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vick
short irc of top diff

erogexar
2016-11-05 14:40 Xexxar: but what do you think of top diff
2016-11-05 14:40 Xexxar: btw*
2016-11-05 14:41 vick: 00:54:822 (1,2,3) -
2016-11-05 14:41 vick: this jump is weird
2016-11-05 14:42 vick: 01:09:561 (4) -
2016-11-05 14:42 vick: maybe you should curve that slider to the left ?
2016-11-05 14:42 vick: and the triple
2016-11-05 14:42 vick: 01:09:908 (5,6,1) -
2016-11-05 14:42 vick: 01:10:428 (3,4,5,6) - after this jump you have so little spacing to 01:11:122 (7) -
2016-11-05 14:42 Xexxar: hmm
2016-11-05 14:42 vick: feels weird too
2016-11-05 14:43 vick: 01:11:816 (2,3,4,5) - same as i said before, first you have a big jump and then with the same music you have a little jump
2016-11-05 14:43 vick: and imo 01:12:336 (4,5) - its more strong
2016-11-05 14:43 vick: i mean in the song
2016-11-05 14:43 vick: after that is nice
2016-11-05 14:44 vick: besides*
2016-11-05 14:44 vick: fuk my english
2016-11-05 14:44 Xexxar: hm
2016-11-05 14:44 Xexxar: what did you want me to do with the triplet
2016-11-05 14:45 vick: sec
2016-11-05 14:45 vick: i make a puush
2016-11-05 14:45 vick: http://puu.sh/s7tPe/dc2833c517.jpg
2016-11-05 14:45 vick: 5 is the triplet
2016-11-05 14:46 vick: and if you do that then make sure to move 01:10:428 (3) - down a bit
2016-11-05 14:57 Xexxar: tbh you could post that for kudosu
2016-11-05 14:57 Xexxar: that was helpful
Topic Starter
I Must Decrease

vick wrote:

short irc of top diff

erogexar
2016-11-05 14:40 Xexxar: but what do you think of top diff
2016-11-05 14:40 Xexxar: btw*
2016-11-05 14:41 vick: 00:54:822 (1,2,3) -
2016-11-05 14:41 vick: this jump is weird
2016-11-05 14:42 vick: 01:09:561 (4) -
2016-11-05 14:42 vick: maybe you should curve that slider to the left ?
2016-11-05 14:42 vick: and the triple
2016-11-05 14:42 vick: 01:09:908 (5,6,1) -
2016-11-05 14:42 vick: 01:10:428 (3,4,5,6) - after this jump you have so little spacing to 01:11:122 (7) -
2016-11-05 14:42 Xexxar: hmm
2016-11-05 14:42 vick: feels weird too
2016-11-05 14:43 vick: 01:11:816 (2,3,4,5) - same as i said before, first you have a big jump and then with the same music you have a little jump
2016-11-05 14:43 vick: and imo 01:12:336 (4,5) - its more strong
2016-11-05 14:43 vick: i mean in the song
2016-11-05 14:43 vick: after that is nice
2016-11-05 14:44 vick: besides*
2016-11-05 14:44 vick: fuk my english
2016-11-05 14:44 Xexxar: hm
2016-11-05 14:44 Xexxar: what did you want me to do with the triplet
2016-11-05 14:45 vick: sec
2016-11-05 14:45 vick: i make a puush
2016-11-05 14:45 vick: http://puu.sh/s7tPe/dc2833c517.jpg
2016-11-05 14:45 vick: 5 is the triplet
2016-11-05 14:46 vick: and if you do that then make sure to move 01:10:428 (3) - down a bit
2016-11-05 14:57 Xexxar: tbh you could post that for kudosu
2016-11-05 14:57 Xexxar: that was helpful
thank
Osuology
arranged m4m placeholder

Wow this bg

[General]
So tags are inconsistent lol, all diffs but the hardest have only Flip Flappers

and BG is 1920x1200, I think I remember they allow this now, but maybe I'm wrong, just making sure

[Pure Illusion]
00:17:712 (2,3) - Spacing between is weird, they have different spacing for the same 1/4. I know this map is kinda not based on distance a lot, but most of it is made easily readable, this messed me up while playing. But, I think it would be best to get testplays and see whether this is really worth changing or not.

00:35:226 (1) - Could look just a little nicer if it were an equilateral triangle with the previous combo's 8 and 9, http://prntscr.com/d3h473

00:35:920 (4,6) - Overlap here which I probably would recommend removing since it would be crazy to put these everywhere.

00:40:255 (2,3,4,5) - Using these 1/4 sliders makes this section seem important, since it's more stressful than just 1/2 hitcircles. However, there doesn't seem to be any good reason, that I can see, that makes this OK. You don't highlight this rhythm otherwise, (I know it's not really a consistent map, but structure is structure regardless of your map style) so either you should remove these 1/4 or make the others 1/4 also.

00:47:538 (3,4,5) - I know you wanted to convey the power but considering you're using stacks to convey rhythm here, you kinda trapped yourself into this. Triple stack maybe?

00:49:272 (1,2,3,4) - Would maybe be better if you went a little slower with the spacing? It's a buildup that goes through one measure slowly, so I would recommend doing the same for spacing if you want. If not, try using flow instead of spacing to build it up.

00:52:914 (1) - Why is this a NC? There's really nothing to support it, no follow point, and spacing cannot convey the rhythm since the map doesn't really use spacing to convey much.

00:53:434 (1,3) - This overlap is here, which is fine as long as it's an established aesthetic thing. You establish other aesthetics in the song, such as stream spacing and slider shape. So, I think you should also keep this throughout the section, as a middle downbeat 70% overlapping or so with the measure start. So for the next measure it would be like this: http://prntscr.com/d3h9wi
(combo is 00:54:822 (1,4) - so you can find it)

01:07:654 (2,3,4) - I think the 1/4 slider to circle stressed this better than a triple, if you want to keep triple tho, make bigger spacing with it.

01:18:232 (2,1) - Just because a measure starts doesn't mean there has to be a NC, NC makes for structure of patterns. Again as 00:52:741, it is not really supported by anything.

01:23:954 (1) - Perhaps place this in the middle of the star pattern? Could look nicer, but I see why you placed it to the side. Your call, really.

