172,120623,2,0,B|168:164|168:164|113:181|113:181|65:173,1,150,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
72,272,121491,2,0,B|120:280|120:280|175:263|175:263,1,100,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
265,232,122184,1,4,0:0:0:0:
358,271,122531,6,0,P|405:284|453:272,2,100,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
358,221,123398,2,0,P|386:154|356:88,1,150,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,76,124092,2,0,B|264:68|264:68|209:85|209:85|161:77,1,150,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
266,169,124959,6,0,B|281:218|281:218|273:266,2,100,4|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
186,230,125999,1,8,0:0:0:0:
93,227,126346,2,0,P|80:180|92:132,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
110,85,126866,2,0,B|158:93|158:93|213:76|213:76|257:84,1,150,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
274,182,127733,6,0,B|223:175|223:175|177:191,2,100,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,224,128774,1,8,0:0:0:0:
475,205,129121,2,0,B|483:157|483:157|467:108,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
445,62,129641,2,0,B|397:54|397:54|342:71|342:71|298:63,1,150,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
201,38,130508,6,0,B|193:86|193:86|210:141,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
307,181,131201,2,0,B|322:231|322:231|314:279,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,326,131722,2,0,P|252:340|204:327,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
123,270,132415,2,0,P|135:223|121:175,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
91,135,132936,1,0,0:0:0:0:
127,42,133282,6,8,L|230:32,1,100
286,115,133976,2,8,L|182:124,1,100
91,135,134670,6,0,P|63:202|93:268,1,150,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,296,135363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,344,135710,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,316,136057,6,0,P|333:269|320:221,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,132,136751,2,0,L|172:141,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,148,137271,2,0,B|127:197|127:197|153:248|153:248|154:292,1,150,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,352,138138,2,0,P|279:366|327:353,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,284,138832,6,0,P|413:237|399:189,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,148,139352,2,0,B|326:133|326:133|269:140|269:140|224:124,1,150,2|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
128,91,140219,2,2,L|76:73,2,50,0|0|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
149,188,140912,2,2,L|201:206,2,50,0|8|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
50,168,141606,6,0,P|37:215|50:263,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
125,329,142300,2,0,P|172:341|220:328,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
265,306,142820,2,0,B|309:306|309:306|360:280|360:280|409:280,1,150,2|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
459,193,143687,1,2,0:0:0:0:
505,106,144034,2,0,L|501:51,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,7,144381,6,0,B|422:-54|369:65|300:-3,1,200,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
393,182,145768,6,0,P|345:169|297:182,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
251,202,146288,2,0,P|204:214|156:201,1,100
109,180,146808,1,0,0:0:0:0:
16,140,147155,6,0,L|25:243,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
35,349,147849,2,0,P|84:343|124:312,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,290,148369,2,0,B|217:299|217:299|272:282|272:282|316:290,1,150,2|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
422,308,149236,2,0,P|436:261|423:213,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
359,122,149930,6,0,L|258:104,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
211,104,150450,2,0,B|228:200|228:200|284:256,1,150,2|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
312,328,151317,2,2,L|263:332,2,50,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,248,152011,2,2,L|422:244,2,50,0|8|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,268,152704,6,0,L|168:259,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,228,153398,2,0,P|52:181|64:133,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,84,153918,2,0,B|129:83|129:83|180:109|180:109|224:110,1,150,2|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
312,60,154785,1,2,0:0:0:0:
408,88,155132,2,0,L|404:143,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,188,155479,6,0,B|444:233|444:233|437:290|437:290|452:332,1,150,0|2,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
416,368,156173,2,0,P|348:396|282:366,1,150,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
244,328,156866,2,0,P|196:315|148:328,1,100,12|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
99,334,157386,2,0,P|87:286|100:238,1,100,12|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
119,191,157907,1,8,0:0:0:0:
209,152,158254,6,0,P|229:198|268:229,1,100,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
356,272,158947,2,0,P|325:312|280:330,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
179,330,159641,2,0,P|111:301|44:330,2,150,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,329,161028,5,4,0:0:0:0:
380,328,161375,2,0,P|391:280|379:230,2,100,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,274,162415,2,0,P|266:208|293:141,2,150,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,206,163803,1,4,0:0:0:0:
456,154,164149,6,0,P|469:202|457:250,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
437,296,164670,1,2,0:0:0:0:
346,337,165017,2,0,B|301:353|301:353|244:346|244:346|202:361,1,150,2|2,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
167,326,165710,2,0,P|155:277|167:230,1,100,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,166404,12,4,167964,0:0:0:0:
256,172,168658,6,0,L|256:232,2,50,8|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,169178,12,4,173514,0:0:0:0:
