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Akitoshi

Ascendance wrote:

someday
i go remap expert and i'll try to find modders/bns again
those cringy blankets on topdiff makes me want to shoot myself
Topic Starter
Akitoshi
hello
Mir
Expert
- 00:26:748 - Kinda disappointed the density stays the same, but the song ramps up into 1/2 rather than 1/1. Again at 00:36:853 -
- 00:44:906 (2,3,4,5) - 3 should have more emphasis since it has a finish on it, no?
- 01:14:432 (5,1) - Not a fan of this rhythm having the more emphasized red tick land on the slider end. at least circle + triple? https://i.imgur.com/jAiOxA5.png
- 02:57:853 (1) - Remove NC since in first kiai you didn't NC it.
- 04:07:327 (5,6,7,1) - Prefer this rhythm over 01:21:537 (4,5,1) - tbh I feel like the other two kiais are underwhelming compared to the last kiai even though the last kiai is probably intentionally more intense :?

Sidenote careful with patterns like 04:05:274 (1,2,3) - most of them are off. Ideally, something like https://i.imgur.com/0K1APdA.png looks nicest?

Insane
Some of the same issues carry over from Expert. So I won't mention them. Just check if they apply here too.

- 02:13:800 (4) - Could have more emphasis since the song puts lots of importance on this beat.

The lower diffs are so safe I can't find anything to say so yeah, good job there.

The topdiff rhythms and density things kills it for me though. Sorry, but good luck!
Topic Starter
Akitoshi

Mir wrote:

Expert
- 00:26:748 - Kinda disappointed the density stays the same, but the song ramps up into 1/2 rather than 1/1. Again at 00:36:853 -
- 00:44:906 (2,3,4,5) - 3 should have more emphasis since it has a finish on it, no?
- 01:14:432 (5,1) - Not a fan of this rhythm having the more emphasized red tick land on the slider end. at least circle + triple? https://i.imgur.com/jAiOxA5.png
- 02:57:853 (1) - Remove NC since in first kiai you didn't NC it.
- 04:07:327 (5,6,7,1) - Prefer this rhythm over 01:21:537 (4,5,1) - tbh I feel like the other two kiais are underwhelming compared to the last kiai even though the last kiai is probably intentionally more intense :? you're right, i make spikes at last chorus :3

Sidenote careful with patterns like 04:05:274 (1,2,3) - most of them are off. Ideally, something like https://i.imgur.com/0K1APdA.png looks nicest? i have bad eyes help tfw only used DS

Insane
Some of the same issues carry over from Expert. So I won't mention them. Just check if they apply here too.

- 02:13:800 (4) - Could have more emphasis since the song puts lots of importance on this beat.

The lower diffs are so safe I can't find anything to say so yeah, good job there.

The topdiff rhythms and density things kills it for me though. Sorry, but good luck!
Most of them were fixed, thank you!
Ascendance
!where bubble
Topic Starter
Akitoshi
!broke
Topic Starter
Akitoshi
round 3
bite you death
owo
-Hanamaru-
~Full support :)
Nao Tomori
[extra]
00:10:327 (1,2) - clickable plz =(

02:40:327 (5,1) - space 1 more i think, feels kinda weak

02:42:379 (3,4) - 1/1+circle works better here i think

03:52:642 (1,2) - same as firt

04:16:011 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - can u follow a less dense layer here, feels really weird since song is becoming more calm

04:29:274 (1,2,3,4) - aaaaaaa cmon dude its top diff u can map 1/3 clickableeeeee

[insane]
00:20:906 (5,6) - 1/1 slider on 5 fits a bit better i think, to emphasize cymbal more

00:35:511 (4,1) - this look kinda ugly, can u manual stack

00:58:011 (4,1) - ctrl g is cute to follow the bass guitar

01:00:537 (4,1) - same, etc

01:42:537 (1,5,1,2,3) - put nc on all of these? to follow the cymbals. atm looks weird cuz 5-1-2 all same sound and pattern but different combo

03:53:906 - ??

[hard]00:20:906 (2,3) - 1/1 on 2 instead, cymbal suggest a 3/2 rhythm and there is not much at 00:21:063 - to click on

00:25:485 (1) - remove nc
00:22:958 (1) - and here too. song is pretty calm so long combos fit better imo

00:31:011 (3) - 1/1 fits piano better i guess?

