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Aistre

A r M i N wrote:

from #Modreqs :)

First things first i've seen a lot of blanket issues in your map and i am very picky when it comes to sth like blankets :D I am going to visualize it with screenshots
by the way, Blankets always line up with approach circles

[Insane]

00:05:134 (1,2) - Why is the spacing here so small ^^
00:06:943 (2,1) - Fix blanket http://puu.sh/s36rn/f4fb6ec465.jpg
00:10:562 (2,3) - Spacing a lil small no ?
00:11:919 (1,1) - Fix blanket http://puu.sh/s36Br/f5b442da2b.jpg
00:12:733 (3,1) - Fix blanket http://puu.sh/s36Fr/26d6e1f99f.jp
00:15:086 (2,2) - Fix blanket http://puu.sh/s36MM/80a852b06e.jpg
00:21:780 (1,3) - Not sure if this is supposed to be a blanket or not tbh
00:30:466 (1) - Curve that slider like that http://puu.sh/s36Xr/3442c681bf.jpg --> Copy --> Rotate by 120° and stack it with 00:30:285 (4) - http://puu.sh/s371n/aa85a0221e.jpg --> Copy --> Rotate by 120° and stack it with 00:30:104 (3) - -----> Nice xd: http://puu.sh/s375l/0233de2e49.jpg
00:32:999 (3,1) - http://puu.sh/s37bu/1a496d92d6.jpg
00:33:089 (1,1) - http://puu.sh/s37f1/72b1a73255.jpg
00:36:256 (1) - This one fucked me up at the first playthrough :D This is much better http://puu.sh/s37mu/07e4b3a40a.jpg better reading you know
Also try having the first curve at 00:36:799 - http://puu.sh/s37oc/9748f71a78.jpg And the 2nd one at 00:37:341 - http://puu.sh/s37pv/64b2ee3526.jpg

[Hard]

00:19:247 (3) - Fix blanket http://puu.sh/s37Eq/12e051c9af.jpg
00:19:971 (5) - That clap sounds wrong hmm
00:22:866 (5) - ^
00:25:761 (5) - ^
00:24:675 (1,3) - http://puu.sh/s37Ti/78c2f81173.jpg
00:26:847 (4,6) - fix blanket http://puu.sh/s37Xz/531b32d551.jpg
00:28:294 (3,5) - fix blanket http://puu.sh/s37YL/f21f5043c1.jpg
00:33:361 (1,3) - ^ http://puu.sh/s389G/6d097ead81.jpg
00:33:361 (1,3) - ^ http://puu.sh/s38cD/f7ce4a0f52.jpg
00:34:627 (4,1) - Stack if u apply the 2 before
00:35:532 (3,4) - http://puu.sh/s38gh/44bd269f2b.jpg

[Normal]

00:17:438 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/s38G1/8cd8807e43.jpg
00:20:333 (1,2) - ^

[Easy]

00:14:543 (1,1) - fix blanket
00:23:228 (1,2) - ^


I wish you good luck with ranking this :D
Thanks for the mod and the advice ^^
Fixed everything
Venix
#modreqs
Legend
Mod:
Light Suggestion
Normal Suggestion
Strong Suggestion
Unrankable
Check:
Perfect!
Need fix
Check
Timing
Metadata (Add Source: Gravity Falls)
Song Setup (Inconsisent Widescreen Support)

General Things

  1. I can't find any problems

Easy

Distance Snapping
Difficulty Settings
Flow and Patterning:
  1. 00:24:675 (1,2) - Hmm.. i think rotation of this two sliders look weird. Mby rotate first slider by -7°? This composition will make better flow and look!
  2. 00:15:990 (1,2) - 00:15:990 (1,2) - Imo you can make better flow, because natural movment after this slider will me linear. Try make it like this ↓
Combos and Rythm Things:
  1. It's okay!

Normal

Difficulty Settings
Distance Snapping:
  1. I don't know why Easy have higher DS than this diff. I think you can try re-distance snap this diff with 1.1DS
  2. 00:08:029 (2) - This slider is bad DSed
Flow and Patterning:
  1. 00:08:029 (2) - This slider doesn't fit with others. I prefer change it to linear slider.
Combos and Rythm Things:
  1. I think you can delete 00:07:124 (3) - this note and put 00:09:295 - here, because 00:09:295 - this 1/2 is stronger than 00:07:124. Making it like this will be better for constintancy and rythm feeling
Thats all! (sorry for no mod insane and hard, but i havent time rn)
~GL!
Topic Starter
Aistre

Venix wrote:

#modreqs
Legend
Mod:
Light Suggestion
Normal Suggestion
Strong Suggestion
Unrankable
Check:
Perfect!
Need fix
Check
Timing
Metadata (Add Source: Gravity Falls)
Song Setup (Inconsisent Widescreen Support)

General Things

  1. I can't find any problems

Easy

Distance Snapping
Difficulty Settings
Flow and Patterning:
  1. 00:24:675 (1,2) - Hmm.. i think rotation of this two sliders look weird. Mby rotate first slider by -7°? This composition will make better flow and look! Not sure about this, i think the pattern i have looks better because it's symmetrical.
  2. 00:15:990 (1,2) - 00:15:990 (1,2) - Imo you can make better flow, because natural movment after this slider will me linear. Try make it like this ↓
Combos and Rythm Things:
  1. It's okay!

Normal

Difficulty Settings
Distance Snapping:
  1. I don't know why Easy have higher DS than this diff. I think you can try re-distance snap this diff with 1.1DS This diff has alot higher DS?
  2. 00:08:029 (2) - This slider is bad DSed oops, didn't notice x)
Flow and Patterning:
  1. 00:08:029 (2) - This slider doesn't fit with others. I prefer change it to linear slider.
Combos and Rythm Things:
  1. I think you can delete 00:07:124 (3) - this note and put 00:09:295 - here, because 00:09:295 - this 1/2 is stronger than 00:07:124. Making it like this will be better for constintancy and rythm feeling
Thats all! (sorry for no mod insane and hard, but i havent time rn)
~GL! Thanks!
Cheers, everything unmentioned=fixed!
Venix
Look, Easy diff: 1.1 Distance Snap
Normal diff: 1.0 Distance Snap
Topic Starter
Aistre

Venix wrote:

Look, Easy diff: 1.1 Distance Snap
Normal diff: 1.0 Distance Snap
Yes but Normal diff has a higher slider velocity though, is it really much of a big deal?
_DT3
Wanted to mod, so here I go o/