353,191,191548,6,0,P|306:178|258:191,1,100,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,237,192242,2,0,P|156:189|169:142,1,100,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
199,102,192762,2,0,B|248:74|312:74|312:74|346:54,1,150,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
439,64,193629,2,0,P|452:111|439:158,1,100,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
389,240,194323,6,0,P|376:287|390:334,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
339,338,194843,2,0,B|294:322|294:322|237:329|237:329|195:314,1,150,4|0,2:0|0:0,2:0:0:0:
95,328,195710,2,2,L|40:332,2,50,2|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
81,228,196404,2,2,L|25:223,2,50,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,215,197097,6,0,P|227:228|275:215,1,100,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
343,140,197791,2,0,P|390:127|438:140,1,100,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
479,168,198311,2,0,B|479:212|479:212|453:263|453:263|453:312,1,150,2|0,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
354,328,199178,1,0,0:0:0:0:
254,340,199525,2,0,L|248:278,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
242,240,199872,2,0,B|179:167|106:275|50:196,1,200,4|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
201,65,201259,6,0,P|249:52|297:65,1,100,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
333,81,201779,2,0,P|380:93|428:80,1,100,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
474,60,202299,1,2,0:0:0:0:
499,167,202646,6,0,P|491:216|460:255,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
365,287,203340,2,0,P|316:281|276:250,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
244,212,203860,2,0,B|195:221|195:221|140:204|140:204|96:212,1,150,2|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
10,259,204727,2,0,P|-4:212|9:164,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
83,96,205421,6,0,P|130:83|178:97,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
223,118,205941,2,0,B|265:133|265:133|322:126|322:126|367:142,1,150,2|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
459,180,206808,2,0,L|507:199,2,50,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
381,243,207502,2,0,L|334:225,2,50,0|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
427,332,208196,6,0,P|380:345|328:328,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
242,287,208889,2,0,P|195:275|147:287,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,266,209409,2,0,B|99:217|99:217|125:166|125:166|126:122,1,150,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,72,210276,1,2,0:0:0:0:
332,72,210623,2,0,L|380:120,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,159,210970,6,0,B|348:204|348:204|355:261|355:261|340:303,1,150,4|0,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
320,349,211664,1,0,0:0:0:0:
216,356,212015,2,0,L|148:352,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,306,212357,2,0,P|131:258|144:210,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
167,165,212877,2,0,P|180:117|164:60,1,100,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,25,213398,1,8,0:0:0:0:
54,68,213745,6,0,P|41:117|53:165,1,100,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
113,243,214438,2,0,P|161:257|209:245,1,100,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
279,177,215132,2,0,P|309:243|280:314,2,150,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
219,98,216519,1,4,0:0:0:0:
131,49,216866,6,0,P|119:98|131:146,2,100,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
219,98,217907,2,0,P|247:165|218:232,2,150,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
131,49,219294,1,4,0:0:0:0:
52,111,219641,6,0,P|39:160|52:207,1,100,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
86,250,220161,1,2,0:0:0:0:
156,321,220508,2,0,B|201:337|201:337|258:330|258:330|300:345,1,150,4|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
351,345,221201,2,0,P|363:296|351:249,2,100,8|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,222069,12,0,223456,0:0:0:0:
256,208,224149,6,0,L|256:136,2,50,8|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,224670,12,4,227618,0:0:0:0:
56,84,228311,6,0,P|103:71|151:84,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,144,229005,2,0,P|279:157|327:145,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,124,229525,2,0,L|381:227,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
385,273,230045,1,8,0:0:0:0:
393,372,230392,2,0,P|346:385|298:373,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
211,321,231086,2,0,P|163:308|115:321,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
26,366,231780,2,0,P|12:318|25:270,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
55,231,232300,2,0,B|81:188|81:188|90:102,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
119,101,232820,1,8,0:0:0:0:
227,104,233167,6,0,P|274:116|322:103,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
415,65,233860,1,8,0:0:0:0:
479,141,234207,1,8,0:0:0:0:
427,226,234554,2,0,P|414:273|427:321,2,100,12|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
479,141,235595,1,8,0:0:0:0:
386,102,235941,6,0,P|338:89|290:102,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
198,141,236634,1,8,0:0:0:0:
134,65,236981,1,8,0:0:0:0:
83,151,237328,2,0,P|70:198|83:246,2,100,12|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
135,66,238369,1,8,0:0:0:0:
227,103,238716,6,0,P|274:115|322:102,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
415,64,239409,1,8,0:0:0:0:
479,140,239756,1,8,0:0:0:0:
427,225,240103,2,0,P|414:272|427:320,1,100,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
338,367,240797,2,8,P|302:332|254:319,1,100
163,361,241491,6,0,P|150:313|163:265,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
254,223,242184,1,8,0:0:0:0:
347,186,242531,1,8,0:0:0:0:
440,150,242878,2,0,L|445:209,1,50,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
326,292,243571,2,0,L|320:351,1,50,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,244785,12,4,248080,0:0:0:0:
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Yo, NM from #modreqs

