Resolved hitsound issues in HXJ's NM updated a few patterns. This should be all good now. Bubbled!

After bubbled wut should do?
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好棒棒, Q

Critical_Star wrote:

好棒棒, Q

(owo=)b aligatou

Congratz <3

woooo hxj gd qualified \:D/

hitsound volume crusade

the mp3 quality is not too great, is there no official album from PIU to grab a better mp3 quality off? The other Dream to Nightmare chart I have on osu has a bit worse mp3 but you can still hear artifacts in this one so if possible try to get a better quality one

the hitsounds, especially sub bass and hat blend in with the mp3 and hitnormals partially, although hitnormals are hearable on the default skin, all of those are barely over what I would consider straight up not okay so I recommend to up the volume by at least 10%

I've heard really mixed opinions about the patterning and I myself don't really like ending most bursts with hands because that creates minijacks that don't have much meaning but that's minor, I told people to post if they have any suggestions

MX
01:05:432 - col 3
01:06:780 - col 2
01:08:128 - col 3
01:09:477 - col 3 (should be col 2 for consistency)
01:10:825 - col 3

Nightmare
01:00:713 to 01:02:061
I really don't know what to say, other than.. What the hell is this?
You gotta change this, it's way too dense for the map.

Fine chart anyway, gl!

So um. Metadata team here. Correct me if I'm wrong since I'm not really knowledgeable about the Groove series.

In the Groove 3 isn't a real game. It's a modified theme that people were able to put on machines.

The actual In the Groove 3 game was canceled because of a lawsuit with Konami or something so it doesn't actually exist.

Because of this, Your current source is invalid and should be placed in the tags or removed.

Instead please use "PUMP IT UP - 2013 FIESTA 2 -" as the source since it appeared on this version of the game.


Unicode Title: Dream to Nightmare
Unicode Artist: Nightmare
Source: PUMP IT UP - 2013 FIESTA 2 -

- References:
+ http://www.piugame.com/piu.prime2/pumpitup/software.php
+ https://lanturn.s-ul.eu/2L0sAQyk
+ https://lanturn.s-ul.eu/96nc1hYh

Let me know and I can call a QAT to DQ this. Also consider checking the other posts by Kamikaze and Wadu for other fixes that may need to be applied.

LOL thanks for your help but~

During this time is Chinese Spring Festival ( you konw, the biggest and most important festival in China~ ). So I just can reply your post can not make change right now.
DQ this and I'll finish the wrong thing after this festival
So sorry to response so late,

Kamikaze wrote:

hitsound volume crusade

the mp3 quality is not too great, is there no official album from PIU to grab a better mp3 quality off? The other Dream to Nightmare chart I have on osu has a bit worse mp3 but you can still hear artifacts in this one so if possible try to get a better quality one

This mp3 is what I can get quality, just take it from ITG3 files. I really can not get better quality about it, if kami~ you can get better one I can replace it~

Kamikaze wrote:

the hitsounds, especially sub bass and hat blend in with the mp3 and hitnormals partially, although hitnormals are hearable on the default skin, all of those are barely over what I would consider straight up not okay so I recommend to up the volume by at least 10%

Some one like blend or some one like overshaowing, but I think the good way to make it is to balence them. If you think it's so unhearable I can add the volume. So I'll add at least 10%, too much I afaird that will sick them who don't like overshaowing

Kamikaze wrote:

I've heard really mixed opinions about the patterning and I myself don't really like ending most bursts with hands because that creates minijacks that don't have much meaning but that's minor, I told people to post if they have any suggestions

I make them mini-jacks for reason that 1) it's should be, just match the music tone. For MX I only make 3 mini-jacks to reflect the same tone and drop when the music have change. So in Nightmare ( means hardest diff ) so I make other mini-jack and it's really cool I think~ xD, This part I consultde Evening, I make them and listen to his opinions, of course, I have only my intentions. 2) As for pattarn, it's not so hard to hit or so difficult to combo them, I try my best to balenced the col so make sure it's not so nonsense and terrible experence when you play them ( I mean player who have higher level), I know I can not make all player satisfied with my pattern, cuz not everyone have good technique on any type of skills in 4K mode, like someone can not jack, someone can not stairs, someone hate LN or someone just don't like SV.. so If the quality of the setting is so bad and unrankable I'll fix them, or I wanna just keep it.. xD can I?