[Anxient's Insane (ayy it's mah boi)]
00:00:718 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe do something like this? http://prntscr.com/d3hm0n Could look a little better if they are parallel. It is a little troublesome to rearrange the hitobjects after this so eh
Also right here you have a timing line and green line that have conflicting values (volume namely). Make them the same, it's unrankable

00:27:423 (3) - Maybe make this 90 degrees from 2? looks like this: http://prntscr.com/d3hulf

00:29:157 (4,1) - Probably should avoid overlaps unless you're going to keep doing them throughout the section. I know this is a fairly unconsistent map on purpose, but considering how much it is based on aesthetics, I think you should either remove the overlap or continue it through the whole section here.

00:35:746 (2,3) - I'm guessing you manually stacked this inverted right? Just making sure

00:39:561 (1,2,3) - Don't know why you stopped mapping, considering you don't do the same with the others. 00:40:255 (3,1) - Space between these two should either be mapped or others should have same empty space.

01:06:960 (1) - NC? If you will keep this, then I think you should NC 01:08:348 (3) - this also.

01:09:648 (4,5,6,7,8) - Kinda overmapped tbh, I don't really see how this could be beneficial to the map in some way. It's not really conveyed in the music at all as far as I can hear, and I can't see any other reason behind it.

[Normal]
meh nothing

[Easy]
You're probably going to need some 1/2 in the chorus to help balance spread from easy to normal, considering how many 1/2 there is in the normal. BPM is fairly high I know, but just a few in the chorus will do I think.

00:34:012 (1) - offscreen in 4:3

That's about it! Good luck ;)
Venix
Hi
General:
  1. Turn off widescreen support on Easy, Normal and Insane diffs
  2. Inconsisent tags
  3. Comprese BG to 1920x1080, because 1920x1200 is unrankable
Easy:
  1. 00:17:712 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - I think you should avoid circle spam like this on easy, i prefer try remake part of it for sliders
  2. 00:26:035 - I can't understand this break. You can place notes here, rythm here is like this ^
  3. 01:02:452 (2,3) - This flow is uncomfortable for beginners, for better flow i prefer rotate it by 180°.
Overall: I think this easy diff need work with making it easier!

Akitoshi's Normal:
  1. 00:19:446 (5,1,2) - Please try to avoid flows like this in normal. Linear flows are hard to read, mby try make it like this? ↓
  2. 01:25:168 (5) - I think this circle should have NC, because here music is more empasised
Overall: Good normal!

Anxient's Insane
  1. 00:00:795 - Two stacked timing points with diffrent volumes can't be rankable.
  2. 00:21:180 (3,1) - I think distance before this two notes should be higher, because it not fit strange of 00:21:353 (1) - this 1/2.
  3. 00:35:746 (2,3) - This double 1/2 should be stacked for make logic composition with 00:33:319 (3,4) - and 00:38:521 (2,3).
  4. 00:44:764 (3) - Hit here Ctrl+G, because flow before 00:44:533 (2,3) - this 1/3's is very unconfortable
Overall: Oryginal diff!

Pure Illusion:
  1. 00:17:712 (2,3,4) - This distance snap haven't logic. Please make spacing before 00:17:712 (2,3) - the same with 00:17:972 (3,4) - for better look and more readable pattern.
  2. 00:20:486 (2,3,4) - ^
  3. 00:29:157 (3,4,5) - Flow before 4 and 5 is hard to read. I prefer move 5 to x:173 y:93, it will be make better flow with 4 and with next slider.
  4. 01:23:434 (8,9) - This flow is uncomfortable. I prefer hit Ctrl+G, make it like this will make better flow.
Overall: Good Expert diff!

Normal Suggestion
Strong Suggestion
Unrankable


~GL!
cedar
There's not really anything specific I saw that needed fixing, although I only looked at the top dif. Aside from the tags, which other people have mentioned, I'd say the only things I noticed were A: lots of sliders that were perfectly vertical or horizontal, which imo don't look great, and B: in the less intense parts, it seemed like the majority of the movement was more vertical, with most of the large horizontal movement being only in the intense sections. probably no kudos for this, idc really. Good luck getting it ranked :)
Topic Starter
I Must Decrease

Osuology wrote:

arranged m4m placeholder

Wow this bg

[General]
So tags are inconsistent lol, all diffs but the hardest have only Flip Flappers

and BG is 1920x1200, I think I remember they allow this now, but maybe I'm wrong, just making sure

[Pure Illusion]
00:17:712 (2,3) - Spacing between is weird, they have different spacing for the same 1/4. I know this map is kinda not based on distance a lot, but most of it is made easily readable, this messed me up while playing. But, I think it would be best to get testplays and see whether this is really worth changing or not. this is plenty readable.

00:35:226 (1) - Could look just a little nicer if it were an equilateral triangle with the previous combo's 8 and 9, http://prntscr.com/d3h473 i think this is fine the way it is.

00:35:920 (4,6) - Overlap here which I probably would recommend removing since it would be crazy to put these everywhere. ? they arent overlapped.

00:40:255 (2,3,4,5) - Using these 1/4 sliders makes this section seem important, since it's more stressful than just 1/2 hitcircles. However, there doesn't seem to be any good reason, that I can see, that makes this OK. You don't highlight this rhythm otherwise, (I know it's not really a consistent map, but structure is structure regardless of your map style) so either you should remove these 1/4 or make the others 1/4 also. this section is 1/4 sliders due to the bass that is present in the back track. This makes it different than the other rhythms similar to this one because the other ones still have those 1/2 vocals but don't have the bass presense. This makes the parts better distinguishable.

00:47:538 (3,4,5) - I know you wanted to convey the power but considering you're using stacks to convey rhythm here, you kinda trapped yourself into this. Triple stack maybe? i dont see your intention with triple stacking.

00:49:272 (1,2,3,4) - Would maybe be better if you went a little slower with the spacing? It's a buildup that goes through one measure slowly, so I would recommend doing the same for spacing if you want. If not, try using flow instead of spacing to build it up. the build up being this high makes the following jumps more logical and approachable compared to small into really big (since it's a star pattern i want i have to build up to the star's intensity.

00:52:914 (1) - Why is this a NC? There's really nothing to support it, no follow point, and spacing cannot convey the rhythm since the map doesn't really use spacing to convey much. fixed

00:53:434 (1,3) - This overlap is here, which is fine as long as it's an established aesthetic thing. You establish other aesthetics in the song, such as stream spacing and slider shape. So, I think you should also keep this throughout the section, as a middle downbeat 70% overlapping or so with the measure start. So for the next measure it would be like this: http://prntscr.com/d3h9wi
(combo is 00:54:822 (1,4) - so you can find it) I think this is fine as is. the overlapping is on the end of the slider body and just serves as visual justification for that note. there are a couple other instances where i could do this tho, so i might consider altering other downbeat patterns like this. not sure tho since thats alot of restructuring.