These are only minor aesthetics things, but here you go

  • Hard
  1. 02:45:537 (5,6) - improve blanket :v http://puu.sh/tzdNV/ed7aa083e0.jpg
  2. 03:02:184 (6,7) - ^ http://puu.sh/tzdPT/f7d51cc983.jpg
  3. 03:04:959 (5) - spacing between sliders is unconsistant
  4. 03:07:040 (4,7) - i dont like this overlap :v
  5. 03:26:808 (5,6) -improve blanket :v http://puu.sh/tze1g/f7ab211243.jpg
  6. 03:28:889 (3,4,5) - these are a bit off too
  7. 03:44:149 (6,7) - ^
  8. imo your combos are too long :v For example there: 03:53:167 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 03:55:941 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i would start nc on upbeats here 03:54:554 (5) - 03:57:329 (5) - 04:00:103 (6) -


I couldn't find more. Nice map, GL!
posted

Blan_C wrote:

Yo, NM from #modreqs

These are only minor aesthetics things, but here you go

  • Hard
  1. 02:45:537 (5,6) - improve blanket :v http://puu.sh/tzdNV/ed7aa083e0.jpg current one is ok
  2. 03:02:184 (6,7) - ^ http://puu.sh/tzdPT/f7d51cc983.jpg ^
  3. 03:04:959 (5) - spacing between sliders is unconsistant looks consistent by me
  4. 03:07:040 (4,7) - i dont like this overlap :v ok boi
  5. 03:26:808 (5,6) -improve blanket :v http://puu.sh/tze1g/f7ab211243.jpg current blanket is ok
  6. 03:28:889 (3,4,5) - these are a bit off too didnt get any complains from this before tbh, so nah
  7. 03:44:149 (6,7) - ^ nah
  8. imo your combos are too long :v For example there: 03:53:167 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 03:55:941 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i would start nc on upbeats here 03:54:554 (5) - 03:57:329 (5) - 04:00:103 (6) - I NC on the kiai, which is better if you ask me


I couldn't find more. Nice map, GL!
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Heyoo

[Newton]
First of all, check AiMod, there are a few unsnaps

00:39:294 (2,3,4) - One (2), you are following the snares, but not on (3,4). Intended?
01:04:611 (2,3) - (3) should start on the red tick (current end of (2)) to follwo the song better
02:02:531 (1,2,3) - Same as first
02:36:173 (2) - OFFSCREEN
03:48:311 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Consider adding a NC, the combo is getting quite long here


[Hard]
00:35:479 (5,7) - Drum hitclap?
02:00:623 (3,4) - This is a huge jump, despite the fact that (3) should be emphasized more (snares)
03:14:323 (6) - Nc for emphasis
03:19:872 (3) - ^^
03:53:167 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I think it's better to NC at every kiai fountain (4 sliders) as opposed to every 2, but it's up to you

[Sc4]
00:24:381 (3,4,5) - Why does (4,5) have a higher spacing than (3,4) despite being muss less strong?

[Wally]
I only have one main concern, and I really don't know what to do with it. The final kiai is completely overdone. It's a ridiculous diff spike and kinda ruins the difficulty. If the jumps were stacks it would've been fine, but where does the the emphasis on the red ticks come from? There is no sound there, so it's really weird as to why the spacing is so high, right? Please remake them into stacks.
P.S. I'm gathering more opinions about this since I'm so unsure
Once more people tell me stuff I'll decide on whether or not this should be pushed forward



The other diffs are nice tho, just as the start of Wally's diff. Just fix the end and it's ready to go!
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HERE WE GO BOIS


Bara- wrote:

Heyoo

[Hard]
00:35:479 (5,7) - Drum hitclap? I think the red tick hitsound suits more, I mean look at eIness TV Size, he put snare on red tick
02:00:623 (3,4) - This is a huge jump, despite the fact that (3) should be emphasized more (snares) reduced spacing
03:14:323 (6) - Nc for emphasis NCed
03:19:872 (3) - ^^ sure :^)
03:53:167 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I think it's better to NC at every kiai fountain (4 sliders) as opposed to every 2, but it's up to you since it's you, I'll NC :^)

[Sc4]
00:24:381 (3,4,5) - Why does (4,5) have a higher spacing than (3,4) despite being muss less strong? Sc4 asked me to move so i think fix

The other diffs are nice tho, just as the start of Wally's diff. Just fix the end and it's ready to go!
posted

Bara- wrote:

Heyoo

[Wally]
I only have one main concern, and I really don't know what to do with it. The final kiai is completely overdone. It's a ridiculous diff spike and kinda ruins the difficulty. If the jumps were stacks it would've been fine, but where does the the emphasis on the red ticks come from? There is no sound there, so it's really weird as to why the spacing is so high, right? Please remake them into stacks.
P.S. I'm gathering more opinions about this since I'm so unsure
Once more people tell me stuff I'll decide on whether or not this should be pushed forward



Yes I see what you mean about the red tick, altho the DS of the jump I find just fine ( Some of the jump before are big ), Changed the jump so (1,2) is a stack and (2,1) will be a jump to emphasize the beat on (1) Hopefully, I did it the right way to emphasize it better. My main concern about stacking this is it leave a lot of room on the screen although Underdogs said its fine, as long it is consistent, so yeah... changed
The other diffs are nice tho, just as the start of Wally's diff. Just fix the end and it's ready to go!
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posted
im apparently late

Bara- wrote:

Heyoo

[Newton]
First of all, check AiMod, there are a few unsnaps oops, fixed

00:39:294 (2,3,4) - One (2), you are following the snares, but not on (3,4). Intended? following vocals here
01:04:611 (2,3) - (3) should start on the red tick (current end of (2)) to follwo the song better yeah done
02:02:531 (1,2,3) - Same as first same as first
02:36:173 (2) - OFFSCREEN oh no
03:48:311 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Consider adding a NC, the combo is getting quite long here also done
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298,142,108311,6,0,P|365:112|433:141,2,150,4|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
233,218,109699,2,0,P|219:265|232:313,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
140,274,110392,2,0,P|93:261|45:273,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
78,178,111086,2,0,P|91:130|77:82,2,100,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
8,249,112126,6,0,P|74:279|144:256,1,150,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
218,183,112993,1,2,0:0:0:0:
289,109,113340,2,0,P|336:96|384:108,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
423,140,113860,6,0,P|453:207|424:275,2,150,0|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,207,115248,2,0,P|318:274|347:342,2,150,4|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,116635,12,0,118716,0:0:0:0:
256,92,119410,5,4,0:0:0:0:
257,192,119756,2,0,P|304:205|352:193,2,100,0|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
212,172,120623,2,0,B|168:164|168:164|113:181|113:181|65:173,1,150,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
72,272,121491,2,0,B|120:280|120:280|175:263|175:263,1,100,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
265,232,122184,1,4,0:0:0:0:
358,271,122531,6,0,P|405:284|453:272,2,100,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
358,221,123398,2,0,P|386:154|356:88,1,150,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,76,124092,2,0,B|264:68|264:68|209:85|209:85|161:77,1,150,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
266,169,124959,6,0,B|281:218|281:218|273:266,2,100,4|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
186,230,125999,1,8,0:0:0:0:
93,227,126346,2,0,P|80:180|92:132,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
110,85,126866,2,0,B|158:93|158:93|213:76|213:76|257:84,1,150,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
274,182,127733,6,0,B|223:175|223:175|177:191,2,100,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,224,128774,1,8,0:0:0:0:
475,205,129121,2,0,B|483:157|483:157|467:108,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
445,62,129641,2,0,B|397:54|397:54|342:71|342:71|298:63,1,150,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
201,38,130508,6,0,B|193:86|193:86|210:141,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
307,181,131201,2,0,B|322:231|322:231|314:279,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,326,131722,2,0,P|252:340|204:327,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
123,270,132415,2,0,P|135:223|121:175,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
91,135,132936,1,0,0:0:0:0:
127,42,133282,6,8,L|230:32,1,100
286,115,133976,2,8,L|182:124,1,100
91,135,134670,6,0,P|63:202|93:268,1,150,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,296,135363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,344,135710,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,316,136057,6,0,P|333:269|320:221,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,132,136751,2,0,L|172:141,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,148,137271,2,0,B|127:197|127:197|153:248|153:248|154:292,1,150,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,352,138138,2,0,P|279:366|327:353,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,284,138832,6,0,P|413:237|399:189,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,148,139352,2,0,B|326:133|326:133|269:140|269:140|224:124,1,150,2|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
128,91,140219,2,2,L|76:73,2,50,0|0|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
149,188,140912,2,2,L|201:206,2,50,0|8|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
50,168,141606,6,0,P|37:215|50:263,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
125,329,142300,2,0,P|172:341|220:328,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
265,306,142820,2,0,B|309:306|309:306|360:280|360:280|409:280,1,150,2|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
459,193,143687,1,2,0:0:0:0:
505,106,144034,2,0,L|501:51,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,7,144381,6,0,B|422:-54|369:65|300:-3,1,200,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
393,182,145768,6,0,P|345:169|297:182,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
251,202,146288,2,0,P|204:214|156:201,1,100
109,180,146808,1,0,0:0:0:0:
16,140,147155,6,0,L|25:243,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
35,349,147849,2,0,P|84:343|124:312,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,290,148369,2,0,B|217:299|217:299|272:282|272:282|316:290,1,150,2|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
422,308,149236,2,0,P|436:261|423:213,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
359,122,149930,6,0,L|258:104,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
211,104,150450,2,0,B|228:200|228:200|284:256,1,150,2|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
312,328,151317,2,2,L|263:332,2,50,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,248,152011,2,2,L|422:244,2,50,0|8|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,241,152704,6,0,L|172:232,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
74,211,153398,2,0,P|62:164|74:116,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
93,68,153918,2,0,B|142:67|142:67|193:93|193:93|237:94,1,150,2|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
329,56,154785,1,2,0:0:0:0:
421,93,155132,2,0,L|417:148,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,188,155479,6,0,B|444:233|444:233|437:290|437:290|452:332,1,150,0|2,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
404,348,156173,2,0,P|338:365|254:330,1,150,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
217,318,156866,2,0,P|169:305|121:318,1,100,12|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
72,305,157386,2,0,P|60:257|73:209,1,100,12|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
110,175,157907,1,8,0:0:0:0:
209,152,158254,6,0,P|229:198|268:229,1,100,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
356,272,158947,2,0,P|325:312|280:330,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
179,330,159641,2,0,P|111:301|44:330,2,150,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,329,161028,5,4,0:0:0:0:
380,328,161375,2,0,P|391:280|379:230,2,100,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,274,162415,2,0,P|266:208|293:141,2,150,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,206,163803,1,4,0:0:0:0:
456,154,164149,6,0,P|469:202|457:250,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
437,296,164670,1,2,0:0:0:0:
346,337,165017,2,0,B|301:353|301:353|244:346|244:346|202:361,1,150,2|2,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
167,326,165710,2,0,P|155:277|167:230,1,100,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,166404,12,4,167964,0:0:0:0:
256,172,168658,6,0,L|256:232,2,50,8|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,169178,12,4,173514,0:0:0:0:
353,191,191548,6,0,P|306:178|258:191,1,100,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,237,192242,2,0,P|156:189|169:142,1,100,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
199,102,192762,2,0,B|248:74|312:74|312:74|346:54,1,150,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
439,64,193629,2,0,P|452:111|439:158,1,100,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
389,240,194323,6,0,P|376:287|390:334,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
339,338,194843,2,0,B|294:322|294:322|237:329|237:329|195:314,1,150,4|0,2:0|0:0,2:0:0:0:
95,328,195710,2,2,L|40:332,2,50,2|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
81,228,196404,2,2,L|25:223,2,50,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,215,197097,6,0,P|227:228|275:215,1,100,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
343,140,197791,2,0,P|390:127|438:140,1,100,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
479,168,198311,2,0,B|479:212|479:212|453:263|453:263|453:312,1,150,2|0,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
354,328,199178,1,0,0:0:0:0:
254,340,199525,2,0,L|248:278,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
242,240,199872,2,0,B|179:167|106:275|50:196,1,200,4|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
201,65,201259,6,0,P|249:52|297:65,1,100,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
333,81,201779,2,0,P|380:93|428:80,1,100,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
474,60,202299,1,2,0:0:0:0:
499,167,202646,6,0,P|491:216|460:255,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
365,287,203340,2,0,P|316:281|276:250,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
244,212,203860,2,0,B|195:221|195:221|140:204|140:204|96:212,1,150,2|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
10,259,204727,2,0,P|-4:212|9:164,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
83,96,205421,6,0,P|130:83|178:97,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
223,118,205941,2,0,B|265:133|265:133|322:126|322:126|367:142,1,150,2|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
459,180,206808,2,0,L|507:199,2,50,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
381,243,207502,2,0,L|334:225,2,50,0|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
427,332,208196,6,0,P|380:345|328:328,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
242,287,208889,2,0,P|195:275|147:287,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,266,209409,2,0,B|99:217|99:217|125:166|125:166|126:122,1,150,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,72,210276,1,2,0:0:0:0:
332,72,210623,2,0,L|380:120,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,159,210970,6,0,B|348:204|348:204|355:261|355:261|340:303,1,150,4|0,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
320,349,211664,1,0,0:0:0:0:
216,356,212015,2,0,L|148:352,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,306,212357,2,0,P|131:258|144:210,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
167,165,212877,2,0,P|180:117|164:60,1,100,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,25,213398,1,8,0:0:0:0:
54,68,213745,6,0,P|41:117|53:165,1,100,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
113,243,214438,2,0,P|161:257|209:245,1,100,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
279,177,215132,2,0,P|309:243|280:314,2,150,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
219,98,216519,1,4,0:0:0:0:
131,49,216866,6,0,P|119:98|131:146,2,100,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
219,98,217907,2,0,P|247:165|218:232,2,150,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
131,49,219294,1,4,0:0:0:0:
52,111,219641,6,0,P|39:160|52:207,1,100,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
86,250,220161,1,2,0:0:0:0:
156,321,220508,2,0,B|201:337|201:337|258:330|258:330|300:345,1,150,4|8,2:0|2:0,2:0:0:0:
351,345,221201,2,0,P|363:296|351:249,2,100,8|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,222069,12,0,223456,0:0:0:0:
256,208,224149,6,0,L|256:136,2,50,8|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,224670,12,4,227618,0:0:0:0:
56,84,228311,6,0,P|103:71|151:84,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,144,229005,2,0,P|279:157|327:145,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,124,229525,2,0,L|381:227,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
385,273,230045,1,8,0:0:0:0:
393,372,230392,6,0,P|346:385|298:373,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
211,321,231086,2,0,P|163:308|115:321,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
26,366,231780,2,0,P|12:318|25:270,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
55,231,232300,2,0,B|81:188|81:188|90:102,1,100,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
119,101,232820,1,8,0:0:0:0:
227,104,233167,6,0,P|274:116|322:103,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
415,65,233860,1,8,0:0:0:0:
479,141,234207,1,8,0:0:0:0:
427,226,234554,2,0,P|414:273|427:321,2,100,12|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
479,141,235595,1,8,0:0:0:0:
386,102,235941,6,0,P|338:89|290:102,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
198,141,236634,1,8,0:0:0:0:
134,65,236981,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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135,66,238369,1,8,0:0:0:0:
227,103,238716,6,0,P|274:115|322:102,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
415,64,239409,1,8,0:0:0:0:
479,140,239756,1,8,0:0:0:0:
427,225,240103,2,0,P|414:272|427:320,1,100,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
338,367,240797,2,8,P|302:332|254:319,1,100
163,361,241491,6,0,P|150:313|163:265,1,100,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
254,223,242184,1,8,0:0:0:0:
347,186,242531,1,8,0:0:0:0:
440,150,242878,2,0,L|445:209,1,50,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
326,292,243571,2,0,L|320:351,1,50,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,244785,12,4,248080,0:0:0:0:

underdogs if there are still snap errors fix them for me thx
thanks for modding! and hopefully bubbling
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oo nice~
can't wait to see dis map wit nozomi babi in the center to be ranked >< spiritual powa!1 8-)
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snow hala ranked soon bois
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Discussed a few patterns/NC/Hitsounds
It should be ready to go!
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Help him
His keyboard froze 🙀
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congratz on bubble. go spam modreqs for qualify now.
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woah nice
qualify when
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Alright... first, let me state objectively why I believe this is not good enough.
What I have here is simply spacing inconsistencies that makes reading on the Expert and Hard too difficult and not intuitive (above all the Hard where you're not supposed to do so):

Expert:
  1. 03:29:930 (1,2) - this is a normal 1/1 snap, yet I see the same exact visual spacing for 03:32:358 (3,1) - , but this time it is a 1/2 snap. Since it is a particular pattern (at least visually) I expect it to stand out everywhere the same way, not "here like this" "there like that"
    Oh, right, let's add a 1/4 snap too, shall we: 03:33:745 (5,1) - :p See how things change immediately with 03:34:092 (1,1) -
    Idk, is this a challenge to see if the player can keep up with the reading challenge? lol
  2. 03:40:681 (1,2,3) - yeah... objects being in the same combo but spacing is a bit inconsistent too
  3. 03:58:369 (2,1) - I would probably misread this as a 1/4 snap tbh, or something else, because just not long ago I had to play 03:49:352 (3,1) - which again messes up with the player's reading
  4. Other places I should mention with the same problem I suppose: 01:10:161 (3,4) - 01:33:398 (3,4) - 02:00:623 (4,5,1) - 02:02:184 (1,2) -
  5. 03:14:323 (1,3) - on a side note: what's with the SV change here? .-.


The problematic snaps are usually the 1/2, since if we have a 1/4 you can usually go by instinct and click faster while if it's a 1/1 you have time to read it properly. With 1/2 snaps this doesn't happen since it's neither so fast to react with reflexes, nor so slow to let me judge the snap properly.
Please try to respect the distance = snap rule in these places.


Hard:
  1. Can you try to make the distance between 00:23:860 (2,3) - and 00:24:554 (4,5) - to respect DS? It's a bit misleading for this level (and partly also ugly seeing that random spacing tbh)
  2. 01:57:675 (2,3,4,5) - imo the song's intensity doesn't warrant for such a spacing decrease. As I perceive this, the part here is more or less the same as 01:55:248 (5,6,7) - so it isn't natural to have such long snaps with such short spacing.
    In fact, if we listen better, 01:57:675 (2,3,4,5) - this feels like a build-up to me, so if ever, you'd increase spacing and not decrease it to make proper expression of the song
  3. 02:08:947 (4,5) - nice x3.09 jump here, but it might be a bit too much to use these jumps on a Hard imo
  4. 02:21:606 (1,2,3) - big spacing inconsistency between these objects: you're visually presenting different snaps with the same visual spacing. That's not good, above all on medium-lower diffs
  5. 02:30:970 (8,1) - apart from another x3.00 jump here, how is the player supposed to react to such spacing when you just did 02:25:768 (5,6) - ? Not respecting the rule distance = snap is costing you a lot of the map's readability here (the fact the first slider is not even pointing towards the second one makes it even a bit more complicate since you're forcing an unnatural flow)
  6. 03:04:438 (4,5,6) - ok, this is really minor and it shouldn't be here I guess, but that x0.07 DS difference is noticeable in gameplay and it shows that you placed your objects sloppily. Not trying to be harsh, but this looks unclean and not so "professional" for a supposedly "ready mapset"
  7. 03:13:282 (5,1,2) - hi spacing, we meet again. Jokes aside, I mentioned this early and you should be able to see it yourself now anyway
  8. 03:16:404 (4,5,1) - I """might""" agree on this sort of spacing since it looks sort of natural or intuitive, but I've been playing a lot of hard stuff so it might be I'm biased by my experience
  9. 03:21:259 (1,2,3,4,5) - jackpot, you here managed to keep screwing with DS as you pleased, I see. LOL
    I mean, it is not such a big deal for this pattern alone I suppose, since it might be understandable after a couple of tries, but my main concern is how the whole map is affected by this: why is this part like this? Why isn't this stuff appearing anywhere else in the map?
    If I ask myself those questions and I try to answer I come to the conclusion you just mapped things on the go, without thinking about it twice (and that's bad)
  10. 03:33:745 (1,2,3) - I mentioned this already twice above ^
  11. 03:38:600 (7,1,2) - four times with this
  12. 03:44:843 (1,2,3) - is this a feature of the map... ? After so many points where this happens I started thinking if I'm the one being drunk here or something... It is consistent but it ruins reading so badly D: (well, by consistent I mean that it appears a lot of times, not that it actually appears always on the same rhythm with the same rules, which is not great in any case)
  13. 04:01:491 (1,2,3) - ^