00:46:563 - fill?

01:58:642 (3,1) - i think 3 circle and 01:58:800 - 3/2 slider works better, piano is more obvious imo. also remove nc on01:58:958 (1) - , not really needed

02:31:958 (2) - end it at 02:32:274 - ..

also i think you should have some triples, i mean next diff has 5 and 9 stream so having no 1/4 in this diff is a bit off. especially in that part before last kiai where you put spinner and in insane diff there is a shit ton of 1/4. not good for spread

03:53:906 - .


[akitoshi's normal]
00:20:906 (5,6) - ctrl g fits better

02:26:432 (3,4) - wat is this rhythm. ctrl g and shorten the slider to end at 02:26:906 -
[easy]
00:21:695 - remove some filler circle from this part. even though they are in the song, since it is calmer it should have lower rhythm density

00:32:748 (2,2) - for example

01:42:241 - same around (before) here

ending spinner is kinda long for low diffs.. maybe better to just delet

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get ctb icon and call
Topic Starter
Akitoshi
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Naotoshi wrote:

[extra]
00:10:327 (1,2) - clickable plz =( sudden blue tick rhythm makes people mad and ruin free pp :angry:

02:40:327 (5,1) - space 1 more i think, feels kinda weak Ok

02:42:379 (3,4) - 1/1+circle works better here i think Ok

03:52:642 (1,2) - same as firt blue tick rhythm after the streams :angry:

04:16:011 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - can u follow a less dense layer here, feels really weird since song is becoming more calm Ok

04:29:274 (1,2,3,4) - aaaaaaa cmon dude its top diff u can map 1/3 clickableeeeee made clickable except 04:29:274 (1) - for at least the warning

[insane]
00:20:906 (5,6) - 1/1 slider on 5 fits a bit better i think, to emphasize cymbal more ok

00:35:511 (4,1) - this look kinda ugly, can u manual stack ok

00:58:011 (4,1) - ctrl g is cute to follow the bass guitar ok

01:00:537 (4,1) - same, etc ye

01:42:537 (1,5,1,2,3) - put nc on all of these? to follow the cymbals. atm looks weird cuz 5-1-2 all same sound and pattern but different combo fixd, did it on ex as well

03:53:906 - ?? d

[hard]00:20:906 (2,3) - 1/1 on 2 instead, cymbal suggest a 3/2 rhythm and there is not much at 00:21:063 - to click on ok

00:25:485 (1) - remove nc ok
00:22:958 (1) - and here too. song is pretty calm so long combos fit better imo ok doubled nc pattern on all calm parts for consistency or sth

00:31:011 (3) - 1/1 fits piano better i guess? ok

00:46:563 - fill? ok

01:58:642 (3,1) - i think 3 circle and 01:58:800 - 3/2 slider works better, piano is more obvious imo. also remove nc on01:58:958 (1) - , not really needed applied but keep 01:58:800 - as 1/1 slider since sound on 01:59:274 - is p strong

02:31:958 (2) - end it at 02:32:274 - .. made long slider instead for easier reads

also i think you should have some triples, i mean next diff has 5 and 9 stream so having no 1/4 in this diff is a bit off. especially in that part before last kiai where you put spinner and in insane diff there is a shit ton of 1/4. not good for spread filled on 02:27:537 - 03:49:800 - owo

03:53:906 - . .


[akitoshi's normal]
00:20:906 (5,6) - ctrl g fits better ok

02:26:432 (3,4) - wat is this rhythm. ctrl g and shorten the slider to end at 02:26:906 - remapped the rhythm lolz
[easy]
00:21:695 - remove some filler circle from this part. even though they are in the song, since it is calmer it should have lower rhythm density

00:32:748 (2,2) - for example ye

01:42:241 - same around (before) here oko

ending spinner is kinda long for low diffs.. maybe better to just delet monstrata's zense has almost same length of spinner on low diffs at end so i think its fine

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thanks owo
Electoz
[Ascendance's Rain]