01:07:654 (2,3,4) - I think the 1/4 slider to circle stressed this better than a triple, if you want to keep triple tho, make bigger spacing with it. applied

01:18:232 (2,1) - Just because a measure starts doesn't mean there has to be a NC, NC makes for structure of patterns. Again as 00:52:741, it is not really supported by anything. nc for introduction of of the other instruments (only vocals to everything)

01:23:954 (1) - Perhaps place this in the middle of the star pattern? Could look nicer, but I see why you placed it to the side. Your call, really. adjusted a bit but not to center.

[Easy]
You're probably going to need some 1/2 in the chorus to help balance spread from easy to normal, considering how many 1/2 there is in the normal. BPM is fairly high I know, but just a few in the chorus will do I think. im hesitant to do that for consistency reasons.

00:34:012 (1) - offscreen in 4:3 lol woops

That's about it! Good luck ;)
Topic Starter
I Must Decrease

Venix wrote:

Hi
General:
  1. Turn off widescreen support on Easy, Normal and Insane diffs did already rip xd
  2. Inconsisent tags ya i fixed it already xd
  3. Comprese BG to 1920x1080, because 1920x1200 is unrankable
no its not, reread ranking criteria.

https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria

Easy:
  1. 00:17:712 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - I think you should avoid circle spam like this on easy, i prefer try remake part of it for sliders yeah im considering altering both parts
  2. 00:26:035 - I can't understand this break. You can place notes here, rythm here is like this ^ yeah im considering altering both parts
  3. 01:02:452 (2,3) - This flow is uncomfortable for beginners, for better flow i prefer rotate it by 180°. what does this mean? the flow is fine but how would rotating help? what am i rotating?
Overall: I think this easy diff need work with making it easier!

Pure Illusion:
  1. 00:17:712 (2,3,4) - This distance snap haven't logic. Please make spacing before 00:17:712 (2,3) - the same with 00:17:972 (3,4) - for better look and more readable pattern. no i like this visual aesthetic.
  2. 00:20:486 (2,3,4) - ^ same
  3. 00:29:157 (3,4,5) - Flow before 4 and 5 is hard to read. I prefer move 5 to x:173 y:93, it will be make better flow with 4 and with next slider. i don't see how this is hard to read
  4. 01:23:434 (8,9) - This flow is uncomfortable. I prefer hit Ctrl+G, make it like this will make better flow. i think it allows for a better build up feeling with the synth
Overall: Good Expert diff!
marcuddles
Hi Xexxar :3 M4M as planned privately.
I'm really sorry if this will not be useful :/ Feel free to refuse M4M if you find my mod useless.
[Pure Illusion]

  • 00:14:070 (6) - I suggest to stack this object with the slider end of 00:13:550 (4) -
    00:46:324 (5) - This slider feels a bit bad, because it ends on a beat stronger than the slider start's one, I suggest to change with 2 circles + 5 tick slider https://mark101.s-ul.eu/l6qYnttO. Yep, I know you're following the vocal, but it feels bad anyway >.<
    00:58:983 (1,2) - I don't like very much this DS here, because it almost feels like a double bpm jumps, consider to change it :I
    01:03:839 (4) - I suggest to put a NC here, because the vocal section changes.
    01:06:960 (6,7,8,1) - I don't like very much this star, it's really unaesthetic to my eyes, I'd suggest to put 01:07:134 (7,8,1) - a bit up. If something overlaps, move even the overlapped object.
    01:07:654 (2,3,4) - In the previous patterns you used kicksliders for this sound, am I wrong? :/ I suggest to keep the same structure and put a kickslider here.
    01:08:001 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - Same as before, I don't like very much this pattern. I'd suggest to make a more accurate star, even if it never was your intention
    01:08:781 (1,2) - As mentioned before, I suggest to change the DS of this pattern.
    01:21:180 (1,2) - ^. Here you also put a circle instead of the slider, which makes things harder >.< Still suggesting to change DS.
[Anxient's Insane]
  • 00:05:920 (1,2,3,4,1) - The streamy sound is really low, I'd suggest to lower the spacing.
    00:19:446 (3) - The sliderend's beat is much stronger than the sliderhead's one, i'd suggest to replace with 2 circles
    00:35:746 (2,3) - Stack them, in the previous parts of the song you never used a similar pattern.
    00:39:995 (2) - I can't hear any particular sound here, why did you put this slider on the blue tick?
    00:53:954 (2) - Oh, please. I'd not keep this pattern in the kiai, it's kinda nonsense, mainly because there's a sufficient sound to map a jump.
    01:01:585 (2) - Move it a bit to the right to avoid overlap with 01:01:238 (2) -, don't know if this was intentional.
    01:11:989 (2) - Same as before, I'd not keep this in the kiai.
    01:21:874 (3,4) - As mentioned before, I'd put two circles, because (3) ends on a strong beat.
[vick's Hard]
  • 00:09:041 (1) - Move it just a biiit to the left, to avoid the overlap, unless it's intentional.
    00:11:122 (4,5,6) - Ugh, that's a bit harsh for an hard, please put 5 and 6 closer to 00:11:122 (4) -.
    00:27:596 (2) - Move a bit up to avoid overlap with 00:26:729 (4) -, move the rest of the pattern too, to keep the DS correct.
    00:56:035 (1) - Circle + slider, please >.< Feels so bad to hear every slider ending on a strong beat.
    01:14:590 (2) - I suggest to put a reverse 1/4 arrow here, or put a mini stream.
    01:22:914 (2) - This feels so unnecessary... Put the slider here.
I am really sorry for this, but I can't mod Normal & Easy, but I can give one suggestion for Easy:
From 00:17:712 (2) - 00:25:689 (1) - This part really triggers me, because it's mapped only with circles. Please use more sliders >.<

That's all.