Lanturn wrote:

So um. Metadata team here. Correct me if I'm wrong since I'm not really knowledgeable about the Groove series.

In the Groove 3 isn't a real game. It's a modified theme that people were able to put on machines.

The actual In the Groove 3 game was canceled because of a lawsuit with Konami or something so it doesn't actually exist.

Because of this, Your current source is invalid and should be placed in the tags or removed.

Instead please use "PUMP IT UP - 2013 FIESTA 2 -" as the source since it appeared on this version of the game.


Unicode Title: Dream to Nightmare
Unicode Artist: Nightmare
Source: PUMP IT UP - 2013 FIESTA 2 -

- References:
+ http://www.piugame.com/piu.prime2/pumpitup/software.php
+ https://lanturn.s-ul.eu/2L0sAQyk
+ https://lanturn.s-ul.eu/96nc1hYh

Let me know and I can call a QAT to DQ this. Also consider checking the other posts by Kamikaze and Wadu for other fixes that may need to be applied.

okii~ thx you so helpful, let's DQ this,

as for tag I really don't know how ITG is game or not, cuz I hear this song from it so I make tag of it, ok I'll change it to your advice~
actully I did not play the PIU xD

Yeah, as I've said I heard mixed opinions and I didn't play the chart so it should be okay, you could just ask someone that has a high score on the leaderboard for opinions and see if they have some good suggestions.

_Stan wrote:

Some one like blend or some one like overshaowing, but I think the good way to make it is to balence them. If you think it's so unhearable I can add the volume. So I'll add at least 10%, too much I afaird that will sick them who don't like overshaowing

As for this, I can understand that some people like blending hitsounds the same way some people don't use hitsounds at all, but it is a rule in Ranking Criteria that the hitsounds must give audible feedback when playing, so it cannot be blending. If the volume increase fixes the problem that's cool, but just be sure to check if they blend or not.

Dqed so the mapper can update stuff when he's back.

nice map, no matter it's full of jumtrills or """""pp bursts""""", it's fine as long as it fits the song.
(imo)

Wadu wrote:

MX
01:05:432 - col 3
01:06:780 - col 2
01:08:128 - col 3
01:09:477 - col 3 (should be col 2 for consistency)
01:10:825 - col 3
these all jack I make it in design. As for it is MX diff so short mini-jack here I think is ok for player that have MX level to play and jack with next jack interval is 1s is enough to give player to relax and prepare

Nightmare
01:00:713 to 01:02:061
I really don't know what to say, other than.. What the hell is this?
You gotta change this, it's way too dense for the map.
I think it's not to dense, it's just more than 01:12:173 - , for player that can play 5* it's not so super-hard to hit in 1/6

Fine chart anyway, gl!

thank you so much~ no change

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All source change to PUMP IT UP - 2013 FIESTA 2 -
put itg and itg3 into tags

Lanturn wrote:

Unicode Title: Dream to Nightmare
Unicode Artist: Nightmare
Source: PUMP IT UP - 2013 FIESTA 2 -

Thanks Lanturn !

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modified the HSs
But I'm not add the 10% to HSs but I do it another way
I change the HS's file, Increase the the volume of every hss. So the effect of this is same like to add the percent of hs in game editor.
cuz this methods is more effective and simple

Thanks Kami

Metadata and hitsounds are fixed. Re-bubbled!

change the hs again cuz Kami still thinks it's too quiet lol.