[General]
  1. I think the hitsounds could be improved a bit. The song is one of the typical ones where most of the time you have a kick (represented by a whistle ideally) on the 1st & 3rd beat and a snare (represented by a clap ideally) on the 2nd and 4th. Thus, the hitsounds should be done accordingly. Example: 00:05:858 (1) - Should have a whistle because the kicks are on the first and third tick; 00:06:943 (2) - This should have a clap because the snare is there (4th tick); For cases like 00:08:753 (1) - just see on what tick each part is, like the head is on the first tick so it gets a whistle, repeat gets nothing because there is no hitsoundable sound there really and the tail gets a clap because it has a snare.
    Right now it just feels like you hitsounded to the main melody only, which shouldn't be done here really since you have a kick and snare. Remember to adjust every pattern that follows the pattern mentioned above
  2. I feel like adding the video would be great here, you can try to find someone to encode the video or get it with YellowManul's permission from this mapset
  3. Don't forget to add as source: Gravity Falls
  4. Tags you could add: TV television Alex Hirsch Dipper Mabel Grunkle Stan animation Disney XD Channel
    If you need an explanation: "TV" and "Television" because it aired on television, TV is the abbreviation of television (obviously)
    "animation" because it's an animated show
    "Alex Hirsch" because he is the creator of the show
    "Dipper", "Mabel" and "Grunkle Stan" because they are the most prominent characters in the show (and people might look for that in search)
    "Disney XD" and "Channel" because Disney XD and Disney Channel are the channels the show aired on (Having Disney 2x in the tags would be unnecessary)
  5. The spread on the Difficulty Settings could be improved imo, at least for the OD between Normal and Hard. The OD goes from 3.6 to 6.6, which is a very large jump. Try lowering the OD on Hard to something around 6
[Easy]
  1. 00:11:648 (1) - This does overlap with the HP bar a bit, which could be unrankable. Just move it down a bit
  2. 00:02:963 (1,1,2,1) - The flow on this just feels really off for no reason, even if symmetry was intended here, flow should have more priority here since it's an Easy diff
  3. 00:13:095 (1,1,1) - This triple NC could get confusing for beginners. Even if the NC is every downbeat, removing the NC 00:14:543 (1) - should be fine since the tempo of the map slows down anyways
  4. 00:23:228 (1,2) - I'd do the same pattern here as you did 00:17:438 (1,2) - because 00:17:438 (1,2) - is the only time this pattern is used in that way and that feels pretty random, doing the same pattern here 00:23:228 (1,2) - would be consistent and would make it less random. You could also just do the pattern 00:20:333 (1,2) - here too 00:17:438 (1,2) -
  5. 00:20:333 (1,1) - I am not sure about this overlap, it may be hard to read for beginners due to the hitburst of 00:20:333 (1) - covering 00:21:780 (1) - a bit
  6. 00:27:571 - Why leave out the note here? If you did it because you don't hear that whistle there, then what about 00:20:333 (1) - 00:23:228 (1) - 00:26:123 (1) - ? It just feels random to me
  7. 00:27:932 (1,1) - Again, this double NC could be confusing for beginners. Following the suggestion above, if you add a note here 00:27:571 -then you could NC it instead of 00:27:932 (1) -
  8. 00:29:018 - I'd just continue with the same volume as the kiai or quieter because it seems weird that the kiai isn't the loudest part although it should signifiy a more intense part than the rest
  9. 00:30:466 (1,2) - These should be different from 00:29:742 (3) - with the shape and flow imo because the pitch is noticeably higher there. An example would be like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6500443
  10. 00:34:808 - Timing Point is useful for what...?
  11. 00:33:361 (1,1,1) - About the NC again, could get confusing for beginners
  12. 00:36:256 - This timing point makes 00:36:256 (1) - pretty much inaudible because it's so quiet, and that's unrankable for clickable objects. Just move it to 00:36:437 - if you want to make the spinner more quiet
[Normal]
  1. 00:05:496 (3) - I'd curve this more upwards so that the visual flow is better: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6500507
  2. 00:10:200 (1) - Why is this a 2/1 slider even though there are background sounds that deserve to be mapped? If it is because that whistle is held here, then 00:05:858 (1) - should also be a long slider
  3. 00:11:286 (2,1) - Why the stack? It ruins the flow unfittingly because you have to stop moving for no reason
  4. 00:13:095 (1) - The same goes for this slider, this one should be separated into two 1/1 sliders. The long slider does fit here 00:14:543 (1) - though since it is in the last two measures before the kiai
  5. 00:22:504 (2,1,2) - The flow here is rather edgy in comparison to the rest of the kiai, I would make it flow better to be consistent
  6. 00:24:675 (1,2) - Same goes for this one, it flows really edgy in comparison to the rest. If it is because you didn't have more space to the right, the you have to adjust things more
  7. 00:33:361 (1,1,1) - The same points as in Easy also apply here, including the timing points
For now that is it, looks good in general though ^^
GL!
Topic Starter
Aistre

_DT3 wrote:

Wanted to mod, so here I go o/

[General]
  1. I think the hitsounds could be improved a bit. The song is one of the typical ones where most of the time you have a kick (represented by a whistle ideally) on the 1st & 3rd beat and a snare (represented by a clap ideally) on the 2nd and 4th. Thus, the hitsounds should be done accordingly. Example: 00:05:858 (1) - Should have a whistle because the kicks are on the first and third tick; 00:06:943 (2) - This should have a clap because the snare is there (4th tick); For cases like 00:08:753 (1) - just see on what tick each part is, like the head is on the first tick so it gets a whistle, repeat gets nothing because there is no hitsoundable sound there really and the tail gets a clap because it has a snare.
    Right now it just feels like you hitsounded to the main melody only, which shouldn't be done here really since you have a kick and snare. Remember to adjust every pattern that follows the pattern mentioned above
  2. I feel like adding the video would be great here, you can try to find someone to encode the video or get it with YellowManul's permission from this mapset
  3. Don't forget to add as source: Gravity Falls
  4. Tags you could add: TV television Alex Hirsch Dipper Mabel Grunkle Stan animation Disney XD Channel
    If you need an explanation: "TV" and "Television" because it aired on television, TV is the abbreviation of television (obviously)
    "animation" because it's an animated show
    "Alex Hirsch" because he is the creator of the show
    "Dipper", "Mabel" and "Grunkle Stan" because they are the most prominent characters in the show (and people might look for that in search)
    "Disney XD" and "Channel" because Disney XD and Disney Channel are the channels the show aired on (Having Disney 2x in the tags would be unnecessary)
  5. The spread on the Difficulty Settings could be improved imo, at least for the OD between Normal and Hard. The OD goes from 3.6 to 6.6, which is a very large jump. Try lowering the OD on Hard to something around 6
[Easy]
  1. 00:11:648 (1) - This does overlap with the HP bar a bit, which could be unrankable. Just move it down a bit
  2. 00:02:963 (1,1,2,1) - The flow on this just feels really off for no reason, even if symmetry was intended here, flow should have more priority here since it's an Easy diff I don't really think the flow is off, I even got somebody that only plays easy diffs to testplay and he didn't struggle here.
  3. 00:13:095 (1,1,1) - This triple NC could get confusing for beginners. Even if the NC is every downbeat, removing the NC 00:14:543 (1) - should be fine since the tempo of the map slows down anyways
  4. 00:23:228 (1,2) - I'd do the same pattern here as you did 00:17:438 (1,2) - because 00:17:438 (1,2) - is the only time this pattern is used in that way and that feels pretty random, doing the same pattern here 00:23:228 (1,2) - would be consistent and would make it less random. You could also just do the pattern 00:20:333 (1,2) - here too 00:17:438 (1,2) -
  5. 00:20:333 (1,1) - I am not sure about this overlap, it may be hard to read for beginners due to the hitburst of 00:20:333 (1) - covering 00:21:780 (1) - a bit
  6. 00:27:571 - Why leave out the note here? If you did it because you don't hear that whistle there, then what about 00:20:333 (1) - 00:23:228 (1) - 00:26:123 (1) - ? It just feels random to me I did this to emphasize the change in pitch same as 00:33:361 (1,1) -
  7. 00:27:932 (1,1) - Again, this double NC could be confusing for beginners. Following the suggestion above, if you add a note here 00:27:571 -then you could NC it instead of 00:27:932 (1) -
  8. 00:29:018 - I'd just continue with the same volume as the kiai or quieter because it seems weird that the kiai isn't the loudest part although it should signifiy a more intense part than the rest
  9. 00:30:466 (1,2) - These should be different from 00:29:742 (3) - with the shape and flow imo because the pitch is noticeably higher there. An example would be like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6500443 I fixed this, but instead i changed the shape of 00:30:466 (1) - because it's noticeably higher in pitch compared to the other two
  10. 00:34:808 - Timing Point is useful for what...?
  11. 00:33:361 (1,1,1) - About the NC again, could get confusing for beginners
  12. 00:36:256 - This timing point makes 00:36:256 (1) - pretty much inaudible because it's so quiet, and that's unrankable for clickable objects. Just move it to 00:36:437 - if you want to make the spinner more quiet
[Normal]
  1. 00:05:496 (3) - I'd curve this more upwards so that the visual flow is better: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6500507
  2. 00:10:200 (1) - Why is this a 2/1 slider even though there are background sounds that deserve to be mapped? If it is because that whistle is held here, then 00:05:858 (1) - should also be a long slider
  3. 00:11:286 (2,1) - Why the stack? It ruins the flow unfittingly because you have to stop moving for no reason
  4. 00:13:095 (1) - The same goes for this slider, this one should be separated into two 1/1 sliders. The long slider does fit here 00:14:543 (1) - though since it is in the last two measures before the kiai Imo this makes the rhythm of the map too complex because then pretty much all of the map is in 1/1 and one or two 2/1 sliders. I think this is too much for a Normal.
  5. 00:22:504 (2,1,2) - The flow here is rather edgy in comparison to the rest of the kiai, I would make it flow better to be consistent
  6. 00:24:675 (1,2) - Same goes for this one, it flows really edgy in comparison to the rest. If it is because you didn't have more space to the right, the you have to adjust things more
  7. 00:33:361 (1,1,1) - The same points as in Easy also apply here, including the timing points
For now that is it, looks good in general though ^^
GL!
Thanks for the mod ^^
Everything unmentioned = Fixed
DeRandom Otaku
o hi ~ from modreqs
this song is p cool

[General]
  1. Tags conflict with normal difficulty
[Easy]
  1. 00:01:515 - 00:04:410 - Make ur NC pattern more consistent
  2. 00:12:733 (2,1) - DS
  3. 00:27:571 - This is pretty much the same beat as 00:26:123 - but why did u skip this? i dont really think its necessary to leave it empty
  4. 00:27:932 (3) - Also this should be NC'd for consistency
  5. 00:36:256 (3) - NC
[Normal]
  1. 00:09:476 (3,1) - you could definitely improve this blanket
  2. 00:13:095 (1,2) - DS
  3. 00:34:808 (1,1) - This might be intention but i really dont see a reason for u to half the DS
[Hard]
  1. 00:10:200 (1,2) - Again , DS
  2. 00:36:256 (1) - You should really leave this DS'd for emphasis . Stacking it doesnt give it any spacing emphasis
[Insane]
  1. 00:04:410 - From here you starting NC'ing after every 2 white ticks which is just like overdoing NCs ~ its totally unnecessary even tho its an insane difficulty , theres no need for it
Not bad at all But structure will need some more work for neatness purposes
gl
Topic Starter
Aistre