Again, I'm really sorry if any of those suggestion would be useless, good luck with your mapset, Xexxar & GDers.
Topic Starter
I Must Decrease

Mark101 wrote:

Hi Xexxar :3 M4M as planned privately.
I'm really sorry if this will not be useful :/ Feel free to refuse M4M if you find my mod useless. thats the spirit
[Pure Illusion]

  • 00:14:070 (6) - I suggest to stack this object with the slider end of 00:13:550 (4) - more readable this way
    00:46:324 (5) - This slider feels a bit bad, because it ends on a beat stronger than the slider start's one, I suggest to change with 2 circles + 5 tick slider https://mark101.s-ul.eu/l6qYnttO. Yep, I know you're following the vocal, but it feels bad anyway >.< vocals
    00:58:983 (1,2) - I don't like very much this DS here, because it almost feels like a double bpm jumps, consider to change it :I fun for me
    01:03:839 (4) - I suggest to put a NC here, because the vocal section changes. fixed vocal nc structure in kiai
    01:06:960 (6,7,8,1) - I don't like very much this star, it's really unaesthetic to my eyes, I'd suggest to put 01:07:134 (7,8,1) - a bit up. If something overlaps, move even the overlapped object. fixed with adjusted vocal NC
    01:07:654 (2,3,4) - In the previous patterns you used kicksliders for this sound, am I wrong? :/ I suggest to keep the same structure and put a kickslider here. since theres no vocal on 01:07:827 (6) - im changing this to avoid emphasis on that note.
    01:08:001 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - Same as before, I don't like very much this pattern. I'd suggest to make a more accurate star, even if it never was your intention not my intention tho
    01:08:781 (1,2) - As mentioned before, I suggest to change the DS of this pattern. no
    01:21:180 (1,2) - ^. Here you also put a circle instead of the slider, which makes things harder >.< Still suggesting to change DS. no
sank u for modding!
vick
thanks for the mod Mark101

fixed some small things like those overlaps. The other things I dont wanna change them

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:Serendipity
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Yoshimaro


hi

everyone clean up your FGKCING green lines
[eays]
01:17:018 (1,2,3) - irregular rhythm, use repeat slider like 01:11:469 (1) - ? idk it would kinda ruin flow w/e

[aitskohsi nrmoal]
00:54:475 (4,4) - 1/2 sliders to get the elements on 00:54:648 - and 01:00:197 - ?

skip vciks hrad and axenit isnean bceause xexxar dindt do the offset right (lo )

[PERU ALEUTIAN]
00:13:030 (1,2,8,9) - idk dude it just sounds overmapped, i feel like i have to trick my ears to hear it the way you explained. i thought these would fit so much better as sliders like 00:07:481 (1,1,1) - ... basically every other slider in the intro does it right

00:39:561 (1,2,3,4,5) - exactly what i meant, gj this is dop

01:14:590 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1) - how about opposite direction since different element then what came before it?

Topic Starter
I Must Decrease

- Yoshimaro - wrote:



hi

everyone clean up your FGKCING green lines
[eays]
01:17:018 (1,2,3) - irregular rhythm, use repeat slider like 01:11:469 (1) - ? idk it would kinda ruin flow w/e ok MOM

[PERU ALEUTIAN]
00:13:030 (1,2,8,9) - idk dude it just sounds overmapped, i feel like i have to trick my ears to hear it the way you explained. i thought these would fit so much better as sliders like 00:07:481 (1,1,1) - ... basically every other slider in the intro does it right its there

00:39:561 (1,2,3,4,5) - exactly what i meant, gj this is dop

01:14:590 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1) - how about opposite direction since different element then what came before it? this is fine

pkk
irc from 10 years ago on top diff
2016-11-02 23:41 Xexxar: hi pkkkkkk
2016-11-02 23:41 pkk: yes man
2016-11-02 23:41 pkk: what is up
2016-11-02 23:41 pkk: my dude
2016-11-02 23:42 Xexxar: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1121378 ZAQ - Serendipity]
2016-11-02 23:42 Xexxar: ya my BG atm is 8.2 BM
2016-11-02 23:42 Xexxar: MB
2016-11-02 23:42 Xexxar: that might be a problem
2016-11-02 23:43 pkk: 00:27:076 (4) - do u want to nc
2016-11-02 23:43 Xexxar: not especially
2016-11-02 23:44 pkk: 00:38:868 (3) - how about this
2016-11-02 23:44 Xexxar: yes
2016-11-02 23:45 pkk: 00:41:642 (2,3,5) - maybe move this whole thing right more
2016-11-02 23:45 Xexxar: 00:43:723 (1) -
2016-11-02 23:45 Xexxar: do you have any better ideas
2016-11-02 23:45 Xexxar: oh ya
2016-11-02 23:45 Xexxar: thats my bad
2016-11-02 23:46 pkk: http://i.imgur.com/pPLUjEh.png maybe curv eht e bottom idk loL
2016-11-02 23:46 pkk: or go for some mor vertical shape
2016-11-02 23:47 pkk: 00:49:966 (1,2,3,4) - :thinking:
2016-11-02 23:47 pkk: i wud say maybe reduce spacing a little bit
2016-11-02 23:47 pkk: or increase spacing 00:49:272 (1,2,3,4) -
2016-11-02 23:47 Xexxar: http://puu.sh/s4KYb/71bd17b69f.jpg
2016-11-02 23:47 Xexxar: >increase spacing
2016-11-02 23:47 Xexxar: >xexxar
2016-11-02 23:47 pkk: 00:49:446 (2,3,4) - i think if u increase spacing gradually more over 2-3 and 3-4
2016-11-02 23:47 Xexxar: MUAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAH
2016-11-02 23:47 pkk: the huge spacing of the next pattern wont be so bleghd
2016-11-02 23:47 pkk: uknowhwatimsaying
2016-11-02 23:48 Xexxar: ya i agree
2016-11-02 23:48 Xexxar: http://puu.sh/s4L0S/fe3a0ac2c9.jpg
2016-11-02 23:48 Xexxar: better?
2016-11-02 23:48 pkk: yee ncie
2016-11-02 23:48 Xexxar: thanks for the .03 stars
2016-11-02 23:48 pkk: np
2016-11-02 23:49 pkk: 01:23:954 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - i think ending jump cud be more interesting if you made the pattern wider
2016-11-02 23:49 pkk: instead of occupying such a vertical space
2016-11-02 23:49 pkk: but that up to you!
2016-11-02 23:49 pkk: !
2016-11-02 23:49 Xexxar: ya i agree
2016-11-02 23:49 pkk: wud be cool
2016-11-02 23:49 pkk: like
2016-11-02 23:49 pkk: c o o l
2016-11-02 23:49 Xexxar: tbh
2016-11-02 23:49 pkk: not as cool as free papa johns

hvick's Hard
  1. 00:51:180 (4,5) - might be difficult to read; would be fine if they started on the white tick though. I think the problem is transitioning between the two repeat sliders since the distinct beat is on the white tick so it should be logical to switch sliders there idk