  1. 00:17:748 - Was expecting a 1/1 gap here like 00:12:695 - 00:15:221 . 00:17:590 (4) - Seems too different for a variation compared to those previous two.
  2. 00:27:695 (6,1) - 00:37:958 (8,1) - Is this intentional for treating these with different spacings?
  3. 03:19:800 (1) - Remove NC? For consistency with other things 03:24:853 (3) - 03:29:590 (3) - etc you did later on.
[Expert]

  1. 00:34:011 (4,1) - Could’ve spaced bigger for emphasis, currently 00:31:800 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - is like a big chunk with monotonous spacing
  2. 01:01:800 - This is more prominent than 01:01:958 - so why did you skipped it (actually you didn't in Insane so zzz)
  3. 02:15:379 (1,2,3) - Spacings don't look visually distinguishable tho. 02:15:379 (1,2) - Could be nerfed more according to how you spaced stuff more on white ticks.
  4. 03:19:800 (1,2,3,4) - 03:33:695 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Pattern variation could've been more in-depth/consistent, like for these patterns you used squares most of the time but then some other shapes like those timestamps mentioned came off pretty randomly. Could've just varied things more consistently (by starting the shape you used at 03:33:695 - on 03:28:642 - onward) or used squares all the way zzz
[Insane]

  1. 00:29:274 (1) - No emphasis on this cymbal at all? zzz bigger spacing pls
  2. 00:45:853 (2) - Can use the slider shape idea thing you did in Expert too.
  3. 02:06:853 (2,1) - Could've looked more appealing aesthetically if these weren't placed this close.
  4. 02:46:327 (4,1) - Looks kinda stand out considering your usual aesthetics will have sliders interlocking/fitting each other like 02:33:695 (3,1) - 02:36:695 (1,4) - 02:44:906 (3,2) - etc but the one I mentioned doesn’t look like it lol
  5. 03:56:274 (1,4) - Was expecting some 1/1 slider stuff here like what you did in previous choruses. At first I thought you were trying to make the last kiai different from others but then you didn't do the same with 04:06:379 (1,3) - so I'm confused on what's the reason behind your rhythm choice of 03:56:274 (1,2,3,4,5) - .
  6. 04:16:485 (4) - Isn't NC supposed to be here instead of 04:16:958 (1) - ?
  7. 04:26:748 (1,2,3,4) - Should use the same slider shape on all these cuz now they look like 2 2-slider patterns rather than a 4-slider pattern.
[Hard]

  1. 00:13:800 (4,1) - 03:48:853 (1,2) - 04:04:958 (4,1) - DS? but like who cares so whatever
  2. 00:17:906 (1,2,3,4) - 4 sliders thing would only stick out here cuz you didn't do this in other measures. If this was meant to be a variation then I expect 04:26:748 (1,2,3,4) - to be the same too?
  3. 00:55:800 (1,2,3,4) - Could've moved things around a bit, now it doesn't look as pleasing cuz you're limiting your own space. Try changing 00:55:800 (1) - into a curve slider or other shapes so you can do something better (more aesthetically appealing) on 00:56:432 (3,4) - afterwards?
  4. 01:24:221 (3) - 2 circles like what you did in other places 01:14:116 (3,4) - 02:47:590 (3,4) - etc?
  5. 01:34:958 (1,2,3,4) - Rhythms from 01:37:485 (1,2,3,4) - 01:40:011 (1,2,3,4) - work better instead of this, like obviously rhythm is repeating every 2 measures and then idk why you did this differently from the other two.
  6. 01:43:485 (1) - Don't get what the comboing is for, you didn't NC on every sound like higher diffs nor having a single combo on the entire thing like lower diffs so I don't really get this.
  7. 01:58:327 (2,3,4) - 02:03:379 (2,3,4) - Same rhythm for consistency?
  8. 02:16:642 (1,2,3,4) - ??? Isn't this supposed to be the same rhythm from 02:15:379 (1,2,3) - ?
  9. 04:10:800 (2,3,4) - Something something like https://puu.sh/z1bXy/d5555ccf91.jpg would look better? Currently the overlap 04:10:011 (5,1,4) - makes aesthetics looked pretty cramped.
  10. 04:28:327 (2) - Why cymbal on tail you didn't do this in other diffs asjkfnkajsfnblaijk
[Normal]

