2016-10-22 16:47 Sevey01: I think circles are too small for a 3*
2016-10-22 16:48 Steffen: ohh?
2016-10-22 16:48 Steffen: it's 3,5* though, but still
2016-10-22 16:48 also, CS5 isn't *too* small though
2016-10-22 16:48 Sevey01: also some jumps are irregular with the rhythm
2016-10-22 16:48 Sevey01: if the sounds are close, map the circles close too
2016-10-22 16:48 Steffen: Like?
2016-10-22 16:49 Steffen: I can agree btw
2016-10-22 16:49 Sevey01: 00:15:833 (4) - to 00:16:000 (5) - are too confusing and fast, even more in a 3,5* diff
2016-10-22 16:49 Sevey01: 00:18:666 (6) - 00:18:832 (7) -
2016-10-22 16:50 Sevey01: 00:20:666 (1) - 00:20:832 (2) - 00:20:999 (3) - 00:21:166 (4) - 00:21:332 (5) - 00:21:499 (6) - are maybe too fast
2016-10-22 16:50 Sevey01: (o boi, the first time I mod usefully)
2016-10-22 16:51 Steffen: I don't really agree on changing the last couple of jumps, but I can agree on the second ones
2016-10-22 16:51 Steffen: post in forum
2016-10-22 16:51 Steffen: maybe I can grant u sum kudosu xd
2016-10-22 16:51 Sevey01: mmm, lemme check some more xD
2016-10-22 16:53 Sevey01: 00:16:000 (5) - to 00:16:167 (1) - is insanely hard for a hard diff
2016-10-22 16:54 Sevey01: also, the small sliders for the start (that go with the background little sound) are confusing, as they make you switch from a rhythm to another
2016-10-22 16:54 Sevey01: Idk what can be done about them tho
2016-10-22 16:55 Steffen: go from one rythm to another?
2016-10-22 16:55 Steffen: well, there's two layers of sound, so I might as well fill in the empty spaces by using the background beat
2016-10-22 16:55 Sevey01: yep
2016-10-22 16:56 Sevey01: I know
2016-10-22 16:56 Steffen: So I won't change that though