Anxient's Insane
  1. 00:15:891 - consider changing the slider to 1/2 and moving to the white tick so you can add a circle here for a triplet. I think you should stick to mapping the white tick with a clickable object to keep consistent with your established rhythm (mostly because triples are fun though xzddd)
  2. 00:27:943 (4,5) - you could try using a spaced triple which I feel would emphasize the beats better here
  3. 00:41:382 (2) - spacing here is pretty misleading because the object before and after are rhythmically spaced 1/4 but they don't look that way. You can try turning the slider into just a circle to map that blue tick, or turn it into two circles with one on the blue and one on the red to make a triple with the slider end

    nice diff tho

top dik
  1. 00:10:255 (1) - the jump from the previous circle into this slider is cool but idk something feels weird
    Maybe make the slider point into a linear one or curve the slider more and/or move it to the right/up a bit so the movement from the previous circle feels more like going down and to the --> right --> than going straight down (unless that was wot u were trying to do)
  2. 00:18:059 (4,5,6) - I think you can improve the playability/flow here a bit by decreasing the angle of the jump + increasing the spacing at 00:18:405 (6,1) - tl;dr make the jump from 4-5 and 5-6 less vertical
    cuz that way the upwards movement into the repeat slider gets emphasized cuz 5-6 is h o r ii z ont al ==============d
  3. 00:20:833 (4,5,6,1) - `L_`
    make sum emphasis b4 repeat slider could be nice
  4. 00:25:689 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - dividing this into three groups of four also works and I guess makes more sense rhythmically
  5. 00:41:642 (2,3,4,5) - would've been cool to have the same 1/4 sliders like at 00:40:255 (2,3,4,5) - . There are 1/4 sounds so you can definitely do it here, but I guess it would be difficult to get a nice pattern. You can try having them go in the opposite direction as 00:40:255 (2,3,4,5) -
  6. 00:50:660 (5) - consider adding NC here to split the drums into their own combos because it is veri co o l (see my next point wher i further expand upon this!!)
  7. 00:52:047 (1) - optional remove NC so the stream is 12345 instead of 1234killme(1), idk if that will look nicer or not but it goes well with the 12345 at 00:51:180 (1,2,3,4,5) - .

Topic Starter
I Must Decrease

pkk wrote:

top dik
  1. 00:10:255 (1) - the jump from the previous circle into this slider is cool but idk something feels weird
    Maybe make the slider point into a linear one or curve the slider more and/or move it to the right/up a bit so the movement from the previous circle feels more like going down and to the --> right --> than going straight down (unless that was wot u were trying to do)
  2. 00:18:059 (4,5,6) - I think you can improve the playability/flow here a bit by decreasing the angle of the jump + increasing the spacing at 00:18:405 (6,1) - tl;dr make the jump from 4-5 and 5-6 less vertical
    cuz that way the upwards movement into the repeat slider gets emphasized cuz 5-6 is h o r ii z ont al ==============d
  3. 00:20:833 (4,5,6,1) - `L_`
    make sum emphasis b4 repeat slider could be nice
  4. 00:25:689 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - dividing this into three groups of four also works and I guess makes more sense rhythmically
  5. 00:41:642 (2,3,4,5) - would've been cool to have the same 1/4 sliders like at 00:40:255 (2,3,4,5) - . There are 1/4 sounds so you can definitely do it here, but I guess it would be difficult to get a nice pattern. You can try having them go in the opposite direction as 00:40:255 (2,3,4,5) -
  6. 00:50:660 (5) - consider adding NC here to split the drums into their own combos because it is veri co o l (see my next point wher i further expand upon this!!)
  7. 00:52:047 (1) - optional remove NC so the stream is 12345 instead of 1234killme(1), idk if that will look nicer or not but it goes well with the 12345 at 00:51:180 (1,2,3,4,5) - .

responded via discord xddd
vick

pkk wrote:

hvick's Hard
  1. 00:51:180 (4,5) - might be difficult to read; would be fine if they started on the white tick though. I think the problem is transitioning between the two repeat sliders since the distinct beat is on the white tick so it should be logical to switch sliders there idk sorry but i dont think thats necessary, i asked for some testplays from people about rank 10k and nobody missed there. If more modders say the same i will change it

Illyasviel
Illusion

  1. 00:52:047 (5) - NC
  2. 01:01:411 (6,6,8) - Make the slider 6 match either the circle 6 or 8.
  3. 01:03:665 (5,1) - The transition between 5 and 1 is very hard to do, specially because you kill the flow as your last slider is 01:03:145 (3) - and goes counterclockwise. Since I know this type of sliders are much like your signature, I can just recommend you to Ctrl G 5. It flows better.
  4. Overall great difficulty, jumps feel natural. The end jumps are my favorite part of your difficulty, excellent build up for the last jumps.

Anxient's Insane

  1. 00:15:804 (1,2) - Feels terrible to play. Unjustified blue tick.
  2. 00:39:561 (1,2,3,1,2,1) - I understand why you used blue ticks here, but it plays terrible like the example above.
  3. 01:24:128 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - You are better than this. Make them more aesthetically pleasing.
Topic Starter
I Must Decrease

[XV] wrote:

Illusion

  1. 00:52:047 (5) - NC no, all stream ends in this map dont have nc
  2. 01:01:411 (6,6,8) - Make the slider 6 match either the circle 6 or 8. ya
  3. 01:03:665 (5,1) - The transition between 5 and 1 is very hard to do, specially because you kill the flow as your last slider is 01:03:145 (3) - and goes counterclockwise. Since I know this type of sliders are much like your signature, I can just recommend you to Ctrl G 5. It flows better. nah its my signature
  4. Overall great difficulty, jumps feel natural. The end jumps are my favorite part of your difficulty, excellent build up for the last jumps.
Akitoshi

Venix wrote:

Akitoshi's Normal:
  1. 00:19:446 (5,1,2) - Please try to avoid flows like this in normal. Linear flows are hard to read, mby try make it like this? ↓ moved 00:19:966 (1) - a bit but not 00:20:486 (2) - cuz it's same combo color so ya
  2. 01:25:168 (5) - I think this circle should have NC, because here music is more empasised ok
Overall: Good normal!

- Yoshimaro - wrote:

[aitskohsi nrmoal]
00:54:475 (4,4) - 1/2 sliders to get the elements on 00:54:648 - and 01:00:197 - ? no thx

Thanks guys o/

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Anxient

Osuology wrote:

[Anxient's Insane (ayy it's mah boi)]
00:00:718 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe do something like this? http://prntscr.com/d3hm0n Could look a little better if they are parallel. It is a little troublesome to rearrange the hitobjects after this so eh
Also right here you have a timing line and green line that have conflicting values (volume namely). Make them the same, it's unrankable - not applied. since it plays weird imo. but ill fix the timing issues.