  1. 00:39:379 (1,2) - DS
  2. 01:29:906 - 02:53:274 - 04:15:379 - In other diffs you usually drop rhythm density here so I was expecting that on these places too.
  3. 02:17:274 (4) - 2 circles on this would make 02:19:800 (4) - more stand out since there's a musical change on it.
  4. 03:37:169 (2,4) - Are you scared of hp bar or what lol just move 03:38:116 (4) - up so your blanket will be big as other ones you usually did 03:22:958 (4,1) - 03:28:011 (4,1) - etc.
  5. 04:32:748 (6) - Not that it matters but you NC'd stuff around here in other diffs so I guess I'll just mention this.
00:11:590 - 00:21:695 - These parts have like no difference in rhythm density at all despite having a different intensity so something needs to be done on either one of these.

[Easy]

  1. 04:24:221 (3,4) - Was expecting a rhythm like 04:21:695 (3,4) - because most of the time (or every idk didn't bother checking) in lower diffs you always started rhythm variation on the third repetition of the melody 04:25:485 - .
catch diff is fine
for my icon I want to see the reply first and then we'll see
Topic Starter
Akitoshi
blue is fixed/applied/tried or sth even it replied with random texts

reply

Electoz wrote:

[Expert]

  1. 00:34:011 (4,1) - Could’ve spaced bigger for emphasis, currently 00:31:800 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - is like a big chunk with monotonous spacing buffed a bit
  2. 01:01:800 - This is more prominent than 01:01:958 - so why did you skipped it (actually you didn't in Insane so zzz) expert is remapped and didn't compared with insane loler fixd btw
  3. 02:15:379 (1,2,3) - Spacings don't look visually distinguishable tho. 02:15:379 (1,2) - Could be nerfed more according to how you spaced stuff more on white ticks. ok
  4. 03:19:800 (1,2,3,4) - 03:33:695 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Pattern variation could've been more in-depth/consistent, like for these patterns you used squares most of the time but then some other shapes like those timestamps mentioned came off pretty randomly. Could've just varied things more consistently (by starting the shape you used at 03:33:695 - on 03:28:642 - onward) or used squares all the way zzz kinda intentional for slight intensity change from the background on that random 1/1 placing (at least the grids aren't off and 1/2 is consistently linear lul) also all squares looks rly repetitive since it's p long
[Insane]

  1. 00:29:274 (1) - No emphasis on this cymbal at all? zzz bigger spacing pls yh
  2. 00:45:853 (2) - Can use the slider shape idea thing you did in Expert too. yh
  3. 02:06:853 (2,1) - Could've looked more appealing aesthetically if these weren't placed this close. wtf
  4. 02:46:327 (4,1) - Looks kinda stand out considering your usual aesthetics will have sliders interlocking/fitting each other like 02:33:695 (3,1) - 02:36:695 (1,4) - 02:44:906 (3,2) - etc but the one I mentioned doesn’t look like it lol fixd
  5. 03:56:274 (1,4) - Was expecting some 1/1 slider stuff here like what you did in previous choruses. At first I thought you were trying to make the last kiai different from others but then you didn't do the same with 04:06:379 (1,3) - so I'm confused on what's the reason behind your rhythm choice of 03:56:274 (1,2,3,4,5) - . made 03:56:906 - 1/1, about on 03:56:274 (1,2,3) - the vocal rhythm is slightly different/clearer from previous choruses
  6. 04:16:485 (4) - Isn't NC supposed to be here instead of 04:16:958 (1) - ? a
  7. 04:26:748 (1,2,3,4) - Should use the same slider shape on all these cuz now they look like 2 2-slider patterns rather than a 4-slider pattern. ops
[Hard]