19:46 Steffen: So
19:46 Miryle: So
19:46 Steffen: I have three diffs on my mapset now
19:46 Steffen: And I've self-modded Easy and Fallen ENGINE diff lots
19:47 Miryle: Yay~
19:47 Steffen: Wanna take a look on it?
19:47 Miryle: Sure why not
19:48 Miryle: Linku desu~
19:48 Steffen:
19:48 *Steffen is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1111525 SiIvaGunner - Start Menu]
19:48 Steffen: I kinda just need some mods and suggestions at this points
19:48 Steffen: as well as looking over the map
19:48 Miryle: well lemme irc
19:48 Miryle: and post
19:48 Steffen: over and over again
19:48 Miryle: cuz I want kds
19:48 Miryle: and im lazy
19:48 Miryle: deal:
19:48 Miryle: ?
19:48 Steffen: well
19:49 Steffen: ./clear first then xD
19:49 Miryle: no that's totally staying :^)
19:49 Steffen: xD
19:49 Steffen: but first off
19:49 Steffen: should I put the mapset up as pending now?
19:49 Miryle: No
19:49 Miryle: Keep it as WIP
19:49 Steffen: ahh ok
19:49 Miryle: even idk when to put in pending so
19:49 Steffen: I was just unsure, cause mods and such
19:49 Miryle: ask around in modhelp i guess
19:49 Steffen: xD
19:50 Miryle: anyways lazy kds farming time
19:50 Steffen: I'll try asking stefan
19:50 Steffen: YE
19:50 Miryle: kk
19:50 Miryle: Let's start w/ easy
19:50 Miryle: 00:08:180 (4) - NC here?
19:50 Miryle: Cuz you did it on every downbeat until now
19:51 Steffen: hmm, I agree on that one
19:51 Miryle: In fact I'd suggest just ctrl+g this whole thing 00:08:180 (4,5) -
19:51 Miryle: cuz it'd probably play better starting w/ slider than circle imo
19:52 Steffen: weird, it doesn't select the ones you linked I think
19:52 Miryle: basically the circle and slider xD
19:52 Miryle: swap them around
19:52 Steffen: yeye xD
19:53 Miryle: okay~ 00:12:513 (3,4) - straight line pls
19:53 Miryle: or i won't be able to sleep tonight
19:53 Miryle: If you want a curve, curve the slider instead of keeping it straight
19:53 Steffen: ehhh
19:53 Miryle: though considering you used a straight slider for 00:10:846 (1) - maybe make it a red anchor or something
19:53 Steffen: I'm dumb, explain a little
19:53 Steffen: xD
19:54 Miryle: ok wait
19:55 Miryle: https://puu.sh/s2001/a903e21cd5.png
19:56 Steffen: xD
19:56 Steffen: I get it
19:56 Miryle: :3
19:56 Miryle: okay and 00:16:180 (1) -
19:56 Miryle: reverses that are more than once are frowned upon in general
19:57 Miryle: since there isn't much time to react to the second reverse
19:57 Miryle: I suggest just making one reverse and circle at the end or two sliders
19:57 Steffen: hmmm
19:57 Miryle: especially in easy diffs ._.
19:57 Steffen: I noticed it could be confusing for low-skilled players so I see the point
19:58 Miryle: alright and 00:18:680 (2,3,4) -
19:58 Miryle: this is too hard for an easy
19:58 Miryle: try to avoid 1/4 rhythm on easy diffs, even 1/2 if you can
20:00 Miryle: also just thought i'd get this out of the way
20:00 Miryle: your drain time is 0:29
20:00 Miryle: you need at least 0:30 to be rankable
20:01 Miryle: add a spinner at the end or something just to get that extra drain
20:02 Steffen: I did think about doing that, but was unsure
20:02 Steffen: http://puu.sh/s20lv/ca4e945b37.jpg u like?
20:02 Miryle: nid timelin pl0x
20:02 Miryle: looks to be too hard still xD
20:04 Steffen: But, replacing circle at the end
20:04 Steffen: with a spinner
20:04 Steffen: I dunno
20:04 Miryle: you *need* 0:30
20:04 Miryle: how you do it is up to you
20:04 Steffen: Yes
20:04 Steffen: I meant
20:05 Steffen: placing a spinner RIGHT after the circle
20:05 Steffen: or entirely replacing the circle with the spinner
20:05 Miryle: come to think of it
20:05 Miryle: even if you did place a spinner
20:05 Miryle: it would be too short
20:05 Steffen: So, replacing the circle
20:06 Steffen: or maybe replacing a slider reverse?
20:06 Miryle: would still be too short
20:06 Miryle: the reverse
20:06 Miryle: you could probably get away with shortening it one
20:07 Miryle: but the thing is you'd be missing 00:29:513 -
20:07 Miryle: which is a really strong beat ._.
20:07 Miryle: can you possibly extend the mp3 a couple of seconds to make time for the spinner?
20:07 Miryle: assuming you still have the original it shouldn't be too hard
20:08 Steffen: mmmmm
20:08 Steffen: even if I didn't it would be pretty simple to do so
20:08 Miryle: Thing is you can't extend it with blank space
20:10 Miryle: either way that's the only unrankable thing i've found so far