-2db on audio.mp3 and +1db more on every hs files and now

change the pattern just a little more balanced the col at 01:00:713 - and 3-chord I still keep cuz it should be considering the rhytum and heavy beat sounds here

The pattern looks better, I'm fine with that

however I still think that sub bass, bass and hat hitsounds are way too blending, especailly hat

I checked and hat absolutely has to be at 100% to be clearly hearable (even then it's not perfect) and both bass hitsounds should be at at least 90%

You can change that fast by doing the replace all command in notepad inside the .osu file like this:

Kamikaze wrote:

The pattern looks better, I'm fine with that

however I still think that sub bass, bass and hat hitsounds are way too blending, especailly hat

I checked and hat absolutely has to be at 100% to be clearly hearable (even then it's not perfect) and both bass hitsounds should be at at least 90%

You can change that fast by doing the replace all command in notepad inside the .osu file like this:

yeah, this method is really effective and convenient, hs problems done~

thanks

Changed hitsound volumes so let's get this back. Re-bubbled!

issue resolved

good map

why DQ this rip

hello i don't know who passed this but

the timing is off by (71-39=) -32 ms
00:00:039 - check the very first note if you want a reference

??? guys what is this

It's true that the timing is off, but not that much as you stated. Offset should be 56 instead (+17 to the current one) if you hear other sections of the song. The first note is a delayed scratch anyway, so it's hard to base the whole song's offset on it.

Additionally, the song uses a 3/4 timing signature at the beginning (if you follow the drums) and then changes to 4/4 again. It's discussable to use additional metronome resets on the sections 00:22:976 - to 00:37:807 - and 01:16:908 - to 01:27:695 - since its chaos is in the nature of this song, though you probably won't need them.



Good luck!

Hi, would like to point out the hs:


Diff EZ in 00:31:892 (31892|3) - should be hat like the diff HD and MX.

00:45:376 (45376|1) - is bass or sub bass?

00:50:937 (50937|3) - missing hat and 00:56:331 (56331|3) -

01:11:836 (71836|1) - inconsistency and 01:12:510 (72510|0) - ?

The length EZ is inconsistent, delete and add LN again 01:43:437 (103437|0) -

Deif wrote:

It's true that the timing is off, but not that much as you stated. Offset should be 56 instead (+17 to the current one) if you hear other sections of the song. The first note is a delayed scratch anyway, so it's hard to base the whole song's offset on it.

yeah, I think it's properly that this audio file have some change some how when I wanna +3 db on it. By accident.

Deif wrote:

Additionally, the song uses a 3/4 timing signature at the beginning (if you follow the drums) and then changes to 4/4 again. It's discussable to use additional metronome resets on the sections 00:22:976 - to 00:37:807 - and 01:16:908 - to 01:27:695 - since its chaos is in the nature of this song, though you probably won't need them.

Just leave it

Etsu wrote:

Hi, would like to point out the hs:


Diff EZ in 00:31:892 (31892|3) - should be hat like the diff HD and MX.

SPOILER

00:45:376 (45376|1) - is bass or sub bass?

00:50:937 (50937|3) - missing hat and 00:56:331 (56331|3) -

01:11:836 (71836|1) - inconsistency and 01:12:510 (72510|0) - ?

SPOILER

The length EZ is inconsistent, delete and add LN again 01:43:437 (103437|0) -

all fixed

Hello, a little mod here

Both MX & Nightmare

00:12:106 (12106) - 00:14:803 (14803) - 00:17:499 (17499) - Those notes aren't playing something, delete them

Yep it's little

sebaex wrote:

Hello, a little mod here

Both MX & Nightmare

00:12:106 (12106) - 00:14:803 (14803) - 00:17:499 (17499) - Those notes aren't playing something, delete them

Yep it's little

keep, cuz they are, you can play it st 25% playback

Because the offset is changed, you need to snap all green lines to the new offset. Go to "Timing" and select all green timing points. Then you will see a input box telling you to change all the timing points by a certain time. Enter 17 into the box and Aimod warnings will disappear.