Now... why would I mention all this stuff, you might ask me.
I consider reading as an important part of the gameplay and as such it has its own priority, above all on lower diffs. As for the expert we could call it a "reading challenge" but considering the map's style (which is rather simple and straightforward) I don't believe in such a thing in this case, but on the Hard you aren't supposed to test the player's reading yet imo. They still need to get a good rhythm to tap frequently and you're asking them to focus on something else too in the meantime? (reading)

This all adds up to the map's complexity so overall these parts might increase the general difficulty of the map (on the Hard it DOES increase difficulty needlessly)


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Now, let's mention some more personal reasons I would pop this anyway, even without an objective reason such as spacing inconsistencies:

  1. first one is a little minor, but it is still important: the comboing (how you place NCs) on Expert is completely wrecked:
    NCs are supposed to give the player a hint on how the musical stanzas are progressing or when they switch. It is true that with time things changed a bit and we started using them to signal sudden changes in the rhythm such as SV changes or to identify new patterns, but seeing stuff like 00:18:832 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - just doesn't tell me nothing. In fact, it tells me you didn't pay attention to the map or your structure is non-existent (I'll let you decide which, but I know the answer :p)
  2. Structure, on more or less every diff, is lacking. Greatly.
    By structure we refer to how each object in a single pattern links to the other objects in the same combo or how slider shapes put together form a meaningful concept or not (like a geometric figure or something easily recognizable).
    In particular Sc4v4ng3r's diff is the most affected by this, but the other diffs aren't far off either.
    Structure is like drawing. Each object is linked to the others via some sort of meaning, which is usually a shape we can easily identify with our brain (circles, lines, squares, any geometric figure, etc). Once I put together the links our objects have we'll notice if the drawing we have makes sense or not, and how:
    • on Sc4v4ng3r's :
    1. 02:35:479 (1,2,3,4) -
      Per se this combo has no special meaning: the orange circle is not linked to any other object as you can see; the purple lines are crossing only in the upper left corner at a strange angle which doesn't tell us much; the pink liones are simply constant DS, but if you put them together you can't notice any bigger shape, which is again not so good
    2. 01:10:682 (1,2,3,4,5) -
      something similar here: the orange circle is not used anywhere else; the purple lines seem to be corssing each other in the same spot as before, but this time their angle is different, so it's inconsistent; the pink zig zag movement is not even done at the same angle in this case, which doesn't look so good

    on sullywally's:
    1. 00:27:849 (1,2,3,4) -
      it may be a little clustered but we can work with it: the orange circle is not used anywhere else (the point where it coresse with the long slider's tail doesn't count since with the current AR you don't see it); the purple lines are perpendicular, which is good, but the fact that 3 is not in line with the vertical purple line makes it looks messy, so it's not a good thing anyway; the cyan circle is not used with any other object either, so once again no good
    2. 03:16:751 (4,1,1,2,1) -
      this was actually going to be good, but check this out: purple lines are almost similar, which gives a good impression here; the pink line is a bit awkward, which is minus; the fact our cyan oval is crossing with the purple lines perfectly that way is a really big plus, but the fact our red lines (visual spacing) are not the same between those objects, it actually gives off a bad impression once again

    on Hard:
    1. 00:01:491 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
      ok, so... : the purple lines don't seem to cross in any particular way here, which is not good; the orange circle is not being used by anything else so it's not good either; the red lines connecting the whole combo seem to have a similar angle (which is also flipped) across the whole combo, so it's good but the fact the green lines aren't equally long makes it look messy anyway
    2. 01:18:138 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
      in this case we have: how the purple lines keep a sort of parallelism is really good; the cyan circle seems to be used by other two objects here, but the way it does feels a bit random since they don't connect precisely to some spots of the circle; the biggest problem is how you break the visual spacing where I put the two red lines, you were supposed to keep that distance equal to the others to make it look better; if you take the pink line you notice how 4 and 6 are slightly off, and that's not good for structure either

Structure is strongly connected to how our eyes perceive forms. Think of the map as a painting, and you're drawing on it: based on the lines you draw you might create a masterpiece or just a doodle.
Here's an example I made for my mentees not long ago to teach them this same concept:


The starting point was that the jump on 7 should have been the strongest in the combo since the rhythm of the song asked for it but my mentee mostly did random jumps for this part, so I tried to make something up and explain it.
I'll write here what I wrote for him too.