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

o hi ~ from modreqs
this song is p cool

[General]
  1. Tags conflict with normal difficulty
[Easy]
  1. 00:01:515 - 00:04:410 - Make ur NC pattern more consistent
  2. 00:12:733 (2,1) - DS
  3. 00:27:571 - This is pretty much the same beat as 00:26:123 - but why did u skip this? i dont really think its necessary to leave it empty Instead I've removed the note at 00:26:123 to keep the same rhythm
  4. 00:27:932 (3) - Also this should be NC'd for consistency
  5. 00:36:256 (3) - NC
[Normal]
  1. 00:09:476 (3,1) - you could definitely improve this blanket
  2. 00:13:095 (1,2) - DS
  3. 00:34:808 (1,1) - This might be intention but i really dont see a reason for u to half the DS Oops, i don't think I updated it from when i last did.
[Hard]
  1. 00:10:200 (1,2) - Again , DS
  2. 00:36:256 (1) - You should really leave this DS'd for emphasis . Stacking it doesnt give it any spacing emphasis Hmm, I stacked them because I emphasised the sudden change in dynamics. I have unstacked it but I may change it again.
[Insane]
  1. 00:04:410 - From here you starting NC'ing after every 2 white ticks which is just like overdoing NCs ~ its totally unnecessary even tho its an insane difficulty , theres no need for it
Not bad at all But structure will need some more work for neatness purposes
gl
Thanks :)
PAJWOJ
hi m4m from modreqs
mystery
00:05:496 (3,4,5,6,1) - it looks ugly when not spaced equally imo
00:25:580 (5,2) - you can stack that
00:36:256 (1) - i would speed this up a bit it seems really slow
hard
00:05:496 (5,6) - you can change this to notes with low spacing
00:20:333 (1,2) - might be hard to read i suggest you move the note away a bit
00:23:228 (1,2) - ^
00:26:123 (1,2) - ^
00:27:571 (1,2) - ^
00:31:913 (1,2) - ^
normal
00:10:200 (1) - this slider has like the point out of it's track you might want to fix that

easy
00:10:200 (2,1) - overlap

sry for bad mod zzzzz
gl
Topic Starter
Aistre

PajWoj wrote:

hi m4m from modreqs
mystery
00:05:496 (3,4,5,6,1) - it looks ugly when not spaced equally imo I think it looks better with the emphasis of the new section of the song.
00:25:580 (5,2) - you can stack that I've made it like this to make it ever-so-slightly more readable because i found this hard to read with certain mod combinations.
00:36:256 (1) - i would speed this up a bit it seems really slow Hmm, I've seen people test the map and nobody has seemed to sruggle with the SV change.
hard
00:05:496 (5,6) - you can change this to notes with low spacing I think a burst at this BPM is a bit too extreme for a 3 star hard difficulty.
00:20:333 (1,2) - might be hard to read i suggest you move the note away a bit I don't think this is really hard to read, the player has more than enough time to react to the next note coming
00:23:228 (1,2) - ^ ^
00:26:123 (1,2) - ^ ^
00:27:571 (1,2) - ^ ^
00:31:913 (1,2) - ^ ^
normal
00:10:200 (1) - this slider has like the point out of it's track you might want to fix that This isn't really a problem?

easy
00:10:200 (2,1) - overlap I think this looks worse when overlapping these two, but i'll find a way to fix them from overlapping

sry for bad mod zzzzz
gl
Thanks for the mod, didn't really change much but I'll still give you kds for mentioning the "bradbreeck" tag issue :?
Juiceys
General
Your Sand Pale combo color really blends into the background, you probably want to change that

Mystery
00:21:780 (1,3) - Pixel blanket too much space on the top side of blanket
00:29:018 (1,3) - Blanket is off
00:33:361 (1,3) - On ( 3 ) the right side of the slider is too far out messing up the blanket
00:34:084 (3,1) - Is this supposed to be a blanket or nah? If it is it should be improved
00:29:018 (1,3) - Kind of a low quality blanket
00:30:466 (1,2,3) - Idk if it's intentional but all these blankets are off by just a little bit
00:13:819 (3,1) - Maybe blanket these?
00:14:905 (2,4) - Pixel blanket
00:18:523 (4,2) - Maybe tighten this blanket a bit?
00:13:095 (1,3) - This is pretty hard to read might want to move this a bit
Hard
00:11:648 (1,2) - Is this supposed to be a blanket?
00:23:228 (1,2) - This touches the health bar in default skin, you NEEDTo change this
00:26:847 (4,6) - Tighten this blanket
00:34:084 (3) - Tighten this to blanket 00:33:361 (1) - Better
00:35:532 (3,4) - Blanket is off
00:09:295 (2,1) - Blanket?
00:18:885 (1,3) - Pixel blanket

Normal
00:38:499 - You don't map this little end bit here, you probably want to add a slider like you did in the others to this
00:02:963 (1,2) - This isn't perfectly aligned
00:09:476 (3,1) - Blanket is off

Easy
00:10:200 (2,1) - Unnecessary overlap
00:13:095 (3,4) - Have ( 4 ) blanket the head of ( 3 )
00:36:256 (2,1) - Delete ( 2 ) and extend The spinner
00:38:427 - As mentioned in normal
00:33:361 (3,1) - Both blankets are off
00:23:228 (1,3) - Blanket?
Topic Starter
Aistre

Juiceys wrote:

General
Your Sand Pale combo color really blends into the background, you probably want to change that

Mystery
00:21:780 (1,3) - Pixel blanket too much space on the top side of blanket
00:29:018 (1,3) - Blanket is off
00:33:361 (1,3) - On ( 3 ) the right side of the slider is too far out messing up the blanket
00:34:084 (3,1) - Is this supposed to be a blanket or nah? If it is it should be improved That's not meant to be a blanket
00:29:018 (1,3) - Kind of a low quality blanket You mentioned this twice
00:30:466 (1,2,3) - Idk if it's intentional but all these blankets are off by just a little bit It's not even noticeable
00:13:819 (3,1) - Maybe blanket these? There's not enough space and it looks off anyway
00:14:905 (2,4) - Pixel blanket
00:18:523 (4,2) - Maybe tighten this blanket a bit?
00:13:095 (1,3) - This is pretty hard to read might want to move this a bit It's perfectly readable?
Hard
00:11:648 (1,2) - Is this supposed to be a blanket? No?
00:23:228 (1,2) - This touches the health bar in default skin, you NEEDTo change this
00:26:847 (4,6) - Tighten this blanket Don't really see the point tbh, looks fine as it is
00:34:084 (3) - Tighten this to blanket 00:33:361 (1) - Better
00:35:532 (3,4) - Blanket is off
00:09:295 (2,1) - Blanket? Mmm there's no point.
00:18:885 (1,3) - Pixel blanket

Normal
00:38:499 - You don't map this little end bit here, you probably want to add a slider like you did in the others to this I like the way it is right now because there isn't really a way to map this part without it having some huge fast slider.
00:02:963 (1,2) - This isn't perfectly aligned
00:09:476 (3,1) - Blanket is off