00:27:423 (3) - Maybe make this 90 degrees from 2? looks like this: http://prntscr.com/d3hulf - the idea for this map is that the jumps are slated, not perfectly aligned to the grid. looks too solid that way. ill keep this.

00:29:157 (4,1) - Probably should avoid overlaps unless you're going to keep doing them throughout the section. I know this is a fairly unconsistent map on purpose, but considering how much it is based on aesthetics, I think you should either remove the overlap or continue it through the whole section here. - it doesnt look too bad imo ;c

00:35:746 (2,3) - I'm guessing you manually stacked this inverted right? Just making sure - yep

00:39:561 (1,2,3) - Don't know why you stopped mapping, considering you don't do the same with the others. 00:40:255 (3,1) - Space between these two should either be mapped or others should have same empty space. - mapped. although that part's wubs felt more prominent to me and i wanted to emphasize them. looking at it now

01:06:960 (1) - NC? If you will keep this, then I think you should NC 01:08:348 (3) - this also. - whoops :p applied

01:09:648 (4,5,6,7,8) - Kinda overmapped tbh, I don't really see how this could be beneficial to the map in some way. It's not really conveyed in the music at all as far as I can hear, and I can't see any other reason behind it.


That's about it! Good luck ;)

Venix wrote:

Anxient's Insane
  1. 00:00:795 - Two stacked timing points with diffrent volumes can't be rankable. - i dont understand. doesnt look unrankable to my knowledge.
  2. 00:21:180 (3,1) - I think distance before this two notes should be higher, because it not fit strange of 00:21:353 (1) - this 1/2. - i think the contrasting flow(?) uhh cursor movement is emphasis enough.
  3. 00:35:746 (2,3) - This double 1/2 should be stacked for make logic composition with 00:33:319 (3,4) - and 00:38:521 (2,3). - intentional
  4. 00:44:764 (3) - Hit here Ctrl+G, because flow before 00:44:533 (2,3) - this 1/3's is very unconfortable - ok
Overall: Oryginal diff! - wot xd

Mark101 wrote:

[Anxient's Insane]
  • 00:05:920 (1,2,3,4,1) - The streamy sound is really low, I'd suggest to lower the spacing. - seems pretty hype to me? i mean the buildup~
    00:19:446 (3) - The sliderend's beat is much stronger than the sliderhead's one, i'd suggest to replace with 2 circles - ok
    00:35:746 (2,3) - Stack them, in the previous parts of the song you never used a similar pattern. - ok fine.
    00:39:995 (2) - I can't hear any particular sound here, why did you put this slider on the blue tick? - i was referring to the fade and appearance of the synths but apparently not eeveryone hears what i hear so i turned them back to "normal".
    00:53:954 (2) - Oh, please. I'd not keep this pattern in the kiai, it's kinda nonsense, mainly because there's a sufficient sound to map a jump. - id have to disagree. i think this serves as good buildup to the next notes
    01:01:585 (2) - Move it a bit to the right to avoid overlap with 01:01:238 (2) -, don't know if this was intentional. - it is
    01:11:989 (2) - Same as before, I'd not keep this in the kiai. - same as before.
    01:21:874 (3,4) - As mentioned before, I'd put two circles, because (3) ends on a strong beat. - lets try this.
Anxient's Insane
  1. 00:15:891 - consider changing the slider to 1/2 and moving to the white tick so you can add a circle here for a triplet. I think you should stick to mapping the white tick with a clickable object to keep consistent with your established rhythm (mostly because triples are fun though xzddd) - it feels fine tho? ill change it if someone complains about it tho. ill keep this in mind.
  2. 00:27:943 (4,5) - you could try using a spaced triple which I feel would emphasize the beats better here - changed to triple.
  3. 00:41:382 (2) - spacing here is pretty misleading because the object before and after are rhythmically spaced 1/4 but they don't look that way. You can try turning the slider into just a circle to map that blue tick, or turn it into two circles with one on the blue and one on the red to make a triple with the slider end - made it less confusing.

    nice diff tho

[XV] wrote:

Anxient's Insane

  1. 00:15:804 (1,2) - Feels terrible to play. Unjustified blue tick. - normally i would agree with you if the song didnt have a sound in the blue tick (which it does)
  2. 00:39:561 (1,2,3,1,2,1) - I understand why you used blue ticks here, but it plays terrible like the example above. - xexxar also told me this and i caved in. applied/
  3. 01:24:128 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - You are better than this. Make them more aesthetically pleasing. - idk what you mean by this, since they look fine to me, but i changed the last 3 notes to make them more 'anxient'
thanks y'all

woah
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Lasse
general
00:06:267 - until here I think soft sampleset works way better with the song than drum for hitnormals
01:28:116 - would add some whistle on the end of this spinner to fit the guitar

ex
when 1/2 sliders are curved by just the right amount
00:03:492 (1) - 00:05:746 (3) - really minor, but looking at how much you curved the shorter sliders in this section, curving these more would fit your visuals way better lol http://i.imgur.com/mYSIci3.jpg
00:05:920 - 1/4 seems quite noticeable around here, could consider following these instead of focusing so much on the vocals. would probably be a bit more interesting http://i.imgur.com/6hcw0fS.jpg
00:16:671 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - could use like one or two volume changes on this to make it match what happens in the song better like you did with the spacing change
00:44:417 (2,3) - such an interesting rhythm reduced to 1/1 : ( how about mapping at least the second one as circles? repeat makes an easy transition to 1/3 and would fit well with vocals on the second one
00:50:660 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'd reduce this 1x ds so you get a more gradual increase over the whole buildup pattern
also spacing difference to 00:51:700 (1,2,3,4,5) - from the first two could be a bit more noticeable as drums sound so different
01:07:654 (4,5,6) - other 2 occasions you mapped this as kickslider+circle and I think that worked much better with the "woo" thing the vocals do
would also be great if you could make these sliders 01:04:879 (2) - 01:06:267 (4) - stand out more as the vocal is so distinct (like sv change or maybe having them look different from the others,...)
01:15:284 (11) - how about doing something (nc, spacing change, whatever) here as vocals start again and drums seem a bit different?