20:10 Steffen: Gemme a sec then
20:10 Miryle: righto
20:14 Steffen: Ohh, there's the audio
20:14 Steffen: xD
20:15 Steffen: So, I put the spinner at 00:30:013 (1) - till 00:32:013
20:15 Miryle: 2 seconds huh
20:15 Steffen: Let me push an update out
20:16 Miryle: just reupload
20:16 Miryle: i'll delete and redl
20:16 Steffen: is that enough you think?
20:16 Miryle: probably
20:16 Miryle: if anyone complains just make it longer lololol
20:16 Miryle: not adding that ^ to logs
20:16 Miryle: :^)
20:17 Steffen: Also, I can put it up as pending
20:17 Steffen: which I did
20:17 Miryle: but
20:17 Miryle: only put in pending
20:17 Miryle: if you're ready for bns
20:17 Miryle: ;-;
20:17 Steffen: I did
20:18 Steffen: I asked
20:18 Miryle: okay if you say so
20:19 Miryle: 00:05:513 (1,2,3,1,2) -
20:19 Miryle: come to think of it
20:19 Miryle: you could play with this to make a really nice blanket-fest
20:20 Steffen: Still dunno what blanket mean
20:20 Steffen: xD
20:20 Steffen: end me
20:21 Miryle: sec
20:22 Miryle: https://puu.sh/s21tA/120fddf8ee.mp4
20:22 Miryle: the sliders sort of
20:22 Miryle: cover the circles
20:22 Miryle: if that makes sense
20:23 Steffen: Ahhhhh
20:23 Steffen: I get it!
20:23 Miryle: it tends to look nice and give a certain level of structure
20:23 Miryle: it's up to you whether you use them tho, you can get away with no blankets if you really wanted to
20:24 Miryle: okay and here 00:19:846 (3) -
20:24 Miryle: this slider is too short
20:25 Miryle: 00:18:680 (4) - and this circle is on a blue still ._.
20:29 Steffen: Ignore the fact that I logged off
20:29 Steffen: My pc crashed as usual -3-
20:29 Miryle: lol it's okay
20:29 Steffen: fcking hell, it better have autosaved
20:30 Miryle: osu doesn't autosave beatmaps ._.
20:30 Miryle: peppyplsaddthisfeature
20:30 Steffen: ;-;
20:31 Steffen: Lemme review what we went through
20:31 Miryle: Alright
20:31 Steffen: "10 years latur"
20:32 Steffen: I think it did autosave
20:32 Miryle: idk
20:32 Miryle: maybe you saved without realizing
20:33 Miryle: happens to me lol
20:33 Steffen: no, I know how
20:33 Steffen: cause audio
20:33 Steffen: xD
20:33 Miryle: audio?
20:33 Steffen: I had to switch out the mp3, silly
20:33 Miryle: oh
20:34 Steffen: thank god
20:34 Steffen: >.<
20:34 Miryle: so before you vanished off the face of the planet
20:34 Miryle: 00:18:680 (4,7) - these are too hard for an easy
20:34 Miryle: the 4 is on a blue tick and the 7 is too hort
20:34 Miryle: short*
20:35 Steffen: it is hard
20:36 Miryle: yes it is
20:36 Steffen: I made 4 into a slider
20:36 Steffen: doesn't that compensate for 7 (which now is 6(
20:37 Miryle: that's fine
20:37 Steffen: What do you think about 00:20:680 (1) -
20:37 Miryle: is fine imo
20:37 Steffen: It's a hold, with lots of space between
20:37 Miryle: you don't have to move, you can just stay put and hold
20:37 Steffen: so I give it a pass tbh
20:38 Miryle: yep i give it pass too
20:38 Miryle: 00:23:346 (3,4) - this is no pass tho
20:38 Miryle: 00:24:180 (5) - also ds?
20:38 Miryle: massive jump lol, stick to a consistent ds for easy
20:38 Steffen: I noticed
20:38 Miryle: in fact now that i notice
20:39 Miryle: AIMod is picking up inconsistencies as well
20:39 Steffen: Moved slider under the circle
20:39 Miryle: check Ctrl+Shift+A
20:39 Miryle: and check distance snap
20:39 Steffen: AIMod tells me nothing
20:39 Miryle: eh>
20:39 Steffen: ohh wait
20:39 Miryle: did you check distance snap
20:40 Steffen: I didn't tick the box
20:40 Steffen: XD
20:40 Miryle: lol yeah you gotta tick that
20:40 Miryle: fix all of those (if they're more than 0.4x apart)
20:40 Miryle: o.o4*
20:43 Steffen: There, done
20:43 Miryle: Noice
20:43 Steffen: but
20:43 Steffen: http://puu.sh/s22IV/0f00964024.jpg this part
20:43 Steffen: doesn't it seem rather confusing?
20:43 Miryle: just stack it
20:43 Miryle: also
20:43 Miryle: that 3 is on a blue
20:43 Miryle: :^)
20:44 Steffen: >.> ?
20:44 Steffen: I'm duuuumb!
20:44 Miryle: the 3 is hard to hit
20:44 Miryle: xD
20:44 Miryle: the tick
20:44 Miryle: on the timeline
20:44 Steffen: xD
20:44 Miryle: it's on a blue one
20:44 Steffen: Yes but
20:44 Steffen: there is a beat
20:45 Steffen: is it because it's so sudden?
20:45 Miryle: yeah
20:45 Miryle: it's hard for a new player to hit such notes
20:45 Steffen: Then how about making the hold longer?
20:45 Miryle: could do