Easy
00:10:200 (2,1) - Unnecessary overlap It's barely noticeable in gameplay.
00:13:095 (3,4) - Have ( 4 ) blanket the head of ( 3 ) I don't want this to be a blanket
00:36:256 (2,1) - Delete ( 2 ) and extend The spinner Not really any point in this
00:38:427 - As mentioned in normal As mentioned in normal
00:33:361 (3,1) - Both blankets are off Wasn't intended to be a blanket
00:23:228 (1,3) - Blanket? ^
Thanks :)
Hollow Delta
From #modreqs doing m4m.
Mystery: (We IRC-ed) But I promised to re-mod.
00:04:772 (3,4) - You rotated it like I said in the IRC, but I don't think you did it enough because there's little to no difference. Try 15 degrees clockwise.
00:05:134 (1,2) - I think to keep going with the clockwise direction, you should ctrl+g these notes.
00:05:496 (3,4,5,6) - I personally think these claps are very disruptive. I suggest removing the claps or at least toning down the volume a bit.
00:13:819 (3) - I think a basic curved slider would've worked better here.
00:14:362 (4,5) - You don't need the claps here in my opinion because it's not mapped to anything, so the sound won't help the player. However, it's justified because it emphasizes the slider.
00:17:257 (4,5) - ^
The IRC:
SPOILER
17:07 Bubblun: 00:04:048 (4,5) -
17:08 Bubblun: Had to re-open the chat so the savelog wasn't so big.
17:08 Alphabet: Yeah, that looks alot better.
17:09 Bubblun: 00:04:772 (3,4) - While this works, I think it would look and play better if it was rotated a bit. (clockwise)
17:09 Bubblun: Because then it'll look proportional between the previous 2 notes and the next pair.
17:10 Alphabet: Okay
17:11 Bubblun: 00:07:305 (1) - The sliders forces the player to go clockwise.
17:12 Bubblun: 00:08:210 (4) - Because of that I think it makes more sense to move this up here:
17:12 Bubblun: x:360 7:96
17:13 Bubblun: 00:08:391 (5) - And if you do that move this note to continue the flow. x:220 y:200
17:17 Alphabet: I've changed it but I've done something a little different
17:17 Bubblun: 00:10:924 (4,5) - I think because of the clap you're showing exaggeration, so I suggest ctrl+g here./
17:18 Bubblun: I think snapping is a good way to show the players a note has exaggeration.
17:21 Alphabet: I'm not sure about this because I think an increase in spacing is how I like to exaggerate certain notes
17:21 Bubblun: That works too.
17:23 Bubblun: 00:22:142 (3,4) - Because of how high the SV and the spacing is, I don't think this plays very well.
17:24 Bubblun: Plus I don't hear any kind of exaggeration, so this spacing isn't supported in my opinion.
17:24 Bubblun: You could ctrl+g 4.
17:25 Alphabet: Yeah, agreed
17:26 Bubblun: 00:25:580 (5,6) - The flow was going counter-clockwise. Why the change in direction on a weak note?
17:31 Alphabet: Fixed
17:32 Bubblun: 00:34:084 (3) - This is a very strong note. I suggest horizontally flipping it.
17:34 Bubblun: 00:36:256 (1) - Also last one. I suggest straightening this triangle out.
17:34 Alphabet: I've changed for now because I know what you mean but I might reconsider because the flow is weird
17:34 Bubblun: Maybe.
17:35 Bubblun: I'm looking at in and noticing it increases the distance a bit, but the change is justified by the strenght of the note.
17:35 Bubblun: I can mod the rest in the thread.
17:36 Alphabet: Okay

Hard
00:08:572 (5,6) - While a triple here? This is a very weak part of the song, yet you don't do this anymore? If you think this doens't make sense as well, I'd remove the second note.

Normal
00:30:466 (1,2) - In my opinion, it's a bit inconsistent to not place claps here.
00:33:361 (1,2) - ^

Easy
00:11:648 (1) - I recommend adjusting the tail so it's not being overlapped.
00:13:095 (3) - I suggest moving this so it forms a triangle with the end of 1 and 2.
00:23:228 (1,2,3) - Why no claps?
Topic Starter
Aistre

Bubblun wrote:

From #modreqs doing m4m.
Mystery: (We IRC-ed) But I promised to re-mod.
00:04:772 (3,4) - You rotated it like I said in the IRC, but I don't think you did it enough because there's little to no difference. Try 15 degrees clockwise.
00:05:134 (1,2) - I think to keep going with the clockwise direction, you should ctrl+g these notes. I don't like this idea because the change in direction emphasizes the buildup to the new section of the song.
00:05:496 (3,4,5,6) - I personally think these claps are very disruptive. I suggest removing the claps or at least toning down the volume a bit.
00:13:819 (3) - I think a basic curved slider would've worked better here. Idk I like this idea because it brings out a little change in the map.
00:14:362 (4,5) - You don't need the claps here in my opinion because it's not mapped to anything, so the sound won't help the player. However, it's justified because it emphasizes the slider.
00:17:257 (4,5) - ^ I'm going to keep both of these because I like emphasis.
The IRC:
SPOILER
17:07 Bubblun: 00:04:048 (4,5) -
17:08 Bubblun: Had to re-open the chat so the savelog wasn't so big.
17:08 Alphabet: Yeah, that looks alot better.
17:09 Bubblun: 00:04:772 (3,4) - While this works, I think it would look and play better if it was rotated a bit. (clockwise)
17:09 Bubblun: Because then it'll look proportional between the previous 2 notes and the next pair.
17:10 Alphabet: Okay
17:11 Bubblun: 00:07:305 (1) - The sliders forces the player to go clockwise.
17:12 Bubblun: 00:08:210 (4) - Because of that I think it makes more sense to move this up here:
17:12 Bubblun: x:360 7:96
17:13 Bubblun: 00:08:391 (5) - And if you do that move this note to continue the flow. x:220 y:200
17:17 Alphabet: I've changed it but I've done something a little different
17:17 Bubblun: 00:10:924 (4,5) - I think because of the clap you're showing exaggeration, so I suggest ctrl+g here./
17:18 Bubblun: I think snapping is a good way to show the players a note has exaggeration.
17:21 Alphabet: I'm not sure about this because I think an increase in spacing is how I like to exaggerate certain notes
17:21 Bubblun: That works too.
17:23 Bubblun: 00:22:142 (3,4) - Because of how high the SV and the spacing is, I don't think this plays very well.
17:24 Bubblun: Plus I don't hear any kind of exaggeration, so this spacing isn't supported in my opinion.
17:24 Bubblun: You could ctrl+g 4.
17:25 Alphabet: Yeah, agreed
17:26 Bubblun: 00:25:580 (5,6) - The flow was going counter-clockwise. Why the change in direction on a weak note?
17:31 Alphabet: Fixed
17:32 Bubblun: 00:34:084 (3) - This is a very strong note. I suggest horizontally flipping it.
17:34 Bubblun: 00:36:256 (1) - Also last one. I suggest straightening this triangle out.
17:34 Alphabet: I've changed for now because I know what you mean but I might reconsider because the flow is weird
17:34 Bubblun: Maybe.
17:35 Bubblun: I'm looking at in and noticing it increases the distance a bit, but the change is justified by the strenght of the note.
17:35 Bubblun: I can mod the rest in the thread.
17:36 Alphabet: Okay

Hard
00:08:572 (5,6) - While a triple here? This is a very weak part of the song, yet you don't do this anymore? If you think this doens't make sense as well, I'd remove the second note.

Normal
00:30:466 (1,2) - In my opinion, it's a bit inconsistent to not place claps here.
00:33:361 (1,2) - ^

Easy
00:11:648 (1) - I recommend adjusting the tail so it's not being overlapped.
00:13:095 (3) - I suggest moving this so it forms a triangle with the end of 1 and 2.
00:23:228 (1,2,3) - Why no claps?
Thanks for the mod :)
Sakurauchi Riko
hi, from #modreqs

Easy
00:19:609 (4,1,2) - make the pattern look like a equaliteral triangle for better structure http://puu.sh/sv4B1/8a3fc65311.jpg
00:23:228 (1,3) - aesthetically not the prettiest, i suggest you to blanket 00:23:228 (1,3) - and let the slidertail of (3) stakced with the tail of 00:22:504 (4) -

Normal
nothing objectively wrong here. personally it looks a bit unstructured because you use less blankets and patterns. keep in mind you can easily create structure with the equaliteral triangles i mentioned in Easy, e.g. at 00:25:399 (2,1,2) - 00:27:932 (2,1,2) - or 00:22:504 (2,1,2) -
Blankets maybe at 00:09:476 (3,1) - 00:14:543 (1,1) -
definetely blanket 00:17:438 (1,2) - and 00:20:333 (1,2) -

Hard
00:09:295 (2,3,1) - equaliteral triangle for structure (looks pretty messy rn)
00:14:905 (2,3,4) - ^
00:11:648 (1,2) - suggest to blanket this
00:17:800 (2,3) - this flows bad, there is no special sound for 00:18:162 (3) - so you should let them flow better (currently the cursor tends to the slidertail of (3) so u have to move an awkward way downwards to hit the head)
00:20:333 (1,2) - swap NC's. 00:20:695 (2) - is the beginning of a new section (which gets repeated over and over again) and not the downbeat. apply this for all equal spots like 00:23:228 (1,2) - 00:26:123 (1,2) - and so on. esception is 00:29:018 (1) - because its special sound, you could still add NC at following object

keep in mind to blanket easy spots like 00:35:532 (3,4) - which makes your diff look soooo much cleaner! :D

Thats it for me, can only mod easy diffs
Hope i could helped you a bit :)

Best of luck with your map and happy mapping! (:
kappaToast
Mod incoming!






Mystery:



Just use AR=9 insted of AR=8,8 becouse if you gonna use AR=8, the slider velo should be bit lower and if its higher AR use bit higher slider. Just to even them out



00:13:819 (3) - why that slider has a corner. it make no sence, becouse it repeats like that 00:13:095 (1) previus slider

00:23:137 (6) - I whould just remove that circle.