considering readability: some of the passive 1/4 jumps seem a bit huge at first compared to other spacing , but once you figured out how they only occur after very specific shapes they seem fine. at least that's my impression from playing the map a few times

anx
00:06:267 - why is this happening, music is so consistent and you do this. could ctrlg or something like http://i.imgur.com/9Iwv5RX.jpg
00:16:671 (1) - reducing by 1/4 and starting the stream when the music actually changes makes more sense and would be nicer to play
00:33:665 (1,2) - compared to your other patterns this felt a bit "static" visually. probably because of angles between things. did you consider something like http://i.imgur.com/kcyIO7u.jpg ?
00:52:047 (1,2) - same musical thing/very similar sounds but you mapped them totally differently : /
00:52:741 (1) - feels a bit too undermapped for an insane and considering how you mapped several 5 note streams etc. at least split into 2 repeats or even use more circles
00:56:035 (4) - with how much intensity of vocal increases here, a stack didn't feel very fitting // 00:58:810 (2) - 01:11:989 (2) -
00:57:596 (1,2) - hard to explain, but it looks out of place with your other visuals http://i.imgur.com/QFb3FNA.jpg but that might also just be me lol
01:01:238 (2,2) - can you not http://i.imgur.com/wUrX9fz.jpg looks completely out of place cause you never overlapped things similarly. if you want to overlap, at least make visuals consistent with 01:01:758 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) -
01:02:798 (1,2,1) - end up playing like http://i.imgur.com/eq7Z6zf.jpg which is lol
01:07:654 (3,1,2,1) - at least make the overlaps consistent it's triggering and looks pretty unpolished
01:23:087 (3,2) - http://i.imgur.com/qjASAoV.jpg

vick
http://i.imgur.com/A6o0l96.jpg
would be great if you could take autostacking into account for your patterns as it makes them look noticeable off at many spots, l
ike 00:01:064 (2,3,4,1) - 00:36:787 (1,3,4) - etc
00:35:227 - rhythm like http://i.imgur.com/kQdARYG.jpg would make more sense with vocals and all
00:44:764 - rhythm like http://i.imgur.com/eO0ESy5.jpg fits the song better and is still very simple to play or maybe something like http://i.imgur.com/51wxTGw.jpg but mapping 1/2 snap when 1/3 are much more noticeable doesn't really work

akitoshi
00:22:220 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - can you put an actual 1/1 gap (or preferrably more than one) anywhere in here? it's pretty dense rhythm wise, especially for such a part of the song
00:56:035 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - do something about this being all counterclockwise movement
01:11:469 (5) - doing http://i.imgur.com/Unmw8kg.jpg would be great for emphasis on the vocal on 01:11:989 -

e
having 10% of your tvsize as break _ -
00:00:718 (1,1) - 3 beats at this bpm seems a bit low for easy recovery time
00:13:030 (3,4,1) - bad readability with the movement on 3 suggesting to go towards 00:14:590 (1) - instead. could do something like http://i.imgur.com/yhS4wS7.jpg
01:01:064 (5,2) - this one maybe too but not sure
vick

Lasse wrote:

vick
http://i.imgur.com/A6o0l96.jpg
would be great if you could take autostacking into account for your patterns as it makes them look noticeable off at many spots, l
ike 00:01:064 (2,3,4,1) - 00:36:787 (1,3,4) - etc fixed
00:35:227 - rhythm like http://i.imgur.com/kQdARYG.jpg would make more sense with vocals and all fixed
00:44:764 - rhythm like http://i.imgur.com/eO0ESy5.jpg fits the song better and is still very simple to play or maybe something like http://i.imgur.com/51wxTGw.jpg but mapping 1/2 snap when 1/3 are much more noticeable doesn't really work fixed like the first option
thanks for the moddd !

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Topic Starter
I Must Decrease

Lasse wrote:

general
00:06:267 - until here I think soft sampleset works way better with the song than drum for hitnormals applied
01:28:116 - would add some whistle on the end of this spinner to fit the guitar applied

ex
when 1/2 sliders are curved by just the right amount
00:03:492 (1) - 00:05:746 (3) - really minor, but looking at how much you curved the shorter sliders in this section, curving these more would fit your visuals way better lol http://i.imgur.com/mYSIci3.jpg applied
00:05:920 - 1/4 seems quite noticeable around here, could consider following these instead of focusing so much on the vocals. would probably be a bit more interesting http://i.imgur.com/6hcw0fS.jpg nah
00:16:671 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - could use like one or two volume changes on this to make it match what happens in the song better like you did with the spacing change ya i mean it had soft vs drum but ill od it anyway
00:44:417 (2,3) - such an interesting rhythm reduced to 1/1 : ( how about mapping at least the second one as circles? repeat makes an easy transition to 1/3 and would fit well with vocals on the second one fine mooooom
00:50:660 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'd reduce this 1x ds so you get a more gradual increase over the whole buildup pattern
also spacing difference to 00:51:700 (1,2,3,4,5) - from the first two could be a bit more noticeable as drums sound so different applied
01:07:654 (4,5,6) - other 2 occasions you mapped this as kickslider+circle and I think that worked much better with the "woo" thing the vocals do
would also be great if you could make these sliders 01:04:879 (2) - 01:06:267 (4) - stand out more as the vocal is so distinct (like sv change or maybe having them look different from the others,...) applied
01:15:284 (11) - how about doing something (nc, spacing change, whatever) here as vocals start again and drums seem a bit different? yeah

considering readability: some of the passive 1/4 jumps seem a bit huge at first compared to other spacing , but once you figured out how they only occur after very specific shapes they seem fine. at least that's my impression from playing the map a few times i think it makes sense since all patterns are consistently the same shape of slider


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having 10% of your tvsize as break _ - i cant figure out how to map that part
00:00:718 (1,1) - 3 beats at this bpm seems a bit low for easy recovery time its a full second, its fine
00:13:030 (3,4,1) - bad readability with the movement on 3 suggesting to go towards 00:14:590 (1) - instead. could do something like http://i.imgur.com/yhS4wS7.jpg ok
01:01:064 (5,2) - this one maybe too but not sure ill leave it then
Anxient