The premise is that I try to create as many links as I can between each single object in the combo:

The starting point is at the bottom, as we know.
From there I initiate a first piece of structure: the orange line. (we still have no structure at all here)
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Next is 4
In this case I'm still not building much yet, but I'm initiating the first green line, which will later be useful as you'll see
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On 5 I return back on the orange line and something is starting to build into my mind, since I notice that it is connected to the first object.
Meanwhile I quickly end the first green line, so I put down a little piece of structure I can re-use if necessary.
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With 6 I set up the preparation for the second green line, initialize the cyan combo and start hinting at the big red structure, although it is not clear yet.
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Once on 7 you complete the second green line, which is a big bonus since those lines clearly have the same angle, just flipped + you finally close the red structure AND the orange line you started at first.
At this point your vision already has a huge amount of references and links between objects: the orange line, the red structure and even the 2 green lines
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We finally close the pattern with 8 where we finally realize how 6 and 8 are literally mirrored if we consider the line between 4-7 as the mirror line (we also kept the same visual distance we used between the orange structure's objects)
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To top it off, we started the pattern with a triplet in the bottom right corner of the pattern and ended up with another triplet in the top left corner of it (which is a gigantic symmetry once again + strong rhythm reason)

With curvy stuff things get a bit more complex but the concept is always the same: get as many reasons to make an object stay where it is

Structure here is a really big problem and I'm honestly not inclined to allow such thing to pass.apart from the fact the current Ranking Criteria allows to do so, I find that mapping only the Hard and then asking for other 3 GDs is a bit too lazy, even for nowadays' standards: at least map the highest diff yourself or map more diffs D:
I mean... alright, it might be you're not expert with the highest diff and I can accept that, but why asking for a normal GD?
Was the song too long to map more than one diff? If that's the case I believe you should try mapping something shorter if you plan on using your name on a mapset that has the same amount of effort of any other GDer in it imo.
The mapset is yours, yet 3/4 of it wasn't even your work. Does it look fair to you? Spoiler: it doesn't look so for me.


I originally planned to add a mod on the whole mapset too to fix other things but this first part became longer than expected and I should really get some sleep.
I'm open for further discussion regarding the map, obviously, but trust me that a few mods won't fix these problems (at least not the structure one, and as you can see all diffs are affected by that) so I suggest trying to map better some parts, if not everything

ah, both objective and subjective reasons of my pop should be addressed. Even if we ensure objective rankability I want to ensure quality too, so my subjective points should be taken into mind.
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MrSergio wrote:

  • on Sc4v4ng3r's :
  1. 02:35:479 (1,2,3,4) -
    Per se this combo has no special meaning: the orange circle is not linked to any other object as you can see; the purple lines are crossing only in the upper left corner at a strange angle which doesn't tell us much; the pink liones are simply constant DS, but if you put them together you can't notice any bigger shape, which is again not so good In a bigger picture however, the whole pattern does give an impression to the players that this is somewhat of a circular pattern - if you are only considering (4) and (3) solely you won't be seeing this. The purple lines you'd indicated... honestly doesn't really matter much to my mapping I think. I focus more on the flow of the patterns(and yes, that is done somewhat poorly and I am the one to be blamed) and the music's features than structure - I believe a good structure is from a good flowing pattern, indicating the song's prominent changes in their instruments or vocals, etc.. So 02:36:866 (1) - this is opposing the direction of 02:36:173 (3,4) - the flow made from these notes, just to indicate the vocal's become very strong here.
    But I do feel weird about the pink line thingi so I moved around my notes a little bit to add on to the circular feel.
  2. 01:10:682 (1,2,3,4,5) -
    something similar here: the orange circle is not used anywhere else; the purple lines seem to be corssing each other in the same spot as before, but this time their angle is different, so it's inconsistent; the pink zig zag movement is not even done at the same angle in this case, which doesn't look so good We are getting into the nitpicky zone aren't we? I mean, no offense, but the pink lines indicating the zig-zag movement does still give players an idea about the movement in general - it's a zig-zag movement. It's not like this zig-zag is way off to something like a right angle or something - the intention's still there. I don't like to force absolute geometric movement to my patterns because sometimes they can get very clunky and weird to play with. The note which makes the circular movement is there to make the flow go into (2) - which also makes a mirrored version of 01:10:161 (3) - this note which I think it's structurally feasible. Purple line's angle is different to give variation rather than inconsistent structure. I seriously don't like repeated structures, especially in a full-length song like this which can get quite repetitive(hence boring) - and the angle which 01:11:202 (2) - this comes out of is different so that it gives an anti-flow-feel when (1) is played - if I were to flip this vertically it would feel like I'm following the flow even by the slightest, which I don't too much - which could feel unnatural as a bigger portion of my patterns did use anti-flow as their main flow.
I'm certainly not experienced in standard mapping myself so the philosophies I have can be quite distorted or weird - but I do really feel that your style doesn't really match mine(I remember the time I tried to mod your map and got 99% rejected cause the style was too different), so I hope you can understand.
Thanks for the mod, I really appreciate it.
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