00:14:362 (4,5,1) - 00:08:572 (6,7,1) - 00:17:257 (4,5,1) - 00:20:152 (6,7,1) - 00:25:942 (7,8,1) - 00:27:390 (4,5,1) - 00:28:837 (4,5,1) - 00:31:732 (5,6,1) - 00:36:075 (6,7,1) - This not a really mistake, but triple notes are ment to abstract and make them bit louder importaint sounds in the music. Not fill up emety rooms.

00:23:137 (6) - just remove that circle or rework 00:22:866 (5,6,1) that bear some how.








Bubblun`s Insane:


Please lower slider velo from 1.60 to 1.40 or lower. set "beat snap sivisor" on 1/4 and fix all slider


00:05:496 (4,5,1,2) - I would make repeated slider sinsted of a 1/4 jump between these sliders

00:38:427 (1) - here should be slider insted of just a circle.






Hard:

00:05:496 (5,6) - its way better to make a repeated slider insted, and that is just it

Perfect distance between objects :)






Normal:

PERFECT!






Easy:


PERFECT!
Topic Starter
Aistre

Phyloukz wrote:

hi, from #modreqs

Easy
00:19:609 (4,1,2) - make the pattern look like a equaliteral triangle for better structure http://puu.sh/sv4B1/8a3fc65311.jpg
00:23:228 (1,3) - aesthetically not the prettiest, i suggest you to blanket 00:23:228 (1,3) - and let the slidertail of (3) stakced with the tail of 00:22:504 (4) - This makes the patten feel more clustered than before however I'm going to try and make a workaround so it doesn't look that way.

Normal
nothing objectively wrong here. personally it looks a bit unstructured because you use less blankets and patterns. keep in mind you can easily create structure with the equaliteral triangles i mentioned in Easy, e.g. at 00:25:399 (2,1,2) - 00:27:932 (2,1,2) - or 00:22:504 (2,1,2) -
Blankets maybe at 00:09:476 (3,1) - 00:14:543 (1,1) -
definetely blanket 00:17:438 (1,2) - and 00:20:333 (1,2) -

Hard
00:09:295 (2,3,1) - equaliteral triangle for structure (looks pretty messy rn)
00:14:905 (2,3,4) - ^ This looks better how it is.
00:11:648 (1,2) - suggest to blanket this Blanketing this makes it look messy.
00:17:800 (2,3) - this flows bad, there is no special sound for 00:18:162 (3) - so you should let them flow better (currently the cursor tends to the slidertail of (3) so u have to move an awkward way downwards to hit the head) That's kinda the pattern to indicate that it's the start of the new section of the song / kiai.
00:20:333 (1,2) - swap NC's. 00:20:695 (2) - is the beginning of a new section (which gets repeated over and over again) and not the downbeat. apply this for all equal spots like 00:23:228 (1,2) - 00:26:123 (1,2) - and so on. esception is 00:29:018 (1) - because its special sound, you could still add NC at following object I don't like this because not having NCs on a downbeat looks weird and inconsistent compared to the rest of the map where I pretty much have NCs on every downbeat.

keep in mind to blanket easy spots like 00:35:532 (3,4) - which makes your diff look soooo much cleaner! :D

Thats it for me, can only mod easy diffs
Hope i could helped you a bit :)

Best of luck with your map and happy mapping! (:
Thank you :)
Everything unmentioned was fixed.
Topic Starter
Aistre

kappaToast wrote:

Mod incoming!






Mystery:



Just use AR=9 insted of AR=8,8 becouse if you gonna use AR=8, the slider velo should be bit lower and if its higher AR use bit higher slider. Just to even them out Hmm, it's not hard enough to be AR9 due to the BPM because it's considerably lower than some maps. If I use a faster AR the map looks fast for what it actually is.



00:13:819 (3) - why that slider has a corner. it make no sence, becouse it repeats like that 00:13:095 (1) previus slider I don't see the problem in this, I've seen people use this pattern multiple times in maps under pretty much the same situation like this.

00:23:137 (6) - I whould just remove that circle. Why?

00:14:362 (4,5,1) - 00:08:572 (6,7,1) - 00:17:257 (4,5,1) - 00:20:152 (6,7,1) - 00:25:942 (7,8,1) - 00:27:390 (4,5,1) - 00:28:837 (4,5,1) - 00:31:732 (5,6,1) - 00:36:075 (6,7,1) - This not a really mistake, but triple notes are ment to abstract and make them bit louder importaint sounds in the music. Not fill up emety rooms. These triples are made to emphasize those higher pitched notes that come after it.

00:23:137 (6) - just remove that circle or rework 00:22:866 (5,6,1) that bear some how. You've mentioned this twice, but why?








Bubblun`s Insane:


Please lower slider velo from 1.60 to 1.40 or lower. set "beat snap sivisor" on 1/4 and fix all slider


00:05:496 (4,5,1,2) - I would make repeated slider sinsted of a 1/4 jump between these sliders

00:38:427 (1) - here should be slider insted of just a circle.






Hard:

00:05:496 (5,6) - its way better to make a repeated slider insted, and that is just it Why though? To me this is good enough because it introduces players to some 1/4 patterns which a hard should include. It makes a considerable step up in rhythm to a normal difficulty and it prepares the new players for moving up to insane maps.

Perfect distance between objects :)






Normal:

PERFECT!






Easy:


PERFECT!
Thanks for your mod, I've given you kds because you've tried bringing up some issues however you need to explain why certain things should not be there. For example, saying that I should remove a circle for no reason doesn't help with improving the map, including why it should be removed does help me.
Hollow Delta

kappaToast wrote:

Mod incoming!

Bubblun`s Insane:


Please lower slider velo from 1.60 to 1.40 or lower. set "beat snap sivisor" on 1/4 and fix all slider Why?


00:05:496 (4,5,1,2) - I would make repeated slider sinsted of a 1/4 jump between these sliders A repeated slider doesn't match the intensity and the difficulty of the song though.

00:38:427 (1) - here should be slider insted of just a circle.
It's very subtle, which is why I didn't use a slider. Plus I like the sneakiness of it.
Like Alphabet said, at least explain why changes should be made, because if you don't explain the only reason I see to why I should change it is 'It's too hard'.
When it comes to mapping, that's not a valid reason.
polka

You asked me to look at insane so here we go~

[General:]
  • Anything to prove that's the title of this track?
[Insane:]
  • -Why are clap samples not on claps in the song in the beginning?
    -I would get a custom clap sample that's a quieter version of the original, that way, the claps don't overpower, and you can still hear the whistle and finish.
    00:01:515 (3) - Make this a 1/2 slider to avoid the awkward pause and misspacing.
    [list:1337]00:00:068 (1) - ^
    00:02:963 (3) - ^
00:15:267 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Make the sliders go faster every time because this is a build up to the chorus.
00:18:523 (5) - Not only is this too close, it just doesn't fit there. You can keep your circular flow if you move it to the right of (4). Keeps it from looking cramped too.
00:17:800 (3,4,5,1,2) - Why copy and paste? Keep the gameplay varied and make new patterns
Curved sliders would add some nice varied game play.[Afterword:]
  • Cool patterns. Good luck.
Hollow Delta

PolkaMocha wrote:


You asked me to look at insane so here we go~

[General:]
  • Anything to prove that's the title of this track?
[Insane:]
  • -Why are clap samples not on claps in the song in the beginning? I didn't hitsound it, so I don't know.
    -I would get a custom clap sample that's a quieter version of the original, that way, the claps don't overpower, and you can still hear the whistle and finish. Sounds cool.
    00:01:515 (3) - Make this a 1/2 slider to avoid the awkward pause and misspacing. It's the beginning though, I don't wanna make it more intense than it really is.
    [list:1337]00:00:068 (1) - ^ ^
    00:02:963 (3) - ^ ^
00:15:267 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Make the sliders go faster every time because this is a build up to the chorus. In reality this part isn't really building up or falling down, yet I wanted to show the Kiai was about to show up. If I made it faster instead of slower it would've been overdone. Making the sliders slower however allows me to show a change while staying pure to the song.
00:18:523 (5) - Not only is this too close, it just doesn't fit there. You can keep your circular flow if you move it to the right of (4). Keeps it from looking cramped too. This slight difference in spacing is justified. If I move it any forther it would make 1 of the next combo seem weaker than it actually is.
00:17:800 (3,4,5,1,2) - Why copy and paste? Keep the gameplay varied and make new patterns I only copied a single slider so I could keep an exact degree to the curves of my sliders, I just mapped it like the previous pattern.
Curved sliders would add some nice varied game play. I create themes with my sliders. I use the red ones for the whistles, and the curved ones for the rest.[Afterword:]
  • Cool patterns. Good luck.
Sorry, but none applied. :(
Topic Starter
Aistre

PolkaMocha wrote:

  • Anything to prove that's the title of this track?
I did a quick google search and found this https://soundcloud.com/bradbreeck/gravity-falls-theme-song

Sure it's not exactly the same title but there's already a ranked map with "Gravity Falls Main Title Theme"
tomadoi
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[Bubblun's Insane]

00:19:971 (4,1) - 1/1 Slider instead

00:22:866 (4,5) - ^

cant find anything else :/

Good luck :D
Hollow Delta

Tomadoi wrote:

hi from #modreqs

[Bubblun's Insane]

00:19:971 (4,1) - 1/1 Slider instead Why?