In MX and Nightmare, 00:45:393 - here should only be a sub bass hitsound so delete the bass.

In EZ, make 01:11:853 (71853|1,72190|3,72527|0) - them into drumhit as you put drumhit instead of sub bass for all in EZ. Be sure to add drumhit to other diffs in the same point as 01:11:853 - too.

Besides, NM is based on entirely different hitsound base, since you only put sub bass instead of drumhit in NM when these two hitsounds have conflicts. I would prefer you to actually make all sub bass in NM that actually also have drumhit hitsounds into drumhit, which might be a pretty exhausting job. It's just a suggestion, since it will not harm if you just make all in NM in a different way, which keeps the consistency in itself. I am just with the purpose of keeping the consistency of the whole mapset so it depends on you.

Maybe give it like 3 days to wait if there are other issues being brought up by other modders. If not, I will just rebubble it as soon as possible. Hopefully we can let it go and save osu!mania again.

Tofu1222 wrote:

Because the offset is changed, you need to snap all green lines to the new offset. Go to "Timing" and select all green timing points. Then you will see a input box telling you to change all the timing points by a certain time. Enter 17 into the box and Aimod warnings will disappear.
oki, done. Thanks

In MX and Nightmare, 00:45:393 - here should only be a sub bass hitsound so delete the bass.
fixed

In EZ, make 01:11:853 (71853|1,72190|3,72527|0) - them into drumhit as you put drumhit instead of sub bass for all in EZ. Be sure to add drumhit to other diffs in the same point as 01:11:853 - too.
ok

Besides, NM is based on entirely different hitsound base, since you only put sub bass instead of drumhit in NM when these two hitsounds have conflicts. I would prefer you to actually make all sub bass in NM that actually also have drumhit hitsounds into drumhit, which might be a pretty exhausting job. It's just a suggestion, since it will not harm if you just make all in NM in a different way, which keeps the consistency in itself. I am just with the purpose of keeping the consistency of the whole mapset so it depends on you.
yeah, it's right. I already changed it into Drumhit sound and keep same with EZ setting in HS

Maybe give it like 3 days to wait if there are other issues being brought up by other modders. If not, I will just rebubble it as soon as possible. Hopefully we can let it go and save osu!mania again.

luv ya

We really should give it a go then.
Issues are sorted out. Take care!

ww

sorry for late, but I have to check it


solid chart, nice work!

Garalulu wrote:

sorry for late, but I have to check it

[EZ]

1. 00:16:404 (16404|1) - should be drumhit.wav as other diffs did.
2. 00:19:775 - for melody progress, you should add one note here, it also has melody line.
3. 00:32:247 (32247|2) - should be hat.wav.
4. 00:55:168 (55168|3) - should be sub bass.wav.
5. 01:29:213 - 01:29:550 - for drum, adding LN as 01:28:033 (88033|1) - is better for me. It's heavy enough, should be mapped.
6. 01:34:100 (94100|2) - just putting one note at 1/1 line is not good idea tho. That sound starts at 01:34:100 (94100|2) - , so pattern should be same with sound. Making LN from 01:34:016 - to 01:34:269 - or just put one note at 01:34:016 - instead of 01:34:100 - is better tho.

[HXJ's NM]

1. 00:50:786 (50786|1) - it has 2 quite different sound, 00:50:786 - 00:50:954 - sounds like scratch, 00:50:954 - 00:51:291 - drum roll. I don't think it can be placed with one LN.

[HD]

1. 00:55:168 - 00:55:336 - drum roll part, only this part is mapped with 1/4 stream, rather than LN. it doesn't have heavy 1/4 thing, just one LN is better tho.

[Nightmare]

1. 00:13:202 (13202|3) - punk.wav is missing.
2. 00:56:516 (56516|3) - you used bass.wav for this but why not for 00:53:820 (53820|0) - ? I can't find difference when I listen this without adding hitsound.
3. 01:05:617 - drumhit.wav is missing.

solid chart, nice work!

Rip. now we need nuke

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