Lasse wrote:

general

anx
00:06:267 - why is this happening, music is so consistent and you do this. could ctrlg or something like http://i.imgur.com/9Iwv5RX.jpg - is that the correct screenshot? ctrl g'd.
00:16:671 (1) - reducing by 1/4 and starting the stream when the music actually changes makes more sense and would be nicer to play - aight
00:33:665 (1,2) - compared to your other patterns this felt a bit "static" visually. probably because of angles between things. did you consider something like http://i.imgur.com/kcyIO7u.jpg ? - alright then?
00:52:047 (1,2) - same musical thing/very similar sounds but you mapped them totally differently : / - which apir are you comparing this to? ah well. made it more normal.
00:52:741 (1) - feels a bit too undermapped for an insane and considering how you mapped several 5 note streams etc. at least split into 2 repeats or even use more circles - made it more interesting
00:56:035 (4) - with how much intensity of vocal increases here, a stack didn't feel very fitting // 00:58:810 (2) - 01:11:989 (2) - all applied except for the last one. it just doesnt feel right anywhere else :c
00:57:596 (1,2) - hard to explain, but it looks out of place with your other visuals http://i.imgur.com/QFb3FNA.jpg but that might also just be me lol - mfw you somehow notice a 0.5 angle inconsistency http://puu.sh/s97by/f534fc06fd.jpg
01:01:238 (2,2) - can you not http://i.imgur.com/wUrX9fz.jpg looks completely out of place cause you never overlapped things similarly. if you want to overlap, at least make visuals consistent with 01:01:758 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - i tried.
01:02:798 (1,2,1) - end up playing like http://i.imgur.com/eq7Z6zf.jpg which is lol - ee...
01:07:654 (3,1,2,1) - at least make the overlaps consistent it's triggering and looks pretty unpolished - not sure what you wanted from this but i made 01:08:001 (1,1) - 's gap distance to be .66 on 1/4; same as 01:07:654 (3,2) -
01:23:087 (3,2) - http://i.imgur.com/qjASAoV.jpg - got rid of the overlap.
thanks for modding
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Akitoshi

Lasse wrote:

akitoshi
00:22:220 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - can you put an actual 1/1 gap (or preferrably more than one) anywhere in here? it's pretty dense rhythm wise, especially for such a part of the song ok
00:56:035 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - do something about this being all counterclockwise movement did something
01:11:469 (5) - doing http://i.imgur.com/Unmw8kg.jpg would be great for emphasis on the vocal on 01:11:989 - okk
thankie lasse

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Topic Starter
I Must Decrease
updated all xd
Lasse
metadata from video
http://i.imgur.com/Y4KFdFA.jpg

added video back to vick's diff, fixed 2 wrongly snapped sliders and some hitsounds
Topic Starter
I Must Decrease
what time is it?
Natsu
Pure Illusion
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  1. 00:30:891 (8,1) - there is no reason to overlap this, since the music isn't weak o.o, also you have stuff like 00:20:486 (2,3,4) - 00:17:712 (1,2,3) - already ;o
  2. 00:52:741 (1,2) - mmm nop, such a huge jump for vocals without support from the music :cry: , can you just use normal spacing, I really don't agree with this tbh
    jumpy
Anxient's Insane
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  1. 00:04:533 (1,1) - 00:43:723 (1,2,3) - we was talking with sonnyc and the spacing here is really chaotic, the 1/4s aren't overlapped, but the 1/3s are, which doesn't make much sense, since the time gap between 1/3 are bigger than the 1/4s, just change this spacing 00:43:723 (1,2) - to be similar like 00:44:533 (2,3,1) -
    01:00:371 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - there is no reason to have such chaotic comboings, can you make them consistent?, since they don't add nothing, but extra HP.
vick's Hard
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  1. 00:40:602 (3,1) - ¿Porqué el espacio se reduce si la canción no baja intensidad?, el resto de esa parte sigue siendo el mismo espaciado, así que supondré que es un error.
  2. 00:50:920 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - el ritmo es demasiado complicado para esta dificultad, en mi opinión lo tenes que reducir, personalmente no pondría icono con este cambio de dificultad tan grande, al menos elimina el primer triplete en la cola del slider ese seria el compromiso que puedo tener con vos aquí.
Akitoshi's Normal
[]
  1. 00:24:822 (1,2) - spacing
  2. 00:55:515 (7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - the 1/2 train is going too long without any break, make it less dense.
  3. 01:14:244 (4,5,6,7,1,2) - same
  4. 01:20:660 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - same
  5. bte the spacing in the density of this diff needs atleast a little boost in the AR, use 5,5 instead.
  6. when you used high spacing, but the objects still overlap the map looks not good, either you don't overlap or you use less spacing, this just feedback for future normal diffs, since the design isn't good right now.
Easy
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  1. shouldn't the NC be at 01:07:307 (5) - ?
call me back if the skyblue things are fixed >:(
vick

Natsu wrote:

vick's Hard
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  1. 00:40:602 (3,1) - ¿Porqué el espacio se reduce si la canción no baja intensidad?, el resto de esa parte sigue siendo el mismo espaciado, así que supondré que es un error.
  2. 00:50:920 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - el ritmo es demasiado complicado para esta dificultad, en mi opinión lo tenes que reducir, personalmente no pondría icono con este cambio de dificultad tan grande, al menos elimina el primer triplete en la cola del slider ese seria el compromiso que puedo tener con vos aquí.
fixed everything thanks for the mod !


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Topic Starter
I Must Decrease

Natsu wrote:

Pure Illusion
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  1. 00:30:891 (8,1) - there is no reason to overlap this, since the music isn't weak o.o, also you have stuff like 00:20:486 (2,3,4) - 00:17:712 (1,2,3) - already ;o fixed
  2. 00:52:741 (1,2) - mmm nop, such a huge jump for vocals without support from the music :cry: , can you just use normal spacing, I really don't agree with this tbh ok MOM
    jumpy
Anxient's Insane
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  1. 00:04:533 (1,1) - 00:43:723 (1,2,3) - we was talking with sonnyc and the spacing here is really chaotic, the 1/4s aren't overlapped, but the 1/3s are, which doesn't make much sense, since the time gap between 1/3 are bigger than the 1/4s, just change this spacing 00:43:723 (1,2) - to be similar like 00:44:533 (2,3,1) - fixed
    01:00:371 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - there is no reason to have such chaotic comboings, can you make them consistent?, since they don't add nothing, but extra HP. applied the first half of NC, the square pattern remains nc
Easy
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  1. shouldn't the NC be at 01:07:307 (5) - ? fixed the NC and the ones after
call me back if the skyblue things are fixed >:(
Akitoshi

Natsu wrote:

Akitoshi's Normal
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  1. 00:24:822 (1,2) - spacing
  2. 00:55:515 (7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - the 1/2 train is going too long without any break, make it less dense.
  3. 01:14:244 (4,5,6,7,1,2) - same
  4. 01:20:660 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - same
  5. bte the spacing in the density of this diff needs atleast a little boost in the AR, use 5,5 instead.
  6. when you used high spacing, but the objects still overlap the map looks not good, either you don't overlap or you use less spacing, this just feedback for future normal diffs, since the design isn't good right now.
fixed all, thanks!

asd
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Natsu
seems fine
Nao Tomori
solid 1 week old submission we have here

gratz xexxar
Anxient
pls flip my flap
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