00:22:866 (4,5) - ^ ^

cant find anything else :/

Good luck :D
Sorry, nothing applied. Maybe next time. :(
HappyRocket88
Ohayo~ Modding Bubblun's diff as per my request with the fantastic m4m I promised with Mr. Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz >3<

[ Bubblun's Insane]
Comment: Really solid difficulty! >w< Astonishing work with the flows and the overall transition you've built up here. \(>◡<)/ Some arrangements and minor aesthetics can be slightly improved. Let's start:

  1. First of all, the Approach Rate seems somewhat fast considering how fluent the difficulty is. Raising it to 8.6 would just make things unnecessary hard to read when most of the patterns transit well among each other. Therefore, I do believe reducing it to 8.2 or even 8 would feel way better. :)
  2. Regarding the Overall Difficulty, I see you wanted to have it on a high value seeing the density of jumps but considering the spread, it would make more sense if there were more 1/4 rhythms so the 7.5 would be actually justified. Hence, I think it would be more suitable if we reduced it until 7 so the value would fit much better with the actual density of the objects of the difficulty. what do you think? o:
  3. I think this is a general stuff, but thanks to the small CS you decided to map this difficulty, the Combo Color 3 blends too much with the background which ends making patterns like these 00:07:667 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 00:33:361 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - unnecessary hard to read. Setting a darker color would replace nicely this color or even a bright green one to complement the actual colors Mr. Alphabet set up for his map. Here's the code with various screenshots of different colors that may appeal better the visibility of the objects:
    Image + codes
    Combo4 : 128,255,128

    []
    Combo4 : 0,64,128
  4. I find it really interesting the first segment of the map with the anti-flows patterning; however, I'm afraid is a good idea considering the high-spacing it uses. Apparently, this kind of transitions are unexpected to people to click due to distance not being clearly enough among the 1/2 objects. Issue that would made players lose their combo because the 1/1 and 1/2 aren't suggesting a perceptive transition here, that is to say a better arrangement could be done here instead. I reckon to analyze the possibility to make something smoother and more catchy to player instead of the pattern in matter. For instance, what about using stacks in order to separate one beat from another? That would be making these beats 00:02:058 (4,1) - 00:00:610 (2,1) - 00:03:505 (4,1) - to be on top of each other in order to make a more comfortable pattern to click and follow.

    Spacing related Issues
    In the following list, you'll read some minor inconsistencies that the actual difficulty represent that differ form the way I see things. Nothing of them are a must-change-thing since they correspond to the eye of the beholder but they're worth to give them a try: :)
  5. 00:06:943 (5,1) - Distance between these two objects can be higher just as well as you've built up the spacing over previous patterns which were actually quite similar. Just to put a examples can be: 00:05:858 (1,2) -
  6. 00:12:552 (4,1) - Frankly speaking, the lower distance here, while it might look intended, played awkwardly confusing since the hitburst of the non-stack object 00:12:371 (3) - plus the lower distance made this transition not really appealing to look nor play. I do believe managing higher spacing as you've done previously would soothe the actual momentum this section reckons.
  7. 00:15:267 (1,2,3) - Here the distance was relative shorter compared to the others slider-circle-circle patterns. Minor but I think it would hurt no one to actually make them consistent. Give it a try! :oops:
  8. *quick note* I loved like holy jesus the transition you created here 00:15:267 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - through the slowing the sv to give the kiai much more emphasis and a nice entrance with this lowering. Creative arrangement! :3 However, I'm not really sure of the distance between of the slider-circle-circle pattern. It seems to be the same but I don't really get is why if the sliders have less impact in terms on how fast players will click them, the spacing og the stacks of circle remains the same? I know this might be up to your style but I feel managing a larger DS 00:16:714 (1,2) - seems over-spaced. Therefore, I think using lower distance to each pair of slider-circle-circle pattern would fit way more better and would keep up nicer the idea you've brought up in this segment.
  9. 00:31:189 (3,4) - I'm not sure why the distance here was reduced considerably even knowing the pretty nice 00:30:466 (1,2,3) - arrangement you've built up here. For it, I think it would play better if this distance actually kept up the spacing you aimed over this segment.
  10. 00:32:999 (5,1) - Something similar occurs here. The main spacing doesn't feel right with this low DS imo.

    New Combos
    Nothing much to say regarding the usage of new combos since most of them are nicely placed and give players a sense of why they are there. Nonetheless, I don't know whether the following ones are inconsistencies or may have a subliminal intention behind them I didn't catch and I'd love to hear in case it does:
  11. 00:12:733 (1) - I think this NC is not needed according to how you placed the previous NC. Then, I think if we remove it there and add it here instead 00:13:095 (2) - would fix up this issue. :3
  12. 00:23:228 (5) - Similar issue but I think, in order to keep consistent the way you placed NC, this beat deserves to be a (1) instead as well as you've followed up the NC till now. Do not forget to remove the NC on 00:23:590 (1) - in case you agree.
  13. 00:35:532 (4) - This one isn't an inconsistency but what about adding NC here? The idea here is to explain the raising of the spacing with a new combo since it increases among the objects appear over this section. What do you think? o:

    Blanket Related Issues
    Nazi Nation have come and minor arrangements, off-pixels and overall placement of objects have the floor now. Really minor to point out since most of the difficulty is aesthetically attractive and look tidy, except from these ones:
  14. 00:02:239 (1,2) - Blanket can be slightly improved here. An easy way could be by moving the first and last move some pixels to the left in order to make the approach rate of the circle cover nicely the slider-body of (2) making an arrangement like:
  15. 00:03:686 (1,2) - Same goes here. /u\ Moving the second grey node would fix this quickly. owo7
  16. 00:04:410 (1,2,3) - 1 and 2 seems really off. ;w; By moving the second point of each slider we can make more appealing blankets among this kawaii pattern. \:3/ Give it a try! ;w;
  17. 00:27:571 (1) - Stack if possible. ;w; Looks somewhat in tidy in the right side of the slider-ends imo.
  18. 00:19:247 (2,3) - Move 00:19:609 (3) - ctrl + ← two times.
  19. 00:29:380 (3,5) - They can be parallel instead of making a weird angle among the sliderborders. ;w; This can be fixed by moving the second grey node of (5) to the left until they make a visual parallel version with the sliderborder of (3)

    Hitsounds suggestions desu!
    Yes, I'm tired but still looked up some hitsounds that may be added according to the way you hear them. Although Alphabet hitsounded it, some beats feel weird since the hitsound copier isn't perfect yet. ;w;
  20. 00:36:075 (7) - This clap is unnecessary since the track itself doesn't support it, it would be better if you switched it with 00:36:256 (1) - instead.
  21. 00:36:346 (1) - What about a whistle here to highlight the sound of this beat? o:
Best of success with the diff! Thanks Again Alphabet for the m4m. :3 Good luck and happy mapping! STARRRR! :D

BubbleGum, did you ever play Puzzle Bobble Bust-A-Move? Your nick really reminds me to that old game! /u\
Cosmolade
woo
Gravity Falls
Take my star! :3/
Heil Bill

/me runs*
Hollow Delta

HappyRocket88 wrote:

Ohayo~ Modding Bubblun's diff as per my request with the fantastic m4m I promised with Mr. Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz >3<

HOLY this mod is bigger than how my school projects turn out. RESPECT!
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[ Bubblun's Insane]
[b]Comment: Really solid difficulty! >w< Astonishing work with the flows and the overall transition you've built up here. \(>◡<)/ Some arrangements and minor aesthetics can be slightly improved. Let's start:

  1. First of all, the Approach Rate seems somewhat fast considering how fluent the difficulty is. Raising it to 8.6 would just make things unnecessary hard to read when most of the patterns transit well among each other. Therefore, I do believe reducing it to 8.2 or even 8 would feel way better. :) I was kinda thinking the same thing, because it was an Insane like Mystery, yet slightly easier, so I thought just slightly lower AR than that would do. But 8.2 sounds more consistent though. Fixed.
  2. Regarding the Overall Difficulty, I see you wanted to have it on a high value seeing the density of jumps but considering the spread, it would make more sense if there were more 1/4 rhythms so the 7.5 would be actually justified. Hence, I think it would be more suitable if we reduced it until 7 so the value would fit much better with the actual density of the objects of the difficulty. what do you think? o: I personally just like how OD7.5 plays, While you're right it's slightly overboard, I find that fun personally.
  3. I think this is a general stuff, but thanks to the small CS you decided to map this difficulty, the Combo Color 3 blends too much with the background which ends making patterns like these 00:07:667 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 00:33:361 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - unnecessary hard to read. Setting a darker color would replace nicely this color or even a bright green one to complement the actual colors Mr. Alphabet set up for his map. Here's the code with various screenshots of different colors that may appeal better the visibility of the objects:
    Image + codes
    Combo4 : 128,255,128

    []
    Combo4 : 0,64,128
    Although I'll let Alphabet handle the coloring since they have the metadata, I like the bright green because not only does it contrast the BG it's visible on a dimmed BG as well. Consider this, Alpha!
  4. I find it really interesting the first segment of the map with the anti-flows patterning; however, I'm afraid is a good idea considering the high-spacing it uses. Apparently, this kind of transitions are unexpected to people to click due to distance not being clearly enough among the 1/2 objects. Issue that would made players lose their combo because the 1/1 and 1/2 aren't suggesting a perceptive transition here, that is to say a better arrangement could be done here instead. I reckon to analyze the possibility to make something smoother and more catchy to player instead of the pattern in matter. For instance, what about using stacks in order to separate one beat from another? That would be making these beats 00:02:058 (4,1) - 00:00:610 (2,1) - 00:03:505 (4,1) - to be on top of each other in order to make a more comfortable pattern to click and follow. I wanted this section to be snappy, which is why I chose this spacing. And I tried making it easier to read by applying NC on notes like 00:03:686 (1) - but I guess the song doesn't justify the snappiness, so I'll fix it.

    Spacing related Issues
    In the following list, you'll read some minor inconsistencies that the actual difficulty represent that differ form the way I see things. Nothing of them are a must-change-thing since they correspond to the eye of the beholder but they're worth to give them a try: :)
  5. 00:06:943 (5,1) - Distance between these two objects can be higher just as well as you've built up the spacing over previous patterns which were actually quite similar. Just to put a examples can be: 00:05:858 (1,2) -
  6. 00:12:552 (4,1) - Frankly speaking, the lower distance here, while it might look intended, played awkwardly confusing since the hitburst of the non-stack object The player doesn't have as much momentum here as 00:05:858 - where the kick sliders force the player to speed up, and thus larger spacing so they don't miss-read. 00:12:371 (3) - plus the lower distance made this transition not really appealing to look nor play. I do believe managing higher spacing as you've done previously would soothe the actual momentum this section reckons. Can't think of anything better to do but this. The jump hopefully shows enough emphasis; http://puu.sh/swYsZ/39c0ed4ad0.jpg

    Fixed.
  7. 00:15:267 (1,2,3) - Here the distance was relative shorter compared to the others slider-circle-circle patterns. Minor but I think it would hurt no one to actually make them consistent. Give it a try! :oops: Fixed.
  8. *quick note* I loved like holy jesus the transition you created here 00:15:267 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - through the slowing the sv to give the kiai much more emphasis and a nice entrance with this lowering. Creative arrangement! :3 However, I'm not really sure of the distance between of the slider-circle-circle pattern. It seems to be the same but I don't really get is why if the sliders have less impact in terms on how fast players will click them, the spacing og the stacks of circle remains the same? I know this might be up to your style but I feel managing a larger DS 00:16:714 (1,2) - seems over-spaced. Therefore, I think using lower distance to each pair of slider-circle-circle pattern would fit way more better and would keep up nicer the idea you've brought up in this segment. The reason I didn't change the distance between the circles and the slider was because while yes, the distance didn't change, but the TOTAL distance between the slider and the circles decreased, which seemed like enough to show we're building up for something. I did fix that minor mistake you pointed out.
  9. 00:31:189 (3,4) - I'm not sure why the distance here was reduced considerably even knowing the pretty nice 00:30:466 (1,2,3) - arrangement you've built up here. For it, I think it would play better if this distance actually kept up the spacing you aimed over this segment. You're right. Don't know what I was thinking. Fixed.
  10. 00:32:999 (5,1) - Something similar occurs here. The main spacing doesn't feel right with this low DS imo. ^

    New Combos
    Nothing much to say regarding the usage of new combos since most of them are nicely placed and give players a sense of why they are there. Nonetheless, I don't know whether the following ones are inconsistencies or may have a subliminal intention behind them I didn't catch and I'd love to hear in case it does:
  11. 00:12:733 (1) - I think this NC is not needed according to how you placed the previous NC. Then, I think if we remove it there and add it here instead 00:13:095 (2) - would fix up this issue. :3 I placed NC here because of the 'whistle' *Did you also notice when I mapped the whistles I used corner-sliders instead of basic curves? :o But there makes sense as well. Fixed.
  12. 00:23:228 (5) - Similar issue but I think, in order to keep consistent the way you placed NC, this beat deserves to be a (1) instead as well as you've followed up the NC till now. Do not forget to remove the NC on 00:23:590 (1) - in case you agree. Fixed.
  13. 00:35:532 (4) - This one isn't an inconsistency but what about adding NC here? The idea here is to explain the raising of the spacing with a new combo since it increases among the objects appear over this section. What do you think? o: I didn't feel I had to because it was a gradual rise, and thus the player wouldn't need NC to help them read, but the unique sound there justifies it. Fixed.

    Blanket Related Issues
    Nazi Nation have come and minor arrangements, off-pixels and overall placement of objects have the floor now. Really minor to point out since most of the difficulty is aesthetically attractive and look tidy, except from these ones:
  14. 00:02:239 (1,2) - Blanket can be slightly improved here. An easy way could be by moving the first and last move some pixels to the left in order to make the approach rate of the circle cover nicely the slider-body of (2) making an arrangement like:
    I applied your change from earlier, so it's not really a blanket now. :P
  15. 00:03:686 (1,2) - Same goes here. /u\ Moving the second grey node would fix this quickly. owo7 ^
  16. 00:04:410 (1,2,3) - 1 and 2 seems really off. ;w; By moving the second point of each slider we can make more appealing blankets among this kawaii pattern. \:3/ Give it a try! ;w; Fixed.
  17. 00:27:571 (1) - Stack if possible. ;w; Looks somewhat in tidy in the right side of the slider-ends imo. They were supposed to be stacked, whoops! Fixed.
  18. 00:19:247 (2,3) - Move 00:19:609 (3) - ctrl + ← two times. Fixed.
  19. 00:29:380 (3,5) - They can be parallel instead of making a weird angle among the sliderborders. ;w; This can be fixed by moving the second grey node of (5) to the left until they make a visual parallel version with the sliderborder of (3) You mean to simply fix the alignment? I don't need two sentences to know that you goof! Fixed.


    Hitsounds suggestions desu!
    Yes, I'm tired but still looked up some hitsounds that may be added according to the way you hear them. Although Alphabet hitsounded it, some beats feel weird since the hitsound copier isn't perfect yet. ;w;
  20. 00:36:075 (7) - This clap is unnecessary since the track itself doesn't support it, it would be better if you switched it with 00:36:256 (1) - instead.
  21. 00:36:346 (1) - What about a whistle here to highlight the sound of this beat? o:
Fixed all hitsounds!

Best of success with the diff! Thanks Again Alphabet for the m4m. :3 Good luck and happy mapping! STARRRR! :D

BubbleGum, did you ever play Puzzle Bobble Bust-A-Move? Your nick really reminds me to that old game! /u\
I HIGHLY respect you for making such a large, yet high-quality mod. Why is everyone only modding my diff though?

Yea, I've played Puzzle Bobble, which is a spin-off of the game Bubble Bobble, where player one is a green dragon named 'Babby' and in the Japanese version, 'Bubblun' hence the name. A game me and my mom have enjoyed for ages.

Edit: Realizing I accidentally applied color to the mods along with my response. xD I apply mods with blue, so if you can't see the response immediately I probably did it. lol

Updated diff: http://puu.sh/swZzs/bf79ffcccb.osu
Topic Starter
Aistre

Cosmolade wrote:

woo
Gravity Falls
Take my star! :3/
Heil Bill

/me runs*
Ayy thanks <3

@Bubblun, updated

@Happyrocket88, I really liked the idea of the bright green so I've added that~ :)

Thanks!
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General


The first inherited point on every diff that starts with 1x is unnecessary, remove those xd

I found no other general issues :o


Easy

00:05:858 (1,2,3,4,1) - The hitsound rhythm you use here with the clap should be used a lot more throughout the song, 'cause as a whole, I think you copy pasted, and then it scrambled a lot of the hitsounds around (The hitsounds sound a bit randomly placed on the easy diff) xd Listen through the easy diff, and readjust the hitsounds so they have a consistent rhythm in that regard, so they aren't random. :) You should be able to get some sick rhythms out of it. (The other diffs are fine, because there are more notes)

00:17:438 (1,2,3,4) - This is an example where the hitsounding is a little weird imo xd

00:25:399 (4,1) - It looks a little closer than it is DS wise making it fairly reading based for a new player - I'd probably ctrl+G 00:24:675 (3,4) - , so the spacing is more obvious.