20:45 Miryle: considering it's fairly short but
20:45 Miryle: it's still 1/4 hold
20:46 Steffen: There
20:47 Steffen: AND THIS TIME I HIT CTRL+S
20:47 Miryle: nice m8
20:47 Miryle: 00:26:846 (4) - nc
20:47 Steffen: And now
20:47 Miryle: 00:18:846 (5) - nc
20:48 Miryle: 00:24:180 (5) - nc
20:48 Steffen: mmm
20:48 Steffen: no objections
20:48 Miryle: aaand that should be it
20:48 Steffen:
20:48 Steffen: now normal
20:48 Miryle: can't do normal
20:48 Miryle: is GD
20:48 Miryle: skip to highest diff
20:48 Steffen: ohh
20:48 Steffen: okay
20:49 Miryle: generally mappers dislike the mapset creator changing their maps without their knowledge
20:49 Miryle: since it's their interpretation of the song
20:49 Miryle: or in this case
20:49 Miryle: how they wanna shitmap this
20:49 Miryle: :^)
20:49 Steffen: xD
20:49 Steffen: but
20:49 Steffen: what if I ask the mapper?
20:49 Steffen: or at least let them apply the mod
20:51 Miryle: well
20:51 Miryle: I can forum mod it probably
20:51 Miryle: but can irc your diffs
20:51 Steffen: Sure!
20:51 Miryle: okay now
20:51 Miryle: 00:02:513 (5,1) - nerf
20:51 Miryle: 00:05:180 (5,1) - same
20:52 Steffen: RIP JUMPS
20:52 Miryle: 00:19:846 (10,11) - awkward spacing ;-;
20:52 Miryle: same spacing as notes before but shorter time
20:52 Miryle: easy to misread
20:52 Miryle: 00:18:680 (6,7,10,11) - especially comparing these two
20:52 Steffen: ehh
20:53 Steffen: ohhhh I get it
20:53 Miryle: 00:13:513 (5) - nc here not the note after
20:53 Steffen: there
20:53 Miryle: 00:18:846 (7) - same here
20:53 Miryle: nc this
20:54 Miryle: 00:21:513 (6,1) - idk about these tho
20:54 Miryle: i feel it's fine tho
20:54 Miryle: 00:24:180 (5) - nc this too
20:54 Steffen: http://puu.sh/s23o1/2fa13e4eaa.jpg this is at 00:19:513 (9) -
20:54 Miryle: better
20:55 Miryle: 00:26:846 (4,5) - why so many control points lol
20:55 Miryle: you can make a perfectly curved slider w/ only one point
20:56 Steffen: Fixed
20:56 Miryle: 00:00:846 (2,3) - probably move these closer
20:56 Miryle: just slightly tho
20:56 Miryle: since timing is shorter but spacing is the same
20:57 Miryle: 00:17:513 (3) - there's no sound here
20:57 Miryle: remove note pl0x
20:58 Steffen: fixxxed
20:58 Miryle: 00:29:513 (6) - nc here too
20:58 Steffen: also at 00:00:846 (2) - http://puu.sh/s23B3/1e3caa547e.jpg
20:58 Miryle: better
20:59 Miryle: 00:26:846 (4) - did i say nc this?
20:59 Miryle: nope i didn't, nc this
20:59 Steffen: nope
20:59 Miryle: 00:24:180 (5) - remove nc here
20:59 Miryle: i mean
20:59 Miryle: do a nc here
20:59 Miryle: ._.
20:59 Steffen: xD
20:59 Steffen: I already did
20:59 Steffen: you told me
20:59 Miryle: o
20:59 Miryle: okay
21:00 Miryle: 00:25:846 (2,3,4,1) - personal preference but
21:00 Miryle: you could curve this nicer
21:00 Miryle: https://puu.sh/s23NE/238f19e010.png
21:00 Steffen: ******Hi random guy who likes reading IRC logs******
21:00 Steffen: I could
21:00 Miryle: also yeah you creep
21:00 Miryle: get out of this irc
21:00 Miryle: it's not like it really matters what we say
21:00 Miryle: i'm only here for kds
21:01 Miryle: :^)
21:01 Steffen: only here for kids
21:01 Steffen: LUUL
21:01 *Steffen runs
21:01 Miryle: wow
21:01 Miryle: 00:29:513 (1,3) -
21:01 Miryle: stack this somenhow
21:02 Steffen: http://puu.sh/s23WH/4743231791.jpg
21:03 Steffen: FeelsGoodMan
21:03 Miryle: seems fine
21:03 Miryle: 00:11:513 (2) - ctrl+g this but move 00:10:846 (1,2) - slightly closer to compensate for distance?
21:04 Miryle: is completely option tho
21:04 Miryle: what you have is fine
21:05 Steffen: http://puu.sh/s2437/6b0eef8b69.png SeemsGood
21:05 Steffen: it looks better like this
21:05 Miryle: ...
21:05 Miryle: so like
21:05 Miryle: https://puu.sh/s247h/799bc711dc.png
21:05 Miryle: this looks amazing
21:05 Steffen: XD
21:05 Miryle: 10/10 box
21:06 Steffen: your PC is gonna choke if you open more tabs
21:06 Miryle: dw my pc is a strong girl
21:06 Miryle: ok that's everything
21:06 Steffen: strong **GRILL
21:06 Miryle: grill* sorry
21:06 Miryle: okay imma forum mod the normal
21:06 Steffen: SeemsGood
21:06 Miryle: and post the log + mod
21:06 Steffen: only?
21:07 Miryle: well i can't irc it
21:07 Miryle: cuz it's a gd
21:07 Steffen: OHH wait
21:07 Steffen: I'm dumb
21:07 Miryle: and he's probably not on
21:07 Miryle: idk
21:07 Steffen: I thought you wrote Easy
21:07 Steffen: xDDDD
21:07 Miryle: i'd rather forum mod it tbh
21:07 Miryle: xD
21:07 Miryle: Alright