  1. 00:13:800 (4,1) - 03:48:853 (1,2) - 04:04:958 (4,1) - DS? but like who cares so whatever still visually consistent :angry:
  2. 00:17:906 (1,2,3,4) - 4 sliders thing would only stick out here cuz you didn't do this in other measures. If this was meant to be a variation then I expect 04:26:748 (1,2,3,4) - to be the same too? did 1/1 instead for consistency asdsfdgfd
  3. 00:55:800 (1,2,3,4) - Could've moved things around a bit, now it doesn't look as pleasing cuz you're limiting your own space. Try changing 00:55:800 (1) - into a curve slider or other shapes so you can do something better (more aesthetically appealing) on 00:56:432 (3,4) - afterwards? did something !11!
  4. 01:24:221 (3) - 2 circles like what you did in other places 01:14:116 (3,4) - 02:47:590 (3,4) - etc? aaaaa
  5. 01:34:958 (1,2,3,4) - Rhythms from 01:37:485 (1,2,3,4) - 01:40:011 (1,2,3,4) - work better instead of this, like obviously rhythm is repeating every 2 measures and then idk why you did this differently from the other two. oko
  6. 01:43:485 (1) - Don't get what the comboing is for, you didn't NC on every sound like higher diffs nor having a single combo on the entire thing like lower diffs so I don't really get this. Nani sore imi wakannai added NC at 01:44:432 - for more consistent, still didn't NC every 1 slider since might cause some reading problm for 6digits (higher diff has NC spam on every cymbals except the 1/2 slider)
  7. 01:58:327 (2,3,4) - 02:03:379 (2,3,4) - Same rhythm for consistency? piano is hitting on different tick d
  8. 02:16:642 (1,2,3,4) - ??? Isn't this supposed to be the same rhythm from 02:15:379 (1,2,3) - ? my old self was p sick :joy:
  9. 04:10:800 (2,3,4) - Something something like https://puu.sh/z1bXy/d5555ccf91.jpg would look better? Currently the overlap 04:10:011 (5,1,4) - makes aesthetics looked pretty cramped. ok
  10. 04:28:327 (2) - Why cymbal on tail you didn't do this in other diffs asjkfnkajsfnblaijk dgljkbnhvxcmjknskj
[Normal]

  1. 00:39:379 (1,2) - DS wtf
  2. 01:29:906 - 02:53:274 - 04:15:379 - In other diffs you usually drop rhythm density here so I was expecting that on these places too. droppd
  3. 02:17:274 (4) - 2 circles on this would make 02:19:800 (4) - more stand out since there's a musical change on it. ok
  4. 03:37:169 (2,4) - Are you scared of hp bar or what lol just move 03:38:116 (4) - up so your blanket will be big as other ones you usually did 03:22:958 (4,1) - 03:28:011 (4,1) - etc. w
  5. 04:32:748 (6) - Not that it matters but you NC'd stuff around here in other diffs so I guess I'll just mention this. added nc
00:11:590 - 00:21:695 - These parts have like no difference in rhythm density at all despite having a different intensity so something needs to be done on either one of these. nerfed/converted to 2/1 on some sliders on around 00:21:695 -

[Easy]

  1. 04:24:221 (3,4) - Was expecting a rhythm like 04:21:695 (3,4) - because most of the time (or every idk didn't bother checking) in lower diffs you always started rhythm variation on the third repetition of the melody 04:25:485 - . ok
catch diff is fine
for my icon I want to see the reply first and then we'll see don't ban sven

thanks uwu
Ascendance
first point : it's meant to be buildup into the next section
second point : yeah, more emphatic vocal, i dont mind reducing it but the hyper is intended
third point : akitoshi fix for me (just remove the NC)

also put this bg on my diff cause im anime and i like it better https://ascendance.s-ul.eu/xKhW0HrS
Topic Starter
Akitoshi
removed NC, changed background on Ascendance's d (also I manually converted to .jpg to saving up the file size since ur linked one has 2.4mb lolz) and re-scaled my bg as well

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Electoz
Topic Starter
Akitoshi
OwO thanks Electoz
Frim4503
still waiting for this map ranked
Nao Tomori
thanks electroz
Topic Starter
Akitoshi
thanks nao tomori uwu
Kurai
Hello,

The unicode artist shouldn't be コバソロ & Lefty Hand Cream but "KOBASOLO & Lefty Hand Cream" as コバソロ is just provided by the artist for reading.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsmKwdVOJFY

Topic Starter
Akitoshi
he used katakana on other single so thought it's not just provided



also his official website uses katakana "コバソロ" as well, isn't current one safer in any way? :?
Kurai
Alright, it's all good then!
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