Apart from that it's fine :3

Normal

No important issues here, in a rankable state :)

Hard

00:00:068 (1,2,3,4,1) - move the two sliders to the right and left up juuust a bit https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6686142
00:12:733 (3,1,2,3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6686121 This picture doesn't look too good aesthetically if you look at the visual distance between the sliders. Try to make it like this picture instead ---> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6686123
00:25:037 (3,4,5) - It's not as bad here, but I feel that it could still be improved a bit
00:35:532 (3,4,1) - I think the pattern would flow a little better like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6686134 this, since you have to backtrack from the slider, if the first note is in the blanket xd You can probably come up with better ideas than me though :^)

bubbelubInsane


00:00:610 (2,1,2) - and 00:02:058 (4,1,2) - are different spacing wise xd I don't understand why lol - You should probably consider spacing the first one :3
00:28:656 (5) - The overlaps aren't really too great here xd
00:31:913 (1,2,3) - This should definitely be spaced a lot more when you compare it to other patterns :) The overlap on 2 ruins the actual spacing a liiittle too much here xd
00:39:151 - Unnecessary green line

Apart from that, I think we're good :3 <3

Uuuuuu Mysteryyyyy

00:13:095 (1,3) - I don't understand why the second one is sharp lol xd Looks a little funny (Oh yeah, also, TRIGGERED (look at the overlap lol)) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6686167 I'd probably just make the longer slider a curve too, but less steep :3
00:36:256 (1) - ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED

(Didn't find much :3)

Good luck! :)
Topic Starter
Aistre

Spork Lover wrote:

Mod coming up! Just a sec <3
Hello! :3

General


The first inherited point on every diff that starts with 1x is unnecessary, remove those xd

I found no other general issues :o


Easy

00:05:858 (1,2,3,4,1) - The hitsound rhythm you use here with the clap should be used a lot more throughout the song, 'cause as a whole, I think you copy pasted, and then it scrambled a lot of the hitsounds around (The hitsounds sound a bit randomly placed on the easy diff) xd Listen through the easy diff, and readjust the hitsounds so they have a consistent rhythm in that regard, so they aren't random. :) You should be able to get some sick rhythms out of it. (The other diffs are fine, because there are more notes)

00:17:438 (1,2,3,4) - This is an example where the hitsounding is a little weird imo xd

00:25:399 (4,1) - It looks a little closer than it is DS wise making it fairly reading based for a new player - I'd probably ctrl+G 00:24:675 (3,4) - , so the spacing is more obvious. I don't think that's the case because I've had a few beginner players test the map and they've handled that part fine without any slip-ups.

Apart from that it's fine :3

Normal

No important issues here, in a rankable state :)

Hard

00:00:068 (1,2,3,4,1) - move the two sliders to the right and left up juuust a bit https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6686142
00:12:733 (3,1,2,3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6686121 This picture doesn't look too good aesthetically if you look at the visual distance between the sliders. Try to make it like this picture instead ---> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6686123
00:25:037 (3,4,5) - It's not as bad here, but I feel that it could still be improved a bit
00:35:532 (3,4,1) - I think the pattern would flow a little better like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6686134 this, since you have to backtrack from the slider, if the first note is in the blanket xd You can probably come up with better ideas than me though :^)

bubbelubInsane


00:00:610 (2,1,2) - and 00:02:058 (4,1,2) - are different spacing wise xd I don't understand why lol - You should probably consider spacing the first one :3
00:28:656 (5) - The overlaps aren't really too great here xd
00:31:913 (1,2,3) - This should definitely be spaced a lot more when you compare it to other patterns :) The overlap on 2 ruins the actual spacing a liiittle too much here xd
00:39:151 - Unnecessary green line

Apart from that, I think we're good :3 <3

Uuuuuu Mysteryyyyy

00:13:095 (1,3) - I don't understand why the second one is sharp lol xd Looks a little funny (Oh yeah, also, TRIGGERED (look at the overlap lol)) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6686167 I'd probably just make the longer slider a curve too, but less steep :3
00:36:256 (1) - ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED :OO

(Didn't find much :3)

Good luck! :)
Thanks~<3
Everything unmentioned = fixed!
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bubbelubInsane


00:00:610 (2,1,2) - and 00:02:058 (4,1,2) - are different spacing wise xd I don't understand why lol - You should probably consider spacing the first one :3 I was probably just off when eye-balling it. Fixed.
00:28:656 (5) - The overlaps aren't really too great here xd Okay?
00:31:913 (1,2,3) - This should definitely be spaced a lot more when you compare it to other patterns :) The overlap on 2 ruins the actual spacing a liiittle too much here xd Fixed.
00:39:151 - Unnecessary green line Removed.
Good luck! :)
I like the overlaps because I was exaggerating the last part of the Kiai by not only preserving the rise in spacing, but by adding a slight challenge in readability. I did change up some bits to make that 'gimmick' more consistent.

Updated diff; http://puu.sh/syFbL/ed364f30ee.osu
Karen
Mystery
  1. 00:07:848 (2,3,4,5,6) - flow looks kinda weird, try something else: example1 example2
  2. 00:10:743 (3,5) - too closed, move 00:10:200 (1,3) - right a bit to make it look better
  3. 00:34:084 - missing whistle?
  4. 00:36:256 - add clap or something, feels empty here, also increase the volume a bit, 00:38:427 - this one too (all diff)
Bubblun's Insane
  1. ar8 is enough, plus it's cs5, small circle size requires lower ar
  2. 00:04:772 (2,3) - flow would be more interesting if you exchange their placements o_o
  3. 00:14:905 (2,3) - stack them better
  4. 00:17:257 (3,4) - ^
  5. 00:28:294 (4,1) - not straight
  6. reduce your detailed problems :<
Normal
  1. rework your new combo system, there're too many NCs in this diff, you may add new combo on every 2 big white lines not 1, like your Easy diff
call me back
Hollow Delta

Karen wrote:

Bubblun's Insane
  1. ar8 is enough, plus it's cs5, small circle size requires lower ar We talked about the AR over IRC.
  2. 00:04:772 (2,3) - flow would be more interesting if you exchange their placements o_o Considering how close these notes are. Having 'questionable' flow isn't a big deal. Because the player is expected to play much better for the rest of the map. Relative to the difficulty it's supposed to be, it's fine. Also it would ruin the swirl concept.
  3. 00:14:905 (2,3) - stack them better Fixed.
  4. 00:17:257 (3,4) - ^ Fixed.
  5. 00:28:294 (4,1) - not straight It's really hard to keep it straight while extending the length. lol. Fixed.
  6. reduce your detailed problems :< Yea I see what you mean now. I'll go over this diff tonight, so it should be ready by the time Alphabet gets on.
call me backYou got my number? ;)
Thanks for the mod, buddy.

Updated Diff: http://puu.sh/sKjR5/c847a508f8.osu
Topic Starter
Aistre

Karen wrote:

Mystery
  1. 00:07:848 (2,3,4,5,6) - flow looks kinda weird, try something else: example1 example2 I went with example 2 as example 1 has a significantly smaller DS which looks kinda odd compared to the rest of the map.
  2. 00:10:743 (3,5) - too closed, move 00:10:200 (1,3) - right a bit to make it look better Yeah, fixed.
  3. 00:34:084 - missing whistle? Oops, must have accidentally changed it, fixed :p
  4. 00:36:256 - add clap or something, feels empty here, also increase the volume a bit, 00:38:427 - this one too (all diff) Sure.
Normal
  1. rework your new combo system, there're too many NCs in this diff, you may add new combo on every 2 big white lines not 1, like your Easy diff I can agree, changed
call me back
Thanks alot :)
~Updated
Karen
@Bubblun
00:28:656 (5) - you made it staight but forgot a new combo here
Hollow Delta

Karen wrote:

@Bubblun
00:28:656 (5) - you made it staight but forgot a new combo here
Oops. I'll get to it as soon as I get out of bed. Thanks.

Edit: PC is taking a while to boot up. @Alphabet can you apply that for Me
please?
Hollow Delta
http://puu.sh/sLsX1/9099875d3b.osu We did some IRC and pointed out some minor issues.
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