Note, there was a LOT of sarcasm in this mod.

0:02:513 (5) - rotate this to opposite the previous slider 00:01:846 (4) -

Check!

00:02:846 (1,2) - this should be about the same distance as 00:00:180 (1,2) -

I tried something, should look okay!

00:05:513 (1,2,3) - needs more even spacing plz, prob with a pattern like previous combos (triangle?)

Okay! SeemsGood

00:08:180 (1,2,3) - after (above) prob make this same pattern as (above)

I did that

00:15:180 (4,5,6) - this is going to cause problems for player if they can't read this off-beat section. no change as far as i can see, but be advised

I won't change anything here yet, but I'll take note about it

00:16:180 (1,2) - make this symmetric like 00:10:846 (1,2) - ; also i suggest curved sliders instead of edged ones

I tried something, and it looks pretty okay. The first symmetric sliders remain the way they are though

00:18:346 (4,5,1) - equal distance please

Fixed...?

00:20:013 (5,1) - needs more space

I tried something!

00:30:346 (3) - place this opposite 00:29:513 (1) - with 180 degree rotation

I get it.....I don't get it Fixed!

[Easy]
00:20:680 (1,3) - dangerous for easy diff, consider making these extended and ignore trill

Check! Fixed it!

00:26:846 (1) - same as above but 2 sliders here

Check! Fixed!

00:30:013 (1) - shorten to 2 measures or remove completely

Check! Fixed!

(This part will be applied soon)
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00:08:180 (1) - beautify bro, use smaller grid size if necessary

TBA

00:28:180 (1) - make this opposite previous slider

TBA

00:30:013 (1) - shorten to 2 measures or remove

TBA